From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #37 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 1 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 037 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Thought for the Day - Favourite Lyric #876-32 ["Ross, Les" ] Kerry's therapy ["william" ] [none] ["BRIAN SYMES" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #51 [Ianzazen@aol.com] joni lyrics [Kate ] Lanois Studio Gone For Good [Michael Paz ] Re: Lanois Studio Gone For Good [Jason Maloney ] Re: joni lyrics [IVPAUL42@aol.com] a few favorites ["Mark or Travis" ] Listening to Joni before dying [Relayer211@aol.com] Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: a few favorites [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Lanois Studio Gone For Good [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Listening to Joni before dying [Murphycopy@aol.com] Joni moment #4,602 [Les Irvin ] Re: Joni moment #4,602 ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:23:36 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: Thought for the Day - Favourite Lyric #876-32 ....here's one that captivates through recognition: In our possessive coupling So much could not be expressed So now I'm returning to myself These things that you and I suppressed I expect that everyone reading this particular thread is going to marvel at how many truly excellent and moving collections of words Joni has brought to us over the years. Everyone that I've read so far from the listers, I've been able to nod to myself and say, "oh yeeeeah!." Les (London) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:16:46 EST From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Today's favorite And I play if you have the money Or if you're some kind of friend to me But the one man band By the quick lunch stand He was playing real good... and for free ..I meant to go over and ask for a song Maybe put on a harmony I heard his refrain As the signal changed He was playing real good for free Joni is often brutally honest about herself, for some reason I find the candidness and honesty in these lyrics almost shocking - especially as interpreted on MOA. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:20:17 +0700 From: "william" Subject: Doh a dear Joni Megan wrote about DITS from HOSL, +ADw-First, I have to say this is one of my favorite JM songs of all time, as well as a source of endless speculation for me.+AD4- I couldn't agree more. Endless speculation big time on a song that shivers me timbres, so to speak, each and every time I hear it. The sheer obscurity of the words , for me anyway, lends to the never-ending wonder of the song. :-) Definitely one of her most impenetrable and I'd be quite happy to leave it that way, though should we ever be enlightened as to the meanings of Petrified wood and Ethiopian wall and ... I'll sure lend an ear. From day one, the entire song (to be heard as a whole) blew me away and only years after when I found the guitar tuning and tried to play it, did I realise I couldn't and never would be able to. She went up in my estimation even more. DITS is in my top 5 for sure if not top 3. In no particular order, though as is so often said here on the Line, tomorrow's choice might be different. Don't Interrupt the Sorrow Song for Sharon Down to You Ludwig's Tune Don Juan's Reckless Daughter No, it's impossible to choose just five. Funny though that three of them begin with Do. Doh a dear Joni. I see Joni's work having three principle eras with a fourth emerging. STAS to LOTC / FTR is her first period. FTR / C+ACY-S to DJRD / Ming her second. Ming to TI / TTT her third. TTT / BSN her current. I'll stick my neck out and say there's a treading water time in those lost 80s. That's how I see it anyway and the five songs I've aforementioned all belong to the second phase. That's when I found Joni and I suppose it's the one era that I relate to most. Biased opinion of course but I think it's her best. Willy the Shake ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:03:41 +0700 From: "william" Subject: Kerry's therapy Kerry, You don't need therapy. The Grammys do+ACE- Willy the Shake ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:53:59 -0800 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: [none] I Finally went down to "Boorders" to check out the Joni Bio and spent 4 hours reading about the early years. Some of the his writing is confusing and i wished he had some pictures for reference to the things he was describing. He never really got it right about how Joni just didn't disappear with a lot of other folk singers of the 60's and 70's. It was because of her brilliant verse in her songs and the genius in composition of the music in these songs. My Favorite album is based on my personal history. I bought every disc starting from the first till Hejira which is my pick at this point in time I was haunting a lot of jazz/blues clubs in Detroit and Pat Metheny and Larry Coryell Fan. When making long trips to Ann Arbor or E.Lansing in the winter I would dream up Joni Skating the Icy swales next to the freeways while I would play Hejira on tape.I now have a two year old "Amelia " and I spin this cut trying to teach her to say her name.Afer Hejira came out,I moved to New Hampshire to an area that Culturally Devoid. Brian's Unite in a Hooray! for Mags Brian recovery. Bye - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:54:29 EST From: Ianzazen@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2001 #51 PLEASE