From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #4 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, January 5 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 004 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Grammys [Joseph Palis ] Sandra Bernhard mentions Joni [Joseph Palis ] More about covers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Video Tree #2 ["Gerald Notaro (LIB)" ] Re: Video Tree #2 - Post Office requirements ["MusicIsSpecial" ] fresh spring [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Video Tree #2 - Post Office requirements ["Kakki" ] Grammy Performers [Penny ] James Taylor Book, continued [moonlj@san.rr.com (Lindsay,Moon)] Re:The Cranston Controversy. [Richard Rice ] Re: fresh spring [RoseMJoy@aol.com] joni on bravo [evian ] Re: Fred Walecki ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:40:17 +0800 (PHT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Grammys thanks for the Grammy's URL. Joni's BSN album was likewise nominated for a different category: Vince Mendoza's orchestral work! Joni was nominated twice in that category for her renditions of BSN and ACOY. No other artist in that category was nominated twice. Vince gets the award, though if Joni's album wins. joseph (glad to find good jazz singers nominated in the jazz vocal category: Dee Dee Bridgewater, Freddy Cole, Kurt Elling, Nnenna Freelon and Dianne Reeves) On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Mark or Travis wrote: > > Congrats to the Grammy folks for the Joni nominations! > > > > Bob > > Yeah, 2 for Joni ain't too shabby, as far as the Grammys go. They > also nominated 'Red Dirt Girl' for best contemporary folk album so > somebody in NARAS must have some decent taste in music! > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 19:43:40 +0800 (PHT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Sandra Bernhard mentions Joni I don't know what interview this originally came from, but a Philippine newspaper compiled quotes from various personalities and Sandra Bernhard said: "Bernhard: I would say my greatest overall influence is rock and roll. Even from Laura Nyro to Joni Mitchell, from Marianne Faithfull to Chrissie Hynde, the element is rock and roll, even if it's poetic and Bob Dylan-esque in content. It's that kind of musicit's lyrical that influences me the most. " Does anyone know what interview this came from? How recent? I heard from friends that Bernhard did a music album, is this true? Joseph (whose eyes can easily spot a "Joni Mitchell" from the printed page easily) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 08:36:38 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Sandra Bernhard mentions Joni <> Her first full foray into the music arena was the LP "I'm Your Woman". Because she had a background in comedy, people didn't know what to make of it but it was generally reviewed well as I recall. I'm sure she faces some of the same criticism that Joni endures trying to pursue two different artistic pursuits simultaneously. Bernhard also has a CD out taken from her show "I'm Still Here, Damn It", which contains stand-up and songs like "Midnight Train to Georgia". She also has sung Joni's songs on stage, although none of them have been "officially" recorded. I'd love to snag a Sandra vocal for our collection! Bob NP: w.g.snuffy walden, "hot butter (miles comes to dinner)" PS: Anybody know what the original title of Midnight Train to Georgia was? ;~) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 09:00:27 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Grammys Joseph Palis wrote: > thanks for the Grammy's URL. Joni's BSN album was likewise nominated for a > different category: Vince Mendoza's orchestral work! Joni was nominated > twice in that category for her renditions of BSN and ACOY. No other artist > in that category was nominated twice. Vince gets the award, though if > Joni's album wins. Just to clarify, it is Vince that is nominated in that category, not Joni. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 09:34:54 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: More about covers <> Oh you already got the gold star for Chaka's sensational "Man From Mars"! (which some of you are just a day or so away from hearing) Bill, you're currently on the "pending full subscriber status" list. I meet with the Board of Directors on Monday, so I'll put in a good word! ;~) <> I'm watching, I'm watching...and I DO wish we could snag a "Car On A Hill" cover...considering how popular Court and Spark was, those songs are rarely covered. Perhaps everyone thinks Joni's versions can't be improved on? They're right, of course, but I'd still love to hear them try. I fear that Duncan Sheik's upcoming "Court and Spark" will set back further efforts about 10 years! I'm counting on k.d. and Sir Elton to pick him up. And I almost fell back in my chair this week when I found (what I thought was) a cover of "The Wizard of Is"...alas, it was another song with the same title. Who'da thunk it? Bob NP: Filter, "Thanks Bro" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:58:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald Notaro (LIB)" Subject: Video Tree #2 I sent off one of my leaves' copies yesterday in the mail and it was returned to me with a sticker that says: We regret that your mail is being returned to you because of heightened security measures. All domestic mail weighing 16 ounces or over that bears stamps and all international and military APO?FPO mail weighing 16 ounces or over MUST be presented to a retail clerk at a post office. Is this something new? If so, it is going to add a lot of time and trouble for branch leaders. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:30:53 -0600 From: "MusicIsSpecial" Subject: Re: Video Tree #2 - Post Office requirements the Post Office requirement has been around for at least one year if not longer. if you are on really good terms with your mailman (and you have stamps, etc at home) you might be able to leave it in your own mailbox and he/she will take it. mine does. else its in to the window at the post office. its meant to stop somebody dropping a letter bomb into some street corner mailbox without being IDed eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:09:33 +0000 From: "Karen O'Brien" Subject: Joni book update / info please I last posted some time ago to say hello and let you know about the Joni Mitchell biography Im writing, Joni Mitchell: Shadows and Light. The book is progressing well and will be published in October this year. I know that several Listers either knew Joni or followed her career in the early days of Toronto and Detroit clubs and I would love to hear from you, if you had a moment or two to e-mail me. My huge thanks to those people who have been so positive about the Joni book. And my best wishes to all JMDLers for a wonderful year, Karen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:19:23 -0600 From: "J.David Sapp" Subject: TNT tribute I apologize if this is old news but do I spot Kilauren in the front row in an orange blouse at the TNT tribute & who besides Freed & Krall are sitting in the box with Mitchell - peace, david ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:15:14 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: fresh spring i had to run up to atlanta yesterday for some meetings. i met victor johnson last night for dinner and then some music. we had tai food which was really excellent and then went to his girlfriend holly's house. victor is a very talented musician who could make music with anything you give him. at one point, i played some song i wrote and he left the room and came back with a flute and it felt as if ian anderson had just joined in. jethro tull was one of my all time favorite bands while growing up. today, looking back on that, ...that was a really cool moment. to hear aggressive breathy flute playing to some old song i'm used to playing alone. i want to say something about victor as a person, not just a musician. victor has a pure heart. i told both him and holly that last night. today, he reminds me of a fresh spring that winds it's way down a mountain, that weaves and tangles all over. and some how, this spring has remained unpolluted. and alot of hikers on that mountain, might just skip on by or step right over that fresh spring and keep moving up their hill. i guess today i feel very fortunate because of this list. because of the list, i knew to stop and look into that clear water and drink from it. and it was very refreshing and joyful and it has a real impact on my life. patrick np. radiohead - kid a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:34:26 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Video Tree #2 - Post Office requirements About 4 months ago a substitute mail carrier for my building yelled at me for not knowing any better than to drop it off for her. That was the first I'd heard of the new requirement. Luckily the P.O. is across the street from me, too, plus I have a kind buddy in the law firm mail room, too, whol helps me out and who always seems intrigued by my packages to many countries ;-) Kakki Eric wrote: > the Post Office requirement has been around for at least one year > if not longer. > > if you are on really good terms with your mailman (and you have > stamps, etc at home) you might be able to leave it in your own > mailbox and he/she will take it. mine does. else its in to the > window at the post office. its meant to stop somebody dropping a > letter bomb into some street corner mailbox without being IDed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:31:00 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #3 In a message dated 1/4/01 3:18:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << I also bought the Brian Hinton book on Joni so I'll be delving into some more unmitigated lies. Jeez, I must be desperate for bad gossip! >> I thought the Brian Hinton book was fair and a good bio. Equally as good was his turn on Van Morrison. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:55:53 -0000 From: "Carlo Marco" Subject: Trading Dear friends, I heard about the Joni's tapes and I've readed alla the document about trading but, really, I didn't understood what have I to do have'em. Please can you help me? Many Thanks for your help _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:14:24 -0800 (PST) From: Penny Subject: Grammy Performers About the Grammys. Do we have any listers that are card carrying members who get to vote this year? And is there any rhyme or reason to which artists are asked to perform on the program? You already know where I'm going with this -- what are our chances we'll get to witness Joni tear the house down as THE class act of the night, by performing, in grand, full orchestra style like the album and tour, BSN for the world wide audience??? ;-) ;-) Penny Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:48:40 -0800 From: moonlj@san.rr.com (Lindsay,Moon) Subject: James Taylor Book, continued Mark in Seattle responded to my writings about the JT autobiography: The JT book said that at some point Carly took to using a bathrobe sash to tie her ankle to James's after he was asleep so she'd know when he got up in the middle of the night to prowl for more drugs. He caught on, though, and extricated his foot from the sash and was gone again. I woke up this morning thinking of the Joni line: "oh, and deep in the night, our appetite finds us, releases and binds us, deep in the night ..." Kakki also responded: In all honesty, this could be my faulty memory (I should have taken notes!) I'd have to re-read that section of the chapter ... I started Hinton's book last night and it seems very entertaining. So far it seems pretty accurate (many quotes of Joni's I've read here and there.) I had trouble making myself go to bed at 11:30 (and my New Year's Resolution was to try to get to bed between 10 and 11). Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:02:30 -0600 From: Richard Rice Subject: Re:The Cranston Controversy. Hi all, The thought occured to me that it's possible Joni did two Black Crow ice skating shoots. One for the Hejira cover itself and another for the video footage that is included on the Shadows and Light japanese dvd. In which case, it's probable that both locations were used, since I can't picture them flying Toller out to cheese land just to get him in a rink. New York sounds right for that. The next part of my statement is an open plea to the list to gather leaders, name names and kick butt. I have fallen short in my efforts ot get an interview with Fred Walecki for the Joni sites. The one time I talked to him he did not sound in the best of health. Repeated emails turned up nothing and I confess I am concerned. I've written to a few listers in the hope that someone would make a contact for the list through his business. Assuming he's interested, if he is at all healthy enough to do an interview I think it's important that we act with some swiftness in this regard. In the past year I have lost two good friends and even a week or two in terms of contact meant a world of difference. We would be remiss to leave Fred's voice out of the official Joni sites. Both for his irreplacable knowledge about Joni and simply for the man himself. A rare and special person indeed. As Mark mentioned contact with Joel Bernstein would also be welcome. My god! What a great, great idea. Image the endless fun that interview would be. His familiarity with Joni's music has to be as rare and personal as anyone on this green earth. If no one knows how to get a hold of him, perhaps the contact through Fred's shop might lead to something. Certainly Fred Walecki has a fast track to Joni and her management. If anyone is as intrigued by all this as I am, I do hope you will step forward to the list and see if we can get a ball rolling! Maybe I should be asking Ashara to lend her management skills... deligate, girl. Deligate! Or perhaps I can make a contest of this ala Park Ranger Rick (most missed since the Saskatoon crazies, besides that lil whipper snapper, Emil). A painting of Joni to the person that pulls off the interview! --I'd make it a new car... except I need one myself. John. Now playing... the wisconsin badgers and the indiana hoosiers. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:18:55 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: fresh spring In a message dated 1/4/01 2:26:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Siresorrow@aol.com writes: << today, he reminds me of a fresh spring that winds it's way down a mountain, that weaves and tangles all over. and some how, this spring has remained unpolluted. and alot of hikers on that mountain, might just skip on by or step right over that fresh spring and keep moving up their hill. i guess today i feel very fortunate because of this list. because of the list, i knew to stop and look into that clear water and drink from it. and it was very refreshing and joyful and it has a real impact on my life. >> That was a very nice thing you said about Victor. I had the pleasure of meeting Victor at JoniFest this past year. Besides from being a very talented musician, Victor is a very sweet, caring and gentle young man. I've enjoyed listening to his CD "Tangled" quite often. It's funny but the way you described Victor reminds me of a line 5 of the I Ching in the hexagram "The Well" It reads: The water in the well is fresh and limpid. The man drinks from the cool spring. Another's mind and heart are opened to you. The other person only need an invitation to come and bring about the resolution of all your confusion. But- you do not know who the other person is. I'm happy that your time spent with Victor and Holly was a momentous one for you Pat. It just goes to show how very special a community of people this is. - - Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 23:23:11 -0600 From: evian Subject: joni on bravo I haven't seen any Joni mention on Bravo, but at the Mendel, the Bravo people were filming behind me and Penny. I remember it well, because I saw this uppity-looking-Bravo type woman, and then saw the Bravo logo on the camera! However, haven't seen a thing since then on the channel. Evian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:47:58 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Fred Walecki John, Paz and a few others of us may be going to visit Fred's store, Westwood Music, on Jan. 22nd. The store does not have evening hours but I have to go over that way for work in the next few days so I will check out the situation. If I learn anything before then, I'll let you know. I just checked out their web site and there is no news about Fred. However, it still lists the 6 Joni guitars for sale as "Coming Soon." I hope he is doing alright. I know someone who I believe knows Joel Bernstein fairly well. I'll see what I can find out on that end, too. Kakki ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2001 #4 ******************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?