From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #437 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, November 17 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 437 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "Lesson in survival" [catman ] Joni cover [Joseph Palis ] Joni cover [Joseph Palis ] Remembering Kenny [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: what do you like to read ["Blair Fraipont" ] Live Joni Recordings [emilygoldsmith@another.com] Re: Joni cover [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Janet ....(Was Joni, Xmas CD & Tribute) ["Garret" ] Covers of Covers ["James L. Leonard" ] Re: Covers of Covers ["James L. Leonard" ] Re: Covers of Covers [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] books ["Kate Bennett" ] re Bob's Hit or Miss, Hand Count ["Steve" ] apologies [catman ] Judy Collins(LJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] terrible [catman ] Re: Covers of Covers [Joseph Palis ] Re: Covers of Covers [Joseph Palis ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:24:58 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: "Lesson in survival" > I felt honored that he believed in our friendship enough to be himself > with me and release his pent-up feelings. > Cassy this was a lovely mail and to me you wrote exactly what friendship is about. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:03:27 +0800 (PHT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Joni cover Hi Bob! Just reconnected to the List. My question to you: do you already have the version of CENTERPIECE with Van Morrison, Annie Ross and Georgie Fame? I listened to Van Morrison's HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN GOING ON album with Georgie Fame and there was CENTERPIECE with the three of them singing at the same time. If you don't have it, tell me, so I can send this song along with the Paganini Ensemble's version of GOODBYE PORKPIE HAT. Joseph (hopes that whoever sits in the White House gets to really help Asia by not meddling!) np: Liz Callaway "Knowing When To Leave" <--- a most appropriate song for powerful people who can't leave Asia and the rest of the "Third World" countries alone. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:57:25 +0800 (PHT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Joni cover Hi Bob! Just reconnected to the List. My question to you: do you already have the version of CENTERPIECE with Van Morrison, Annie Ross and Georgie Fame? I listened to Van Morrison's HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN GOING ON album with Georgie Fame and there was CENTERPIECE with the three of them singing at the same time. If you don't have it, tell me, so I can send this song along with the Paganini Ensemble's version of GOODBYE PORKPIE HAT. Joseph (hopes that whoever sits in the White House gets to really help Asia by not meddling!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:18:41 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Remembering Kenny Thank you to Jody who telephoned to let me know this sad and shocking news. With moving to a new house and Mark's dad here I haven't been reading my Joni digests at all for about a month now. Jody also directed me to Les's site with the moving memorial to Kenny and I've been reading everyone's comforting thoughts and memories. Kenny and I emailed in the beginning mostly about freebies. I was saving UPCs and labels off food to get stuff for my family. Kenny actually asked me to send him a list of what I was looking for and he went through his kitchen & bathroom cabinets pulling these things off and sending them to me. Just the thought of this man going around his home pulling off UPCs and labels endeared him to me. I don't believe too many guys would do this......and willingly. So, thanks to him I got some 'free' coupons and shared them with him too........like Blockbuster and free meat coupons that Kenny liked because he used those in cooking. He had sent me an unbelievable spaghetti sauce recipe .........I'd never seen anything so long.......the real stuff.........not bottled Prego with some garlic and sugar added. His spaghetti sauce was an all day affair in the kitchen! Those rare times I'd delurk to add my thoughts to the list Kenny would always acknowledge what I had to say....either to the list or privately.........even coming to my rescue when I was being verbally attacked. When I finally did meet Kenny in person at Ashara's last year (1999 JoniFest) I wasn't surprised to find he was as warm a person in the flesh as in his emails and I spent quite some time talking with him. It was there at Ashara's that he shared that he had recently had a heart attack and so had lost weight eating alot of chicken and was working on a healthier lifestyle at the same time dealing with some major stressful events going on in his life and around him. I was really impressed by his willpower to diet the way he did. That's why losing Kenny is so shocking. He was actively working on his health and he was young.........he had a whole other half of his life ahead of him. Whenever I hear Michael Paz's version of Song for Sharon I think of Kenny. I remember we were sitting together at the bar at Atty May's surrounded by our JMDL family and Michael started playing this beautiful music and singing the words in his deep voice. When he had finished playing Kenny and I looked at each other with wet eyes, both moved. It was so beautiful! We talked alot at Atty Mays (sometimes shouting when the music got really loud) ......and Kenny kept apologizing for talking so much....... though I kept reassuring him there were other places I could be sitting if I wanted to! I was happy to finally talk with him one on one.... and like old friends we had alot of catching up to do......there was alot to talk about................everything from Joni and our families to our chocolate obsession and our teeth! I'm going to miss Kenny alot. My belated sympathy and prayers go out to all his family and friends. