From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #38 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, February 2 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 038 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Thinking too much about the Grammy Awards ["hell" ] joni lyrics ["Greer, Ron" ] Re: favorite image ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Listening to Joni before dying [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Listening to Joni before dying [Merk54@aol.com] so happy to be part of this community [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni moment #4,602 [Catherine McKay ] Joni moment #4,602 [Steve Dulson ] image for today ["J.David Sapp" ] Re: Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT ["Stephen Epstein" ] Re: image for today [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni moment #4,602 ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Mingus Documentary ["cassy" ] Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Mingus Documentary [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: most admired image ["Lonely Painter" ] Flying Joni [Merk54@aol.com] too many fave lyrics now ["Lonely Painter" ] Joni's paintings on the net? [Richard Goldman ] Songs of Parenting [JRMCo1@aol.com] Songs of Parenting [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Joni's paintings on the net? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Attn All E-Bay'ers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Jaco Who Loves You? ["Michael Paz" ] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [Jerry Notaro ] Joni Paintings on the Net [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers ["cassy" ] Re: Joni's paintings on the net? [Richard Goldman ] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [WirlyPearl@aol.com] Re: a few favorites [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni moment #4,602 [Michael Paz ] Re: Lanois Studio Gone For Good [Michael Paz ] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [Scott and Jody ] Re: Superbowl (wasJaco Who Loves You?) [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: meet the beatles!!!!! sjc (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] RE: meet the beatles!!!!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Covert complicity;notches ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Joni's paintings on the net? ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Jaco who Loves you ["Jack Neilson" ] Lake of Pontoon Planes [Lindsay Moon ] Re: Mingus Documentary [Randy Remote ] Re: Jaco who Loves you [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:34:15 +1300 From: "hell" Subject: Re: Thinking too much about the Grammy Awards Kerry wrote: > Does anyone else feel conflicted about award shows, namely the Grammys? > I've always had major problems with them, but yet I still watch and cheer if > someone I like "wins." My problems with them are: 1) They usually ignore a > VAST number of talented (yet lesser known) artists, 2) The categories are > too broad and they end up throwing very different artists together (for > example, Joni and Christina A. - light years away from each other > musically). 3) They supposedly honor musical quality, but most of the > nominees are groups who have sold millions of albums in the past year. > > With all of these problems, I will still watch and hope Joni wins. Is this > weird or what? Can anyone help me with this debilitating problem? I may > need therapy.....:>) I feel exactly the same way (see, we do have something in common ;o) ) about the Grammy's. I always watch, and I'm always disappointed that the "good" stuff gets overlooked. Obviously it's only my opinion, but record sales don't necessarily mean that the music is worth what it's sold for. I'd take one Joni album over a thousand Britany Spears! I feel a little the same about the Academy Awards. You always pretty much know who's getting the Oscar before it starts, and I get frustrated sometimes that there can only ever be one winner in each category. For example (and don't flame me for this one) I thought Tom Cruise's performance in Rain Man was as equally deserving of an Oscar as Dustin Hoffman's. It was the one movie that convinced me that he could actually act. Of course you have to ignore Cocktail and Risky Business at the same time! Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://www.nbls.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:03:48 +0200 From: "Greer, Ron" Subject: joni lyrics hi >IVPAUL42 wrote (well actually - quoted) >"Love is touching souls; >surely you've touched mine >cause part of you >pours out of me >in these lines >from time to time." **WOW*** i was just sitting here at work, reading through the digest. came across this one & it just hit me so damn hard the the tears started pouring down my cheeks - at the precise moment someone walked in!! somewhat embarassing................... this has got be one of the most beautiful images of love ive ever read. there is just so much, so perfectly said in those 2 lines - "cause part of you/pours out of me" leaves me shaking my head in admiration, and my eyes tearing up still every time i read it.... ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:27:44 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: favorite image > From: TerryM2222@aol.com > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:11:08 EST > Subject: Re: favorite image > To: joni@smoe.org > Reply-to: TerryM2222@aol.com > A helicopter lands on the Pan Am roof > Like a dragonfly on a tomb > > Big boat chuggin' back with a belly full of cars > > On your mark red ribbon runner > The caressing rev of motors > Finely tuned like fancy women > In thirties evening gowns > > Terry Terry, You have good taste. Lyrics don't get any better than this. Can't you just see all this as she sings it? It's one of the things that sets her apart from others. I'm drawing a blank on the last one. Where did that one come from? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:26:35 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Listening to Joni before dying <> I think I'd just prefer to have a commercial radio station on, then I could be *glad* that I was dying! ;~) Bob, (who would probably want to also hear "A Chair In The Sky" & "Hejira"...) NP: David Byrne, "my love is you" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:25:45 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Listening to Joni before dying In a message dated 2/1/01 7:37:50 AM Central Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: > I think I'd just prefer to have a commercial radio station on, then I could > be *glad* that I was dying! ;~) > Now that's funny!!! > Bob, (who would probably want to also hear "A Chair In The Sky" & > "Hejira"...) > > Two great choices - between the forceps and the stone.... Jack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:29:34 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: so happy to be part of this community For some reason, we feel more than ever like a family to me this morning. Brian, what a terrific start to your recovery. I know Mags gets a lot of credit for this. We're all pulling for both of you! WallyK - oh so sad to hear your news. I'll be thinking of you. Sending everyone... lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:17:20 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT I'm going to be at a meeting but I may be able to tune into some of it on the computer there. Where do I go to get on??? I must have missed this earlier somehow! Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Kate's live web cast Monday, Feb 5 starts at 6 PM Pacific. Since Pacific > Time is GMT-8 hours, by my math, Kate's web cast starts at London Time > (Greenwich Mean Time) on Tuesday morning at 2 AM (GMT). - -- Phyliss, still skimming too much for her own good mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:12:02 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Lanois Studio Gone For Good - --- Michael Paz wrote: > Hello All- > I was reading the paper today and they had a > lengthy article about > Daniel Lanois's studio closing up for good here. The > building is on the > market now for $1.5 mil if anyone is interested. I wish I had that kind of $$$. This sounds like an amazing evening - must admit the part I most enjoyed, in a sick kind of way is this: > I sat in one of > the big rooms during the evening and played Chinese > Cafe on the Grand Piano. > Some girl came up to me and asked me if I had > written the tune and I told no > that Joni Mitchell had written it. "Oh!", she said, > "who's that?" I don't > think she really wanted to know, it was probably > more of a "are you famous?" > type of thing. How do these people get invited to these things, anyway? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:13:46 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT - --- Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Kate's live web cast Monday, Feb 5 starts at 6 PM > Pacific. Since Pacific > Time is GMT-8 hours, by my math, Kate's web cast > starts at London Time > (Greenwich Mean Time) on Tuesday morning at 2 AM > (GMT). > Eastern Standard Time is 3 (or is it only 2?) hours ahead of PST, which would make it start (here) at either 8p.m. or 9 p.m., n'est-ce pas? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:18:13 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: a few favorites - --- JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > Mark favors: > > < Bashing in veins for peace > Cold blue steel & sweet fire > Fall into Lady Release>> > > This image is so utterly brilliant it give me > goose-flesh and makes me murmur "be still my beating > heart." The disarming alliteration. The > metaphorical duality. The symbolic juxtaposition. > The human frailty and mortality she lays bear. This is one that really gets me too. All those hard /k/ sounds; and the way Joni's voice goes with it - all this hard stuff, then "faaaaaaaaallll [seductively] into Lady Release." I find myself going "Me too" and "Oh, yeah", a lot in reading everyone's favourites but can't think of a durn one myself that someone else hasn't already brought up. The woman is a genius and even though I felt it, I don't think I ever really *realized* it until joining this list. Thanks, jmdlers - how nice to say "Joni Mitchell" and be with people who are more likely to say "Yessss!!" than "Who?" or "Isn't that the folk singer who sang that paid paradise song?" Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:19:34 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni moment #4,602 - --- Les Irvin wrote: > As we were being seated, I noticed a lot > of artwork hanging on > the walls. I began looking around at the paintings > and turned to see the > one right behind my chair on the wall. > > It was an original Joni Mitchell painting! > > Even more bizarre was that fact that it was one of > only about two pieces of > her artwork that I have displayed on the JMDL site - > seen here > http://www.jmdl.com/credits.cfm > Would it have fit under your coat, do you think? Could you have slipped it outa there without anyone noticing? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:28:04 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Joni moment #4,602 Our estimed listmeister wrote: > I began looking around at the paintings and turned to see the >one right behind my chair on the wall Did anyone else wonder about that painting that Herbie Hancock was sitting in front of last night on Jazz? - -- ######################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:47:29 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: image for today He stood looking thru the lace At the face on the conquered moon peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:58:01 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Re: Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT Eastern time is 3 hrs ahead of Pacific, so it begins @9:00 pm Eastern. Regards, Stephen in Vancouver Catherine McKay on 02/01/2001 08:13:46 AM Please respond to Catherine McKay To: "Jim L'Hommedieu" , _JMDL cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: Re: Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT - --- Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Kate's live web cast Monday, Feb 5 starts at 6 PM > Pacific. Since Pacific > Time is GMT-8 hours, by my math, Kate's web cast > starts at London Time > (Greenwich Mean Time) on Tuesday morning at 2 AM > (GMT). > Eastern Standard Time is 3 (or is it only 2?) hours ahead of PST, which would make it start (here) at either 8p.m. or 9 p.m., n'est-ce pas? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:37:36 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni moment #4,602 In a message dated 2/1/01 11:30:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, anima_rising@yahoo.ca writes: << Would it have fit under your coat, do you think? Could you have slipped it outa there without anyone noticing? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca >> LOL, what's the address of this place Les? - -Rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:57:00 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: joni lyrics We were driving in the car today, listening to BSN, and I was looking over the lyrics to Both Sides Now, and when I read the line "Rows and flows of angel hair," this unbidden image of pasta jumped into my head. And then my next thought was, "Rows and flows of vermicelli, Ice cream castles in my belly..." okay, I had just eaten lunch, so maybe that had something to do with it. Hmmmm.....ice cream...:~} Victor Johnson http://www.cdbaby.com/victorjohnson "Just beyond the morning falls the river of your dreams, Escaping from the day these wild creatures run away." Victor Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:09:30 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: image for today <> Besides the MANY moon references, Joni also has a couple of "conquered moon" references...this one, and the previously mentioned "We walked on the moon, you be polite" lyric from DITS. I'm thinking it was significant to Joni that the astronauts, at least in those days, were all men. She wrote Amelia and paid homage to a female pioneer of avation. She also said "In my dreams we fly"...maybe she had a secret desire to be an aviator herself. I can't recall any interviews where the subject was discussed... Bob NP: Mary Chapin-Carpenter, "Shut Up & Kiss Me" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:20:01 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni moment #4,602 I think we should *STEAL* it guys!! What da ya think? Who's in? HMMMMMMMMM, Lama Les said, - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 00:21:20 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Joni moment #4,602 Joniphiles - I'm out in LA on business for a couple of days (hi Kakki!) and had an interesting Joni moment. A group of people who work with me were taken out to dinner this evening by the locals - to a place in Venice called "Hal's". As we were being seated, I noticed a lot of artwork hanging on the walls. I began looking around at the paintings and turned to see the one right behind my chair on the wall. It was an original Joni Mitchell painting! Even more bizarre was that fact that it was one of only about two pieces of her artwork that I have displayed on the JMDL site - seen here http://www.jmdl.com/credits.cfm Go figure.... Les - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:50:16 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Mingus Documentary >>> Bob, (who would probably want to also hear "A Chair In The Sky" & "Hejira"...) <<< Hi Bob, Interestingly enough, a while back the Bravo "Mingus" documentary aired. It was on very early in the wee hours and I set my VCR to tape it. The next day I eagerly rewound the tape and watched the entire show, not only to learn more about Charles Mingus, but also hoping for at least a passing reference to his collaboration with Joni. About 12 or so minutes before the end of the show, Charles' wife was saying that when his health had failed to the point that he was unable to compose in his usual manner he resorted to using a tape recorder and singing the music that was in his head. They aired a short portion of one of these tapes and there was Charles, voice reed thin, obviously not in the prime of health singing the music to "Chair in The Sky." The title at the bottom of the screen showed "'Chair in The Sky,' originally recorded by Joni Mitchell." It was the only reference to her during the whole show. I just thought you might find this interesting. Cassy NP George Michael "Father Figure" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:43:28 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT Thanks for spreading the word Lama-- I posted this to a few jmdlers whose email address I had in my database. I now have more specific time information, as there are a few others on the show. The show starts with the founder of Indiegrrls, Holly Figeroa being interview via phone (she has created an incredible organization as a result of her frustrations with the music biz, etc.), there will be someone performing following that, then I go on around 7:20 pm. PST. For about 20 minutes or so, I think. This is gonna be really fun cuz anyone listening can type in stuff via the chatroom while listening & we can see it! And respond! Is this the future of entertainment? Oh, there is a rerun the next day, you can check the website for time... oh, you might need the web address, too! It is on NWEZ,NET Femme Fatale Go to http://femmefatale.nu/femmefatale.htm