TAKE ME OFF YOUR E_MAIL LIST> I WISH TO NO FURTHER RECEIVE POSTS> THANK YOU IAN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:28:49 -0600 From: Kate Subject: joni lyrics I hope I'm not repeating anything someone's already posted. I apologize if I have -- sometimes I have to skim through the contents list at the top and not actually read the entire digest. But I particularly enjoyed reading which of Joni's lyrics have stayed in the minds of everyone -- I find her writing just fucking amazing, I really do, and the kicker is when it is set to music it is a thousand times more clear and meaningful just because of the rhythm of it -- I am not a good analyzer of WHY some of her lyrics touch me the way they do, but here are some I can never forget: "sometimes change comes at you like a broadside accident; there is chaos to the order - random things you can't prevent." and "we look like our mothers did - NOW - when we were those kids' age" and "little garden planet oasis in space" "calls your baby 'it' while strolling through your tragic trials" Ah well. My 2 cents. She's incredible. Kate Weird Aunt Kate's Letter Out http://www.connect.ab.ca/~katej ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:41:52 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Lanois Studio Gone For Good Hello All- I was reading the paper today and they had a lengthy article about Daniel Lanois's studio closing up for good here. The building is on the market now for $1.5 mil if anyone is interested. Its a groovy dark place on the edge of the french quarter. Ani diFranco put an offer in for the place, but was turned down for too low a bid. Lots of cool records were made there like: subdudes Lucky, EmmyLou Harris Wrecking Ball, Sheryl Crows follow to to Tuesday Night.., Peter Gabriel Us, Squirrel Nut Zippers Hot + a couple of others, REM recorded there, + many many more. There was over a hundred projects come thru there over the ten years it was here. The manager Karen Brady recounted one of the most memorable moments for her was Neil Young slow dancing with his wife to and EmmyLou song during that session. I have a couple of memories from that space and time. One Jazz Fest I was invited there for a party and Carole King was there. Dan set up his band at the bottom of the huge staircase and treated us to some songs. Carole sang Chains with him. Aaron stopped in and sang God On Our Side all with Brian Blade on drums most of the evening. Bill Dillon was on guitars and guitorgan (check him out on TI and NRH). It was an incredible evening. I sat in one of the big rooms during the evening and played Chinese Cafe on the Grand Piano. Some girl came up to me and asked me if I had written the tune and I told no that Joni Mitchell had written it. "Oh!", she said, "who's that?" I don't think she really wanted to know, it was probably more of a "are you famous?" type of thing. My friend Joe recorded his album The Scoundrels Waltz there and there's a couple of things I better NOT post about that experience. I know Joni was there at some point and I think there was some discussion of her doing something there and/or Lanois producing a record for her. I know Dan was responsible ofr turning her on to Brian. It is so sad to see the old place go by the wayside. Later, Michael NP-Hourglass-Michael Franks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 02:59:06 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: Lanois Studio Gone For Good Michael, Oh my word! You lived out one of my fanatsies...I was speechless reading your account of that party. What a wonderful experience. Ever since I saw a program on Daniel Lanois (around the time of his 2nd solo album..1993?) which had lots of footage centered around his studio, I've wanted to go there. Such a shame he's had to sell-up...yet another victory for cynically-marketed pap. Is there anyhwere online that a Brit can read/see this article in full??? Best wishes, Jason. http://www.the-slipstream.co.uk (which doesn't have enough Lanois content - I should put that right, I know...well, actually "So" is top of the all-time album list! Does that excuse me?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:17:56 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: joni lyrics "Love is touching souls; surely you've touched mine cause part of you pours out of me in these lines from time to time." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:43:50 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: a few favorites Concrete concentration camps Bashing in veins for peace Cold blue steel & sweet fire Fall into Lady Release ----- You criticize & you flatter You imitate the best and the rest you memorize You know the times you impress me the most Are the times when you don't try When you don't even try ----- Condemned to wires & hammers Strike very chord that you feel That broken trees And elephant ivories conceal - ----- But I couldn't let go of L A City of the fallen angels - ----- Oh I am a lonely painter I live in a box of paints I'm frightened by the devil And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't afraid - ----- "I'm a burning hearth," he said "People see the smoke But no-one comes to warm themselves Sloughing off a coat And all my little landscapes All my yellow afternoons Stack up around this vacancy Like dirty cups & spoons No mercy, sweet Jesus! No mercy from turbulent indigo." - ----- He said "I wish you were with me here The leaves are electric They burn on the riverbank Countless, heatless flames." I said "Well send me some pictures then And I'll paint pyrotechnic Explosions of your autumn Til we meet again." - ----- This river has run through both our lives Between these banks of our continuing delights Bless us, don't let us lose the drift, you know Happiness is the best facelift I'm so happy that Brian is doing so well. What a blessing that they were able to find out about this before it was too late! All the best to Brian & Mags. With Mags by his side, I know Brian will heal & be as good as new. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:57:13 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Listening to Joni before dying Does everybody remember the short interview with Joni in Entertainment Weekly a few years ago, where Joni said she knew someone who was dying of Aids, who liked her music so much, he listened to all of it, throughout out the entire day, and then died that night? I found that a fascinating story. I wonder what music would mean so much to me, I'd want to listen to it on my death bed. I think maybe I would want "Shadows and light" playing, before I die. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:16:14 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Kate's Web cast: Tuesday, 2AM GMT Kate's live web cast Monday, Feb 5 starts at 6 PM Pacific. Since Pacific Time is GMT-8 hours, by my math, Kate's web cast starts at London Time (Greenwich Mean Time) on Tuesday morning at 2 AM (GMT). I hope everyone can figure out when this is relative to GMT. Go Kate! Lama ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:08:01 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: a few favorites Mark favors: <> This image is so utterly brilliant it give me goose-flesh and makes me murmur "be still my beating heart." The disarming alliteration. The metaphorical duality. The symbolic juxtaposition. The human frailty and mortality she lays bear. Her masterful personification of the inanimate opiate, and the imagery she creates from its accoutrement. The subtle way she creates seamless setting throughout the song. How she onomatopoetically sings "sweet." Every time I hear this song I find more gorgeous nuance. Even more awe-inspiring when one considers the visceral quality of the hypnotic music she weaves around this poetic genius. The opening chords and the feeling they evoke, acclimating the listener to the mood and message of the song. One can't help but empathize with her characters and dwell in the other-world she creates. Siquomb says it all. Thanks for pointing this one out, Mark. And I thank whatever gods may be for Joni. All my love is due her. - -Julius np: Cold Blue Steel & Sweet Fire ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 01:31:02 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Lanois Studio Gone For Good Sweet post, Brother Paz. "Auld Lang Sine" started playing in my head as images of the performers you recalled were dancing between your lines and before my eyes. It occurs to me that I'm starting to visualize classic music and musicians documentary-style these days, what with the Jazz series and the Joni video trees on the forefront of my psyche. I don't mind. Yeah, I'm totally interested in buying the place! Think they have change for a 2 million dollar bill? Let's go escrow. Thanks for the memories. I *can* believe in things I've never seen before. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 02:23:11 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Listening to Joni before dying In a message dated 1/31/01 11:09:25 PM, Relayer211@aol.com writes: << I would want "Shadows and light" playing, before I die. >> I'd like Madonna's "Please Don't Tell Me to Stop." --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 00:21:20 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Joni moment #4,602 Joniphiles - I'm out in LA on business for a couple of days (hi Kakki!) and had an interesting Joni moment. A group of people who work with me were taken out to dinner this evening by the locals - to a place in Venice called "Hal's". As we were being seated, I noticed a lot of artwork hanging on the walls. I began looking around at the paintings and turned to see the one right behind my chair on the wall. It was an original Joni Mitchell painting! Even more bizarre was that fact that it was one of only about two pieces of her artwork that I have displayed on the JMDL site - seen here http://www.jmdl.com/credits.cfm Go figure.... Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:29:50 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni moment #4,602 WOW Les What a fantastic Joni moment - that Joni tribe "mojo" must be working again! Incredible. Hmmmm, wonder what else you may encounter while in L.A.? ;-) Keep us posted. Kakki > Joniphiles - > I'm out in LA on business for a couple of days (hi Kakki!) and had an > interesting Joni moment. A group of people who work with me were taken > out to dinner this evening by the locals - to a place in Venice called > "Hal's". As we were being seated, I noticed a lot of artwork hanging on > the walls. I began looking around at the paintings and turned to see the > one right behind my chair on the wall. > > It was an original Joni Mitchell painting! > > Even more bizarre was that fact that it was one of only about two pieces of > her artwork that I have displayed on the JMDL site - seen here > http://www.jmdl.com/credits.cfm > > Go figure.... > Les ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #37 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?