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:25:02 EST From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Re: what do you like to read Well, since i am a theater production major, alot of what i like to read revolves around that. I am reading right now Brecht on Theater Which should be a fascinating read. I also have enjoyed some Charles Dickens, The Portrait of Dorian Gray by Wilde, and the plays of Anton Checkhov blair _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:30:21 +0000 (GMT+00:00) From: emilygoldsmith@another.com Subject: Live Joni Recordings - --32960147.974392221071.JavaMail.nobody@www-a22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I don't know if anyone can help me, I'm new to this, but I've recently been trying to get my hands on some older live Joni recordings. I'm particularly after something recorded with James Taylor or Jackson Browne, but really anything on DVD, video or CD. Someone recommended I try the BBC shop for the old radio recordings, however they told me they were no longer availible. I've also managed to track down the video from the Isle of Whight Festival. Has any one got any ideas? I'm based in London, but internet sites would be good. Thanks Emily Your email address says a lot about you. Express yourself @ another.com http://another.com/jump.jsp?destDesc=another.com/login.jsp?sig=393 - --32960147.974392221071.JavaMail.nobody@www-a22-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:59:09 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni cover <> I'm glad of that...welcome back! <> I HAVE heard it...I haven't included this one as Centerpiece isn't really a Joni song, but it's a great version so let's throw it in the mix! And I'm really excited about the 'Porkpie' track! Thanks again for your invaluable contributions to the project! Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Spare Parts", Hartford, CT 5/78 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:55:00 -0000 From: "Garret" Subject: Re: Janet ....(Was Joni, Xmas CD & Tribute) We dont have VH1 in irealnd and our mtv always plays the same music again and again. though i must admit that Trevor on the Lick really likes Janet too. i too prefer Janet over madonna. i dont know why really. i love almost every janet song i've ever heard, excpet The Knowledge from Rhythm Nation and some b-side on the everytime single. but with the few madonna albums i have i've found quite a few madonna clunkers. but then again, Janet cant really top Like A Prayer or this used to be my playground ( a song that makes me cry....how come i didnt think of that last week while that thread was still going). i loved velvet rope too. i though thte reviews were too harsh. nutty professor two?? this has passed right over my head! i heard about it at some point, didnt realise it was already out. and i'm always in the cinema!! lordy, i feel like an ostrich now!! Youre right jason, Control is good. what about contro teh remixes? good, but some of the vcersions get a little overblown. GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:58:32 -0500 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Covers of Covers I just saw that Joseph had written the following to Bob: "Just reconnected to the List. My question to you: do you already have the version of CENTERPIECE with Van Morrison, Annie Ross and Georgie Fame? I listened to Van Morrison's HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN GOING ON album with Georgie Fame and there was CENTERPIECE with the three of them singing at the same time. If you don't have it, tell me, so I can send this song along with the Paganini Ensemble's version of GOODBYE PORKPIE HAT." I'm a *diehard* Van fan, but think that including his version of "Centerpiece," as much fun as it is - or any of a great number of other versions of these two songs - would be taking the "Covers" concept one step too far. Joni based her own covers on Lambert, Hendricks and Ross' version of "Centerpiece," and Charles Mingus' 1959 version of "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat." Both of those are already included in Bob's "Covers" series. Just an opinion ... :) "Boston Jim" NP: "Wharf Rat," the Dead at Nassau Coliseum, 1990 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:06:52 -0500 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: Covers of Covers > Joni based her own covers on Lambert, Hendricks and Ross' version of "Centerpiece," and Charles Mingus' 1959 version of "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat." Both of those are already included in Bob's "Covers" series. > After I sent this, something occured to me ... if any other versions exist of GPPH using Joni's lyrics, they would certainly be "Covers" material. (Is that the case with the Paganini Ensemble?) "Boston Jim" NP: "Wharf Rat," the Dead at Nassau Coliseum, 1990 (still) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:41:27 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers of Covers <> That's a good question...my assumption is that it DOES have the vocal, like the great Annika Fehling version. In that case, it would be a SUPER addition. I agree with what you say and I don't want to start collecting a bunch of Centerpieces and Mingus instrumental versions, but it's sort of a gray area. By the same token, I'm not interested in bringing in the original "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" because to me it's Frankie Lymon & the Teenager's song. However, I wouldn't mind having the Buddy Holly version of "You're So Square", I think that'd be cool! As long as we keep communication open about it, there shouldn't be any problems. I can't wait to tell y'all about #12... Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Saving All My Love For You" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:13:48 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: books Has anyone read "The Divine Secrets of the Ya Ya Sisterhood"? I loved this book- the writing was so good that I feel like it spoiled me. I have not been able to find anything since to hold my attention since reading that book. I heard that her other one was not as good. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:49:15 -0000 From: "Steve" Subject: re Bob's Hit or Miss, Hand Count Paul I wrote <<<< I think this is a great idea and could be great fun. We could have an Hits & Misses kind of thing, where all JMDLers could vote for the covers they'd like to be included in the "Best of". But to be fair, Bob would have to count the votes by hand...>>>>>>>>> Don't think that's too good an idea Paul, maybe it's time now to try a head count. ;~) Steve......the impossible dreamer NP Emmylou .....|I don't wanna talk about it now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:38:15 +0000 From: catman Subject: apologies Sorry that joke was not meant to go to the list. - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:11:39 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Judy Collins(LJC) Went to see Judy tonight in Atlanta on a cold, rainy night. Small gathering of people. It was set to start around 6 which is in the middle of horrendous traffic but by the end there were a few dozen people. She sort of talked and told stories and sang snippet of songs and got everybody to sing along on Danny Boy and Amazing Grace. Very informal, no mikes, no guitar or piano. Picked up her new live album which is excellent. Great version of "Both Sides Now" on it. She mentioned Joni a couple of times and talking about music she keeps up with, mentioned she's a big Celine Dion fan. Really good back up band on the cd. It's called "Live at the Wolf Trap" which is an outdoor ampitheatre in Virginia which she has performed at 21 times, this being the 21st. Victor NP: Judy Collins She Moves Through the Fair ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:26:39 +0000 From: catman Subject: terrible A blonde went into a world wide message centre to send a message to her >>mother >>overseas. When the man told her it would cost $300 she exclaimed, "I don't >>have >>any money, but I'd do ANYTHING to get a message to my mother". >> >>The man arched an eyebrow (as you would expect). "Anything?" he asked. >> >>"Yes, yes, anything" the blonde promised. >> >>"Well then, just follow me" said the man as he walked towards the next >>room. >> >>The blonde did as she was told and followed the man. "Come in and close >>the >>door" the man said. She did. He then said "Now get on your knees", she >>did. "Now >>take down my zipper", She did. "Now go ahead...take it out", he said. She >>reached in and grabbed it with both hands. The man closed his eyes and >>whispered, "Well...go ahead". >> >>The blonde slowly brought her mouth closer to it and while holding it >>close to >>her lips, tentatively said, "Hello, mum, can you hear me?" - -- bw colin colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk http://www.geocities.com/tantra_apso/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:02:52 +0800 (PHT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Covers of Covers I agree with James. If the songs Joni sang will be included in the Covers Project of Bob, then we might as well include other jazz singers' version of STORMY WEATHER, I WISH I WERE IN LOVE AGAIN, etc. and other standards from her BSN album. Joseph (guilty for sending Marlena Shaw's version of `twisted' to Bob) On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, James L. Leonard wrote: > I just saw that Joseph had written the following to Bob: > > "Just reconnected to the List. My question to you: do you already have the > version of CENTERPIECE with Van Morrison, Annie Ross and Georgie Fame? I > listened to Van Morrison's HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN GOING ON album with > Georgie Fame and there was CENTERPIECE with the three of them singing at > the same time. If you don't have it, tell me, so I can send this song along > with the Paganini Ensemble's version of GOODBYE PORKPIE HAT." > > I'm a *diehard* Van fan, but think that including his version of > "Centerpiece," as much fun as it is - or any of a great number of other > versions of these two songs - would be taking the "Covers" concept one step > too far. Joni based her own covers on Lambert, Hendricks and Ross' version > of "Centerpiece," and Charles Mingus' 1959 version of "Goodbye Pork Pie > Hat." Both of those are already included in Bob's "Covers" series. > > Just an opinion ... :) > > "Boston Jim" > > NP: "Wharf Rat," the Dead at Nassau Coliseum, 1990 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:59:16 +0800 (PHT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Covers of Covers Not the same with the Paganini Ensemble. They did GPPH instrumental (cello, violin, viola) and its to a tribute to Mingus more than Joni. Joseph np: Swing Out Sister "Waiting Game" On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, James L. Leonard wrote: > > > Joni based her own covers on Lambert, Hendricks and Ross' version of > "Centerpiece," and Charles Mingus' 1959 version of "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat." > Both of those are already included in Bob's "Covers" series. > > > After I sent this, something occured to me ... if any other versions exist > of GPPH using Joni's lyrics, they would certainly be "Covers" material. (Is > that the case with the Paganini Ensemble?) > > "Boston Jim" > > NP: "Wharf Rat," the Dead at Nassau Coliseum, 1990 (still) > > ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #437 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?