From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #427 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com VideoTree sign-up: http://www.jmdl.com/trading Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, November 8 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 427 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. Sign up for VideoTree #2 now: http://www.jmdl.com/trading ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- the sky forever rushing ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Joni Songs that make me cry ["karla subero" ] Tear jerkers and smile raisers [AzeemAK@aol.com] Joni artwork content [Loren Carter ] Re: Oh so sad songs [Kate & CJ ] Re: Oh so sad songs ["Mark or Travis" ] To Joni.. ["Russell Bowden" ] birthday question [GREYC1@aol.com] RE: To Joni.. ["Peg Eves" ] Re: TGIAO & Ages [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] An interesting coincidence about Joni's birthday and her appearance on Letterman four years ago [Mark Domyanci] Re: birthday question [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] today's birthdays - vljc [Murphycopy@aol.com] Today in MY Joni history [FMYFL@aol.com] green day covers byt [Murphycopy@aol.com] Re: 5 songs that invoke emotion vljc ["Susan" ] JM cover [jan gyn ] Great & Sad Songs ["Kate Bennett" ] [none] ["c Karma" ] Today in Joni History - November 7 [Today in Joni History ] RE: today's birthdays - vljc ["Wally Kairuz" ] HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONI!! [Susan McNamara ] Re: Great & Sad Songs ["Kakki" ] RE: Great & Sad Songs ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Today in MY Joni history ["Victor Johnson" ] joni's bday ["joe farrell" ] Re: Songs that invoke emotions (LJC) ["Victor Johnson" ] video tree question [jp ] maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Today in MY Joni history [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Birthday Wishes ["Linda Montelione" ] Happy Birthday from the UK [Fonimitchell@aol.com] Happy Birthday! [Penny ] Happy Birthday! ["Mark or Travis" ] Rickie on The Election... ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Re: Great & Sad Songs ["cassy" ] i'm proud to be american [db.ireland@usa.net] Re: i'm proud to be american [Relayer211@aol.com] Emotional Songs SJC ["Madell S" ] Re: i'm proud to be american ["cassy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:06:29 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: the sky forever rushing it is that bald-headed day in november before the first snowflakes sail, and our joni is having her 57th birthday. when i first heard joni, she was younger that i am now. time prevails. here we sit or lie or stand, her fate the imminence of winter, mine the pollen and the sudden showers. when i started studying, reading, thinking joni, kith and kin would always refer to her as ''your joni''. ''your joni is on TV''; ''your joni is draining your brain -- look at your grades!''; ''your joni is a whore, a slut, a screamer''. my mother's favorite anti-joni remark was ''your joni sings as if she were giving herself a douche.'' i was on my way to becoming a highly self-assured slut myself, and although i would never enjoy the prerogative of douches, i found it very appropriate that my gentle relations should have names they must call joni and me. i was a member of a writers' workshop once, maybe 25 years ago. last thursday, the woman that once led the workshop, a woman that must be 90 years old today, looked my number up and after 20 years of silence decided to call me at almost midnight. she just wanted to say that she had found an old tape of one of her lectures, this one a special case since it had been a conference she had given in washington d.c. in 1980. she had been invited to talk about buenos aires and its poets and most especially buenos aires poets that wrote about buenos aires. she went to washington carrying a selection of the works of only two poets: jorge luis borges and me. on the tape she played over the phone i could hear her younger voice say, ''a 19-year-old genius wrote this poem, blah, blah blah.'' she was talking about me, that 19-year-old genius, and also about me, the 19-year-old genius that never lived up to his promise. she played her tape over the phone while i paced up and down the kitchen, opening the refrigerator and thinking what i would have for dinner. then out of the blue, she shot the old familiar question: ''so how's your joni?'' and i said, ''she's fine, she's turning 57 this week.'' eventually, the lady got off my case, and i fixed dinner. wallyK ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:31:28 MST From: "karla subero" Subject: Re: Joni Songs that make me cry Little Green just to start off.... When I think about the young woman who had the GUTS to spill her guts about her 'little green'. 'call her green and the winters cannot fade her, call her green for the children who have made her/weary of lies you are sending home/ Little green, have a happy ending' My sentimental little heart just breaks. (but at least we know Joni did find her 'little green') Chinese Cafe/Unchained Melody 'Caught in the middle, Carol we're middle-classes, we're middle-aged, we were wild in the old days, birth of rock and roll days/ Uranium money is booming in the old hometown now, putting up sleek concrete tearing the old landmarks down, paving over brave little parks, ripping off Indian land again/Nothing lasts for long/ Christmas is sprakling out on Carol's lawn. This girl of my childhood days has kids nearly grown and gone. Grown so fast like the turn of a page' Song For Sharon 'A woman I knew just drowned herself, the well was deep and muddy. She was just shaking off futility or punishing somebody/It seems we all live so close to that line and so far from satisfaction' Refuge of the