From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #443 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, November 23 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 443 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #619/grey or bald? [Chorando6@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #619/grey or bald? [catman ] Re: grey hair [catman ] Joni Mitchell Influence- Sam Shaber [AsharaJM@aol.com] Don't Panic!!! (VideoTree #2) [AsharaJM@aol.com] Today in Joni History - November 22 [Today in Joni History ] Memoir - Joni Mitchell ["Ross, Les" ] Joni at IKEA & Homemakers! [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: grey hair [Catherine McKay ] Re: Traveling with some existentialist . . . ["Patricia O'Connor" ] Joni Writes, was "Re: the existentialists in our lives" ["Jim L'Hommedieu] Re: Songs with Street Names [Nancy ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:45:54 EST From: Chorando6@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #619/grey or bald? Grey or bald....that's a laugh anyone here piebald? I would love to have gone just grey, or bald, but at the age of 11 just as I started getting interested in the same sex, I acquired an allergy to penicillin. Not just your passing hives, or raised red bits but the melanin in my nether regions (back and front) and on my head and a few spots on my back and legs dispersed leaving white patches of skin....well My cock is two toned and where my pubic line begins I have pure white hair, not only does the colour change but so does the texture, it looses its' curl. Straight white pubic hair on pale pale skin in stark contrast to the normal colour of the penile flesh which is generally darker than the rest of your body...not so pretty and added to that ... 25 years of sexual partners uttering 'what's that' or 'how weird' or oh my god, I've never seen that before'. So all you uniformely grey and balding people think on and look sharp...but I'm not bitter (not much) and yes bald is very sexy here in the UK. xxxClive ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:22:28 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #619/grey or bald? > ... 25 > years of sexual partners uttering 'what's that' or 'how weird' or oh my god, > I've never seen that before'. So all you uniformely grey and balding people > think on and look sharp...but I'm not bitter (not much) and yes bald is very > sexy here in the UK. > xxxClive Oh Clive. Perhaps I could have reacted a different way but this made me giggle. Just goes to show, we should be thankful for what we have-it could eb worse. This must have been hard to live with. bw colin - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:58:33 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: grey hair I can commiserate with all the males on the list fretting over grey hair/losing hair. (Although since mine started growing back after the chemo, I still don't have a single grey hair!) So, what's worse than a bad hair day? A NO hair day! (and yes, you do lose ALL your hair... I knew you were wondering, Wally :-) lots of love Anne who is now wig-less... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:15:12 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: grey hair > (and yes, you do lose ALL your hair... I knew you were > wondering, Wally :-) Well, thank you for clearing that little puzzle up! > > > lots of love > Anne > who is now wig-less... - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:00:16 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Joni Mitchell Influence- Sam Shaber From an e-mail from Sam Shaber, a wonderful singer/songwriter that we have mentioned on this list before. It seems Joni has influenced A LOT of many current singer/songwriter's! <> Also, she added: <> Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:29:03 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Don't Panic!!! (VideoTree #2) It seems there are some problems with sign-ups that never got through to me. Please rest assured that NO ONE will be missed on this tree that wants to participate! I am leaving for New York in 20 minutes, and I am not packed yet. I will take care of EVERYONE that was inadvertently missed as soon as I get back next week. Please be patient. Everyone will be included!! Happy Thanksgiving to all USers!! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:05:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - November 22 1976: The album "Hejira" is released. - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:59:13 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: Memoir - Joni Mitchell I have just seen reference to a paperback book coming out in December on the Amazon web page called Memoir - Joni Mitchell. Does anyone know anything about this. Sorry if this has been aired already and found to be some completely out of date....thing. Les (London) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:07:54 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Joni at IKEA & Homemakers! Having recently moved I was looking around IKEA for some stuff and ideas. I come upon a kitchen set-up in IKea. In the kitchen they had a desk with a bulletin board. Someone (my guess is an employee but maybe a crafty JMDLr should get the credit!!) glued a picture of, what looked like came from an ad of TTT, Joni and her Kitty on the bulletin board!!! I couldn't believe what my eyes were seeing. If that wasn't enough.........this same week I was checking out Homemakers (a big furniture store here) and Joni's voice came over the speakers singing Cary! Joni.............making the drudgery of shopping so much more tolerable!!! (ha!) WARNING.........NO JONI CONTENT BELOW.....ONLY FUN & FREE STUFF FOR YOU JMDLr FREEBIE-AHOLICS and money savers. Check this stuff out!!! 