From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #418 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, November 1 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 418 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Five Fave Guitarists ["Ramcey" ] Re: Back in 1974 (MD) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Five Fave Guitarists ["cassy" ] 5 fave guitarists ["Mike Hicks" ] fave guitars [BarBearUh ] Five Guitarists [Leslie Mixon ] five favorite guitarists [Anne Sandstrom ] Five Favorite guitarists ["Brenda J. Walker" ] Re: Five Fave Guitarists ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Five Fave Guitarists ["Mike Hicks" ] Re: Fave guitarists [Siresorrow@aol.com] Today in Joni History - October 31 [Today in Joni History ] Re: Five Favorite guitarists [Don Rowe ] Re: Five Fave Guitarists (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Five Fave Guitarists [Jerry Notaro ] Re: costumes for tonight [vjc] [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: Five Fave Guitarists [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Neil & Joni's (& Jimi's) Guitar playing [Howard ] BSN parody for election day [JoniMessages@aol.com] Elvis's favorite Joni albums [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Back in 1974 (MD) [Vince Lavieri ] Re: BSN parody for election day ["Patricia O'Connor" ] Re: Back in 1974 (MD) ["Hell" ] Re: 5 fave guitarists [Janet Hess ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:34:21 -0500 From: "Ramcey" Subject: Five Fave Guitarists 1) Richard Thompson 2) Stevie Ray Vaughn 3) Bruce Cockburn 4) Albert Collins 5) Tony Rice Ramcey tCH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:52:07 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Back in 1974 (MD) I always think of the movie Monterrey Pop with Janis Joplin doing Ball & Chain, and Otis Redding doing Try a Little Tenderness. And No Nukes with Bruce doing Rosalita. But the Ultimate for me was The Who doing Summertime Blues. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:01:28 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists In no particular order, Roy Buchanan Earl Klugh Billy Butler Larry Coryell Yngwie Malmsteen And there are so many more... Elmore James heads up the list of runners-up Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:41:47 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: 5 fave guitarists No order: 1. Joni Mitchell 2. Pat Metheny 3. Eric Johnson 4. William Ackerman 5. Jimi Hendrix Has changed since the 60's-80's. Steve Howe, Jimmy Page etc. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 08:27:25 -0500 From: BarBearUh Subject: fave guitars ani difranco joni adrian belew bruce cockburn daniel lanois hendrix clapton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:27:32 -0800 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Five Guitarists Here are my five top guitarists of the moment - in no particular order: Ry Cooder Richard Thompson Joni Mitchell Eric Clapton Jeff Pevar Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:18:59 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: five favorite guitarists 1. Pierre Bensusan 2. Michael Hedges 3. Ellen McIlwaine 4. Steve Howe 5. Tracy Moore (a great 12-string player from Seattle) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:44:21 -0800 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Five Favorite guitarists In no particular order: Charlie Christian Jimi Hendrix Robert Johnson Joni Mitchell Ernie Isley Brenda n.p. - CNN Headline News ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:41:08 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:34:45 +0800 (PHT) > From: Joseph Palis > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > Reply-to: Joseph Palis > > not really a guitar person, but those who knocked me silly with their > virtuosity includes: > > 1) alex de grassi > 2) michael hedges > 3) william ackerman > 4) sara hickman > 5) eric tingstad So where do you hear these artists? On public radio? Do you listen to the syndicated show on the air called "Echoes"? I hear some of these people every night. I'm a huge fan of Will Ackerman. I like Michael alot too. A shame we'll never hear anything from him again. I have an Eric Tingstad CD. Don't know Sara Hickman. Mike > > > joseph > (a big windham hill fan since the early 80s, and an even bigger fan of > fred simon!) > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:42:39 -0500 From: "Mike Hicks" Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > From: JRMCo1@aol.com > Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:37:04 EST > Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists > To: joni@smoe.org > Reply-to: JRMCo1@aol.com > Here's mine: > > Jimi Hendrix > Frank Marino > Stanley Jordan > Tuck Andress > Jerry Garcia > > -Julius > who gives an honorable mention to Fred Frith Is this the same Frank Marino that played with the Mahogany Rush group? Mike > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:59:14 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Fave guitarists joni - duh eric clapton - because he's a saint jennifer turner - she curls her lip when she bends with deep emotion richard thompson - he speaks two languages at the same time mark knopfler - laid back cool dude patrick np. meshell - faithful ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 00:16:00 -0600 From: Today in Joni History Subject: Today in Joni History - October 31 1970: Matthews Southern Comfort tops the UK chart with their version of "Woodstock". 