Roads 'I fell in with some drifters cast upon a beachtown. Winn-Dixie cold-cuts and highway hand-me-downs. And I would up fixing dinner for them and Boston Jim. I well up with affection thinking back down the raods to them' _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 02:42:13 MST From: "karla subero" Subject: I am a lonely painter... Ok, so maybe 'lonely' isnt quite right...but I am a painter! A painter who happens to attend the ALberta College of Art (& Design) which as all true Joni-philes know was the place Joni 'studied' for a year before painting with words (and enthralling us all) I've painted the words "I am a lonely painter I live in a box of paints" on my studio wall. Maybe they'll be somehow inspirational, I don't know. I must admit, I am lonely in one way: I have not found anyone else who likes Joni's stuff as much as I do in my present residence of education. But then, how many 20-25 year-olds are interested in truly great music? BSB ...more like BS... which incidentally, are Britney Spears' initials...I see a pattern here... I would probably never have known how truly excellent Joni is had I not been looking at the CBC the night they aired Joni's magical 'Painting With Words and Music'. That's when the spell was cast! I went to the library and checked out 'Hejira' and 'Dog Eat Dog'. The rest as they say was history. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:54:46 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Tear jerkers and smile raisers These are the ones that fuel the waterworks: Oh My My - Jane Siberry In My Dream - Jane Siberry Together Alone - Crowded House Always There - Christine Collister Tears Idle Tears - Caroline Trettine The Morning Fog - Kate Bush Just To Keep You Satisfied - Marvin Gaye Who Knows Where the Time Goes - Sandy Denny/Fairport Convention Hejira - Joni [I have been known to go dewy eyed listening to the album, wondering at its sheer poetic beauty] These ones raise my spirits and make me want to RAISE THE VOLUME: Snow In Central Park - Jackie Leven Lucky - Lewis Taylor Help Me - Joni Wall of Death - Richard & Linda Thompson Long Snake Moan - PJ Harvey Stay - David Bowie Well what a day - Joni Mitchell's birthday! (oh, and apparently there's some election going on somewhere) Azeem in London NP: Taming the Tiger ------------------------------ Date: 7 Nov 00 08:58:29 EST From: Loren Carter Subject: Joni artwork content All, A while back I ordered the Voices art exhibit cataloge and poster from the Mendel museum where Joni had just exhibited her work. Well, the cataloge came, but the poster did not, so I sent another e-mail up there asking "what's up with that?". Well, a person named Lana answered back to write that the poster was shipped separately, and was in the works, and apologized for the entire situation. I answered back that since this was a Christmas present, there was no urgency to the situation, I just wanted to know, and since my wife and I are Joni-philes, if there were any residual Joni materials at the museum, I'd be interested in their purchase, to which she replied.... Quote I'm sure she will love the poster and catalogue. We have only heard good about both, so it will be a great Christmas gift. We don't, however, have any other items available. If you are interested though, Joni does sell prints of her artwork retailing for around $250 Canadian. Let me know and I can forward the pertinant info to her manager for him to contact you directly to make arrangements. Thank you again and all the best :o) Lana Unquote The sentence where she could place me in contact with Joni's manager to purchase prints of her artwork really perked my ears up. I think I'll reach out to Lana to see what happens. After all, my wife does have a birthday coming up. If anyone wants Ms. Lana's address at the Mendel, pleae let me know, and I'll send it along. Sharingly, Loren NP...sounds of my tapping of keyboard keys ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:30:29 -0500 From: Kate & CJ Subject: Re: Oh so sad songs I've lurked so long, but had to chime - this song is in the massive goosebumps category for me. Every time I hear it...even though I know he's about to sing it! > She said, "Tell me are you a Christian, child?" > I said, "Ma'm, _I_ _AM_ _tonight_." ' Speaking of goosebumps - NY Metro people and visitors - GO SEE LILY TOMLIN on Broadway!!! Just saw her Sunday in Princeton. Another goosebump experience. Thats all folks...post on! CJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 06:47:45 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Oh so sad songs > Speaking of goosebumps - NY Metro people and visitors - GO SEE > LILY TOMLIN on Broadway!!! Just saw her Sunday in Princeton. > Another goosebump experience. > Thats all folks...post on! > CJ > Yes, but is it soup or art? Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 07:19:06 PST From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: To Joni.. Dear Joni Mitchell, Hope you are having the most bestest birthday ever. Thanks for the joy. Love, Russ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:00:43 EST From: GREYC1@aol.com Subject: birthday question I was always under the impression that Joni's birthday was November 11. I always thought the line in Don Juan's Reckless Daughter referred to that date - - "Those two bald-headed days in November". Anyone?