From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #457 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, December 7 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 457 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: TLTISR, Tin Angel and BSN ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni to be featured on "American Masters" [LasaterJ@aol.com] Re: TLTISR, Tin Angel and BSN [Bob.Muller@fluor.com] youth rights once more! [Yael Harlap ] SJC - SPC (Some Joni, Some Political) ["Greer, Ron" ] Today in Joni History - December 6 [Today in Joni History ] Re: TLTISR, Tin Angel and BSN [susan+rick ] Re: Joni to be featured on "American Masters" [Alison E ] Joni & James Taylor - Close Your Eyes ["Mr. Eoin Kelly" ] Re: TLTISR, Tin Angel and BSN [Penny ] Got Chaka! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Got Chaka! ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni & James Taylor - Close Your Eyes [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JJL [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni to be featured on "American Masters" [Michael Paz ] Video Tree Kudos [Scott Price ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 01:06:21 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: TLTISR, Tin Angel and BSN Penny, What an amazing story! To think that one of our list may have stumbled across The Richard - wow! The evidence looks pretty good that he may be one and the same. It's fantastic that you have struck up a friendship with these two early Joni pals. Maybe we should all collectively write the next Joni biography ;-) Thanks for sharing, Kakki NP: Our own Marcel and Steve Mixon - Rainy Night House (oh MY - it's stunning!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 07:23:57 EST From: LasaterJ@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni to be featured on "American Masters" That's fantastic news! But isn't she a "Canadian Master?" Or does she have dual citizenship? The Florida contest has me in a very nit-picky mood. NP: The La's, "The La's" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:09:15 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: Re: TLTISR, Tin Angel and BSN <> Ain't it though! Hard to believe that Marcel was taken aback when I asked him if I could include these gems on Volume 12! Bob (yes, my dual address mode is currently on, until I can figure out a way through this firewall! :~D) NP: Ani, "Napoleon" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 10:04:44 -0500 From: Yael Harlap Subject: youth rights once more! Scott spoke of political apathy on the Janis Joplin list... >I doubt the person on the Janis list put any thought behind it whatsoever. I'm also on that list, and I find it >interesting, but not surprising, that not one person on the Janis list even responded to this, while here >there have been numerous posts. Most of the people on that list are very young. I think jmdl is great and I am happy to read the political content (even though some hostile attitudes get rather tiresome!)... but just a word out to say that on some Tori Amos lists that I am on the average age is probably 20 or a little higher and there is plenty of political conversation (this month: are embargoes moral, should convicted felons be denied the right to vote, chads chads much ado about chads, etc). There may be a lot of apathy on the Janis Joplin list but to assume it is *because* list members are young is to forget about the many many politically apathetic adults... And it is to minimalize the many contributions of young people to civic life. Perhaps we should discuss why youth don't turn out to vote in large numbers... I think it has something to do with lack of power... a culture in which disparaging young people is normative and mostly unquestioned... etc. More of my two cents, Yael, ally to young people ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 17:30:45 +0200 From: "Greer, Ron" Subject: SJC - SPC (Some Joni, Some Political) hi first the gross part - politics. we just had our local municipal (town council) elections here. everyone was really happy cause things went really smoothly - only 6 people murdered........ (and you thought your politicians are slime) now the music part. suitably inspired by all the raving about hejira ( i was gonna just use the initial, but then i realised youd probably all think im a junky) i went out & bought a copy. the only joni albums ive had up to now were s&l, byt (big yellow taxi - what appears to be a spanish reissue of lotc with dubious sound quality), c&s, blue, ttt, ti, & thotsl. of these, shadows & light was by far my favourite. not any more...... hejira is awesome - its been playing pretty much non stop since last thursday & just seems to get better all the time. i always loved "amelia" - this version is awesome i feel sorry for the other bassplayers on the album. hearing them back to back with jaco makes them sound so ordinary......... i think jaco would make virtually any other bassplayer sound flat - he makes sounds that bass players arent supposed to. actually, i suppose there are other bassplayers that play like him, i just havent heard them. larry carltons lead is inspired. any suggestions where to start if i want to check out his solo work. ive always heard him highly recomended, but somehow havent come across much of his work. perhaps the album should be referred to as jjl (joni, jaco & larry) seeing as "h" is gonna be somewhat misleading. ron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 00:42:00 -0700 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - December 6 1995: Joni receives the Billboard Century Award, broadcast live on Fox-TV from New York's Coliseum. From Wally's page: "Billboard magazine announced that on December 6th, Joni would be presented with their highest honor for creative achievement, the Century Award. Past winners of the Billboard Century Award include George Harrison, Buddy Guy, and Billy Joel. The award has been presented annually since 1992 "to an artist to acknowledge the uncommon excellence of a still-unfolding body of work." The 1995 Billboard Century Award was the first of many awards Joni would receive over the next two years." - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 08:40:28 -0800 From: susan+rick Subject: Re: TLTISR, Tin Angel and BSN Kakki wrote: > What an amazing story! To think that one of our list may have stumbled > across The Richard - wow! The evidence looks pretty good that he may be one > and the same. It's fantastic that you have struck up a friendship with these > two early Joni pals. Maybe we should all collectively write the next Joni > biography ;-) Sounds like a great story but for some reason I didn't get it. Would some lister mind forwarding Penny's story to me? Thanks Ranger Rick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 08:45:45 -0800 (PST) From: Alison E Subject: Re: Joni to be featured on "American Masters" hello everybody, thought i would relay this information from a marketing contact at WNET/thirteen, the producing station for american masters. this may be the only perk i will receive from working for pbs! alison e. in nyc "Hi Alison, The Joni Mitchell show is tentatively planned for the 2001-2002 season, probably as a pledge show, but it's way too soon to know anything about a broadcast date or screening event. We did some shooting a few months ago, but otherwise, production's on hold. Hope that helps! Peter" Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 09:13:45 -0800 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: sisotowbell Ranger Rick this just blows my mind you are the king undisputed of jonimindandbody! On the tv show Mad About You they did this kind of thing with their daughters name Mabel= Mothers Allways Bring Extra Love. Thanks - ----------------------- Free Email Service provided to you by Office.com, a service from Winstar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 17:33:45 -0000 From: "Mr. Eoin Kelly" Subject: Joni & James Taylor - Close Your Eyes Hello, I recently came across a live CD of Joni and James Taylor called "Close Your Eyes" in a second hand shop in London. There is absolutely no information on the cover however. Anybody out there know anything about it,or where or when it was recorded? Needless to say, it's beautiful. Thank you, Eoin e: kellyeoin@Hotmail.com _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:03:07 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com Subject: JJL <> I like "JJL", Ron...or BRE, for "Best Record Ever" ! ;~) If you dig Jaco here, you have to run don't walk to get DJRD...more great Jaco and Joni, although not much evidence of either on "Tenth World"! ;~) And I don't necessarily feel *sorry* for the other bassplayers on Hejira...the acoustic bass on "Blue Motel Room" is exquisite, I think. I know that Jaco didn't play the acoustic on this track, but did he play acoustic bass much? A question for the Jacophiles. I love the fadeout for Refuge Of The Roads...turn it up and hear just how low Jaco's bass can go! The only player I've ever heard who reminded me of Jaco was Morris Pert who played for Brand X. Bob NP: Whiskey In The Jar from a cheesy Celtic CD my sister bought me when she visited Dublin - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 16:13:29 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: sonicnet I wrongly attributed the fab sonicnet link. It is Lori Frye's link. Click on and listen to some great streaming music. Thanks, Lori. http://radio.sonicnet.com/mymusiclisten.asp?name=lrfye Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 15:21:40 -0800 (PST) From: Penny Subject: Re: TLTISR, Tin Angel and BSN Kakki wrote: >What an amazing story! To think that one of >our list may have stumbled across The Richard >- wow! The evidence looks pretty good that he >may be one and the same. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. It would have been a great plus if this little visit with Richard had happened before I ran into Joni in S'toon this summer. In jogging Joni's memory of Sid, I should have mentioned the Spikedrivers rather than only giving the physical description of Sid as a Jerry Garcia look-alike to ring her bell. (Geez, I just hated taking up her time, you know? ;-( ) Had I known more details of the Spikedrivers at the time, I could have possibly solved the mystery of Richard's identity for us and him too. (although he didn't seem to be at all haunted by not knowing.) I would have liked to have seen Joni's facial reaction when I gave her Richard's last name. Sigh.... >It's fantastic that you have struck up a >friendship with these two early Joni pals. I gotta say, I think one of the reasons Richard was as open as he was, was because of our give and take about our most recent Joni events, Toronto (him) and S'toon (me), within the first minute of our conversation. He appreciated and related to my relaying of how I very consciously steered clear of hounding, pestering, or trying to "catch" Joni in S'toon, when I probably could have made for myself plenty of real opportunity, and also just how deeply bothered I was to realize what Joni, the living, breathing person, is put through because of her icon status and the effect she has on people. He said, even he, a legitimate old friend of hers, had had his reservations in Toronto too, for all my same reasons, when weighing if he wanted to try to get his note backstage to Joni. So I think knowing, right from the get-go, that we shared a common ground dislike for anything that remotely resembles "star stalking or obsessive fans" (his words), was a real plus for our visit. ;-) >Maybe we should all collectively write the >next Joni biography ;-) Haha, well at least for now, don't expect to much contribution from "my sources". ;-) To get an idea of Sid's personality and manner, imagine if you will, what it would be like trying to have a good, free-flowing conversation with comedian Steven Wright when he's got on his stand-up persona. ;-D I know Sid's got some fascinating tidbits in him, not just about relaying early Joni stories, but he had mentioned to me years ago, dinking around on guitars with Dylan in NYC, but to drag it out of him would probably be a torturing experience FOR ME. LOL! He'd rather talk about himself, so I'd end up having to constantly re-direct his focus and be pushy and probing to get to the JC - and to be pushy and probing just ain't me. By far, Richard would make for the more enjoyable and enlightening JC conversations - I gathered that he had had a strong affection for her. So hopefully I'll get another chance to visit with Richard if he comes to see Sid again. ;-) However, Sid did say he would write up something and send it for me to share via e-mail, but knowing Sid for about ten years now, I'm not holding my breath. ;-) Oh btw, Richard has a WONDERFUL singing voice. When I was there, Richard and Sid were rehearsing to play for either an open mic or small gig Sid had arranged for that night. They performed for me one of Richard's tunes - - I thought lyrically it was kinda weak, but their guitar work together and Richard's singing were beautiful. >Thanks for sharing, You're welcome - it was my pleasure. ;-) Penny Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:20:34 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Got Chaka! Thanks to Bill P. in the UK, we'll soon be enjoying Chaka Khan's version of "Man From Mars"...Thanks for stepping up Bill! :~) Bob NP: Fleetwood Mac, "Gold Dust Woman" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 18:28:47 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Got Chaka! Bob wrote: > Thanks to Bill P. in the UK, we'll soon be enjoying Chaka >Khan's version of "Man From Mars"...Thanks for stepping up >Bill! :~) Lawdy me - another gem surfaces! Hooray for Bill! Thanks Bob for the latest installment - it is terrific. Robert Downey, Jr.'s "River" is tremendous. The man can sing and kind of reminds me of a cross between Jimmy Webb and Van Ronk ;-) I'm also very partial to Jane Monheit's "Twisted" and loved Bola Sete's "Both Sides Now". Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:49:11 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni & James Taylor - Close Your Eyes << Anybody out there know anything about it,or where or when it was recorded? >> Hi Eoin! This was a BBC broadcast of December 1970. Most likely it was recorded the end of October. It's a very common bootleg, and it's also a must have for your Joni collection. I'll be glad to share my copy with you for blanks & postage. That offer extends to anyone who would like a copy, by the way... Bob NP: Bobby Bland, "Driftin' Blues" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:00:31 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: JJL on 12/6/00 8:03 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com at Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > The only player I've ever heard who reminded me of Jaco was Morris Pert who > played for Brand X. > Jaco does wail. I think Klein does a great job (doing Jaco) as well as his own style. Also, I think Mark Egan is one of the best fretless players out there esp. his work with Elements (with Danny Gottleib) and Pat Metheny. Best, Paz NP-Hurricane-Dylan Live in N.O. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:03:55 -0800 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni to be featured on "American Masters" on 12/6/00 8:45 AM, Alison E at alisone4@yahoo.com wrote: > this may be the only > perk i will receive from working for pbs! > alison e. in nyc > > The Joni Mitchell show is tentatively planned for the > 2001-2002 season, > probably as a pledge show, but it's way too soon to > know anything about a > broadcast date or screening event. We did some > shooting a few months ago, > but otherwise, production's on hold. Allison- Great news! I am ready for some new Joni video. I tried to pitch my show on doing a Christmas in New Orleans show (thinking that Joni might get the Christmas album out this year), but I did not get alot of positive response. Hopefully it will be next year and I will have a shot a Joni show in New Orleans with the Philharmonic here and guest artists. Under the monitor dreaming, Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:07:22 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Got Chaka! << I'm also very partial to Jane Monheit's "Twisted" and loved Bola Sete's "Both Sides Now". >> They're both great...they just don't last long enough! :~( And meanwhile, we've got ANOTHER rarity! Prince's "A Case Of You"! Whoo Hooo! Big tip o' the covers cap to Ron for that one! :~) Bob NP: Fleetwood Mac, "Don't Stop" ( and a tip of the same hat to my bestest pal Jimmy for THIS one! ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:57:08 -0800 From: "BRIAN SYMES" Subject: Hejira/confessions Hejira is my all time most played album 1. On the front cover shes got that beautiful black beret,when i started school in Boston i wore Berets bought in Harvard Square every fall in tribute to my siquomb goddess. 2. I got hooked on a process of double exposing panx b&w film into slides and showing them a smoking parties. 3. she wrote the best lyrics on Coyote,Amelia,Hejira, song for sharon,sublime simplicity on Black Crow and Refuge of t he Roads. 4. Yes Jaco vibrations dance in counterpoint to her voice like Fred and Ginger on the dance floor. 5.And finally thru a miracle of old fashion work i got an Amelia 1-1-99 who's addicted to elmo videos. 6.Thats all from this side of the bowling ball. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 23:03:41 -0800 From: Scott Price Subject: Video Tree Kudos Thanks to Ashara, Simon, all the other contributors, and my branch, Brian, for the latest JMDL video tree. Some really great stuff there! The early Joni performances are amazing. She is strikingly beautiful and the audio has been well preserved. This is most precious. I had not seen her play the guitar like that before, sometimes forming barres with her left hand on top of the neck, instead of the more-conventional under the neck position. The "Much Music" segment is fantastic as well. Joni looks very relaxed in her bib overalls, and seems genuinely happy to be on stage. She was in fine voice that evening and it's always a treat to see and hear her play an acoustic guitar. I had seen photographs of many of the paintings which were exhibited at the Mendel but the video gives glimpes at nearly the entire collection. Thanks also to those involved for the program or catalog that goes with this tape...it's nice to be able to put real titles to these paintings, and to get to know some of the background information. Thank you once again to all who contributed to this project. Scott ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #457 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?