Lama wrote, "Kate's live web cast Monday, Feb 5 starts at 6 PM Pacific. Since Pacific Time is GMT-8 hours, by my math, Kate's web cast starts at London Time (Greenwich Mean Time) on Tuesday morning at 2 AM (GMT). I hope everyone can figure out when this is relative to GMT. Go Kate!" ******************************************** Kate Bennett sponsored by Polysonics www.polysonics.com hear the music at: www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:27:07 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Mingus Documentary <> I did, very much Cassy! Joni found this project very fulfilling even though she was told (and she knew) that it would be a suicidal career move. She also recounts in an interview about DED that one of the record execs listened to Lucky Girl and commented that he liked it because it sounded 'jazzy'! This was of course after Sting made the airwaves safe for jazz-influenced pop! :~) On a related note, when I think of Joni's Chair In The Sky, I think of Kenny Grant. During the '99 Asharafest, there were only a handful of us playing Joni pictionary in the living room. Kate drew a picture of a chair at the top of the page. While I sat there like an idiot, Kenny knew it immediately! A great Kenny moment! Bob NPIMH: "There are things I wish I'd done Some friends I'm gonna miss" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:36:44 -0700 From: "Lonely Painter" Subject: Re: most admired image From "Sweet Bird" 'Golden in time, cities under the sand. Power, ideals and beauty, fading in everyone's hands./No one knows they can never get that close, guesses at most, guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching.' - -loney painter _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:44:24 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Flying Joni >Bob wrote: >maybe she had a secret desire to be an aviator herself. ...like me, she had a dream to fly... ...I'm like that black crow flying, in a blue sky... Jack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:57:33 -0700 From: "Lonely Painter" Subject: too many fave lyrics now Gee whiz, looking at the lyrics people have selected as their favourites has my head spinning. I originally wrote down some lines from 'Sweet Bird', but I realise now they're really just the tip of the iceberg. Joni's lyrics in any given song are usually nothing short of brilliant. (And people wonder WHY a gen-xer like myeslf refuses to listen to the radio!) Joni lyrics I simply cound NOT do without: "Formula music, girlie guile, genuine junkfood for juvenilles, up and down the dial, mercenary style." (If only 'genuine' was spelled with a 'j' - what perfect alliteration that would be!) "Woke up it was a Chelsea Morning and the first thing that I heard was a song outside my window and the traffic wrote the words/oh, won't you stay, we'll put on the day and we'll wear it till the night comes/And the sun poured in like butterscotch, stuck to all my senses, oh won't you stay we'll put on the say, and we'll talk in pleasant tenses" "I'm travelling in some vehicle, I'm sitting in some cafe, a defector from the petty wars until love sucks me back that way/White flags of winter chimneys waving truce against the moon" "You and me, we're like America and Russia, we're always keeping score, we're always balancing the power and that can get to be a cold, cold war. We're gonna have to hold ourselves a peace talk in some neutral cafe." "In a highway service station over the month of June, was a photograph of the Earth taken coming back from the moon. And you couldn't see a city on that marbled bowling ball, or a forest or a highway or me, here, least of all. You couldn't see these cold water restrooms, or this baggage overload, westbound and rolling taking refuge in the roads." Ok...I could go on and on and on...I could go through each and every album and lay my finger on the lyrics that speak to me most...but I don't want this to be a long message. Peace, loney painter _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:11:15 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Joni's paintings on the net? I know I asked this before here a few weeks ago, but didn't get any response. I lost a lot of my data in a crash (it happens. Back it up!). And...I remember there was a site (not the 'official' site) but . . . someone's site, that had a lot of her paintings from the Mendell and maybe a few others, on it, that I wanted to use as 'desktop'. (I *was* using one that was an 'orange-ish/reddish brown' landscape, with a lake: very autumnal). Does anyone have the URL for that site? Please please please email it to me? Thanks! Richard in San Francisco - playing with a full deck now (turned 52 last week - so it's all jokers and wild cards from here on in!) richard2sf@earthlink.net N.P. - the carillon in the church across the street ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:11:33 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Songs of Parenting I'm a lonely bachelor with time on my hands and no child to raise. But I was intrigued when I ran across a CD on Half.com (an eBay company) called _Hand in Hand: Songs of Parenting_ released in 1995. I thought the breeders among us might be interested in knowing about this interesting collection of performers and songs. Song List 1. Circle Game - Joni Mitchell 2. On Children - Sweet Honey In The Rock 3. Things We've Handed Down, The - Marc Cohen 4. Baby - Bobby McFerrin 5. Wake Up - Yoko Ono 6. Beautiful Boy - John Lennon/Yoko Ono 7. Only Child - Jackson Browne 8. Born To The Breed - Judy Collins 9. Child's Song - Tom Rush 10. Sunshine - Ferron 11. My Father's House - Kenny Loggins 12. Forever Young - The Pretenders If you want to get it, or anything else, at Half.com, use the code word "stereo" for $5 off. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:15:20 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Songs of Parenting I'm a lonely bachelor with time on my hands and no child to raise. But I was intrigued when I ran across a CD on Half.com (an eBay company) called _Hand in Hand: Songs of Parenting_ released in 1995. I thought the breeders among us might be interested in knowing about this interesting collection of performers and songs. Song List 1. Circle Game - Joni Mitchell 2. On Children - Sweet Honey In The Rock 3. Things We've Handed Down, The - Marc Cohen 4. Baby - Bobby McFerrin 5. Wake Up - Yoko Ono 6. Beautiful Boy - John Lennon/Yoko Ono 7. Only Child - Jackson Browne 8. Born To The Breed - Judy Collins 9. Child's Song - Tom Rush 10. Sunshine - Ferron 11. My Father's House - Kenny Loggins 12. Forever Young - The Pretenders If you want to get it, or anything else, at Half.com, use the code word "stereo" for $5 off. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:40:14 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's paintings on the net? <> It may not help you, Richard, but there ARE quite a few paintings that you can use for wallpaper, etc. at: http://www.jmdl.com/shinytoys/art/ Bob NP: Peter Case, "walking home late" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:11:32 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Attn All E-Bay'ers To those of you who do the E-Bay thang: There are some rare editions of Both Sides Now that I found on E-Bay. If anybody would like to step up and bid/get these, it would be great for our project! Item# 1405901167 Ray Brown LP "Just Ray Brown" Item# 1405938623 Brad Swanson & His Whispering Organ Item# 1407106534 Ian McShane "From Both Sides Now" (this is a UK item) Item# 1406512033 Phyllis Newman "Those Were The Days" (performed with Jerry Notaro) Item# 1407279633 The Collection (a 45 rpm record) Some of this is really rare...as much searching as I've done, I've never seen these available or even KNOWN of them! Maybe we can divvy them up so we don't bid against each other, or maybe one person can be in charge of snagging them all. I'd be glad to pony up a fair share...Pearl? Leslie? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:05:23 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Jaco Who Loves You? Hello Gang- I don't remember if I posted about this record when I got it last year or not, but it is worth posting again anyway. I got a copy of "A Tribute to Jaco Pastorius" called "Who Loves You?", that was put out on Concord Jazz. It is a wonderful record with some of the most superb players out there, including many Joni alumnus players. The list goes like this: Don Alias, Michael Brecker, Peter Erskine, Victor Bailey, Randy Brecker, Hiram Bullock, Steve Cardenas, Mark Egan, Bill Evans, Steve Gadd, Bob James, Will Lee, Marcus Miller, John Patitucci, David Sanborn, Mike Stern + many many more. The really obvious thing is NO Joni Mitchell. Jaco was big in the Jazz camp, but it was Joni who brought him to an even wider audience (and verse vica). Of course there are no girls on this record so maybe it was a Dale Evans/Roy Rodgers thing (wink wink). Anyways for all you Jazzers out there, hjere is your heads up about new product available that gets my stamp I was also reading the new Jazz Times about Andy Summers and his new Mingus project and of course you know who went there SO "five minutes ago" and did a brilliant job at that. In other news, I happened to be pushing the buttons on the car radio this morning and stopped on a sports shos called The Game and it caught my ear cause they were talking about the very first SuperBowl and the fact that there is no footage of it (which I thought strange). Both announcers said something about "you never know what you have untill its gone". Both guys thanked Joni Mitchell and while one sited the fact that they put up a parking lot, the other muttered something about a Big Yellow Taxi. I laughed out loud cause once again it shows how prolific and wide she reaches, even the jocks are hip to Joni! Best, Michael (who ran track and played soccer in High school but was NEVER considered a jock cause I was a freak. Right Jack???) NP-Blue-From The Alternate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:19:03 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > To those of you who do the E-Bay thang: > > There are some rare editions of Both Sides Now that I found on E-Bay. If anybody would like to step up and bid/get these, it would be great for our project!Item# 1406512033 > Phyllis Newman "Those Were The Days" > (performed with Jerry Notaro) Very funny, Mr. Muller. I actually worked with Phyliss about 22 years ago on a show called The Madwoman of Central Park. She was wonderful. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:35:21 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Joni Paintings on the Net Hi Richard! I think that the following link is the one that you were asking about: http://www.malanga.co.uk/diary/ This site can be linked to via www.jonimitchell.com The entry is 06/29/00 and the link is entitled "Diary Of A Decade". Enjoy, Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:16:54 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers I am bidding on the Ray Brown and I bought Item# 1407279633 - The Collection outright on the buy it now option. Is the ebay ID "Miles" someone on the list. I find myself bidding against this person quite a bit :( Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:05:00 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: Joni's paintings on the net? Hey Mr. Bob, Thanks. I did peruse those. There was *some* other site that had been posted somewhere on the jmdl about 3-6 months ago...someone had scanned and put up a ton of high-resolution photos of Joni's paintings, right up to TTT and BSN. And others just from her own collection, not on albums. I wonder where that was... You are an angel though, I hope you know that. Richard - ------- \At 3:40 PM -0500 2/1/01, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: ><> > >It may not help you, Richard, but there ARE quite a few paintings that you >can use for wallpaper, etc. at: > >http://www.jmdl.com/shinytoys/art/ > >Bob > >NP: Peter Case, "walking home late" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:09:17 -0800 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Re: Joni Paintings on the Net Stephen, Actually it's this link: http://www.jmdl.com/shinytoys/art/ Duh! It was right in front of me all the time. Thanks though! xoxox - -Richard ======== At 4:35 PM -0500 2/1/01, SMEBD@aol.com wrote: >Hi Richard! > >I think that the following link is the one that you were asking about: > >http://www.malanga.co.uk/diary/ > >This site can be linked to via www.jonimitchell.com The entry is 06/29/00 >and >the link is entitled "Diary Of A Decade". > >Enjoy, > >Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:10:59 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers It's best if you bib on them just minutes before the auction closes. It might be best to assign one person to an item so that we're not bidding against one another. I'd be happy to bid for ya, but tell me which one? Rose ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:00:46 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers << I am bidding on the Ray Brown and I bought Item# 1407279633 - The Collection outright on the buy it now option.>> Yippee Cassy - you rule! 'Preciate you stepping up with that "Buy Now"! I *was* showing that cover as "Hot Biscuit Disco" as the performer, now we have the right information and the cover to boot! Keep me posted on the Ray Brown! Bob NP: Mark Knopfler, "Sailing To Philadelphia" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:04:03 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers << I'd be happy to bid for ya, but tell me which one? >> Well, if Cassy's going for the Ray Brown, you can pick either the Phyllis Newman, Brad Swanson, or Ian McShane! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:24:24 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers In a message dated 2/1/01 7:17:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << Well, if Cassy's going for the Ray Brown, you can pick either the Phyllis Newman, Brad Swanson, or Ian McShane! >> Ok, Boberino, Ian McShane it is. now none of yas be trying to outbid me on this. Rosalita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:26:24 EST From: WirlyPearl@aol.com Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers Hey Bob, I've already got a bid in on Brad Swanson. I'll be watching it. Pearl > > << I'd be happy to bid for ya, but tell me which one? >> > > Well, if Cassy's going for the Ray Brown, you can pick either the Phyllis > Newman, Brad Swanson, or Ian McShane! > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:57:54 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: a few favorites Julius- Great post man! Why don't you write some lyrics. Beautifully done! Michael NP-The Dreaming Tree-DMB on 1/31/01 10:08 PM, JRMCo1@aol.com at JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > Mark favors: > > < Bashing in veins for peace > Cold blue steel & sweet fire > Fall into Lady Release>> > > This image is so utterly brilliant it give me goose-flesh and makes me murmur > "be still my beating heart." The disarming alliteration. The metaphorical > duality. The symbolic juxtaposition. The human frailty and mortality she > lays bear. Her masterful personification of the inanimate opiate, and the > imagery she creates from its accoutrement. The subtle way she creates > seamless setting throughout the song. How she onomatopoetically sings > "sweet." Every time I hear this song I find more gorgeous nuance. > > Even more awe-inspiring when one considers the visceral quality of the > hypnotic music she weaves around this poetic genius. The opening chords and > the feeling they evoke, acclimating the listener to the mood and message of > the song. One can't help but empathize with her characters and dwell in the > other-world she creates. Siquomb says it all. > > Thanks for pointing this one out, Mark. And I thank whatever gods may be for > Joni. All my love is due her. > > -Julius > np: Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:59:47 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni moment #4,602 Way tooo cool Les. Great painting too. Paz on 1/31/01 11:21 PM, Les Irvin at les@jmdl.com wrote: > Joniphiles - > I'm out in LA on business for a couple of days (hi Kakki!) and had an > interesting Joni moment. A group of people who work with me were taken > out to dinner this evening by the locals - to a place in Venice called > "Hal's". As we were being seated, I noticed a lot of artwork hanging on > the walls. I began looking around at the paintings and turned to see the > one right behind my chair on the wall. > > It was an original Joni Mitchell painting! > > Even more bizarre was that fact that it was one of only about two pieces of > her artwork that I have displayed on the JMDL site - seen here > http://www.jmdl.com/credits.cfm > > Go figure.... > Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 19:12:45 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Lanois Studio Gone For Good on 2/1/01 8:12 AM, Catherine McKay at anima_rising@yahoo.ca wrote: > > --- Michael Paz wrote: >> Hello All- >> I was reading the paper today and they had a >> lengthy article about >> Daniel Lanois's studio closing up for good here. The >> building is on the >> market now for $1.5 mil if anyone is interested. > > I wish I had that kind of $$$. This sounds like an > amazing evening - must admit the part I most enjoyed, > in a sick kind of way is this: > >> I sat in one of >> the big rooms during the evening and played Chinese >> Cafe on the Grand Piano. >> Some girl came up to me and asked me if I had >> written the tune and I told no >> that Joni Mitchell had written it. "Oh!", she said, >> "who's that?" I don't >> think she really wanted to know, it was probably >> more of a "are you famous?" >> type of thing. > > How do these people get invited to these things, anyway? They are called hangers on. And they get there by hook or crook. They are always there. IN spanish we call them paracaidistas. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 19:09:41 -0600 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers Hi Bob! I've got a bid in for the Phyllis Newman. We've got 4 days to go. One of us will be there for the final min. :~) jody ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 20:58:53 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Superbowl (wasJaco Who Loves You?) I wasn't gonna bore you guys with this coincidental minutia, but this segue is just too tempting. Re: this year's Super Bowl, I got grins from the fact that the man who plays center on the Baltimore Ravens, the winning team, is named "J. Mitchell." It's emblazoned on the back of his uniform shirt. Many millions saw "J. Mitchell" every time the Ravens had the ball, which was alot. I wonder how many others across the globe made the association. (For the uninitiated, the center is the guy sho "snaps" the football to the quarterback to begin every play from scrimmage. The quarterback is the guy who...aw, skip it.) :-) - -Julius <> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:22:42 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers << Ok, Boberino, Ian McShane it is. now none of yas be trying to outbid me on this. >> If it gets too pricy, Rosalita, just let it go...after all, shit, it's only a record! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:29:07 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Attn All E-Bay'ers << I've already got a bid in on Brad Swanson. I'll be watching it. >> Thanks for stepping up Pearl...and how would this be for a pick-up line: "Hi baby, I'm Brad Swanson, and this is my whispering organ" LOL! Bob NP: Wife rooting for Tarheels vs. Dookies ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:38:40 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: meet the beatles!!!!! sjc (md) Interesting question Wally. I can say by virtue of parental experience that kids today are if anything totally unaffected by any of the music of the 60's or Jonis generation. but it depends which group of kids. Theres a small miniscule minority that appreciates music and its history and evolution of which there are some. But only a few. Or the great majority of kids to whom music is only acceptable as an aural vibrator simply stimulating the reptilian part of the brain. Kids today completely dismiss things that require a million hours of practice and or a million tons of tallent is exchange they go wild over simple anarchy. Produciton values regardless of their absolute creative genius arent even achieved awareness of the listener. Someone throwing up on stage on purpose is valid, someone sounding like they are producing an orchestra from their fingertips is ignored or mocked and dismissed. I dont relish saying this but its true. Theres an interesting commericial on TV that shows a guy using a CD Burner to make a custon tape for his dinner date. Shes a beauty naturally and as they sit down to dinner he puts on the CD called "love music" and out comes something that can best be described as Freddy from the Nightmare Dream movies verbalizing the most banal lyrics "Duh I luv U". Needless to say the kids totally dig this "music" and they dance at their dinner table. Really enjoying this unbelieveably bad music. Thats classic here and now. Then again this "music" is to actual music what totally radical modern art is to real art. Hey a nail in a can alone on a stark white piece of aluminum....wow man its endless suffering....cool. How much did Monet affect Dada. Now how does Jonis music relate to this trash music-less music? I cant see any way she or any other great song crafter in history would be responsible for any of its missing qualities., We are going through a real nihilist, Dada esque period in music. We'll get through it eventualy and after we do I would look for Joni to begin to affect writers and artists more 50 years from now than now. In fact Im waiting for the next ultra phenomenon as I write this. Not necessarily in Rock or Pop but in classical. Im waiting for the Tiger Woods of Violin Soloists. Someone so incredible no one can believe it. Someone who makes the Zuchermans and the Yo Yo Mas go "woah". Absolutely bound to happen. It could but probably wont in rock music because music is so much part of youth that it caters to the needs and desires of the young. Thats another thing that makes Joni so special to me. Shes still evolving, still growing, still advancing, still vital. Still every bit as competitive as she ever was. Thats no small task after youve done your 23rd album. Thas why I think music industry sucks today. they have abandoned art for the pavlovian. The WCW Smakdown is needed just to get the audiences attention. Dont even show up if you wont be rude, crude or lewd Dude. The appreciation for subtle nuances as a factor in art is totally missing. Sure some could say the same thing about Hendrix and the Stones back then but Hendrix could actually play amazing creative things. Elvis could really sing. Towenshend, Beck, and Gilmore actually invented things. None of that is happening today. So it means that it may be that way BECAUSE Joni isnt effecting the modern artist. Brittany Spears or Eminem ever paint? Marcel Deste ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:08:52 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: meet the beatles!!!!! i am tempted to agree with you, marcel. causality seems to have ceased to exist as an existential phenomenon! i am so amazed at the lack of repercussion, of effect, of echo. it is almost as if we lived in a medium that is an environment no more: it lacks the properties that define an environment: elasticity, plasticity, the ability to reverberate, to reflect, to deflect. matter is not impenetrable anymore and solids don't project a shadow. mind you, i am not discussing things postmodern but simply vacuum here. i kept thinking about my own question today: a world with a past that does not include the beatles, for instance. i realized that all my conclusions after this exercise in virtual history were tinged with the assumptions arising from my nature as a inherently CAUSAL-thinking person. somewhere along the development?