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:32:33 -0500 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: To Joni.. I love that birthday message to Joni, Russ. A great idea. Peg > ----- > Russ > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:03:20 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: TGIAO & Ages <> And if Robert's Rules of order call for a Second, I'll second that motion... Thanks to all those who resisted the urge to post political! And in a similar vein...I'll state my age, which is 43, which is probably a pretty popular age in this group. The only reason I hesitated is because... IT SIMPLY DOESN'T MATTER! I love this group because we're united around something that does - the truth and beauty, the painting with words & music of the greatest composer of our lifetimes, Joni Mitchell. It matters not that we're young & old, black, white, or other, straight or gay (or other, I suppose), male or female, whatever... I'm proud & blessed to be a part of it. Happy birthday to you Joni, and happy day to Bill & Myrtle too! Bob NP: U2, "Out of Control" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:05:16 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: An interesting coincidence about Joni's birthday and her appearance on Letterman four years ago Hey out there, Isn't this interesting? Four years ago Joni performed on Letterman, which was also an election day, and now four years later it is her birthday and another elction day. Put that in your pipe and smoke it! :-/*~~~ NP-The Slip, 6/7/96 - Farmgirl - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:12:59 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: birthday question <> That's a good question...I always assumed that since she was referring to the time prior to when the snow fell, she was referring to the "bald-headed" mountains before they were covered with snow... Bob NP: U2, "Another Time, Another Place" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:31:30 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: today's birthdays - vljc Who shares Joni's birthday? From http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001106/us/history_153.html Today's Birthdays: Evangelist Billy Graham is 82. Opera singer Dame Joan Sutherland is 74. Singer Mary Travers is 63. Actor Barry Newman is 62. Singer Johnny Rivers is 58. Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell is 57. Singer Nick Gilder is 49. Actor Christopher Knight (``The Brady Bunch'') is 43. Actor Christopher Daniel Barnes is 28. Actors Jeremy and Jason London are 28. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:51:05 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Today in MY Joni history Two years ago today was the first time I saw Joni in concert. It was in Atlanta and was one of the highlights of my life. She was better than I could have imagined, and it was even more special since it was her birthday. I also met my first JMDLer (Hi Pearl!!!). Since my group had to fly up from Fort Myers, we were late in getting to Einstine's for the pre-concert get together. I did get to meet Pearl, Marsha, and I think I briefly met Paul I. while at the concert. I know Mr. Muller was there, since I saw restroom signs that read : MEN WOMEN and one sign that had the word SLUTS on it :~) What other JMDLer's were at that concert? Just wanted to relive that wonderful evening! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:04:13 EST From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: green day covers byt Green Day performed "Big Yellow Taxi" at a rally in San Francisco on Sunday. The rally was in support of musicians who have been displaced by music venues that have closed due to rising rents, which allegedly has been caused by the encroachment of tech companies. For the whole story, go to: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/so/20001107/en/green_day_headline_rally_for_san_f rancisco_music_scene_1.html --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 12:34:26 -0600 From: "Susan" Subject: Re: 5 songs that invoke emotion vljc Kakki wrote: > The only two Joni songs that immediately mainlined straight into my heart > and made me cry were her new versions of Case of You and Both Sides Now. > >> I'll Follow The Sun - The Beatles >> Prisoner in Disguise - Linda Ronstadt >> Galveston - Jimmy Webb newer version >> Friends - Elton John >> Ribbon In The Sky - Stevie Wonder (oh big time) >> Well so far Kakki your selections are batting nearly 1000. Galveston may be the only one I would not cry over, but I'm just not that familiar with it. Just cried the other day over "I'll Follow The Sun." I am not sure I can limit my list to just 5, because although I am a big mouth - I am also the biggest crybaby! So on any given day - any song may apply! Really I think it's just like favorite songs different days, moods, phases etc. can change those choices. I would like to add that a happy songs make me cry as well, noting Kakki's choice of "Friends." For me, "Night in the City" fills me up with joy to the point of tears. Other songs that quickly come to mind as pure tearjerkers are; Imagine, Your Song, A Case of You (any version), Cold Blue Steel, Circle Game (it seems so simple but it is so sweet & profound) and I know I will think of at least 10 more this week! Enjoying this thread through the tears! Peace Susan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:29:56 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: JM cover From 'Mr. Showbiz': (snip) >Seeking to make one of Hollywood's most drastic comebacks, formerly >imprisoned actor Robert Downey Jr. is determined to make his star shine >brighter than it did during his 1980s climb to fame. > >The brown-eyed thespian was released from jail in August and immediately >accepted an offer to play a recurring role as Calista Flockhart's love >interest on Fox's Ally McBeal. Now Downey is singing the blues - >figuratively speaking - on an Ally-spawned holiday album, A Very Ally >Christmas, due in stores Tuesday. > >According to Variety, the actor covers Joni Mitchell's anthem "River" and >duets with Ally songbird Vonda Shepard on "White Christmas." We're hoping >that the former cocaine abuser sings the latter tune with at least a >teensy-weensy hint of irony, if ya get our (snow-free) drift. > >"He's such a good actor and it translates musically as well," Shepard >recently told Reuters. "I think his passion and his pain and his longing >come out through his voice." (snip) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:54:39 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Great & Sad Songs I SO agree with you on Cole Porter and just THINKING about that M McD singing that songs practically brings me to tears. Brenda said, "Cole Porter is one of the greatest writers. Ever. and "I Can Let Go Now" - Michael McDonald - There's so much sadness in his voice and in his songs. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 20:14:44 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: [none] Happy Birthday, Joan. CC _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 00:46:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - November 7 1943: Joni is born in Fort MacLeod, Canada 1982: The New York Times publishes a review of Wild Things Run Fast, calling it "the most exhilaratingly high spirited album Miss Mitchell has ever made. For in addition to the edgy, syncopated folk-jazz singing that became her vocal trademark in the mid-70's, the album features several vibrant rock-and-roll performances that communicate a rare joy in being alive." Read the full article at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/821107nyt.cfm 1994: Today's issue of Newsday gets in the Turbulent Indigo promotion act and publishes a talk with Joni. Here's Joni take on Los Angeles: "Driving in traffic is difficult, extreme. Your fellow civilians are hostile. The shopping center is full of Russians who, like, try to beat you if you don't watch your bill; they're all like black-market immigrants or something. The restaurants that I eat in are close enough to Brentwood, but there's an influx of, like, you know, sickly tourists wanting to know where the woman shops and how to copy her. You're glad to get through the day without a fire or a mudslide or a drive-by shooting. You jump in traffic when a car backfires. Lovely place to live. Full of inspiration." Read the rest at: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/941107n.cfm 1995: Joni plays a surprise show at Greenwich's Village Fez Club in New York, in front of 200 fans, including Chrissie Hynde, Carly Simon, Natalie Merchant and Marc Cohn. The Addicted to Noise website reported: "Carly Simon, glaring at the rather tipsy Hynde, finally got fed up and suggested that Hynde sit down, and if you'll excuse the expression, "shut up." That's all it took. According to eye witnesses, Hynde leaped up, grabbed Simon around the neck, and shoved her to the ground, where she began to pummel her--not once but twice." For more info on the rather unique evening: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/951109atn.cfm 1996: Joni appearance on the CBS This Morning Show is taped today and broadcast the next day. 1998: Joni performs in Atlanta. Setlist, Jimdler reviews, and birthday cake here: http://www.jmdl.com/performances/docs/981107.cfm 1998: The College Park performance is reviewed by the Washington Post, saying "Superbly backed by a quartet including trumpeter Chris Botti and pedal steel guitarist Greg Leisz, Mitchell cast her songs in shimmering arrangements built around her characteristic open tunings in different keys. " Read it here: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981107wp.cfm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:43:36 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: today's birthdays - vljc welsh soprano dame gwyneth jones turns 64 today. when she turned 60, she sang salome in buenos aires. i gave her a big chunk of amber [i can't remember why --maybe it was her birthstone or maybe because ambar is supposed to protect against envy and throat ailments]. the stone was in a very nice box, wrapped up in fancy paper, ribbon and all. dame gwyneth, who was wearing an emerald necklace that had belonged to la malibran, a 19th century opera diva, looked at the thing and said, ''i hope you haven't brought me chocolates young man. - -----Mensaje original----- De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Murphycopy@aol.com Enviado el: Martes, 07 de Noviembre de 2000 02:32 p.m. Para: joni@smoe.org Asunto: today's birthdays - vljc Who shares Joni's birthday? From http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001106/us/history_153.html Today's Birthdays: Evangelist Billy Graham is 82. Opera singer Dame Joan Sutherland is 74. Singer Mary Travers is 63. Actor Barry Newman is 62. Singer Johnny Rivers is 58. Singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell is 57. Singer Nick Gilder is 49. Actor Christopher Knight (``The Brady Bunch'') is 43. Actor Christopher Daniel Barnes is 28. Actors Jeremy and Jason London are 28. --Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:01:16 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONI!! Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday dear Joni Happy Birthday to you and many many more... ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:53:07 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Great & Sad Songs Kate wrote: > I SO agree with you on Cole Porter and just THINKING >about that M McD singing that songs practically brings me >to tears. > Brenda said, "Cole Porter is one of the greatest writers. >Ever. and "I Can Let Go Now" - Michael McDonald - There's >so much sadness in his voice and in > his songs. Oh yes, Michael McDonald - I bought all his albums, Doobie or not, in the 70s and 80s. Ahhhh - his music also made me feel jubilant more often than not, too. I thought of another song that is probably obscure but always got me all weepy and sniffling - "Brighter Days" by Kenny Loggins. I used to play that one over and over and also played it on my guitar. I'd sit there singing and wallowing in it. I guess it was one of those "comfort in melancholy" songs for me. The lyrics are simple, but the music is beautiful, and the way Kenny sings it just devastates me. What a song. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:24:02 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Great & Sad Songs Oh, speaking of wallowing, you made me think of a song I used to love to wallow in both listening to and then learning to play over & over. "Rainbow Sleeves" (sung by Rickie Lee Jones though written by Tom Waits I think). Its a sort of hopeful meloncholy song. Paraphrased here from memory so forgive me if its not exact: "and the moon can not make love to you but I believe that your heart will give you wings I'm told to keep you from ever growing old and a heart that has been broken will be stronger when it mends don't let your blues keep you from singing cause darling you only have broken wings you just hang on to my rainbow, hang on to my rainbow you just hang on to my rainbow sleeves..." ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Kakki [mailto:KakkiB@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 12:53 PM To: Kate Bennett; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Great & Sad Songs Kate wrote: > I SO agree with you on Cole Porter and just THINKING >about that M McD singing that songs practically brings me >to tears. > Brenda said, "Cole Porter is one of the greatest writers. >Ever. and "I Can Let Go Now" - Michael McDonald - There's >so much sadness in his voice and in > his songs. Oh yes, Michael McDonald - I bought all his albums, Doobie or not, in the 70s and 80s. Ahhhh - his music also made me feel jubilant more often than not, too. I thought of another song that is probably obscure but always got me all weepy and sniffling - "Brighter Days" by Kenny Loggins. I used to play that one over and over and also played it on my guitar. I'd sit there singing and wallowing in it. I guess it was one of those "comfort in melancholy" songs for me. The lyrics are simple, but the music is beautiful, and the way Kenny sings it just devastates me. What a song. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:49:43 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Today in MY Joni history > Two years ago today was the first time I saw Joni in concert. It was in > Atlanta and was one of the highlights of my life. She was better than I > could have imagined, and it was even more special since it was her birthday. > > I also met my first JMDLer (Hi Pearl!!!). Since my group had to fly up from > Fort Myers, we were late in getting to Einstine's for the pre-concert get > together. I did get to meet Pearl, Marsha, and I think I briefly met Paul I. > while at the concert. I know Mr. Muller was there, since I saw restroom signs > that read : MEN WOMEN and one sign that had the word SLUTS on it :~) > What other JMDLer's were at that concert? I was there Jimmy. Though I didn't come from as far away as Ft.Meyers, it was also the first time I had ever seen Joni in concert. I arrived late(for whatever reason...I can't remember, probably trying to find a place to park) and missed the first couple of songs but as soon as I walked in and heard her singing, I felt incredibly calm. We had 5th row seats in the center of the floor. As we walked to our seats, some lady actually asked my friend Connie who I was. I suppose because I was carrying a bouqet of flowers and a couple of other gifts I looked like someone important. Anyway, the whole thing kind of seemed like a dream. The only other time I've felt the same way was when I was sitting a couple of feet in front of James Taylor as he sang "Sweet Baby James" at the Fox Theatre. About half of the way through the concert, I saw several people bring bouqets of flowers up to the stage, handing them to security, who in turn, placed them at the front of the stage. At some point, I got up and handed over a bouqet of roses, a big TY stuffed tiger with blue and green stripes(an adorable little thing), and a Winnie the Pooh birthday card. At the end of the night, she went to the front of the stage and picked up a few of the bouqets (there must have been at least a dozen), and my tiger and card. Just knowing that I connected with her on some personal level filled me with an incredible feeling, a surge of inspiration. At the time of her show, I was still wrapped up in recording and producing my cd and I think that night really made a big difference, and helped me get through the whole process which drove me crazy at times( I can picture you tearing your hair out in New Orleans Michael, slaving away in the studio, and I have been thinking of you...hang in there). I put Joni's name in the credits because of that evening. At the time, I was not aware of the JMDL but several months later I did join and nothing has been the same since. :>) But seriously, the course of my life has definately been affected ever since I attended that concert and where it will go from here I can't wait to see. A happy f*&@ing birthday to you Joni! Victor NP: Joni Mitchell Hejira ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:57:38 -0000 From: "joe farrell" Subject: joni's bday Just want to say Happy Birthday Joni and thank you for all the incredible music. Hope you have a wonderful day. Love, Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:02:57 -0500 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Songs that invoke emotions (LJC) too many Joni songs to list but "Hejira" particularly invokes emotions Rush "2112" from 2112 Rush "Tears" from 2112 David Sylvian "Orpheus" from Secrets of the Beehive Grateful Dead "Box of Rain" Nick Drake "Fruit Tree" Nick Drake "Riverman" Stevie Wonder "You and I" Grateful Dead "Looks Like Rain" Victor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:26:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Lori R. Fye" Subject: HAPPY DAY, JONI! Just wanted to get this in before the digests close for the day ... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JONI! And thank you for everything your artistry has brought to my life (and you know, there may be more). Lori in DC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:10:12 +0200 From: jp Subject: video tree question hi, i have a question to the "video tree people": i am in europe but i'm able to play both the european PAL and the U.S. format. i would like to get the one with better quality. i am thinking that the PAL version is probably converted from the U.S. and there might be loss in quality. so is there a difference? - --jussi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:28:55 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: maybe I'll go to Amsterdam.maybe I'll go to Rome... I'm just wondering where I should move to if bush should win... anyway...HAPPY BIRTHDAY JONI!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:46:50 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Today in MY Joni history << What other JMDLer's were at that concert? >> Like you said, Jimmy, this SLUT was there, and what a day in MY Joni history! A group of us JMDL'ers met up with Joni back at the hotel lounge, hung out and chatted with her, had photos made (thanks again Pearl)...what a night. I'll never forget holding her hand during the photo and thinking about all the great work that hand had created! I also remember talking to her about "Both Sides Now" as she sang it that night, the only time she sang it on the tour. She said she was thinking of re-doing it with an orchestra as part of her next project which was going to be an album of standards. Pretty cool to look back on it now! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:56:15 -0500 From: "Linda Montelione" Subject: Birthday Wishes Hello all! I've been out of touch for a while but felt compelled to check in on this special day. Dearest Joni, On your 57th birthday -- Wishing you happiness, health and continued creativity, which we all so much appreciate! Love, Linda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 19:12:35 EST From: Fonimitchell@aol.com Subject: Happy Birthday from the UK Happy Birthday Joni. Thank you for years of great music and for inspiring the five of us in our band - a modest tribute to you. We play this Saturday and will dedicate the show to you. Much love, Foni Mitchell. England. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:17:03 -0800 (PST) From: Penny Subject: Happy Birthday! Joan, U da bomb! In my very best out of tune voice, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you...... Penny NP TV Gore just predicted winner of Florida's 25 EC votes! ;-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:50:39 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Happy Birthday! To the greatest singer/songwriter on the planet: Thank you for all the music. Thank you for all the inspiration. Thank you for remaining true to yourself. Thank you for expressing so many of my innermost thoughts & feelings in such a beautiful way. Thank you for caring enough to maintain such a high standard of excellence. Thank you for your courage & perseverance. Thank you for enriching my life. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JONI! With love, respect & admiration, Mark (Scott) in Seattle (Shoreline) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:24:01 -0500 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: Rickie on The Election... I'm not sending this to you for any other reason than I thought it was interesting. It's an article RLJ wrote about the 'state of the nation,' and I found it to be surprisingly interesting; when you get used to hearing people 'sing stories' we often forget that they may, in fact, not BE the stories they're singing, but merely projecting a stage persona. That said, I found the writing to be articulate and pointed. I'll be seeing the evidence of liver damage live on Dec. 6th. I am watching a bad movie on the vaginal network - TV is just as addictive as everything else. They had a VH! Behind The Music marathon this afternoon, and I caught 5 of them. Cheers! -Chris. (article is pasted in below). In 1996 the American People showed the Republican party, in an unprecedented act of self-determination, that no amount of propaganda could actually effectively dissuade them when the time came to elect a president. After four years of innuendo, outright persecution of 'potential' witnesses, intimidation and ridicule of a standing president, and outright contempt for the American people, the Republicans were put, quite firmly, in their place by a vote of outstanding faith in a president that the opposing party had all but eviscerated. Faith we did not give wholeheartedly, but gave nonetheless, because the Republicans had behaved badly, and had no one worthwhile of their own to offer, and because, when it came right down to it, things were, after all, a lot better than they were four years before. In fact, things were getting pretty damn good. The mood of the country was up. People were working. People could buy homes, and the poor were not as poor. Parks were being protected. Dignity was being served. So. The next four years saw special funding by private interest groups of persecutors (yes, not prosecutors) and the additional spending of millions and millions of dollars - dollars that could have created a few more school programs, could have fed many thousands of hungry American children, given medicine to babies, built some roads, funded a few research grants, improved the horrendous conditions of many S.S.I housing units (these are special cheap apartments for the