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Limit 1 call per day, per call origination phone number, and 2 calls per upc. Win books, pens, trading cards, or snacks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:28:00 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: grey hair - --- Anne Sandstrom wrote: > I can commiserate with all the males on the list > fretting over grey > hair/losing hair. (Although since mine started > growing back after the chemo, > I still don't have a single grey hair!) My Mum lost all her hair due to chemo when she was in her 70s. Strangely enough, when it DID start growing back, some of it came in red (which was her original and natural colour, but she had gone totally grey years before.) Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:20:15 -0500 From: "Patricia O'Connor" Subject: Re: Traveling with some existentialist . . . From: Catherine Turley > As a long time dweller in the Hejira camp, I had quite the shock of > recognition when I came across this passage from the notebooks of Albert > Camus (published in 1963): > > "What gives great value to travel is fear. It is the fact that, at a > certain moment, when we are so far from our own country , , , we are > seized by a vague fear, and the instinctive desire to go back to the > protection of old habits. This is the most obvious benefit of travel. > At that moment we are feverish but also porous, so that the slightest > touch makes us quiver to the depths of our being . . . " > Wow! Some of my very favorite Joni lines are actually Camus! Would you complete the quoted passage, please Catherine? Patricia O'Connor p.a.oconnor@att.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:34:13 -0800 From: Catherine Turley Subject: Re: the existentialists in our lives sjc I'm definitely a Camus fan! I don't really gravitate towards the existentialists like I used to, but I find I can keep going back to Camus, in particular, and be very rewarded. The passage quoted below is from Camus *Notebooks , 1935-1942* pp. 13-14 (Knopf, 1963). I actually didn't find it there, but rather quoted in Eric J. Leed's *The Mind of the Traveler: From Gilgamesh to Global Tourism* (Basic Books, 1991, for those of you interested in the bibliographic). The full passage, as quoted by Leed in the opening epigraph of his book, is: "What gives value to travel is fear. It is the fact that, at a certain moment,, when we are so far from our own country . . . we are seized by a vague fear, and the instinctive desire to go back to the protection of old habits. This is the most obvious benefit of travel. At that moment, we are feverish but also porous, so that the slightest touch makes us quiver to the depths of our being . . . This is why we should not say that we travel for pleasure. There is no pleasure in traveling, and I look upon it as an occasion for spiritual testing. . . . Pleasure takes us away from ourselves in the same way that distraction, as in Pascal's use of the word, takes us away from God. Travel, which is like a greater and graver science, brings us back to ourselves." I was a little shocked on first reading it, because the "porous with travel fever/ trembling in my bones" lines are so identified with Joni for me, but on a second look, I have to admire how she has made more personal and poetic the things she "borrowed." Knowing this also gives me even greater respect for her creative process--we all know she made the cross country car trip and that is the ultimate source of the album's concept, yet she borrows the title from Mohammed's experience, takes some imagery from Camus, melds it with her own experiences and poetics and sensibility and makes it something indelibly her own. I love that she had that car trip experience, then related it to Camus (or vise versa). It occurs to me that one of the things I love most about Hejira is that it is personal and heartfelt, but cerebral at the same time. That balance of heart and mind, for me, at least, is certainly one key to Joni's genius. Well, I'm over the river and through the woods -- Happy Thanksgiving to you all (even if your country isn't currently celebrating it :-) Catherine T., newly in Seattle Wally Kairuz wrote: > who else out there is a camus fan? i am one! my favorite quotation is a > camus line: > ''happiness, too, is inevitable''. > i was raised on camus, sartre and beauvoire. > another one of my favorites, this time by sartre to beauvoire just before he > died: [roughly translated] > ''my death will not separate us nor will yours unite us.'' > wallyK > > Wow! Some of my very favorite Joni lines are actually Camus! > Would you complete the quoted passage, please Catherine? > > Patricia O'Connor > p.a.oconnor@att.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:34:06 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: CAMUS AND JONI!!!! sjc well, bust my buttons!!!!! i've just found out that joni and albert camus share a birthday: november 7!!!! isn't that ever so trippy? what next? Armageddon? wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 00:29:16 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni Writes, was "Re: the existentialists in our lives" Mmmmmmmm, yes! (Why am I channelling Tom Wolfe's "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" tonight?) Joni talks about writing in the second tape of the new JMDL video. Parts of the Much Music video I've heard before (from a Simon-powered tape tree? I apologize for not researching it) but some of the Much Music segment was new to me and really, really cool. What a great Thanksgiving gift- thanks Ms. Stansfield and Simon. Catherine Turley said, [[we all know she made the cross country car trip and that is the ultimate source of the album's concept, yet she borrows the title from Mohammed's experience, takes some imagery from Camus, melds it with her own experiences and poetics and sensibility and makes it something indelibly her own. ]] All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu (Lama) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 01:12:49 +0000 From: Nancy Subject: Re: Songs with Street Names Found while looking through my son's BMG catalog: South Hampton Avenue (Blessed Union of Souls) Streets of Philadelphia (Springsteen) Dreaming St. (M People) Street of Dreams (Best of Rainbow; Ritchie Blackmore) - --Nancy/IA ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #443 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?