From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #467 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, December 17 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 467 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- letterman [evian ] Re: : Today in Joni History - December 16 ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Joni Mitchell LIVE in Austria ["Garret" ] Dumb de dumb dumb ["william" ] TIME for Joni! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Letterman tonight [Murphycopy@aol.com] 2000 Top 10 ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Re: Letterman tonight [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: Julia Fordham/Kyle Eastwood [jp ] Re: Letterman tonight [catman ] Mini joni-fest sjc? ["Russell Bowden" ] Court's in session... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Court's in session... [catman ] Re: Court's in session... [catman ] Re: Court's in session... [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Court's in session... [catman ] [none] ["Dave and Beth Fairall" ] SJMC, a sensitive subject/ more river ["BRIAN SYMES" ] Re: 2000 Top 10 [Jason Maloney ] Happy Birthday Catman!!! [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Court's in Session [susan+rick ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 01:58:32 -0600 From: evian Subject: letterman LOL, on Letterman tonight, his favorite Joni Mitchell album was "Blood and Peanut Butter" or vice versa. LOL, he cracks me up. TGIF, Evian np: Ten City -- "that's the way love is" (12" mix) anyone else remember this damn song?? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 03:55:03 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: : Today in Joni History - December 16 Les, Thanks for posting a link to the New York Times review of DJRD (Don Juan's Reckless Daughter) by John Rockwell. Mister Rockwell "gets it". Here's a excerpt from his last sentence, "... she has found a way to make serious musical art and propagate it through the often maligned "music business." Aside: If anyone missed this article, it's available at http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/771216nyt.cfm Lama, Self- appointed Chairman of JMDL's Cincinnati branch ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:57:37 +0700 From: "william" Subject: As molten gathers like bolts of ash Good to see you back Les from London and the cyber inkings eloquent. I'm almost there in Alness when you write. Hejira is an album for this time of year. Fuzzy Chants the Blues. Molten and ash? The neighbourhood volcano has decided to blow. As molten gathers like bolts of ash. Drats, I was hoping to get away from the place where the stars pay a light bill to the Michael from mountains for my sweet tumbleweed, where I need more quiet times. Alas, Bali will have to do. Wish me luck with an audition with a local band who want a foreigner. They want new blood in their music. They do an unplugged version of Wait in Vain that would knock your socks off . One of my faves. I'm all a-go-go at the prospect of Joni a la Willy. Hey if I don't scribe before the Yule, have a great one y'all. Yule have a it's-coming-on-Christmas good one he says convolutedly. NP ~ of all old chessssssnuts James Taylor Riding on a Railroad. Willy the Shake "Singing someone else's song" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:07:42 -0000 From: "Garret" Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell LIVE in Austria well, to be honest i really enjoyed Schlifni's post and thought it was a very well thought out voicing of ones opinion. fair play Schlifni....let's hear more from you GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:51:20 +0700 From: "william" Subject: Dumb de dumb dumb +ACI-Would that it were true, if ....+ACI- The dumbest language I've(Paul) read in a long time. Ho+ACE- Ho+ACE- Ho+ACE- Willy the Shake I met a friend of spirit ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:24:41 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: TIME for Joni! I went to JM.com and confirmed that it was indeed the 12/16/74 issue of Time that featured her on the cover. It was a drawing as opposed to a photo, but still is pretty cool! For anyone who wants to have a gander, it's in the bio section "Fametime"... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:51:16 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Letterman tonight In a message dated 12/16/00 12:11:09 AM, revrvl@pathwaynet.com writes: << Dave said, "Blood and peanut butter, my favorite Joni Mitchell album." It makes no sense - the humor is in the absurdity and the droll way Letterman drops in the non sequitur (spelling?)... but that is his second Joni reference in recent time and it certainly tells us that Dave has Joni on his mind; he must be a fan! >> Hi, Vince: I posted to the list a few weeks ago when Letterman said, "Liver in a blender, isn't that an old Joni Mitchell song?" But last night's "blood and peanut butter" reference to Joni was at least his THIRD recently. About a week or ten days ago, I had his show on while I was puttering around and I heard him say something else about a Joni song or album followed by audience laughter, but I didn't catch what he said. I thought someone else on the JMDL might have heard it, but it was never posted to the list. In any case, I think Letterman has been funnier than ever lately. And with regard to him having "Joni on his mind," if you caught Joni's last appearance on the show -- it's on the video tree tapes -- he seems to treat her with a kind of awe and reverence he rarely shows his guests, IMO. Take care, --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:49:22 -0500 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: 2000 Top 10 Here it goes: 1. Rickie Lee Jones - "It's Like This" 2. Cocteau Twins "Stars And Topsoil" (compilation) 3. XTC - "Wasp Star" 4. Joan Osbourne "Righteous Love" 5. Erykah Badu - "Mama's Gun" (Lovin' it!) 6. Kirsty Maccoll - "Tropical Brainstorm" 7. Lazy Dog - Deep House Music spun by Ben Watt & Jay Hannan 8. Steely Dan - "Two Against Nature" 9. Paul Simon - "You're The One" 10.Barbara Kessler - Self Titled - -Chris NP:"Wall Of Death" - Shawn Colvin & Lucy Kaplansky, Live In Philly, 1990. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:18:00 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Letterman tonight << But last night's "blood and peanut butter" reference to Joni was at least his THIRD recently. >> Do you think he's picking up on Joni's themes of duality here? Blood & Peanut Butter probably falls into the "Court & Spark" category as opposed to the "Shadows & Light" category...that is, they are not opposites, but rather 2 words that seemingly don't have any relationship normally but are brought together because of a specific circumstance. Hope that makes a little sense...*I* know what I mean, anyway! :~) Bob NP: May Chapin-Carpenter, "Come On, Come On" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 17:52:23 +0200 From: jp Subject: RE: Julia Fordham/Kyle Eastwood > stephen the nose-delicious, > do you remember twin peaks? julia fordham sang the theme. of course, she did > more than just that in her life but the twin peaks theme was very popular > and i thought it might jog your memory. > wallyK, np: laura nyro, walk the dog oh no - she certainly did not. that was julee cruise. ms. fordham is one of my favourites. good introduction would be "the collection" from 1998 on virgin. - --jussi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 18:57:32 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Letterman tonight SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > << But last night's "blood and > peanut butter" reference to Joni was at least his THIRD recently. >> > > Do you think he's picking up on Joni's themes of duality here? Blood & Peanut > Butter probably falls into the "Court & Spark" I have always assumed that c&s was so called because of the 'spark' there is in 'courting'. I didn't think of these words as being unrelated- at least not to me. like sex/food. cold/cosy. hot/fat.loud/scared.puppy/shit.alchohol/violence. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:04:11 -0800 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Mini joni-fest sjc? Gang, Due to an underwhelming response, the proposed mini-JONI-fest will NOT be happening in San Francisco next month. I do have access to a great facility, though, and future possible date suggestions are welcome. Perhaps the timing was a little off for this one, coming so closely after the holidays. Love, Russ np: Lookin' for a party, lookin' to raise Gee-zuss up from the dead. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:53:12 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Court's in session... << I have always assumed that c&s was so called because of the 'spark' there is in 'courting'. I didn't think of these words as being unrelated- at least not to me. >> True, Colin...I guess what I was trying to explain was that you while the words DO relate, especially in terms of the song, one wouldn't typically pair those words; they're not generally considered synonyms or antonyms, and certainly would not be closely associated like "shadows" & "light". Also both "court" & "spark" could have a HOST of definitions; they can both be nouns/verbs etc. Do you think that "court" and "spark" mean the same thing in terms of how Joni employs them in the song? Bob PS: I'm certainly glad she chose Court & Spark as the title as opposed to "Puppy & Shit" ! :~D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:17:48 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Court's in session... SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > << I have always assumed that c&s was so called because of the 'spark' there > is in > 'courting'. I didn't think of these words as being unrelated- at least not > to me. >> > > True, Colin...I guess what I was trying to explain was that you while the > words DO relate, especially in terms of the song, one wouldn't typically pair > those words; they're not generally considered synonyms or antonyms, and > certainly would not be closely associated like "shadows" & "light". yes=I get what you mean and of course you are right. Just that sometimes when I read things my mind just goes off on it's own! > > > Also both "court" & "spark" could have a HOST of definitions; they can both > be nouns/verbs etc. > > Do you think that "court" and "spark" mean the same thing in terms of how > Joni employs them in the song? I don't know. I'd have to listen to the song again. > > > Bob > > PS: I'm certainly glad she chose Court & Spark as the title as opposed to > "Puppy & Shit" ! :~D Oh, i don't know-repeat it several times to yourslef-it has a certain ring... have you ever noticed that when you repeat a word a few times it become silly sounding? Isn't it weird how we just make sounds, which we call words, and those sounds can engender deep feelings, both negative and positive? When you read a novel do the characters each have their own voice or is eveything in your own voice? has it ever occurred to you that people somewhere might be in a cinema and watching YOU on a screen? Your life? Or that all this is just a dream? That none of this is real as we would define that word? Or that we are just somone(something) elses thought? no I haven't been smoking..... - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:17:52 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Court's in session... SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > << I have always assumed that c&s was so called because of the 'spark' there > is in > 'courting'. I didn't think of these words as being unrelated- at least not > to me. >> > > True, Colin...I guess what I was trying to explain was that you while the > words DO relate, especially in terms of the song, one wouldn't typically pair > those words; they're not generally considered synonyms or antonyms, and > certainly would not be closely associated like "shadows" & "light". yes=I get what you mean and of course you are right. Just that sometimes when I read things my mind just goes off on it's own! > > > Also both "court" & "spark" could have a HOST of definitions; they can both > be nouns/verbs etc. > > Do you think that "court" and "spark" mean the same thing in terms of how > Joni employs them in the song? I don't know. I'd have to listen to the song again. > > > Bob > > PS: I'm certainly glad she chose Court & Spark as the title as opposed to > "Puppy & Shit" ! :~D Oh, i don't know-repeat it several times to yourslef-it has a certain ring... have you ever noticed that when you repeat a word a few times it become silly sounding? Isn't it weird how we just make sounds, which we call words, and those sounds can engender deep feelings, both negative and positive? When you read a novel do the characters each have their own voice or is eveything in your own voice? has it ever occurred to you that people somewhere might be in a cinema and watching YOU on a screen? Your life? Or that all this is just a dream? That none of this is real as we would define that word? Or that we are just somone(something) elses thought? no I haven't been smoking..... - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:23:50 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Court's in session... << PS: I'm certainly glad she chose Court & Spark as the title as opposed to "Puppy & Shit" ! :~D >> I'm just imagining it now!!! "Dancing up a river in a fit Looking for a woman To Puppy and Shit" LOL, I'm glad she chose "Court and Spark" too :~) Jimmy NW (on tv) B oing Bo ing Boi ng (that silly tennis shoe commercial) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:13:19 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Court's in session... > "Dancing up a river in a fit > Looking for a woman > To Puppy and Shit" LOL! Tried to sing it tune and the words don't fit. oh shit. > > > LOL, I'm glad she chose "Court and Spark" too :~) > > Jimmy > NW (on tv) B oing Bo ing Boi ng (that silly tennis shoe commercial) - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 16:48:20 -0600 From: "Dave and Beth Fairall" Subject: [none] Rev, For some reason I think Letterman was confusing Joni w/ Joan Baez with that joke, don't know why or what JB tune, maybe Diamonds and Rust, some reference comes to mind. Dave F. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:30:17 -0800 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: SJMC, a sensitive subject/ more river Well i did want to raise the level of intellectual input to JMDL but i forgot what a big rock does when thrown in to a still pond. Hit on the head,thats how i felt as my printer put out 14 pages of violence. Thanks Catman ,Mags for response Holly Cole does a good "RIVER" on a cd that L klien produced but i like her earlier (trio/Jazz) cd,s NP Lets eat home: Dave Frishberg im lucky to have heard Dave playing the keys at the fancy hotel piano bar Downtown. - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 14:13:46 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Joni Video Tree Thanks to Jerry I received the latest video tree yesterday and stayed up half the night to watch all 4 hours. As others here have raved, it is really fantastic. Thanks so much to Ashara, simon, Coyote Rick, Linda, Les, the branches and everyone else who contributed to this set. It is quite a treasure. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:21:17 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: 2000 Top 10 Christopher J. Treacy wrote: > > Here it goes: > 2. Cocteau Twins "Stars And Topsoil" (compilation) > 7. Lazy Dog - Deep House Music spun by Ben Watt & Jay Hannan I'm especially pleased to see these two albums make somebody's Top 10. Chris, how did you hear of the Lazy Dog CD? Have you been to the club? Are you an EBTG fan? I don't normally care for mix albums, but this one is rather special. Oh, and the Cocteau CD is simply sublime...every home should have one. I'd also highly recommend the David Sylvian retrospective-that-isn't-really-a-retrospective, Everything & Nothing. Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 21:49:21 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Happy Birthday Catman!!! Best Wishes for a Wonderful Birthday Colin Love, Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:41:46 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: Court's in Session > From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com > Do you think that "court" and "spark" mean the same thing in terms of how > Joni employs them in the song? I'm absolutely positive they do. Besides one of the dictionary definitions of spark which is "woo, court", in my mind I can hear Walter Brennan in "The Real McCoys" saying something like "Pepino is out sparkin' Miss Rosalinda." Ranger Rick ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #467 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?