handicapped and unwed mothers, elderly people and poor families, my brother lives in one), and maybe had enough left over to buy lunch for everybody in Olympia, Washington on Christmas and New Years and Thanksgiving for the entire four-year term - to continue this personal attack on this president who, for some reason, really pissed them off. They corrupted the general policy of daily papers, at least an unspoken policy, I thought, not to print pornography, by dangling the disgusting details of President Clinton's disgusting sexual behavior for all of them to have access to and then to print, and then for the country to read in its leisure, which, to its shame, it did. People laughed at the embarrassment it felt for him, and for themselves at having their own country come to this petty and destructive politic. Bad playground behavior, who of us would teach our children to point the finger and laugh? And yet, we were being encouraged to do just that. This is not Christian, this is not nice, this is not ethical, where in our social etiquette did we learn to kick 'em when he's down? But he would not go down. And after that first week, he was still standing, and the next month, and you know what, the next month, too. And when the people began to tire of the republican onslaught, the republicans threw more, here is someone new, here is an even more insipid allegation, and it would fly for a few weeks, and the Americans tossed it aside. They grew weary. Their love of Watching, from too many years behind a television set, came back on them with a vengeance. They realized they were being taken advantage of. That in the end, this guy had done a great job in the office. That all his sex was his business, that he hurt no one, that all his accusers were as guilty as him. And after all the money and slander, not one allegation stuck. NOT ONE. The rhetoric Bush tries to throw now, that Gore stands in the shadow of Clinton, it cannot fly either. Gore should stand proudly in the shadow of Clinton. His mealy-mouthed behavior of wanting to take credit but not wanting to take the heat is his worse trait. But the fact is, no matter what personality deficits these men have, the point of it is -- what are they going to do? There is no contest here. Bush is a bumbling, inarticulate, undereducated good-old boy. The NRA has stated that if Bush was elected, they (the NRA) will work out of his office. I want you to tell this everywhere you go. I want every mother or every grandmother who watches her child walk into the school with the slight sliver of fear that he may not walk out again, because the NRA will not support the ban of automatic weapons in America, to raise her voice loud this week. Bush talks about leaks.The old life style which he blows off now, is not to be taken so lightly. He dismisses his alcoholism and his criminal record as the folly of his youth. Would he excuse the "youth" of east LA and south Texas as well? Is the behavior of gang-bangers to be considered less seriously because they are youth? Would it be OK, then, if Al Gore smoked a little pot and got busted when he was 30, would the Governor of Texas forgive that? Is that your message, Mr. Bush? Rather liberal, I should think. Bush gets found out, and then he says, hey, I'm just like you, I make mistakes. A bit condescending? Well, I think his credibility is suspect. Is it as low as it should be? Who is running this propaganda, anyway? The entire Democratic tenure was besieged by leaks created by Republicans, yet they have the audacity to complain about "timely leaks"? Really! There is a growing misrepresentation of the meaning of capitalism in our country. The idea that every single person has the opportunity to make something of themselves is mutating into the single-celled aberration that every single person has the right -- even responsibility -- to be opportunistic, that money is the crown, and that what we say it is is what it is simply because we are rich and we say so. An educated oil man, Bush says we don't know all the facts about global warming...' in order to protect the interests of the companies destroying the planet right now as we sit in our little rooms in front of our little computers, in order to blow off doing something about it for another four years. The rest of the world is counting on our participation in a world agreement to stop pollution. Right now, if Bush is elected, American will not sign that agreement. The sun is seeping through a hole in the ozone above the arctic about the size of Greenland. For the first time in known history there are melting glaciers in the arctic, and in our own lifetimes we are watching whole eastern coastlines being washed away by an ever-rising sea, rising on both sides, because the ice is melting, because the planet is warming faster than anyone could have anticipated. It is easy to stop. But will the oil companies accept a fiscal loss rather than destroy much or all of the world we have known? Will they squeeze, until the last possible minute, every dime they can out of what's left of the environment? If Bush is elected you will see the European communities' resentment of America return in spades. Bush will wave the proverbial flag in a parade of rhetoric that will only exasperate torn and barely mended relations. Bush will give the great frontier of Alaska to oil, because these people have no love of land, of beauty, of animals. They see these things as child's-play, and they see money and profit as the game of adults, of boys. What do they care about trees, polar bears, music in schools, safe streets for those of us who don't drive around in limos everywhere, health care for people who don't have the money to buy groceries, let alone get a tooth fixed. And this, friends, is the truth. You could take them for a walk on the cliffs of Big