1976: Dressed as Art Nouveau, the character who graces the cover of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - Joni hits the Halloween party scene! Check out a picture in this article: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/78crcs.cfm or here: http://www.jonimitchell.com/ArtNouveau76.html 1985: Joni appears on Good Morning America 1994: MacLean's updates Joni's life and quotes her as saying "While she expresses a deep fondness for Canada, Mitchell still bristles at how the country has treated her. "In the beginning, people here didn't recognize that I was good," she said during the MuchMusic special. "As soon as I crossed the border, they thought I was great." Read it here: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/941031m.cfm 1998: Two reviews of last night's performance are published: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981031os.cfm http://www.jmdl.com/articles/docs/981031oc.cfm - -------- Know a date or month specific Joni tidbit? Send it off to JoniFact@jmdl.com and we'll add it to the list. - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:51:57 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Five Favorite guitarists Got to split the category a bit ... no particular order. Rhythm: Richard Thompson Keith Richards Joni Mitchell Johnny Marr Walter Becker Lead: Phil Manzanera David Gilmour Mark Knopfler Lindsey Buckingham Richard Thompson Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:53:53 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists (md) Threads are weird. I started this one and I dont know quite how. But since it has mutated into the Five Fave Guitarists I MUST jump in. 1) Les Paul: Invented the modern electric Guitar technology. leo fender simply took it from Where Les paul started it.Given a lab to experiment in by Gibson Corporation he proceeded to do extraordinary research and development that led to the development of the electric guitar and pickup we know and love today. He was the first known player to experiment with controlled use of feedback and distortion. created an aluminum guitar to achieve the perfect solid body only to find that the stage lights heated up the instrument and started to warp the sound. made the hit "How High the Moon" by extending a microphone out to his kitchen where his wife Mary Ford actually recorded the vocal tracks. recently played live with jeff beck and keith richards who both were "awed" by his ability in spite of his age. 2) Charlie Christian: An electric guitar in the Benny Goodman Orhchestra? Out of the 40 guitar stars interviewed by Guitar player magazine a full 35 of them credited Christian's records (and trying to play along with his notes) with being among their most important musical influences. Charlie died at age 27 (I believe) of Tuberculosis. He actually invented the elctric guitar by taking the singers vocal mic and shoving it into the interior of his acoustic guitar. His riffs sound easy to the ear but trying to copy them reveals their artistry and genius. 3) Django Reinhardt: Lost two fingers off his playing hand in a fire. A Gypsy by familial background. Literally played with three fingers and as such developed unique chords that no one else could play. His endless variations served to show the rest of history what was possible with the instrument. Along with Stephane Grapelli bridged jazz and rock and about all other styles while playing in the earlier part of the century in paris. 4) Jeff Beck: Truly one of (if not) the most creative player(s) ever. The ONLY british Guitar player unawed by Jimi hendrix when hendrix exploded on the British scene. Invented a great deal of the library of fingering and licks copied by virtually all the other great players in rock history. Took sustain and hammering of the fretboard to the ends of the envelope and then channelled all those intricate and unique sounds into true art form. jeff beck is the guy that all the other guitar players wish they could grow up to be. except... 1) Peter Townshend (my personal ultimate hero) who invented all the acrobatics and stage histrionics of modern rock. Even Jimi marveled at The Who to the extent where the famous light-the-guitar trick at Monterrey was, as Jimi put it (after they came on I HAD top do something or die). While Pete is today a fabulous player technically it was his invention of stage tricks and "air guitar" moves that solidified his place in rock history for all time. Only Rocker to write two Operas and a couple more mini-operas and one stage play. Lastly Pete was renown for giving little solliloquies before each song at their shows. Crediting old Brit players and songwriters. The bands nightly destruction of the entire instrument ensemble in the 1968 tour shows stands as the single most unique act in the history of Rock. 147 Gibson SGs destroyed in one tour. Most famous lyric " I hope I die before I get old" I was just informed by Bob Mueller that Ther Who are the weeks guests on The Simpsons. Now I know WHY Pete wrote that li ne. Marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:07:23 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists Ry Cooder Joni Mitchell Glen Campbell Les Paul Jimi Hendrix Jerry np: Jeff Buckey - Mystery White Boy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:45:18 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: costumes for tonight [vjc] Wally writes: << what are your costumes for this evening?