From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #77 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, March 7 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 077 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- chatrooms [susan+rick ] RE: Joni in BC ["Doug Oram" ] Re: Joni in BC ["Kakki" ] Re: chatrooms ["cassy" ] Re: chatrooms [MDESTE1@aol.com] (no subject) [Jennymac48@aol.com] Joni's Most Underrated? [Steve Dulson ] "Official Business" [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: "Official Business" [Alison E ] most underrated ["Stephen Epstein" ] RE: "Official Business" ["Nikki Johnson" ] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "Official Business" [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Last Songs [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Refuge of the Roads ["Megan" ] Re: chatrooms [susan+rick ] Re: "Official Business" [mags ] Re: "Official Business" [Murphycopy@aol.com] official business ["Stephen Epstein" ] the gallery ["P. Henry Boland" ] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? [Dflahm@aol.com] Chat room [Don Rowe ] Re: "Official Business" [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Big Sur [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni's Most Underrated? ["Mike Hicks" ] RE: "Official Business" ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: "Official Business" [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Covers Volume 14 [Scott and Jody ] Re: Big Sur [Vince Lavieri ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #109 ["Sally A. Bowers" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 00:10:17 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: chatrooms Well, I've managed to log on to both chatrooms (with my Mac G4) but the only time anyone has been there was this morning when I said hello to RoseJoy. The only problem now is that when I tried to log on again (after a freeze-up) the damn software wouldn't let me log on with my chosen name (It said I was already logged on from another machine.) So I chose a new name and got on successfully only to find my other persona already there. I ended up with only myself to talk to (which isn't that much different from my life, really.) Ranger Rick, or rick_in_belcarra, or belcarra_rick, I'm not sure anymore. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:17:45 -0800 From: "Doug Oram" Subject: RE: Joni in BC Lori, Where is Jackfish Lake? I always though Joni's place was near Pender Harbor. From the album cover that was always my guess. I remember her telling a story 'bout staying at the Jolly Roger Inn when looking for a place. I use to see her sometimes when I was a kid (growing up in Roberts Creek - Sunshine Coast) and riding the ferries. I always had my guitar and was usually top deck playing away and hoping, and hoping she would come by and put on a melody -sigh. Doug * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * He who would learn to fly one day must first learn to stand and walk and run and climb and dance, one cannot fly into flying. - Friedrich Nietzche ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:17:06 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni in BC Wow Doug, you lucky boy! I recall the story posted here about the guy who was hitchiking up there and got picked up by Joni. Recall that they went by the Jolly Roger to pick up Graham Nash and that the guy made her a dulcimer. Joni took the guy and his friends to Pender Harbor. A few of us here have joked seriously a bit about having a Fest at the Jolly Roger one of these days. Is it still there? I wish you would have had the nerve to chat with her on those ferry rides! Kakki Doug wrote: > Lori, Where is Jackfish Lake? I always though Joni's place was near Pender > Harbor. From the album cover that was always my guess. I remember her > telling a story 'bout staying at the Jolly Roger Inn when looking for a > place. I use to see her sometimes when I was a kid (growing up in Roberts > Creek - Sunshine Coast) and riding the ferries. I always had my guitar and > was usually top deck playing away and hoping, and hoping she would come by > and put on a melody -sigh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:48:25 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: chatrooms Now that some of us are visiting the chat room there is something I'd like to say about the "ghost" syndrome and "being there but not being spoken to." I hope I'm not being patronizing with the following explanation... it is not my intention. When each of us logs onto our computer we do it through "servers" which allow us all access to the internet, each of those servers is like a spoke on a wheel and the chat room is the central hub. We all use different spokes to access the hub and each of us has a different rate of connection. There is something called "lag-time" which is the amount of time it takes for a message to leave one keyboard and be received by each of the other persons in the chat room this is called "lag." That delay can sometimes be one second or it can be minutes depending on server traffic and other mitigating factors. It can also vary from one chatter to the next. On other chat programs such as IRC (Internet Relay Chat) one can check the lag time (or ping as some call it) between yourself and another person, that isn't possible in a Java chat room so if it seems like someone is ignoring you or can't see you it's probaby that you are lagged to the moon and back. It is very possible for you to be so lagged that you can leave the room and come back and still see yourself there even though you're not, this is called "ghosting." I hope this helps some of you with the questions and problems you're experiencing in the chat room. Try again, each time you connect the lag time varies. Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:30:19 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: chatrooms Or as Austin Powers said "Lag me baaaabeee". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:52:53 EST From: Jennymac48@aol.com Subject: (no subject) Oh jeez! I can't get in the chat room either! I get the page up and type in my name (required) and the rest is "optional" and type a line and it says "user not fully registered! But there is no other page for me to go to register? Am I a complete doofus or what? Why is this so hard? Gawd! Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:04:11 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Joni's Most Underrated? Philip in Ireland (preparing for St. Pat's day by drinking green beer and putting on funny hats, like all authentic Irishmen, eh Philip?:) ) wrote: >Tom Scott and the Los Angeles session >musicians who helped her make the big change from FTR on to C&S and HOSL >seem somewhat underrated to me...Scott's credits on those >records seem modest given his band leader role that was evident at the MOA >shows. Unlike my buddy Kakki, I liked Tom Scott et al at the MOA shows. I liked Joni's sound being expanded beyond the solo stuff. However, I don't think the TS & TLAX Joni material has aged well. A lot of MOA seems to be the band saying "here, listen to ME!!" Compare it to the exquisitley (sp) understated work of the Blade/Isham/Klein/ Liesz ensemble of the '98 shows - they played incredibly well, but everything they did served the singer and the song - there was no showing off. My Canadian $0.02 - still jingling loonies in my pockets... :) - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:27:21 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: "Official Business" (To the tune of BSN, with many thanks to Mr. Bob Muller for supplying the first half of this!) Simple fun with several folks, We sing some songs, we tell some jokes. Lounging outside with the oaks, I've done some Fests this way. But now I'm pulling out my hair! People come from everywhere, Sleeping, eating, here and there And some that want to stay!! I've done these Fests for three years now It drives me nuts, but still somehow, It gives my life rhythm and rhyme, So let's get set for ONE MORE TIME! Shrimp and rain and cops abound, A shame we had to leave the town. Martinis flow from all around, I've seen this Fest this way. But now I need to organize, Pick up the house, and realize Wait! Maybe this really isn't wise... But Paz still makes me say.... I've done these Fests for three years now It drives me nuts, but still somehow, It gives my life rhythm and rhyme, So let's get set for ONE MORE TIME! Yes, my friends, it's true!! After much teasing, taunting, and tantalizing..... ANNOUNCING..... THE 4th (??Annual??) NEW ENGLAND LABOR DAY WEEKEND JONIFEST!!!!!! WHEN: Friday, August 31, 2001 (the "unofficial" starting date) Saturday, September 1, 2001 (the "official" starting date) Sunday, September 2, 2001 (the "unofficial" party at Atty May's on Plum Island) WHERE: Ashara's house - north of Boston TIME: "unofficially" starting Friday whenever people arrive "officially" Saturday at noon until everyone leaves at some point on Sunday FOR: JMDLers WHAT: LOTS of live music (mostly Joni), sleep-over, and Joni sing-a-long! Also, possibly another Joni trivia game, shmoosing with JMDL friends old and new, giveaways galore, and much, much more! YOUR HOSTS: Ashara- Hospitality and Housing Hostess Maggie- Cordial Culinary Queen Chuck E.- Maestro and Master of Music Heather- Divine Diva of Decorations Since so many people regretted not coming last Labor Day, I expect a full house, so get off your tush, and send your responses in NOW!!!!!! Guaranteed a GREAT TIME!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------- WHAT YOU NEED TO DO As last year, there will be an "admission fee". To reserve your spot at the party, you will need 4 things: *NOTE* THESE ARE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED!! 1. A nonrefundable check in ANY amount, payable to Jim Johanson, and sent to me at: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA These checks are to benefit the JoniMitchell.com website. Now, more than ever, Jim needs these funds to keep the website going. Please be as generous as you can. (Each year, the donations are alternated between Jonimitchell.com and jmdl.com.) 2. The completed questionnaire by e-mail. As this is in my home, and I do not know many of you personally, NO ONE will be admitted without the questionnaire completely filled out! Because of Labor Day being a very busy weekend, please send your check right away if you are planning to attend. There is a limited amount of space at the house, so it will be on a first-come, first-served basis. There are ample hotels/motels in the area as well for the overflow. 3. A hard copy picture of you (no bigger than 5x7). This picture will NOT be returned. (It will go into the Jonifest posterity book.) Please do not send pictures by e-mail. 4. The food form along with a check (payable to Ashara Stansfield) for all the meals you will be participating in. (For those of you outside the United States, you may also pay by credit card by going to: http://www.paypal.com Click on "send money" And you can send the money to AsharaJM@aol.com If you use my name as a reference also, an extra $5 will go to Jim. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE LABOR DAY MAILING LIST If you would like to be on the separate mailing list for the Labor Day Jonifest, send a blank e-mail message to: Jonifest2001-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GIVEAWAYS GALORE!!!!!!! The giveaways were SO much fun last year, we are repeating it!! Giveaways? WHAT GIVEAWAYS??? Wonderful goodies from all over the world!! How can you participate? 1. Donate to the giveaways! Please send any and all giveaway items you would like to donate (Joni memorabilia, songbooks, magazine articles, CD's, pictures and artwork of Joni, videos, posters, CD's from our talented JMDLers, David? Fred? Bryan? Claud? Kate? Victor? Paul? Linda? Others?) In short, anything wonderful that would be fun to include. (Please don't send your dirty socks!) 2. An added attraction for the New England Labor Day Jonifest which will include EVERYONE whether you can make it to Boston or not in September: EVERY person that sends a check for Jim will be automatically entered to win a prize. (You need not be present to win.) 3. EVERY Jonifest attendee will be eligible for a separate Jonifest-only giveaway! So.....everyone has a chance to win something! If you would like to get in on the fun, and you have any items to donate towards the giveaways, please send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA I would love to get as many items ahead of time as possible, so I can sort them and see what we have to offer, and also so I am not taking time at the Jonifest itself to organize the giveaways. (Also, so in the future, {Oh, NO! Ashara has an ulterior motive!} I can keep all of you updated to what might be in the giveaways and entice you to send your donations/attend the Jonifest!) ;-) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ----------------------------------------- For LOTS more info, go to: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm or write to me at: Jonifest@aol.com See you in September!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:40:43 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: "Official Business" YEEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!! nice song, bob and ashara! let the games begin. i'm so excited... i got dibs on the lawn w/ jody! alison e. in nyc Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:43:36 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: most underrated good day, all! Steve Dulson wrote: "Unlike my buddy Kakki, I liked Tom Scott et al at the MOA shows. I liked Joni's sound being expanded beyond the solo stuff. However, I don't think the TS & TLAX Joni material has aged well. A lot of MOA seems to be the band saying "here, listen to ME!!" Compare it to the exquisitley (sp) understated work of the Blade/Isham/Klein/ Liesz ensemble of the '98 shows - they played incredibly well, but everything they did served the singer and the song - there was no showing off." I was a big fan of Tom Scott and the LA Express before his hooking up w/ Ms. Mitchell. Had all their releases on vinyl. I was absolutely thrilled with the pairing, as I figured this would take Joni to a completely new level, and IMHO, where she belonged! Misles of Aisles is still one of my most played JMs. I do agree that some of the Tom Scott sound is a bit dated now. But is was a brilliant sound- he and Joni- @ the time. My current tastes, of course have changed as I have aged, and I find the Blade/Isham et al, the perfect backing for JM. Paz was kind enough to send me A Day in the Garden- love it, and have played it, really, every day since I received it! Just brilliant! Stephen in Vancouver Steve- hang on to those loonies for your next trip to Vanc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:02:31 -0500 From: "Nikki Johnson" Subject: RE: "Official Business" WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! And for Paz stuck down in Honduras.... OH MY GAWD! Yay Ashara! Thanks so much for all you do to put this together it is SOOO appreciated:-) Ok I have to stop jumping up and down now and mail some stuff...I am so excited!!!!!!!!! Anyone not sure if they should go...DO IT!!!!!!!!!! :-) Love Nikki np: Jack Neilson~ Back Home To Georgia "Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true...Vienna waits for you" ~ Billy Joel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > AsharaJM@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:27 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: "Official Business" > > > (To the tune of BSN, with many thanks to Mr. Bob Muller for supplying the > first half of this!) > > Simple fun with several folks, > We sing some songs, we tell some jokes. > Lounging outside with the oaks, > I've done some Fests this way. > > But now I'm pulling out my hair! > People come from everywhere, > Sleeping, eating, here and there > And some that want to stay!! > > I've done these Fests for three years now > It drives me nuts, but still somehow, > It gives my life rhythm and rhyme, > So let's get set for ONE MORE TIME! > > > Shrimp and rain and cops abound, > A shame we had to leave the town. > Martinis flow from all around, > I've seen this Fest this way. > > But now I need to organize, > Pick up the house, and realize > Wait! Maybe this really isn't wise... > But Paz still makes me say.... > > I've done these Fests for three years now > It drives me nuts, but still somehow, > It gives my life rhythm and rhyme, > So let's get set for ONE MORE TIME! > > > Yes, my friends, it's true!! After much teasing, taunting, and > tantalizing..... ANNOUNCING..... > > THE 4th (??Annual??) NEW ENGLAND LABOR DAY WEEKEND JONIFEST!!!!!! > > WHEN: Friday, August 31, 2001 (the "unofficial" starting date) > Saturday, September 1, 2001 (the "official" starting date) > Sunday, September 2, 2001 (the "unofficial" party at > Atty May's > on Plum Island) > > WHERE: Ashara's house - north of Boston > > TIME: "unofficially" starting Friday whenever people arrive > "officially" Saturday at noon until everyone leaves at > some point on > Sunday > > FOR: JMDLers > > WHAT: LOTS of live music (mostly Joni), sleep-over, and Joni sing-a-long! > Also, > possibly another Joni trivia game, shmoosing with JMDL friends old and > new, giveaways galore, and much, much more! > > YOUR HOSTS: Ashara- Hospitality and Housing Hostess > Maggie- Cordial Culinary Queen > Chuck E.- Maestro and Master of Music > Heather- Divine Diva of Decorations > > Since so many people regretted not coming last Labor Day, I expect a full > house, > so get off your tush, and send your responses in NOW!!!!!! Guaranteed > a GREAT TIME!!!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > > --------------------- > > WHAT YOU NEED TO DO > > As last year, there will be an "admission fee". To reserve your > spot at the > party, > you will need 4 things: > > *NOTE* THESE ARE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED!! > > 1. A nonrefundable check in ANY amount, payable to Jim Johanson, > and sent to > me at: > > Ashara Stansfield > P.O. Box 215 > Topsfield, MA 01983 > USA > > These checks are to benefit the JoniMitchell.com website. Now, more than > ever, > Jim needs these funds to keep the website going. Please be as > generous as you > can. (Each year, the donations are alternated between > Jonimitchell.com and > jmdl.com.) > > 2. The completed questionnaire by e-mail. As this is in my home, > and I do not > know many of you personally, NO ONE will be admitted without the > questionnaire > completely filled out! Because of Labor Day being a very busy > weekend, please > send your check right away if you are planning to attend. There > is a limited > amount > of space at the house, so it will be on a first-come, first-served basis. > There are > ample hotels/motels in the area as well for the overflow. > > 3. A hard copy picture of you (no bigger than 5x7). This picture > will NOT be > returned. > (It will go into the Jonifest posterity book.) Please do not send > pictures by > e-mail. > > 4. The food form along with a check (payable to Ashara > Stansfield) for all > the meals > you will be participating in. (For those of you outside the > United States, > you may > also pay by credit card by going to: http://www.paypal.com > Click on "send money" > And you can send the money to AsharaJM@aol.com > If you use my name as a reference also, an extra $5 will go to Jim. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > > THE LABOR DAY MAILING LIST > > If you would like to be on the separate mailing list for the Labor Day > Jonifest, > send a blank e-mail message to: Jonifest2001-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > > GIVEAWAYS GALORE!!!!!!! > > The giveaways were SO much fun last year, we are repeating it!! > Giveaways? > WHAT GIVEAWAYS??? Wonderful goodies from all over the world!! > > How can you participate? > > 1. Donate to the giveaways! Please send any and all giveaway > items you would > like to donate (Joni memorabilia, songbooks, magazine articles, CD's, > pictures > and artwork of Joni, videos, posters, CD's from our talented > JMDLers, David? > Fred? Bryan? Claud? Kate? Victor? Paul? Linda? Others?) In short, > anything > wonderful that would be fun to include. > (Please don't send your dirty socks!) > > 2. An added attraction for the New England Labor Day Jonifest which will > include EVERYONE whether you can make it to Boston or not in September: > EVERY person that sends a check for Jim will be automatically > entered to win > a prize. (You need not be present to win.) > > 3. EVERY Jonifest attendee will be eligible for a separate Jonifest-only > giveaway! > > So.....everyone has a chance to win something! If you would like > to get in on > the fun, > and you have any items to donate towards the giveaways, please > send them to: > > Ashara Stansfield > P.O. Box 215 > Topsfield, MA 01983 > USA > > I would love to get as many items ahead of time as possible, so I > can sort > them > and see what we have to offer, and also so I am not taking time at the > Jonifest > itself to organize the giveaways. (Also, so in the future, {Oh, > NO! Ashara > has an > ulterior motive!} I can keep all of you updated to what might be in the > giveaways > and entice you to send your donations/attend the Jonifest!) ;-) > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > > ----------------------------------------- > > For LOTS more info, go to: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm > or write to me at: Jonifest@aol.com > > See you in September!! > > Hugs, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:14:41 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? <> Not that I totally disagree, Steve, but what parts of MOA are you specifically referring to? Their support of Joni always sounded very 'band-like' to me. (You have 24 hours for homework if needed) The band that said "Listen to ME" was her '79 band, not that that was a bad thing because it was a group of virtuosos, but they all had their solo sections and everything. I don't remember much of that on MOA, maybe it was different at the shows you attended. <> I wouldn't want to confuse a well-placed, well-executed solo with showing off. One of the highlights of the show in Atlanta was Greg Liesz' rockin' solo on Black Crow. Blade & Klein are indeed the most complementary rhythm section...present but not overpowering. And where does her '83 road band fit into the picture? Bob NP: Ani, "Hour Follows Hour" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:25:49 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: "Official Business" In a message dated 3/7/01 11:41:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, AsharaJM@aol.com writes: << (To the tune of BSN, with many thanks to Mr. Bob Muller for supplying the first half of this!) >> YIPPEE!!!! Count me in Ashara!!!! Muller did forget one verse of the song : Arriving late on Friday night Bob's flight could have been quicker Instead he staggered in the house and dropped his bottle of King Cobra Malt Liquor :~) Jimmy, looking forward to getting lost with Bob Murphy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:28:25 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Last Songs << i remember there was a thread a while ago about the best first song on an album -- but i don't remember us going over best or favorite "last songs". does anyone have a special one? what are the reasons or qualities for thinking so? >> Seems like Joni is the "last song" specialist...when you look at her catalog she seems to really want to put an exclamation mark there. Two Grey Rooms is, of course, a masterpiece, but my favorite one has got to be "Refuge". Matter of fact, I remember the first time I heard it, I watched the needle get to the end of the song (as Jaco's bass hits those last coupla bombs) and then continue to run to the paper label at the center. I was just so numb I couldn't even move to pick up the tonearm. But then, there's "Judgement"...and "Silky Veils"...damn, another call just TOO close to make. Joni definitely rules... Bob NP: Ani, "this bouquet" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:47:38 -0500 From: "Megan" Subject: Refuge of the Roads Hey Bob, I have one copy of "Refuge of the Roads", but unfortunately have no way of copying it for you. I'll tell you what--I'll send you my one & only copy for you to dub, on the condition you put me in your will & leave all your Joni tapes & CD's to moi and your firstborn as well !! ;~D(lol) Seriously, you and Lama are the 2 people I would trust with my last copy of *anything*--you guys are the BEST and do so much for the rest of us , it's the least I can do for you. It's on it's way to you as we speak. Enjoy! Megan :~) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:00:32 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: Re: chatrooms Thanks for the explanation, Cassy. The one time it did work for me, it worked well, so I think the problem the other times was more that there was literally no one else in the room at the time. Even if I were lagged I should still see someone else listed as present, right? I will try again but perhaps at a more sociable hour. Rick, NPIMH "Lag Me to the Moon" by Frank Sinatra. On 3/7/01 5:48 AM, cassy wrote > Now that some of us are visiting the chat room there is something I'd > like to say about the "ghost" syndrome and "being there but not being > spoken to." > so if it seems like someone is > ignoring you or can't see you it's probaby that you are lagged to the > moon and back. It is very possible for you to be so lagged that you > can leave the room and come back and still see yourself there even > though you're not, this is called "ghosting." > > I hope this helps some of you with the questions and problems you're > experiencing in the chat room. Try again, each time you connect the > lag time varies. > > Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:05:31 -0600 From: mags Subject: Re: "Official Business" omg omg omg...yes yes yesssssssssss yes.... thank you oh Goddess Ashara ...you rule!!!!!! love Mags and Brian Nikki Johnson wrote: > WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! > YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! > And for Paz stuck down in Honduras.... OH MY GAWD! > Yay Ashara! Thanks so much for all you do to put this together it is SOOO > appreciated:-) > Ok I have to stop jumping up and down now and mail some stuff...I am so > excited!!!!!!!!! Anyone not sure if they should go...DO IT!!!!!!!!!! :-) > Love Nikki > > np: Jack Neilson~ Back Home To Georgia > > "Dream on but don't imagine they'll all come true...Vienna waits for you" ~ > Billy Joel > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > > AsharaJM@aol.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:27 AM > > To: joni@smoe.org > > Subject: "Official Business" > > > > > > (To the tune of BSN, with many thanks to Mr. Bob Muller for supplying the > > first half of this!) > > > > Simple fun with several folks, > > We sing some songs, we tell some jokes. > > Lounging outside with the oaks, > > I've done some Fests this way. > > > > But now I'm pulling out my hair! > > People come from everywhere, > > Sleeping, eating, here and there > > And some that want to stay!! > > > > I've done these Fests for three years now > > It drives me nuts, but still somehow, > > It gives my life rhythm and rhyme, > > So let's get set for ONE MORE TIME! > > > > > > Shrimp and rain and cops abound, > > A shame we had to leave the town. > > Martinis flow from all around, > > I've seen this Fest this way. > > > > But now I need to organize, > > Pick up the house, and realize > > Wait! Maybe this really isn't wise... > > But Paz still makes me say.... > > > > I've done these Fests for three years now > > It drives me nuts, but still somehow, > > It gives my life rhythm and rhyme, > > So let's get set for ONE MORE TIME! > > > > > > Yes, my friends, it's true!! After much teasing, taunting, and > > tantalizing..... ANNOUNCING..... > > > > THE 4th (??Annual??) NEW ENGLAND LABOR DAY WEEKEND JONIFEST!!!!!! > > > > WHEN: Friday, August 31, 2001 (the "unofficial" starting date) > > Saturday, September 1, 2001 (the "official" starting date) > > Sunday, September 2, 2001 (the "unofficial" party at > > Atty May's > > on Plum Island) > > > > WHERE: Ashara's house - north of Boston > > > > TIME: "unofficially" starting Friday whenever people arrive > > "officially" Saturday at noon until everyone leaves at > > some point on > > Sunday > > > > FOR: JMDLers > > > > WHAT: LOTS of live music (mostly Joni), sleep-over, and Joni sing-a-long! > > Also, > > possibly another Joni trivia game, shmoosing with JMDL friends old and > > new, giveaways galore, and much, much more! > > > > YOUR HOSTS: Ashara- Hospitality and Housing Hostess > > Maggie- Cordial Culinary Queen > > Chuck E.- Maestro and Master of Music > > Heather- Divine Diva of Decorations > > > > Since so many people regretted not coming last Labor Day, I expect a full > > house, > > so get off your tush, and send your responses in NOW!!!!!! Guaranteed > > a GREAT TIME!!!! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > > --------------------- > > > > WHAT YOU NEED TO DO > > > > As last year, there will be an "admission fee". To reserve your > > spot at the > > party, > > you will need 4 things: > > > > *NOTE* THESE ARE ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED!! > > > > 1. A nonrefundable check in ANY amount, payable to Jim Johanson, > > and sent to > > me at: > > > > Ashara Stansfield > > P.O. Box 215 > > Topsfield, MA 01983 > > USA > > > > These checks are to benefit the JoniMitchell.com website. Now, more than > > ever, > > Jim needs these funds to keep the website going. Please be as > > generous as you > > can. (Each year, the donations are alternated between > > Jonimitchell.com and > > jmdl.com.) > > > > 2. The completed questionnaire by e-mail. As this is in my home, > > and I do not > > know many of you personally, NO ONE will be admitted without the > > questionnaire > > completely filled out! Because of Labor Day being a very busy > > weekend, please > > send your check right away if you are planning to attend. There > > is a limited > > amount > > of space at the house, so it will be on a first-come, first-served basis. > > There are > > ample hotels/motels in the area as well for the overflow. > > > > 3. A hard copy picture of you (no bigger than 5x7). This picture > > will NOT be > > returned. > > (It will go into the Jonifest posterity book.) Please do not send > > pictures by > > e-mail. > > > > 4. The food form along with a check (payable to Ashara > > Stansfield) for all > > the meals > > you will be participating in. (For those of you outside the > > United States, > > you may > > also pay by credit card by going to: http://www.paypal.com > > Click on "send money" > > And you can send the money to AsharaJM@aol.com > > If you use my name as a reference also, an extra $5 will go to Jim. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > > THE LABOR DAY MAILING LIST > > > > If you would like to be on the separate mailing list for the Labor Day > > Jonifest, > > send a blank e-mail message to: Jonifest2001-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > > GIVEAWAYS GALORE!!!!!!! > > > > The giveaways were SO much fun last year, we are repeating it!! > > Giveaways? > > WHAT GIVEAWAYS??? Wonderful goodies from all over the world!! > > > > How can you participate? > > > > 1. Donate to the giveaways! Please send any and all giveaway > > items you would > > like to donate (Joni memorabilia, songbooks, magazine articles, CD's, > > pictures > > and artwork of Joni, videos, posters, CD's from our talented > > JMDLers, David? > > Fred? Bryan? Claud? Kate? Victor? Paul? Linda? Others?) In short, > > anything > > wonderful that would be fun to include. > > (Please don't send your dirty socks!) > > > > 2. An added attraction for the New England Labor Day Jonifest which will > > include EVERYONE whether you can make it to Boston or not in September: > > EVERY person that sends a check for Jim will be automatically > > entered to win > > a prize. (You need not be present to win.) > > > > 3. EVERY Jonifest attendee will be eligible for a separate Jonifest-only > > giveaway! > > > > So.....everyone has a chance to win something! If you would like > > to get in on > > the fun, > > and you have any items to donate towards the giveaways, please > > send them to: > > > > Ashara Stansfield > > P.O. Box 215 > > Topsfield, MA 01983 > > USA > > > > I would love to get as many items ahead of time as possible, so I > > can sort > > them > > and see what we have to offer, and also so I am not taking time at the > > Jonifest > > itself to organize the giveaways. (Also, so in the future, {Oh, > > NO! Ashara > > has an > > ulterior motive!} I can keep all of you updated to what might be in the > > giveaways > > and entice you to send your donations/attend the Jonifest!) ;-) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > For LOTS more info, go to: http://www.jmdl.com/jfne2001.cfm > > or write to me at: Jonifest@aol.com > > > > See you in September!! > > > > Hugs, > > Ashara - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:02:42 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Official Business" In a message dated 3/7/01 12:58:06 PM, FMYFL@aol.com writes: << Jimmy, looking forward to getting lost with Bob Murphy >> We don't need no stinkin' maps, Jimmy! Thanks, Ashara, for going through all this trouble once again. You must be crazy, but you've got one great big heart! XO, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:13:24 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: official business Bob Murphy wrote: "Thanks, Ashara, for going through all this trouble once again. You must be crazy, but you've got one great big heart! XO, --Bob" I can only add my sincere thanks! Can imagine what an organizational nightmare it is. You are an angel! I will be there. Best regards, Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 05:08:25 +1000 From: "P. Henry Boland" Subject: the gallery there have been a few changes at the photopoint gallery. I am now using JM.com's bio chronology as a framework for posting the pics I have and I just put up the first few albums if you'd like to take a look. pat http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1414784195 Who needs Cupid? Matchmaker.com is the place to meet somebody. FREE Two-week Trial Membership at http://www.matchmaker.com/home?rs=200015 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:27:24 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? You will not be surprised that I disagree, Kakki. At least in part. I think the Metheny hookup was a one-time thing, but I also feel that JM's writing and singing grew more through her relationship with Pastorius than with any other colleague I know about. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:51:39 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Chat room Works good for me ... and while the ads are a pain, you can minimize your browser window and resize it to cover them -- particularly those god-forsaken flashing things under the window. Highly recommended for all! See you around. Don Rowe ===== Visit me anytime at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:05:04 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Official Business" In a message dated 3/7/01 11:41:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, AsharaJM@aol.com writes: > Yes, my friends, it's true!! After much teasing, taunting, and > tantalizing..... ANNOUNCING..... > > THE 4th (??Annual??) NEW ENGLAND LABOR DAY WEEKEND JONIFEST!!!!!! > > YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm coming and I have dibs in the house please. Rosalita in NJ Jumping a little higher now rosemjoy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:43:44 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Big Sur Vince (et.al.), I bet you didn't know your future husband was a Media Librarian. I decided to try and track down a copy of Celebration at Big Sur. I had zero luck. At the time I didn't know it had never been released on video. So I posted to the videolib listserv that I belong to and got a message from Richard Cohen, a friend of one of the film makers of CABS. I called Baird Bryant in Idyll Wild, California and he was just wonderful to talk with. He told me there was never a video release of the film, but that he had a few 3/4 inch copies and he could dub one to VHS for $125.00, which is quite reasonable, IMO. He was one of the film makers on Gimme Shelter and just worked with Criterion for the DVD release (it is excellent. I own it.) He said they are talking about digitizing CABS, and may add footage to the original. I told him there would be great interest among the JM community. He talked extensively about her, and said it was the first time she performed Woodstock in public. I'm not sure if that is true, (Les, Simon?) but probably it is the first filmed. Anyway, he was very kind. And someone needs to interview this guy for posterity. Maybe we could purchase and tree for a small fee? Any thoughts? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:43:21 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? > From: Dflahm@aol.com > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:27:24 EST > Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? > To: KakkiB@worldnet.att.net > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Reply-to: Dflahm@aol.com > You will not be surprised that I disagree, Kakki. At least in part. I think > the Metheny hookup was a one-time thing, but I also feel that JM's writing > and singing grew more through her relationship with Pastorius than with any > other colleague I know about. > > > DAVID LAHM I'll have to jump in here and say that the tour with Metheny and Pastorius was my favorite. Metheny really seemed to "feel" the music and I think Joni just fed straight off it. The same may be said for Jaco. Joni and Jaco just seemed to be entangled in each other musically. It was a glorius time in music in my opinion. However, I really like Isham very much. I have a couple of his solos and he ain't bad himself. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:06:10 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: "Official Business" tearing my clothes off! running up and down the avenues! POSITIVELY SHRIEKING! ashes! thank you for announcing so early this year!!!!!!!! oh, something to look forward to! to all of you that are in two minds: how can you miss paradise??????????? wallyK, screaming and howling from my balcony and making all the dogs in the neighborhood very confused ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:11:35 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: "Official Business" Wally wrote: > ashes! thank you for announcing so early this year!!!!!!!! > I have "always" announced in March, Wallster! You "must" pay closer attention!! ;-) You guys are WILD!!! LOL!!! I go out for a few hours, and the house reservations are almost full!! I have room for only a few more, and a few tents. That's it! Start booking the hotel rooms! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:14:44 -0600 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Re: Covers Volume 14 Philip wrote: > The mail arrived from Greenville, now known as the covers capital of the > Joni world. It seems to me that Bob has been operating a strict quality > control policy on recent volumes and this one continues the trend. > A Big Thanks to all the contributors and to Bob, Thank You!!!!! The *genie* has come out of the lamp once again. I had been behind with the Covers, so I sent Bob a box of 10 blank CDs in an effort to get caught up. I also asked for the Spectrum CDs. I specifically told him to put them aside for a rainy day, since he's had so much going on. Three days later, I received this incredible "Box Set" of Covers, Vol. 7 through 14 and the 2 Spectrum shows. OMG! Not only do they sound great, but they look great too!!! I don't know how you do it Bob! Your generosity goes way above and beyond.......... Many,Many, Many Thanks! jody NP- Vol. 14 - Lydia Van Dam Group - "People's Parties" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:16:50 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Big Sur Jerry Notaro wrote: > Vince (et.al.), > > got a > message from Richard Cohen, a friend of one of the film makers of CABS. > I called Baird Bryant in Idyll Wild, California and he was just > wonderful to talk with. He told me there was never a video release of > the film, but that he had a few 3/4 inch copies and he could dub one to > VHS for $125.00, which is quite reasonable, IMO. He was one of the film > makers on Gimme Shelter and just worked with Criterion for the DVD > release (it is excellent. I own it.) He said they are talking about > digitizing CABS, and may add footage to the original. I told him there > would be great interest among the JM community. He talked extensively > about her, and said it was the first time she performed Woodstock in > public. I'm not sure if that is true, (Les, Simon?) but probably it is > the first filmed. Anyway, he was very kind. And someone needs to > interview this guy for posterity. Maybe we could purchase and tree for a > small fee? Any thoughts? I am very interested in the transfer to video and forgive my technological ignorance but is "digitizing" the same as transfer to DVD? Or is that just a musical cd thing? I think a lot of people would be interested in the original with added footage. You got Joni and CSNY, so who wouldn't want it? Now I would suppose that his transfer to video would be superior by far to what is possible to tape off the tv. I am not at all equipped technoloically to be any good with this but I would certainly put up $125 if we could use it to make it available within the JMDL or whatever parameters would be imposed. That could be my gift to the JMDL community for the many kindnesses that I have received through the years. I wouldn't doubt that it was a very early if not first performance of "Woodstock." I kind of recollect that Big Sur was done on the rebound from Monterey Pop and especially Woodstock (the actual event) so it had to be soon after Woodstock (the actual event). At least the movie CABS kind of followed in the wake of the movie of Woodstock for those like me who couldn't get enough of the festival feeling in the movie theater, and played in the same art house theaters that had Monterey Pop (at least in Chicago). My recollection is that the song "O Happy Day" was still relatively fresh then too, at least hadn't been done to death yet, which raises the question: what was the actual date of CABS (the event, not the movie)? I encourage someone with skills to follow Jerry's idea and interview that guy. And a big thank you, Jerry! (the Rev) Vince, very appreciative ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:46:01 -0500 From: "Sally A. Bowers" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #109 I have been a member of this listserve for sometime now, but never post, because I was accsessing my AOL from another computer, and it would not let me post. That's all fixed now. I am the BIG LINDA RONSTADT FAN, if any of you remember me. I have been going nuts with Joni lately though. This week I bought Miles Of Esles and Hjira and another copy of Turbulant Indigo, my second. I had a limited release of that one, in the paper jewl box, but someone lifted that out of my apt. during a party. I guess I had another Joni freak in my apt. and didn't even know it...some friend! I am really disecting "Turn Me On, I'm A Radio", is that the correct title? Sorry if it's not. I have just came out of a long term relationship, and that song really applies at this time. Can't wait to get over it, who said LOVE was fun? They lied...again!!! Mike In Boston JMDL Digest wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, March 7 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 109 > > > > The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be > found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, > a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. > > The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains > interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > chatroom#2 [RoseMJoy@aol.com] > Re: chatroom#2 [GaelGreen@aol.com] > Re: chatroom#2 [Vince Lavieri ] > James Tayor Book (NJC) ["emmy burns" ] > Re: chatroom#2 ["Kakki" ] > Re: colin's called (AGAIN) NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] > Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #108 [BMBSPIRIT@cs.com] > Re: someone instant message the chat room address please (md) ["Jim L'Hom] > Re: Joni's Most Underrated? ["Kakki" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:39:46 EST > From: RoseMJoy@aol.com > Subject: chatroom#2 > > Door #2 has a chatroom for you mac folks. Hear that Rob? > rosemjoy@aol.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:57:46 EST > From: GaelGreen@aol.com > Subject: Re: chatroom#2 > > How do I get to the chatroom? > > I'm on a PC. > > Anyone who can help, please do! > > Thanks, > Gael > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:36:15 -0500 > From: Vince Lavieri > Subject: Re: chatroom#2 > > Didn't work for me. > > (the Rev) Vince > > RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > > > Door #2 has a chatroom for you mac folks. Hear that Rob? > > rosemjoy@aol.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:25:36 -0800 > From: "emmy burns" > Subject: James Tayor Book (NJC) > > I'm a quick deleter and forgot who was inquring about the 1971 book > called James Tayor, but I checked on bookfinder.com and found several > copies available for sale, the best deal being $9.94. I hope that helps > in your search. Emmy > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:12:43 -0800 > From: "Kakki" > Subject: Re: chatroom#2 > > Hi Gael, > > Go to JMDL.com and click on "chat" and sign on - there's a bunch of us on > now! > > Kakki > > > > How do I get to the chatroom? > > > > I'm on a PC. > > > > Anyone who can help, please do! > > > > Thanks, > > Gael > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:18:07 EST > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Subject: Re: colin's called (AGAIN) NJC > > Oh what two wonderful JMDL surprise today! > > I went into the JMDL chat room for the first time and had fun talking with > Bob (the smurf) Murphy, Nikki, and Stephen. WARNING! It can be addictive:~) > > The most pleasant surprise tonight was when Colin called me. (I think he's > making a trip around the world via phone .....folks in California, you're > next). Anyway, Colin you are as warm, funny and sincere as your posts and > emails always are. It was such a pleasure to talk to you on the phone and I > can't thank you enough for calling. > I urge any of you cyber JMDL friends to pick up the phone and call one > another once in awhile. It is truly special! Better yet, try to attend one > of the upcoming fests. When do we start making reservations hmmmmm ? :) > > In a great mood, > Jimmy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:20:39 EST > From: BMBSPIRIT@cs.com > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #108 > > An inquiry for the masses. I am sure most, if not all involved in this digest > are familiar with the movie " Message To Love: The Isle Of Wight Festival " > because of the traumatic episode involving Joni. If so , is there anyone who > was there or more specifically, is there anyone who was part of the group > called " Desolation Row". I ask because I was part of that group but didn't > know it until I saw the movie. I was 19, cared about the music, had no > interest in the "Free Concert Revolution ", waited for hours on the side of > the mountain to hear JM, and was unbelievably pissed off when the mike was > taken from her. I actually don't remember the name of the guy who took the > mike, but he was telling the truth about the free tickets. I got one of the > first ones, never used it because the hillside was less crowded and you could > hear pretty well, then put it in a book for safe keeping years ago and now > can't find it. No big deal. However, aside from the trouble maker, who by the > way, ended the revolution as soon as he hooked up with a woman, I met some > wonderful people and would like to correspond with any of them. I would > especially like to find someone nicknamed " Chickey " She is shown during an > interview just standing and smiling by herself with a bandana across her > head. It covered what I guess was a large birth mark on her forehead but I > don't think that it bothered her. In any case, she was the mother hen to all > in the group, organized food and fire at night,and just had a wonderful way > about her. I met a few from the group back in the states because they were > students at Princeton University and they invited me to party with them. I > have lost contact and would now like to renew it. Ifanyone can help, please > e-mail me at bmbspirit@cs.com. Thanks for listening to my ramblings. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:17:15 -0500 > From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > Subject: Re: someone instant message the chat room address please (md) > > Here's a link to the new JMDL chat room. Some Mac folks are having trouble > but others are groovin'. > > http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm > > Lama > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:23:38 -0800 > From: "Kakki" > Subject: Re: Joni's Most Underrated? > > Philip wrote: > > > Sorry for coming in so late on this. Tom Scott and the Los Angeles > session > > musicians who helped her make the big change from FTR on to C&S and HOSL > > seem somewhat underrated to me. Especially, compared with the praise > > heaped on Jaco's contributions. > > I agree. I'm ashamed to say that I did not appreciate them at all back when > Joni did Miles of Aisles. I thought "who are these guys - she doesn't need > a band!" How parochial, but I was young and uninformed. I had flipped over > FTR and C&S not even paying attention to the contributions of that band. Joe > Sample, Larry Carlton, Max Bennett....in retrospect, I say "hello????" I'm > sorry I missed seeing Tom a couple years ago here in Hollywood. Robben Ford > played here at the Catalina Bar & Grill last Thursday night and I was intent > on going but couldn't make it. I will try to make up for lost opportunities > and lack of appreciation in the future! Pound for pound, they outweighed > Jaco and Pat, IMHO. > > Kakki (in asbestos) > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2001 #109 > ***************************** > > ------- > Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- > Siquomb, isn't she? ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #77 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?