Sur, and they would talk about it's potential as a development for oil or mining. They would not see the sea, or the horizon, or the great ancient trees. You could take them to a school and they would say, what programs will create the most money for us, not , what programs will enrich the lives of these children, because individuals matter. When individuals matter, the culture thrives, educated people mean nonviolent people. As long as they are undereducated, we can focus our money and efforts on programs that will see immediate fiscal returns. The republicans, you will remember, said children don't need to sing, they don't need to draw, and they don't need any lunch, either. Not on our dime. This is the Republican way. We are, after all, just a tribe who has gotten a little ahead of itself. I know we have not forgotten that our lives depend on our sustaining the planet we live on. The exchange of money is all well and good, but what good are these toys if our children are killers, our sky is deadly, and our men are waving their spears at - US? Because that is what their greed is doing. It is poised and aimed at the American people. So, though we are discouraged, we cannot turn away from this very crucial moment in history. If the republicans win, it means that their four years - -- no -- eight years of intimidation and mudslinging paid off. We can't let that happen. We have to fight for the truth of things. This is not a personality contest, who cares if Gore is boring. He is the only choice politically. Nader cannot win, and his presence is a blessing for these cynical boys from Texas. Do not let this good time make you forget how horrible it was when Reagan was president. Tell it, talk about it. This should be no contest. Don't let people who are voting on a whim, like "I like Bush because Gore is boring...", be the lucky ones whose voices are heard. The Republicans are counting on the more liberal and freethinking people being so disillusioned in the political process that they do not vote, or they waste their votes on people who could not win, and would not really be prepared for the office, anyway. That, of course, was their intention all along. They have nearly destroyed all trust in the democratic process. So, then, it's just a little while before the process will be eliminated, isn't it? RICKIE LEE JONES singer, mother, American ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:28:38 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: Great & Sad Songs For me, when talking about songs that bring a lump to my throat... I have to mention: Natalie Merchant's CD "Tiger Lily" (an awesome piece of work) and in particular two of the songs on it, "Beloved Wife" and "River" (about the shabby way the press treated River Phoenix's death). Eric Clapton's "Tears in Heaven" written allegedly for his dead son. Del Amitri's "Driving with the Brakes On" from the CD "Twisted"about a young man driving his girlfriend home from an abortion. This brings a catch to my throat just thinking about it. Elton John... "First Episode at Hienton," "Sixty Years On," "The Greatest Discovery" all from "Elton John" still one of my favorite releases by anyone, ever. And of course, Joni's new treatment of "Both Sides Now." I am stunned at how it continues to bring me to tears after so many spins. I will never forget the first time I heard it and the impact it had on my emotions... empathizing, being older now myself, with the perspective of the narrative. Still shy with my then-new-to-be husband I tried to hide my tears, wondering what the hell he was going to think of me being brought to such a sobbing state by "a song." Looking back over the last 9 months I can't believe how foolish that fear was having seen him at a concert of one of his favorite musicians with tears in HIS eyes, realizing now that he understood, perfectly, the rip-tides of music. There are more... but these came to mind immediately. Cassy NP: Elton John "The King Must Die" ------------------------------ Date: 7 Nov 00 21:19:23 MST From: db.ireland@usa.net Subject: i'm proud to be american WEll, today was the first time I exercised my american right to vote and it felt damn good! I'm not really into politics or anything but in the last few weeks I payed attention and I'm so glad I did because I was very confident in my decision. I'm so glad I've joined this group too because I'm learning about other people's favorites that are similar to mine...you guys are great! Peace as always....Danielle ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:30:27 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: i'm proud to be american well,whatever happens,at least Hillary won! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 04:33:51 GMT From: "Madell S" Subject: Emotional Songs SJC Songs that always stir up emotions in me for different reasons: Joni- Amelia, River & The Circle Game John Lennon- Imagine Simon & Garfunkel- Bookends Shawn Colvin- If I Were Brave Anne Lister- Icarus Mary Chapin Carpenter- Where Time Stands Still and John Doe #24(for all those interested, a book was published recently that gives an account of John's life. It's called "God Knows His Name: The True Story of John Doe No. 24". Written by David Bakke. Very interesting read and highly recommended) Indigo Girls- Love's Recovery Sarah McLachlan- Angel Natalie Merchant- Beloved Wife "Somewhere over the Rainbow" - As sung by Eva Cassidy - -Madeline, age 17 NP: MSNBC Election Coverage _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:25:16 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: i'm proud to be american Relayer211@aol.com Said: "well,whatever happens,at least Hillary won!" Be afraid... be very afraid... ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #427 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she?