>> I'm gonna be, like, Lenny Kravitz. You know, a hippy. I'm wearing a paisley shirt, and will be festooned with many strings of mardi gras beads, a floppy velvet hat, hip-hugger jeans, a bead & feather earring in one ear, and star-shaped rose colored glasses, and as much of an Afro as I can muster. I'll be wandering about San Francisco's Castro district tonight taking in the lunacy. This town takes Halloween pretty seriously. Never a dull moment today. - -Julius np: Michael Jackson, "Thriller" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:21:29 US/Eastern From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Five Fave Guitarists <> I just listened to and transferred his version of BSN to Covers, Volume 12, and it's a really nice take. Maybe some people think Glen borders on cheese but I've always liked his guitar playing, that crackly thing his voice does, his smarts regarding picking good songs to sing (lots of good Jimmy Webb stuff there, Kakki!). Volume 12 is shaping up really nicely, btw...lots of cool and uber-rare stuff...details to follow! Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "s-e-x-x-y, The Warren Rigg Microwave Mix" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 22:52:31 +0000 From: Howard Subject: Re: Neil & Joni's (& Jimi's) Guitar playing patrick wrote: >i think the reason why >neil plays such simple leads is because he can't do anything else. but that >does'nt degrade him in my understanding. he has so many other gifts that are >unique to him. but he's not a lead player and nor is joni. It's certainly true that Joni is a rhythm player, a chordal player. But, to me at least, Neil Young is a great lead player as well as a great rhythm player. As a lead guitarists, he is one of my favourites - he is creative, passionate, just a wonderful player. Funnily enough, I hear a lot more of the "spirit of Hendrix" in his playing than in most others. He hasn't got the chops of Hendrix, but he has got the inspiration, the energy, the power, the expression. That's something that's pretty rare these days. ... and Joni definitely has plenty of inspiration, energy and expression in her playing too, it's just that it comes out in her chordal/rhythm style. I wouldn't like to say who I preferred as a guitarist from the three of them. Plenty of great music to be had from all of them! Howard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:58:35 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: costumes for tonight julius!!!! you ARE a man of courage!!!! wallyK - -----Mensaje original----- De: JRMCo1@aol.com [mailto:JRMCo1@aol.com] Enviado el: Martes, 31 de Octubre de 2000 03:45 p.m. Para: wallykai@fibertel.com.ar CC: joni@smoe.org Asunto: Re: costumes for tonight [vjc] I'll be wandering about San Francisco's Castro district tonight taking in the lunacy. This town takes Halloween pretty seriously. Never a dull moment today. - -Julius np: Michael Jackson, "Thriller" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:51:47 EST From: JoniMessages@aol.com Subject: BSN parody for election day This message came into JoniMitchell.com yesterday... I thought somebody might think it was a fun thing to do so I'm passing it along: - -------------------- Jim, You may have noticed that election day comes out on Joni Mitchell's birthday. Can you or your creative colleagues think of an approppriate song parody about the candidates to the tune of "Both sides Now", or another JM song (I just thought "Both Sides" lends itself best--e.g. "I've looked at Gore from both sides now, I really don't know Bush at all" etc.) I would greatly appreciate any help you can supply, and feel free to forward this message to anyone who you think might be able to help. There is an open mike night nearby that meets every Mon. night, so rather than just read some Joni Mitchell lyrics, I thought it would be kinda cool to perform this parody next week on the eve of election day and Joni's b'day (Obviously I'd be sure to credit the author, be it you or whoever). Dave - -------------------- If anybody's interested, send your parody to Dave at Desop18@aol.com. jj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:57:52 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Elvis's favorite Joni albums Did anyone read the new Vanity Fair magazine?Elvis Costello lists his favorite 500 albums.Included are 6 albums by Joni:"Blue","FTR","C&S",HOSL","Hejira" and "TTT".He also lists his favorite songs on each album. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:10:07 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Back in 1974 (MD) MDESTE1@aol.com wrote: > I always think of the movie Monterrey Pop with Janis Joplin doing Ball & > Chain, and Otis Redding doing Try a Little Tenderness. And No Nukes with > Bruce doing Rosalita. But the Ultimate for me was The Who doing Summertime > Blues. marcel Marcel, you know that you mention "Monterey Pop" (that great 1969 movie of the 1967 event) and I will chime in... and the Who was great in the film, Otis was better, Ravi Shankar was better, and Janis was the best ever. But also, my friend, how long did you think that I would see a thread called "Back in 1974" before I said that the best event ever in 1974 was on 8 August at about 9 pm EDT: Nixon resigned. And the next day was almost as good: Nixon left the White House. Gees, I restrained for days from commenting on that but the thread finally got to me... (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:24:35 -0500 From: "Patricia O'Connor" Subject: Re: BSN parody for election day Jim wrote; > > You may have noticed that election day comes out on Joni Mitchell's birthday. > Can you or your creative colleagues think of an approppriate song parody > about the candidates to the tune of "Both sides Now", Well... here goes: Liars thieves and sycophants Indies, donkeys and elephants (Hope this one keeps it in his pants) Oh it's election day President, senator, and congressmen Referendums 1 through 10 Where have you gone Tom JeffersEn? On this election day I've held my nose and voted now Civic duty Yet still somehow I'm apathetic and cynicALL Won't stay up for returns This fall Albert Gore, George Double U I've made my choice I've said P.U. Oh man! I've stepped in dog-do Oh it's election day So we'll have a new President He'll be a mortal like Clark Kent Where have all the flowers went On this election day I've held my nose and voted now Civic duty But still somehow I'd rather write-in Joan Mitchall Cause this is her birthday Th-a-a-t's all It seems like that might be verses 1 & 3. Verse two eludes me. Happy Halloween y'all. Patricia O'Connor p.a.oconnor@att.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:08:55 -0500 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: 5 fave guitarists Have been watching this thread closely, and some excellent choices by all. I'm almost embarrased to say that I know nothing 'bout Richard Thompson. Suggestions from anyone as where to begin? Joni is a given! 1. Pat Metheny 2. John Abercrombie 3. Birelli Lagrene- the only guitarist ever, who has been able to duplicate Django! Also a gypsy. 4. Tuck Andress 5. Ralph Towner And Jimi must also be a given Regards, Stephen in Vancouver NP: Ketil Bjornstad/David Darling- Upland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:38:43 +1300 From: "Hell" Subject: Re: Back in 1974 (MD) Kakki wrote: > I have to say how much I always appreciate your historical perspective. As > much as I enjoyed those early days, I was, as Steve Dulson said the other > day "a mere child" who of course, just gladly lapped it all up at the time, > but was too young in some respects to have the perspective of you and others > who were experiencing it from a longer view. I did have a slight panic > attack the other day when Lori wrote about the 70s being the decade when it > all really came to fruition. Yes, the 70s were happening big time, but to > me, the genesis of it all started from about '63 on and was so much more > exciting than what followed in the 70s. Lori, I hope your boss will > consider the 60s more - I felt a little like a victim of "revisionist > history" when I read about his book! > Lori - please don't think I'm singling you out - the same day you wrote I > was comparing notes with a friend at work about seeing "Almost Famous". > Because of his age, the apex for him was the 70s, but I gasped when he said > that all the great and improtant music happened then! As a complete outsider, ie. being born in 1966, and living on the other side of the world, I just wondered if maybe the differences between Kakki's experiences and others were/are a locational thing? I've always thought California was where the whole flower-power/music explosion happened, and it took a while to filter out to the rest of the country? I remember an interview with Michelle Phillips (Mamas and Papas) saying they were in New York after spending some time in the Caribbean, and Michelle begging John to take the group to California, because "that's where it's all happening". I know the folk music scene was big in New York, but isn't California where the whole electric thing started happening? I also seem to recall some interviews around the Woodstock time with people in New York who "didn't get" the whole West Coast thing? I'm probably wrong, but I just thought, "maybe Kakki and Lori are both right"? Hell ____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 02:06:22 -0500 From: Janet Hess Subject: Re: 5 fave guitarists Michael Hedges, bless him Pat Metheny Tuck Andress John Fahey Will Ackerman and that Joni Mitchell ain't bad, neither - -------------- You've got to shake your fists at lightning now You've got to roar like forest fire You've got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #418 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?