From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #388 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, October 6 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 388 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The next video tape tree [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: Kathie Lee's Circle Game [Jeff Clark ] Old interviews with musicians [Jeff Clark ] re: Some Joni trivia ["c Karma" ] On Madonna [Jeff Clark ] Re: "Banquet" [Catherine McKay ] Re: Some Joni trivia [dsk ] Re: Some Joni trivia ["Kakki" ] That Song About the Midway ["Kate Bennett" ] Suggestions for Kathy Lee's Next Cover [Dottie Hinkel ] Kathy Lee Sings "Coyote" [Dottie Hinkel ] Stars & their Chars SJC ["Steve Mitchell" ] Re: Stars & their Chars SJC [AsharaJM@aol.com] Joni on Johnny Cash ["Steve" ] Re: Stars & their Chars SJC [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: next video tape tree [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: astrology census ["Steve Mitchell" ] Re: Stars & their Chars SJC ["Steve Mitchell" ] Re: Stars & their Chars SJC [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Kathie Lee's Circle Game [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "Banquet" [Heather ] RE: That Song About the Midway ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: That Song About the Midway ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: That Song About the Midway ["Kakki" ] RE: That Song About the Midway ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: That Song About the Midway [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: That Song About the Midway [Dottie Hinkel ] Fw: That Song About the Midway ["Kakki" ] Banquet--My Experience (VLJC) [Lindsay Moon ] RE: That Song About the Midway ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: last 5 CD's purchased/top 10 songs [Nancy ] Re: That Song About the Midway [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: That Song About the Midway and Croz ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:29:57 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: The next video tape tree Lots of people have e-mailed me lately about the next video tape tree that was promised by September, which will include the tape of the Mendel show. Simon has climbed on board with this project, and I am waiting for him to get back to me. The upside of this collaboration is that the quality will be better, hopefully including titles for each segment, which I do not have the ability to do. The downside is that this project is taking much longer than I had anticipated. It was my desire to get this video into everyone's hands right after Saskatoon. Please be patient, as I think the wait will be well worth it. Sorry for the delay. In the meantime, anyone who does not have the first video tree, volumes 1 & 2, or a copy of A Day in the Garden, and would like them, please contact me. You can find out more about the video tree by going to the JMDL main page (www.jmdl.com) and click on tape trading. Also....anyone who would like a free program from the BSN concerts from this spring, please let me know. I still have a BSN hat from the same tour that I would really, really love to sell, and just recoup my money if anyone is interested. $27 plus shipping. That's it for now. Still glowing after the Club Passim concert last night. Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 00 09:44:47 EDT From: Jeff Clark Subject: Re: Kathie Lee's Circle Game <> I actually did look to see if this was already listed on your Covers site, but just looked under "The Circle Game" -- didn't think to look under "Born For You" Guess I shouldn't underestimate the thoroughness of a World Class Music Slut! (kidding) Jeff -- contemplating Kathie Lee's next Joni cover -- Coyote?? ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 00 10:22:10 EDT From: Jeff Clark Subject: Old interviews with musicians <> (Regarding Joni on Judy Garland) That article is kind of a co-interview with Cassandra Wilson from DownBeat- December, 1996 called "Alternate Tunings" It's on JMDL and is quite a good article as it is all about music. I think she describes Judy as a "belter" and says she isn't sure if she likes that style of singing. Anyway since it is so damn slow at work I just reread Cameron Crowes interview from RS available on the Joni Mitchell.com page. From there, there are links to more of Camerons interviews from the 70's. In particular, I enjoyed reading the Led Zeppelin interview from 1975. Included are some cool comments by Page on Joni: "Every musician wants to do something of lasting quality, something which will hold up for a long time and I guess we did it with "Stairway."[...] I don't know whether I have the ability to come up with more. I have to do a lot of hard work before I can get anywhere near those stages of consistent, total brilliance. I don't think there are too many people who are capable of it. Maybe one. Joni Mitchell. That's the music that I play at home all the time, Joni Mitchell. Court and Spark I love because I'd always hoped that she'd work with a band. But the main thing with Joni is that she's able to look at something that's happened to her, draw back and crystalize the whole situation, then write about it. She brings tears to my eyes, what more can I say? It's bloody eerie. I can relate so much to what she says. "Now old friends are acting strange/They shake their heads/They say I've changed." I'd like to know how many of the original friends any well-known musician has got. You'd be surprised. They think -particularly that thing of change -they all assume that you've changed. For the worse. There are very few people I can call real, close friends. They're very, very precious to me. " This interview was really quite interesting and had pretty intelligent insights on living life from Page and Plant. Basically on taking chances and doing work that makes you happy, things I am thinking about. I'm amazed that Plant was only 26 years old in 1975! Such fine, upstanding young men! And of course everyone knows the lovely "Going to California" is a thinly veiled homage to La Mitchell. Jeff -- recalling "Honk if you love Led Zeppelin" bumper sticker on first car. Also hoping boss isn't secret, closet Joni "lurker". ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:58:31 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Some Joni trivia Nope, never heard that one before and not sure if I buy it completely. That is, unless it was edited to misquote Cash. When this story took place, there was no Joni Mitchell. She was Roberta Joan Anderson, or Joan Anderson, or perhaps even Joni Anderson. Chuck provided the Mitchell part when Joni was no longer eligible to become 'Toon teen queen. Perhaps it happened, but when she assumed the title, her name wasn't Joni Mitchell but was "to become" Joni Mitchell. Sorry to nit pick, but isn't that what trivia is? CC "I'm not ready to change my name again." -- JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 00 11:43:16 EDT From: Jeff Clark Subject: On Madonna <> Another sham I would have to say. I can still see her picture on the cover of Rolling Stone in her "mystical pose" with those cold, calculating eyes and all her yoga trappings. Being able to work your body into advanced poses and yakking about Indian gurus dosen't make one spiritual. You can tell just by looking at her she dosen't have a clue, it was just the latest calulated persona to put out there. All about fashion. Someone who really practices yoga and understands it has a softness and aura about them that is polar opposite from Madonna. Think Trudy Styler (Sting's wife). This dosen't mean I don't think Madonna is great at times. While I personally thought "Ray of Light" was so overrated (she sounds like she has a cold), "Erotica" is the one I really like. Not sure why that one was so overlooked. I think it came out the same time as that truly awful "Sex" book that was a huge mistake, and people just lumped them together as Madonna's first Big Miss. But the themes that were in such poor taste in the book worked quite well on Erotica I thought--a very HOT record that flows from song to song nicely. And I enjoy listening to the Immaculate Collection when cleaning the house. Jeff ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:50:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Banquet" - --- Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > > > One of my favorite Joni songs is "Banquet",the > first song on FTR.The song > really sais so much about life on earth in this day > and age.Does anyone else > love this song? It's a great song. My daughter was working on science project (I think it was science - maybe it was some other subject!) They were supposed to create a cartoon-strip with appropriate music for each part of the cartoon strip. Her subject was cheetahs, as they happen to be her favourite animal. The action consisted of a hungry cheetah out prowling for food, that comes across a zebra, which she attacks and kills and brings home to her family to eat. Blood and gore and all that - cripes, the kids today! Sarah was looking for appropriate music for each scene and for the cheetah-lets eating zebra, all I could think of was "Come to the dinner gong/ Table is laden high/ Fat bellies and hungry little ones/ Tuck your napkin in and take your share". I just couldn't bring myself to do it though, so I kept my mouth shut. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 14:02:21 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Some Joni trivia c Karma wrote: > Nope, never heard that one before and not sure if I buy it completely. That > is, unless it was edited to misquote Cash. When this story took place, > there was no Joni Mitchell. She was Roberta Joan Anderson, or Joan > Anderson, or perhaps even Joni Anderson. Chuck provided the Mitchell part > when Joni was no longer eligible to become 'Toon teen queen. Perhaps it > happened, but when she assumed the title, her name wasn't Joni Mitchell but > was "to become" Joni Mitchell. Sorry to nit pick, but isn't that what > trivia is? I do buy it because it explains how Joni got onto the Johnny Cash Show. Yes, she's extraordinarily talented but I never understood how she ended up on a country singer's show, so this explains it. Johnny probably heard good things about her, but he also already knew her (and personal connections count for A LOT in every business). As far as the name thing, this was a reminiscence, not an "at the moment" report, so the fact that Johnny remembered her as Joni Mitchell years after she was on his show (using the name Joni Mitchell), makes sense to me. Plus, I don't know why Johnny Cash or an editor would make up such a story. It's possible, of course, but why bother? It's not as though there's a need in a book about Memphis music to please Joni Mitchell fans. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:24:52 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Some Joni trivia Debra and CC - Somewhere on either the JMDL video tree Johnny Cash show segments or on some cuts off a recording sent to me, there is indeed chatter between Joni and Johnny about him meeting her years before in Saskatoon in connection with the contest when she was still Roberta Joan Anderson. I'll hunt around for it. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:53:21 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: That Song About the Midway I must think I have time on my hands to be posting so much. Maybe its a full moon or something. Anyway, are there any other guesses as to who Joni wrote TSATM about? No, its not Jimi. Do you want a hint? It is in the line, "Can you fly I heard you did, can you fly. Like an eagle doing your hunting from the sky." ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Dottie Hinkel Subject: Suggestions for Kathy Lee's Next Cover - --- Jeff Clark wrote: contemplating Kathie Lee's next Joni cover > -- Coyote?? Yes...I can envision such a cover...in fact, I think it would be a real career-booster if Kathy Lee released an entire album of Joni covers to coincide with the impending tribute album. Some suggestions for Ms. Lee-Gifford might be: "Lead Ballon," The Beat Of Black Wings" -- of course, the dreaded "f" word would have to be replaced with something like "gosh darn," "Dreamland," "Dancin' Clown," "The Sire Of Sorrow,"...perhaps "My Secret Place" as a duet with little Codie?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:39:45 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway O.K. Kate, this one has got me going since that was one of the first Joni songs I ever learned to play and I think it's still one of her best. Is it Neil Young? Kakki > I must think I have time on my hands to be posting so much. Maybe its a full > moon or something. Anyway, are there any other guesses as to who Joni wrote > TSATM about? > > No, its not Jimi. Do you want a hint? It is in the line, "Can you fly I > heard you did, can you fly. Like an eagle doing your hunting from the sky." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:11:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dottie Hinkel Subject: Kathy Lee Sings "Coyote" - --- Jeff Clark wrote: contemplating Kathie Lee's next Joni cover > -- Coyote?? Yes...I can envision such a cover...in fact, I think it would be a real career-booster if Kathy Lee released an entire album of Joni covers to coincide with the impending tribute album. Some suggestions for Ms. Lee-Gifford might be: "Lead Ballon," The Beat Of Black Wings" -- of course, the dreaded "f" word would have to be replaced with something like "gosh darn," "Dreamland," "Dancin' Clown," "The Sire Of Sorrow,"...perhaps "My Secret Place" as a duet with little Codie?? __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:32:28 +0100 From: "Steve Mitchell" Subject: Stars & their Chars SJC For those people in the UK with Sky One access, I just saw a trailer for a programme on Sunday night at 9.00 pm where Chars talk about their "star" employers. One of the Chars talks about a composer that asked her opinion on a song that she was writing, the picture that followed . . . Joni. I guess that I will be glued to the TV on Sunday night! - -- Stevie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:39:15 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Stars & their Chars SJC In a message dated 10/5/00 6:34:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stevie.mitch@btinternet.com writes: << One of the Chars talks about a composer that asked her opinion on a song that she was writing, the picture that followed . . . Joni. I guess that I will be glued to the TV on Sunday night! >> UK JMDLers: PLEEEEEEEEASE tape this on as high a quality system/tape as you can for a future video tape tree!! If you can send me the original, I will have it transfered, and send it right back. THANKS!!!!!!! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:20:15 +0100 From: "Steve" Subject: Joni on Johnny Cash Hi folks thought I might help to clear up the "did she didn't she" as far as Joni on the Johnny Cash Show (circa 1969) was concerned. Joni did appear on Johnny's show and I've got a copy, on the same show was Bob Dylan . To help answer the Saskatoon Question here's a transcription :- Joni had just finished singing Both Sides Now, JC...You wrote that song JM...Yes, Ive got about 100 I guess JC...That's beautiful . You know I was in Saskatoon for the first time, I guess, 10 or 11 years ago with Johnny Horton on a show there. I wrote a song about Saskatoon. JM...It was called The Girl From Saskatoon, I remember that one. JC...Were you at that show JM...Yes I was JC...Oh were you JM... Yes a friend of mine Rosanne was chosen the Girl From Saskatoon JC.....Oh, My......let's do a song together Joni and Johnny then duet on one of Johnny's songs "I still miss someone" And how a copy of that show found itself on a wee Scottish island over 30 years later is one of the wonders of science that I shall be forever grateful for. Steve..........the impossible dreamer NPIMH.....I still miss someone......copies to all who ask ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:33:32 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Stars & their Chars SJC In a message dated 10/5/00 6:32:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stevie.mitch@btinternet.com writes: << where Chars talk about their "star" employers. >> For those of us who don't speak that brand of English, what are "Chars"? Maids? Janitors? Cleanup people? Sanitation engineers? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:22:53 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: next video tape tree Joe Farrell wrote: << Will any of the videos be available in the PAL format so european listers could get copies to enjoy?. >> Gotcha covered!! We have at least 2 PAL branches so far for the next set of video trees, (thanks Dave and Philip!) and can always use more. Everyone will be taken care of as soon as the Master copies are ready. I have one PAL copy of A Day in the Garden, and with a polite request to the list, I'm sure some of the people that have PAL copies of the first video tape tree can help you out as well. Let me know if you'd like the Day in the Garden PAL copy I have. Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:12:53 +0100 From: "Steve Mitchell" Subject: Re: astrology census Pisces with Cancer rising here Wally (06 March 1961) - -- Stevie - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wally Kairuz" To: Sent: 27 September 2000 03:39 Subject: astrology census > joni mitchell is a scorpio. so much for joni content. > sorry guys, but since this is a census idea, i wanted everybody to get this > post, even the oj's [not simpson, jimmy, i mean the only joni's]. > for the longest time i've wanted to study the sun sign demographics on this > list. call me eccentric, call me wallyK. even if you don't believe in > astrology, i would appreciate it if you all e-mailed me privately simply > mentioning your sign. you don't have to tell me your date of birth or any > personal information. if you're not sure what sign you are, you can go to > the following link > www.astrology.com > and find out. > if you want to tell me your birthday, it's all right too. you'll be included > in my most excellent worldwide birthday greeting list!!! it would be great > if both frequent posters and lurkers participated. > my guess is that this list is mainly composed of libras and geminis. prove > me wrong. > wallyk > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:46:08 +0100 From: "Steve Mitchell" Subject: Re: Stars & their Chars SJC Paul asked: > For those of us who don't speak that brand of English, what are "Chars"? > Maids? Janitors? Cleanup people? Sanitation engineers? Originally tea-ladies (char being slang for Tea) but now any sort of domestic staff. Hope that helps. - -- Stevie xx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 17:35:49 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway For some reason, I have it in my head that it was about Leonard Cohen. It would make some sense if you think that the "midway" actually means the music biz Kakki wrote: > O.K. Kate, this one has got me going since that was one of the first Joni > songs I ever learned to play and I think it's still one of her best. Is it > Neil Young? > > Kakki > > > I must think I have time on my hands to be posting so much. Maybe its a > full > > moon or something. Anyway, are there any other guesses as to who Joni > wrote > > TSATM about? > > > > No, its not Jimi. Do you want a hint? It is in the line, "Can you fly I > > heard you did, can you fly. Like an eagle doing your hunting from the > sky." - -- Phyliss mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:00:08 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Stars & their Chars SJC In a message dated 10/5/00 8:42:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stevie.mitch@btinternet.com writes: << Originally tea-ladies (char being slang for Tea) but now any sort of domestic staff. Hope that helps. >> Sort of, except what are tea-ladies? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:26:42 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Kathie Lee's Circle Game In a message dated 10/5/00 9:54:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jclarknyc@netscape.net writes: << Jeff -- contemplating Kathie Lee's next Joni cover -- Coyote?? >> You can bet that when she does, we'll be there! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 21:29:10 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: "Banquet" Yes! I agree with you that Joni gets so much into one song. I also feel this way about People's Party from C&S. Do you (or does anyone) find that Joni has a certain strain to her voice when she sings Banquet? I find it kind of fitting with the subject matter .... in a frustrating way. Thanks for bringing this up :-) Heather - who is now getting back to writing about Shiva, Vishnu and Kali .... yikes! At 12:35 AM 10/5/00 -0400, Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > One of my favorite Joni songs is "Banquet",the first song on FTR.The > song >really sais so much about life on earth in this day and age.Does anyone else >love this song? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:42:50 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: That Song About the Midway Nope, good guess but its not Neil. Kakki, when I posted this hint, I thought of you & thought I might have to disqualify you from guessing because you might really know this answer, given this hint. So here is hint #2--Kakki should know this answer, given one of her fairly recent publicized musical passions. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Kakki [mailto:KakkiB@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 1:40 PM To: Kate Bennett; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway O.K. Kate, this one has got me going since that was one of the first Joni songs I ever learned to play and I think it's still one of her best. Is it Neil Young? Kakki > I must think I have time on my hands to be posting so much. Maybe its a full > moon or something. Anyway, are there any other guesses as to who Joni wrote > TSATM about? > > No, its not Jimi. Do you want a hint? It is in the line, "Can you fly I > heard you did, can you fly. Like an eagle doing your hunting from the sky." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:42:52 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: That Song About the Midway nope, not Leonard but yes, I think that the midway is about the music business. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Phyliss Ward [mailto:pward@datacourse.com] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:36 PM To: Kakki Cc: Kate Bennett; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway For some reason, I have it in my head that it was about Leonard Cohen. It would make some sense if you think that the "midway" actually means the music biz Kakki wrote: > O.K. Kate, this one has got me going since that was one of the first Joni > songs I ever learned to play and I think it's still one of her best. Is it > Neil Young? > > Kakki > > > I must think I have time on my hands to be posting so much. Maybe its a > full > > moon or something. Anyway, are there any other guesses as to who Joni > wrote > > TSATM about? > > > > No, its not Jimi. Do you want a hint? It is in the line, "Can you fly I > > heard you did, can you fly. Like an eagle doing your hunting from the > sky." - -- Phyliss mailto:pward@datacourse.