From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #473 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, December 23 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 473 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni Mitchell LIVE in Austria and Ashara VLJC ["Ross, Les" ] emil adds neil to his list - some jc [Kate ] Joni references ["kerry" ] Holiday Greetings -- favorite tunes [Louis Lynch ] Beatles Trivia ["Michael Cooper" ] Today in Joni History - December 23 [Today in Joni History ] Today in Joni History - December 24 [Today in Joni History ] Re: Beatles Trivia [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Joni Mitchell LIVE in Austria [Gary Zack ] Re: Joni Mitchell LIVE in Austria [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Merry Xmas! ["Garret" ] A card for you [kate@katebennett.com] A card for you [kate@katebennett.com] good friends ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: good friends ["cassy" ] Re: Beatles Trivia - [Michael Paz ] Re: good friends [dsk ] Re: Atty. May's New Year's Eve Party! [Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell LIVE in Austria and Ashara VLJC after PaulIV - or whatever he calls himself - wrote : "In order for your medication to work..." etc etc. and some other derisive bollocks Ashara wrote : It's no wonder I am losing interest in reading my Joni mail when this is the kind of thing is constantly in my face. Disappointedly, Ashara my Response : Now this is really depressing. I hate that Ashara is moved to write these words. Someone who contributes in such a brilliantly positive way to our list should not find herself so demoralised like this ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 02:49:50 -0500 From: "Megan" Subject: Fw: Lindsey's post-WTRF picks - ----- Original Message ----- From: Megan To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Lindsey's post-WTRF picks > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: Megan > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: Lindsey's post-WTRF picks > > > > > > << Joni, I'm sure, would love her, too.>> > > > > I'm sure this is so, Megan...talking about our favorite Joni moments of > the > > year, one of mine would surely be the story of Emil, the boy in the > > wheelchair, that got to meet Joni at the Mendel, and she knelt down and > > spoke to him and he said some something to the effect of "We even have one > > of your records", or something like that...anyway, I cried when I read it > > and it was one of the most touching things I read all year and further > > proof that Joni is indeed worth the pedestal we put her on... > > > > And I was delighted this week to hear my own 14-year old singing "I could > > drink a case of you, and I would still be on my feet, I would still be on > > my feet". Hopefully he wasn't talking about King Cobra! :~) > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Bobby Lewis, "Tossin' & Turnin" > > > > Hi Bob , > It does my heart good to hear about your son, & restores my faith that > Joni's music will continue to be passed down to future generations. I never > heard the story about the boy @ The Mendel, but God bless him, and the > goddess,too, for her understanding& compassionate heart. > BTW, I agree with everyone that we should ask Jim to pass the Night > Before Christmas onto Joni--I think she'd love it & would probably get more > than a chuckle or two out of it! To me, it's an instant JMDL classic. > Still LOL, > Megan :~D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 06:50:07 -0600 From: Kate Subject: emil adds neil to his list - some jc Bob: > story of Emil, the boy in the > wheelchair, that got to meet Joni at the Mendel After reading your post, Bob, I thought I should report in and let you know that Emil still talks about that meeting with Joni ("do you think I'll ever get to talk to her again, Mom?"), has her Van Goghish poster on his bedroom wall, and was listening to her Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm cd in his room yesterday while I listened to Turbulent Indigo out here in the livingroom. Between the two of us, Joni is revered in this house. He has added Neil Young to his list for Santa this year. I have 2 of his cds, Emil has one, and has requested more. And wonders "if I'll get to meet Neil Young someday like I met Joni." I believe Neil has two children with c.p. and am curious what their condition is, if he's raised them at home or not. Anyone know? Also, you might be interested to know that Emil is not stuck in that wheelchair. We just use it for long distances and large crowds. He has cerebral palsy, but he is one of the lucky ones: he walks with elbow crutches and is quite independent, dressing and eating and doing everything for himself (almost) and going to school in a regular classroom. He has a walker he uses outside in the winter because the sidewalks are slippery. But he is a happy and delightful child (six months til he turns 13, and the hormones are kicking in already -- arggghhhh! and he's only 10 lbs lighter than I am!). I've been out shopping and everywhere we go I hear versions of Joni's "River." I guess the djs and the folks in the record stores think it's the perfect theme for the season. I'll never forget Joni's solicitude toward Emil when they met. I don't think that anything he was saying was all that interesting to her, but she gave him her full attention in spite of all the people around, waiting for her to move on. It was a kind and considerate thing to do, and I respect and appreciate her even more than I did before, for doing it. The compassionate squeeze she gave my arm as she walked away was a sign of a considerate and empathetic person, not a diva or an arrogant "star." But then, what else would one expect from a down-home gal? You can take the girl out of Saskatchewan, but you'll never get Saskatchewan out of the girl. Kate - -- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ * ~~~~~ /// * / * \ * \\\ ~~~~~ * ~~ There is not one big cosmic meaning for all, there is only the meaning we each give to our life, an individual meaning, an individual plot, like an individual novel, a book for each person. -Anais Nin ~~~ * ~~~~ /// * / * \ * \\\ ~~~~ * ~~~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:21:40 -0600 From: "kerry" Subject: Joni references >>"An important part of my leaving-Bob daydream was the place I would live in without him - an uncluttered white space full of nothing but me. And perhaps a coffee table. And a bowl of perfect green apples. Joni Mitchell on the stereo. A white rug.">> Your Joni reference reminded me of a book I read several years ago about getting through a break up. The author suggested writing a good-bye letter to your ex and the example they gave was a woman saying something like, "good-bye to your dislike of Joni Mitchell." It's rough when your musical tastes don't mesh! Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 06:53:35 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: Holiday Greetings -- favorite tunes Merry Christmas everyone! This is my last day on the computer until after New Year. Harpists are busy this time of year, so I've have no time to breathe, or add much to the JMDL. (Did I just hear a sigh of relief, Colin?) Favorite Christmas songs... The Christmas Song, Nat King Cole River, Joni Mitchell Gabriel's Message, Sting Santa Claus Is Coming to Town, Frank Sinatra and Cyndi Lauper Winter Wonderland, by just about anyone Almost made it to the top five... Feliz Navidad, Jose Feliciano Least Favorite Christmas song and absolutely the worst song ever composed in human history... Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time, Paul McCartney. YUCK YUCK YUCK YUCK! Nice try, but you really didn't pull it off as well as you could have, Toots, Christmas song... Silent Night, Stevie Nicks Please don't make another Christmas record ever because I can't stand when your nasally, fingernails-on-a-chalkboard voice gets all that airplay in the same month... Gloria Estefan Best Christmas song, even though the writer allowed his crushing childhood trauma from discovering there is no Santa Claus to color his perception of the Christmas message... Father Christmas, Greg Lake Best Christmas song by non-human characters... Chipmunk song Best Christmas instrumentals... "Linus and Lucy" and "Christmas," composed by Vince Gueraldi for the Charlie Brown Christmas special Have a Merry Christmas and a Harpy New Year! Harper Lou P.S. What would a post from Harper Lou be without some kind of spiel.... I hope you all are using an "X" to write Christmas because of weak typing skills and not to make a political statement. It's so sad to see certain political forces insisting that Christian beliefs are offensive and that we need to remove all signs of our faith from public view in the name of "tolerance" and "diversity." Especially considering that all core Christian teachings emphasize tolerance of others and appreciation that we are all different. Some Christians might be too zealous, and some even make major mistakes, because we're just people. Who doesn't make mistakes? What group of people in history has not included a few real jerks? These days, local governments refuse to allow public nativity scenes, public schools have renamed the "Christmas holiday" to "winter holiday," and some crazy people are now fighting to remove Christmas trees from public display because it represents Christianity. (How stupid, the tree is a non-Christian symbol to begin with -- we just think they're pretty so we like to put them places!) I would hope that the politically correct hypocrites who are fighting to remove any symbol that could be potentially "offensive" to non-Christians realize one thing: freedom of speech and freedom of expression apply to our celebration and belief in Christmas as much as they apply to your belief that our belief is offensive. If you are truly fighting to avoid offending humans, don't X us out, because, duh, Christians are humans, too. Christ's message was to "love one another," even when we don't agree with one another. True Christians, even those who are stringently opposed to certain behaviors, are going to practice that love. When we celebrate Christmas, we celebrate our love for all other people -- so if you're offended by Christian symbols, you're offended by symbols of love. We don't care that you are Buddhist, Islam, Wiccan, atheist or what. We don't put little Darwin feet on your Mogen Davids and Pentagrams and Seven-Pointed Stars. We don't call you narrow minded because you aren't open minded enough to accept that we have a right to choose a narrower walkway. Our public displays of Christmas aren't there to offend you, and you can walk right past them. Likewise, if you think some Christian ideas are wrong, you are free to walk away. We will still love you no matter what. Start there, and work your way back to reality! Merry Christmas! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:21:01 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Top JMDL moments of 2000 Anne wrote: << having lunch with Ashara and crying into my salad when BSN started playing >> Then Pat wrote: << i must have missed this during the year. is this telling me that you went out to lunch with ashara and bsn came on the radio...unplanned...? if so, that's really wild. really wild. really really cosmic wild. patrick >> Actually, not all that cosmic, Pat. One of the several times I went down to visit Anne while she was recuperating from her operation and chemotherapy, while we were having lunch together, Anne put on BSN which had just come out. My eyes were quite misty as well, but not half the blubbering idiot that I was in CT when we were listening to her sing BSN live from the second row! Thank goodness for my dear friend Patrick (Leader) who held me while I soaked his shirt with tears. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:10:07 EST From: Mauski4648@aol.com Subject: Emily, Marian and Indigo Have a great time, a wonderful holiday and peace to all of you, especially to Emily in London, Marian in Wien and Indigo in Wuppertal. Thank you for sharing all your thought and ideas. Love from Karin in Germany. P.S.Hope to meet you at our little Joni- gettogether in June 2001. Who else wants to take part??????? (Pentacost days.. in Germany, wouldn't that be nice????????????) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:47:31 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: Re: emil adds neil to his list - some jc << I thought I should report in and let you know that Emil still talks about that meeting with Joni>> Thanks for taking the time to do it, Kate...it was such a sweet, heartwarming moment! << I don't think that anything he was saying was all that interesting to her,>> You'd be surprised...she has an unbelievable retention, and when she pays attention to something, she really seems to soak it in, not just feign interest...an amazing person in every regard! Bob NP: Tom Harrell, "The Christmas Song" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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As time passed I became less enchanted, feeling that she, in common with so many artists, had fallen back on making money by making the noises people expected of her." Read the rest: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/731222s.cfm 1980: Newsweek publishes a picture of Joni as "Art Nouveau" in today's issue, saying "Remember that early album cover? Joni Mitchell was all dewy-eyed innocence. But the singer-songwriter, now 37, has cast aside that imageat least in a new movie where she dresses up as a radio-toting' swaggering black pimp." See the picture: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/801222n.cfm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:08:58 -0800 From: "Michael Cooper" Subject: Beatles Trivia Is the answer "She's Leaving Home"? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:23:00 -0700 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - December 23 1976: Hejira is certified Gold by the RIAA 1998: The Bloomington Independent reviews Taming the Tiger and quotes Joni as saying "I have a painter's ego and I get a thrill from juxtaposing one color against the other. It's the same with music, I think I paint with it. I arrange sounds and tones as if I am painting. My harmonies and words are selected in my own interest, just how I would select a color." http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981223bi.cfm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:28:00 -0700 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - December 24 1974: Joni joins Linda Ronstadt, Carly Simon and James Taylor singing Christmas carols and "songs of joy and peace" on the streets of Los Angeles. 1977: Sounds magazine reviews DJRD today, saying "I'll never know how this lady can devote so much of her time to baring her inner soul and yet still remain mysterious; perhaps in this enigma lies the real appeal of Joni Mitchell as an artist." http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/771224s.cfm 1996: Today, the New York Post is one of the first to break the story of Joni's search for her daughter, saying "...so far her search is fruitless. 'I've been blocked so far by the people who have the (adoption) papers'" http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/961224e.cfm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:16:00 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Beatles Trivia In a message dated Fri, 22 Dec 2000 1:10:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Michael Cooper" writes: << Is the answer "She's Leaving Home"? >> YES, that's IT!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:57:29 -0500 From: Gary Zack Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell LIVE in Austria Thank you for your post, Ashara. I've met some wonderful people on this list and perhaps they wonder why I never (or seldom) post publicly...it's a shame when you fear to write a word thinking that your post will be met by a slam. Thanks for sticking up for those of us who just don't feel we can say anything without a demeaning and sarcastic retort. (And yes, I know that is MY problem, but I'm getting over it quick!) Thanks again, Ashara!! With hugs, Gary (protea man) AsharaJM@aol.com wrote: > > Paul wrote: > > << In order for your medication to work, you really need to take it EVERY > day. > Skipping it for days at a time like this obviously sends you off the even > keel. >> > > I think it is just so sad Paul, that you feel you have to put people down > like this, especially newcomers to this group. I found the things Manhard > said very interesting, and goes right along with many of the things I myself > have written in my newsletter during the past 7 years. Tell you what, Paul: > Why don't you pick on someone "your own size" like me, who has been around > for years. I've just about had it with this mean-spiritedness. It's no wonder > I am losing interest in reading my Joni mail when this is the kind of thing > is constantly in my face. > > Disappointedly, > Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:37:15 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell LIVE in Austria hey you protea man, i'm glad to see you're still with us here in joni town. and kelly...it's so nice to see you out in the open like we did this week. come back soon, please! patrick np. radiohead - ok computer - ok, ok, so kid a sucked...but this one is cool. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:45:55 -0000 From: "Garret" Subject: Re: Merry Xmas! >, I can only imagine what Stevie >Wonder will do with Woodstock, You know what Bob, now that you mention this. i've heard it on the internet. it was about ten months ago perhaps longer, and somewhere (sorry i cant be more specific) i came upon a "real player" thing with Stevie wonder singing Woodstock live at some benefit show or something. i didnt pay too much attention because i didnt really like it. i think it was a site i linked to through rollingstone.com or mtv.com or something. it was some companies "timecapsule" of music i think. altough that may not be it at all, as i said i dont really remember. i wasn't overly impressed. i dont actually remember it, but i do remember saying to people that i really disliked it. i probably should have paid more attention:-) however, i thought it very very strange that HE should be singing THAT song. it just didnt seem appropriate. but then, it might if i were a Stevie WOnder fan GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:31:06 -0800 (PST) From: kate@katebennett.com Subject: A card for you kate@katebennett.com has sent you an Egreetings.com(r) flash animation! To view your card, simply click the following Web address any time over the next three weeks: http://www.egreetings.com/v/fhUvX7hs37 Need some help? See below! ********************************* Perhaps your E-mail program doesn't recognize the Web address as an active link. No problem! You can copy and paste the Web address into your Web browser. Here are instructions on how to copy and paste: a. With your mouse, highlight the *entire* Web address above b. Select the EDIT menu and choose COPY c. Go to your Web browser and *click inside* the window where you normally type a Web address to visit d. Select the EDIT menu and choose PASTE e. 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Now hit ENTER on your keyboard to take you to the Web address It's that easy! :-) If you would like further assistance, we're happy to help - please send E-mail to solutions@egreetings.com - ---------------- E-greetings is a registered trademark and Egreetings is a trademark of Egreetings Network, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:29:11 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: good friends ''i have to come and see you maybe once or twice...an hour!!!!!!'' that's how i feel about you, folks -- even those i have referred to dr. kevorkian. i could never find the eloquence to express what this community means to me, so for a change i won't be witty and decadent [he said humbly...]. you know, we are a quite an anthropological phenomenon. for the last three years, we have been pioneering what in the future may be known as one of the first global communities. there are other discussion lists -- and i should know. however, none will ever hold a candle to ours: even our ugly moments are great. i have chosen you for my family. i hope we'll be relatives for a very long time, preferably forever: let nobody put asunder this solid love! but if i were to leave you tomorrow, i would still tell the world that once i had a family and that i loved them. and because i am a very religious old sinner, i will pray god [in my head named baby jesus, in your head...well, that's your business] that we may live and learn, live and teach, live and fulfill our missions. god bless wally, les irving, and jim -- angels one and all. god bless every one of you, beautiful, clever, excellent people. good friends, you and me! wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:49:56 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: good friends Dear Wally, Thank you so much for your kind thoughts and wishes during this holiday season. I really appreciate you. Also, let me be one of the first to wish you a very happy birthday too! Warmly Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 23:53:50 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Beatles Trivia - IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > > And I'll add my favorite Beatles trivia question: > Which is the only Beatles song on which none of the band members plays an > instrument? I think that was "Because" Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 01:27:48 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: good friends Wally, this is beautiful! It's so touching it brings tears to my eyes. Thank you. I, too, am feeling much appreciation these days for this wonderful worldwide community. I'm enriched in more ways than I can count by being a part of it. Thank you everyone. Peace and love and even some hugs :-), Debra Shea Wally Kairuz wrote: > i have chosen you for my family. i hope we'll be relatives for a very long > time, preferably forever: let nobody put asunder this solid love! but if i > were to leave you tomorrow, i would still tell the world that once i had a > family and that i loved them. > > and because i am a very religious old sinner, i will pray god [in my head > named baby jesus, in your head...well, that's your business] that we may > live and learn, live and teach, live and fulfill our missions. > > god bless wally, les irving, and jim -- angels one and all. > > god bless every one of you, beautiful, clever, excellent people. > > good friends, you and me! > > wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:24:51 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Atty. May's New Year's Eve Party! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I WANNA GEAUX!!!!! Paz (big boo hoo) on 12/21/00 3:11 PM, JRMCo1@aol.com at JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > Happy Chanukkah, Joyous Kwansa and Merry Christmas, One and All. (Ho, ho, > ho!) > > Atty. May asked me to get the word out to the JMDL that her Beachcomber > Restaurant and Bar, on Plum Island outside Boston, will be the site of a > festive party to ring in 2001! > > Even better, the evening's entertainment will be provided by our very own > Chuck E and his rockin' good times band! The same trio that blew that room > away during Jonifest in September. Woo Hoo! > > May will be serving up a delicious buffet starting at around 7:30, and Chuck > and the fellas will play from around 8:30 to 1:00 a.m. > > All this for a mere $20 per person. May would love to have as many JMDLers > as possible on hand, so come on down if you can. There may even be a few > slots available for performers to do Joni songs prior to the band going on, > just like at this year's Jonifest. > > Call Atty. May's Beachcomber at 978-462-9201 for reservations. May says that > the Walton Motel on Plum Island would be a good place to stay over, if you > wish. > > Hope to see many of you there. > > -Julius ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #473 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?