/devolution?/stasis? of culture the cause/effect relationship was lost and, what's more surprising, ''history'' seems to be doing quite handsomely without it! wallyK p.s.: dadaism and other movements were reactions so they were part of causal history. i'm not about to buy the 7 or 8 or 10 monochromatic canvasses exhibited at the metropolitan museum in new york, but i can live with the fact that they're hung there. they came after, and because of, something. now the dinner ''love'' music example...well, give me 50 years to think about it. - -----Mensaje original----- De: MDESTE1@aol.com [mailto:MDESTE1@aol.com] Enviado el: Jueves, 01 de Febrero de 2001 11:39 p.m. Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar; joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: meet the beatles!!!!! sjc (md) Interesting question Wally. I can say by virtue of parental experience that kids today are if anything totally unaffected by any of the music of the 60's or Jonis generation. but it depends which group of kids. Theres a small miniscule minority that appreciates music and its history and evolution of which there are some. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:09:11 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Covert complicity;notches > Maybe you or someone out there could help me with " Petrified wood > process tall timber down to rock". I've never been really sure what she's getting at here, either, Megan. She refers to Anima as a 'vengeful little goddess' earlier in the song so maybe she's talking about a wooden or stone idol. I don't know, but I've always gotten the sense that the man is somehow saying that her independence & strength do nothing but emasculate him - they change his stature & strength into something broken down & useless - process tall timber down to rock. Just speculating here. Anyone else care to weigh in? I agree that this song is one of her most puzzling. To me this one reads more like a poem than almost any of her other lyrics. I wonder if she would 'smell a rat' if someone else had written it? ;-) Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:36:42 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Joni's paintings on the net? Hi Richard, Are you thinking of Ken's "Shiny Toys" section of JMDL? There are a ton of jpg files at http://www.jmdl.com/shinytoys/art/ and a Windows screen saver at http://www.jmdl.com/shinytoys/icons.cfm Hope this helps. Lama Richard asked: [[I know I asked this before here a few weeks ago, but didn't get any response. I lost a lot of my data in a crash (it happens. Back it up!). And...I remember there was a site (not the 'official' site) but . . . someone's site, that had a lot of her paintings from the Mendell and maybe a few others, on it, that I wanted to use as 'desktop'. ]] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:03:58 -0800 From: "Jack Neilson" Subject: Jaco who Loves you A freak with a Fro I might add.,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:25:55 -0800 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Lake of Pontoon Planes Steve, you wrote: No, you're not. I'm currently trying to transcribe the audio interviews for Les's site and am working on the WMMR interviews with Gene Shay, Part 1. She says that she made up that story I think just to see if people would believe it. Here's the excerpt: "And I use to give all this folklore on stage, and it used to be all completely inaccurate because I really didn't know anything about the town. All I ever saw of it was from a train window, and I happened to be looking out of the side of the train that the town wasn't actually on, so all I saw was a sign that said "Kenora" and a big lake and big rocks and big trees and the lake was covered with pontoon planes. So I thought that was all that was there, you know. And I also thought that Kenora was an Indian word, and I used to tell people that it meant 'land of many pontoon planes.' (Laughs) That wasn't true either." I'm glad you spelled Kenora for me. I think I was about to spell it "Canora" (but I probably would have double-checked around Les's site before finalizing it ; ) Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:35:08 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Mingus Documentary cassy wrote: > Interestingly enough, a while back the Bravo "Mingus" documentary > aired. > They aired a short > portion of one of these tapes and there was Charles, voice reed thin, > obviously not in the prime of health singing the music to "Chair in > The Sky." The title at the bottom of the screen showed "'Chair in > The Sky,' originally recorded by Joni Mitchell." It was the only > reference to her during the whole show. > > I just thought you might find this interesting. I find it insulting! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 00:44:12 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Jaco who Loves you on 2/1/01 11:03 PM, Jack Neilson at decaffno@earthlink.net wrote: > A freak with a Fro I might add.,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > Carefull I could tell a tale or two about s certain neebie round here. Paz (off to bed late) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #38 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?