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:46:05 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway Oh wow! Could it be about Gene Clark, who (many stories recount) developed a fear of flying and when asked why he quit the Byrds said "to be a Byrd one must fly"? I was kind of disappointed that it wasn't about Jimi but if it is about Clark, the song will really mean a lot more to me. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:27:01 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: That Song About the Midway oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Kakki [mailto:KakkiB@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:46 PM To: Kate Bennett; Phyliss Ward Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway Oh wow! Could it be about Gene Clark, who (many stories recount) developed a fear of flying and when asked why he quit the Byrds said "to be a Byrd one must fly"? I was kind of disappointed that it wasn't about Jimi but if it is about Clark, the song will really mean a lot more to me. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:31:14 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway In a message dated 10/5/00 10:29:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: << oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! ******************************************** Kate Bennett >> I'm more curious than who the song is about, Kate, how you can know with such certainty? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:13:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Dottie Hinkel Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway it's not Dylan, is it? - --- IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/5/00 10:29:28 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > kate@katebennett.com writes: > > << oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! > > ******************************************** > Kate Bennett > >> > I'm more curious than who the song is about, Kate, > how you can know with > such certainty? > > Paul I __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:09:52 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Fw: That Song About the Midway > oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! Oh damn! ;-) It would have fit Clark who "packed it in" with the Byrds and the biz for a bit. Hmmm, Croz "packed it in" (was fired) with the Byrds, too, when he bucked them to run off and play some gigs with the Buffalo Springfield. After that bust-up he did go into hiding in a sense until he re-emerged with Nash and Stills to form CSN. The timing is right, too. This is definitely a new one, Kate - don't recall any "source" info about this song on the list before. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:25:20 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Banquet--My Experience (VLJC) Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > One of my favorite Joni songs is "Banquet",the first song on FTR.The > song >really sais so much about life on earth in this day and age.Does anyone else >love this song? I meant to reply to this the day it appeared, and then thought against it, and then decided to ... Oh, the indecision! When I was a senior in high school in 1974 and about a year into my Joni insanity (which grows each day I'm happy to say) we had a class project that we would make a videotape of what America meant to us or some such thing. Not being able to think of anything original and feeling very self-conscious, I recited the lyrics to "Banquet." (Makes perfect sense, what America means to me from a Canadian's point of view ...) Afterwards, another classmate came up and said, "oh, I wish you'd told me you were going to do that. I'd have accompanied you on piano." I'm afraid I never would have been brave enough to sing it, but it was nice that someone knew of it. I can only hope that tape has been burned somewhere. Sheesh! You know I'd only share these kinds of things with you guys! Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:05:10 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: That Song About the Midway yep, its Croz (according to him). Kinda cool when you consider all the bird stuff. Apparently either she or he was living in a trailer (on the camping grounds) too. Also "devil wearing wings" (he was a scoundrel as he freely admits, cheating with the women but he sang like an angel) and "do you tie them to your shoulder just to sing." Apparently the first time he heard it she sang it at a party, staring at him & giving him the angry eye as she sang. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** - -----Original Message----- From: Kakki [mailto:kakkib@att.net] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 7:36 PM To: Kate Bennett; Phyliss Ward Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway > oh Kakki, you are getting warmer! Oh damn! ;-) It would have fit Clark who "packed it in" with the Byrds and the biz for a bit. Hmmm, Croz "packed it in" (was fired) with the Byrds, too, when he bucked them to run off and play some gigs with the Buffalo Springfield. After that bust-up he did go into hiding in a sense until he re-emerged with Nash and Stills to form CSN. The timing is right, too. This is definitely a new one, Kate - don't recall any "source" info about this song on the list before. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 00:09:35 +0100 From: Nancy Subject: Re: last 5 CD's purchased/top 10 songs 5. Mary Chapin Carpenter - Hometown Girl 4. