From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #56 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, February 18 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 056 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #79 - Enya (sjc) ["Kakki" ] Joni's Grammy [ElLayCoyoteRick@aol.com] Bored and snoring tiger tiger ["william" ] Joni/Christian Science Monitor [catherine.turley@verizon.net] Re: joni's 80's and 90's albums ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: I'll even kiss [Gary Zack ] Re: I'll even kiss [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: I'll even kiss ["cassy" ] Re: Jonatha ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #79 - Enya (sjc) [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: The Tea-Leaf Prophecy [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: I'll even kiss ["Kakki" ] One question ["william" ] Re: I'll even kiss [Michael Paz ] Foni Mitchell live [Fonimitchell@aol.com] Re: I'll even kiss ["Kakki" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #53 [DrAJR3@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:07:32 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #79 - Enya (sjc) Brian wrote: > Well, I'll jump in the Enya debate and give her a thumb's up. Though I > haven't kept up with her last couple of efforts, I can endorse 'Watermark' in > particular. I expect she gets strong support from her producers and > co-writers but I think her work holds up pretty well and compares very > favorably to the more forgettable 'new age' artists she is often grouped > with. I am a little puzzled by the Enya bashing. I only have "Watermark" but agree with what Chris T. wrote about her music being somewhat cutting edge when it first came out in the late 80s - it definitely sounded unique at the time. Maybe it sounds like all the rest of the New Age music to some now, but then I would have never thought to consider it that at all. To me is sounded more like some ancient Celtic hymms that had been electronica'ed into present day. There is a lot of beauty there. Being a Celt myself, I was quite taken by it on some ancestral memory level. But if Enya was *all* I heard all day, I might start getting a bit irritated ;-D Maybe the Irish listers Philip and Garret can give us their take (if they dare at this point!) > Joni has been given (by someone who apparently knows?) a 10 to 1 chance of > winning the best female pop Grammy. But I wouldn't be terribly surprised to > see her win. Very happy she's going to be a presenter. I think she is a dark horse but I also think we have a good chance of being happily surprised Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 04:16:17 EST From: ElLayCoyoteRick@aol.com Subject: Joni's Grammy This is hard for me to post, but, it's 1:00 AM and I just got back home from a date within which I broke someone's heart. Joni was there. I have been seeing this guy, a very cool guy that some would call a major catch. He's been with me since I started navigating some very choppy waters some six months ago. Tonight, I told him it appeared we should not see one another again in the way we have. I am planning to return to a special place left behind. Before us. He was so upset. We sat together, in the cold, in front of his Los Feliz apartment for an hour talking, doing a post mortem on our days together. His hazel eyes fixed on my every word. Suddenly, I realized BSN was in the CD player of the car. As we sat there in the awkwardness of the night, sad yet resolved, I punched on COY. The words came through so clear. The music so real. I found myself with tears filling my eyes (a very rare event) and he was spellbound. It was the perfect end to an enriched time. That song takes on a whole new meaning to me, having heard it all these years, it never had a place in my heart until now. I am ready to move on to a place I belong. And I think he's ready to let go. My dear JMDL friends and lurkers -- your presence has made this an easier night for me -- someway, somehow. If she doesn't win a Grammy on Wednesday - she certainly won one tonight. No real regrets, except a few, but still standing, Coyote Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:00:13 +0700 From: "william" Subject: Bored and snoring tiger tiger Of a Saturday afternoon I'm sat seated here listening to Abbey Road, for the third time. Thinking it's the best Beatles jobbie ever. Oh Darling, if I ever had to choose three albums to take me ........ Abbey Road, Hejira and Blood on the Tracks, dear Bob. I've left him (Bob Dylan) so unattended since I joined the JMDL. In my Octopus's garden in the shade. Even Ringo could sing. There doesn't seem to be an apparent Beatles influence in Joni's work. Ho hum, who gives a toss? A weekend of listening to music coz I ain't got nuttin else to do. Zzzzzzz+ACE- Looking forward to N'awlins in April. Hello Michael P. Just put on TTT. What an intro+ACE- .. in the farm boys eyes ... step right in ............. What a great song+ACE- To be followed by ........ Why is her cat deemed Man from Mars? Sitting in a park in Paris France. But in France they say ..... reading the news and it sure looks like GWB is RWR revisited. Tiger tiger nice kitty kitty. Boring email - sorry guys, I'm bored and got nuttin else to do .My whole life's gotten boring. Can't wait to be Statesbound. Indonesia? Well, sometimes I get that strong longing .........Boring+ACE- Rewind to Harlem in Havabanana. The crazy cries ...... don't you just love the way she says / sings howling. Tis great+ACE- Raincoats are hanging - eye to eye - ice cream. My My. What a great song. Stay in touch y'all. Willy the Shake Thinking that it's a lovely idea but I do think Happiness is the ...... is one of Joni's cheeziest offerings. A tad .......... hold on I'm about to put on FTR. Fat bellies and hungry little ones .... seagulls ......... Silly the Wake ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 05:38:23 -0800 From: catherine.turley@verizon.net Subject: Joni/Christian Science Monitor Check out today's online Arts & Leisure section: http://www.csmonitor.com/sections/artsleisure/artsleisure.shtml The section front page features a photo of The Joan from last year's BSN tour. Click through to "New Categories, bizarre Matchups" and she gets a mention. The article beneath that one, "Songwriting duo breaks the rules" is an ok fluff piece about Aimee Mann and Michael Penn. How weird is it when two of my favorites (JM & AM) show up in the same edition of the CSM? (Oh yeah, and there's that whole competing for the same grammy thing . . , against those little girls . . what a world, what a world). Catherine T. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 09:30:06 -0500 From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: joni's 80's and 90's albums YEa, my first Joni Album was Turbulent Indigo, and I had NO exposure to her music at all. I found the album remarkable, i loved every song on it. I also adored the sound of her vocals and the musical landscape that sounded very fresh to all the Alternative music that was playing on the radio..back in 1996. But, my SECond album was DED which I admired just as much. It Definitely was a more synthetic 80's sound, and being a child of the 80's i was more welcome to that sound. The albums that took me longest to get into were Songs from a Seagull, Clouds, FTR, and WTRF.. blair >From: evian >Reply-To: evian >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: joni's 80's and 90's albums >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:51:55 -0600 > >Howdy folks, > This Enya thread got me somehow thinking about the wide range of >music we listen to, and how it's so neat that even though we have such >different likes (Robberto and opera, Nikki, Hell, Kerry and I with the >Stevie obsession, Ashara and the rest with that band that I can never >remember the name -- LOL, I dunno, Steelhead Catfish or something >[hehehehe], the Jonatha crowd, Bob and his newfound love for Courtney >Love [damnit, I'll make him love her if it's the last thing I do!], Don >Rowe/Larry Klein and his wide array of choices, me and Jason Maloney's >80's synth/goth/industrial/new romantic/80's top 40 obsession, etc., >Jimmy and his penchant for Blue Oyster Cult and Laura Branigan >[hehehehe], etc.), we all have Joni in common. I know we have had >threads before on what our first Joni was, and how we stumbled upon her, >but thinking tonight about DED, which as you know is one of my faves, I >was wondering if anyone jumped on the Joni train with albums that we >always argue over -- namely, WTRF, DED, CMIARS, and let's throw TTT in >there as well. For me, my first Joni album was Blue, in 88, but I was >sort of familiar with her because "Good Friends" got a bit of airplay >here, and of course the videos from CMIARS were always on MuchMusic. I >went back and bought DED shortly after Blue, and even though I think it >kicks ass, I don't know if I would have given it a chance had I not >become a convert with Blue. So, anyone here get into Joni with those >albums? I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that they had. >Just curious, >Evian >np: "Southside" Moby and Gwen Stefani, who I seem to have an obsession >with as of late -- must be her 80's sound! >P.S. Don/Larry -- don't let anyone make you feel funny about Garth -- >I've got Tim McGraw in the car. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:45:30 +0700 From: "william" Subject: I'll even kiss What is a sunset pig? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:23:02 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: I'll even kiss That's a Los Angeles cop! Gary william wrote: > > What is a sunset pig? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:36:40 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: I'll even kiss In a message dated 2/17/01 2:55:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, willy100@indosat.net.id writes: > What is a sunset pig? > A policeman on Sunset Blvd. in LA. I think. (which is where I plan on visiting in April) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:31:09 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: I'll even kiss > What is a sunset pig? Back in the day a "Pig" was a police officer. Sunset is a Boulevard (a dual carriageway for those brits among us) which is, I believe, in the Los angeles area. to kiss a Sunset pig would mean to kiss a police officer who's beat is Sunset Boulevard. Cassy NP Seal "Dreaming in Metaphors" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:06:20 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Jonatha Every CD of > her's I've ever purchased now graces the shelves of my > local used record shop. Sorry folks -- I'm just > missin' the religion here. A lister sent me a cd of some Jonatha maybe a year ago as a trade. Actually I requested Jonatha since there was so much talk about her on the list. I've listened to it a couple of times and she doesn't grab me. I think the majority of the cd is Plumb with some Ten Cent Wings at the end. Don't get it folks. Mark in Seattle still feeling pretty crappy today ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:54:18 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #79 - Enya (sjc) > Maybe the Irish > listers Philip and Garret can give us their take (if they dare at this > point!) > Hi Kakki I wasn't here for the Enya debate. I guess the idea of a mysterious colleen floating through a sort of mystical twilight has lots of market appeal. So I give her due respect for doing something original and making a ton of money from it. But it's not my particular cup of tea. A few years ago she had a record out and some friends and I were talking about how we couldn't help ourselves from humming it. Then someone realised that the melody was identical to a TV commercial for gas home heating which featured 3 dancing bears, So much for all that celtic mysticism. :) Philip np Jerry Butler - Only The Strong Survive ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:55:05 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: The Tea-Leaf Prophecy Bob, Would it help if I told you that it has one of those "clouds, love, life" triplet things you're so fond of : She does the winter shovelling ... He does the winter shovelling.. They do the winter shovelling... Probably not. I love the tune. In fact Chalkmark is the Joni lp I listen to most often. cheers, Philip np Schneider tm - Light 2001 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 11:49:26 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: I'll even kiss Cassy wrote: > Back in the day a "Pig" was a police officer. Sunset is >a Boulevard (a dual carriageway for those brits among >us) which is, I believe, in the Los angeles area. to kiss a >Sunset pig would mean to kiss a police officer who's >beat is Sunset Boulevard. That's correct. Most all the music clubs were on Sunset back in the day. There was a small riot there back in around '67 when the cops tried to disperse the crowds of mostly teenagers. The riot is immortalized in Neil Young's "For What It's Worth." "Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep, starts when you're always afraid, step out of line, the Man comes and takes you away... you gotta stop hey, what's that sound everybody look what going on...." Joni was so homesick to get back she would even kiss one of those hippie-hatin cops on Sunset ;-) Kakki NP: Joni - Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 04:04:23 +0700 From: "william" Subject: One question What's that song by who's her name? Yeh yeh God is great yeh yeh. Oh Joan Osbourne, that's it. Was just thinking of that song via Prince's infinitely better version and thought to myselef, if I had just one question to ask Joni, what would it be. I'd ask her about the collaboration with Billy Idol. Bechaysus, I'm so good at public relations. :-) If you had just one question. Shake the Willy What if Prince was one of us ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:02:39 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: I'll even kiss on 2/17/01 11:49 AM, Kakki at KakkiB@worldnet.att.net wrote: > The riot is immortalized in Neil > Young's "For What It's Worth." I thought FWIW was a Stills creation and Neil did Ohio, but then I am often wrong. Paz NP-Mother and Child Reunion-Paul Simon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:31:53 EST From: Fonimitchell@aol.com Subject: Foni Mitchell live Just to re-cap ... Sunday 4th March - The Robin 2, Bilston Wednesday 14th March - Folk Plus, Walsall Friday 4th May - The Old Railway, Birmingham Saturday 1st September - Baggeridge Folk Festival, Staffordshire ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:28:57 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: I'll even kiss > > The riot is immortalized in Neil > > Young's "For What It's Worth." > I thought FWIW was a Stills creation and Neil did >Ohio, but then I am often > wrong. You are correct Mr. Paz! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:04:21 EST From: DrAJR3@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #53 can someone tell me how to sign off this list. 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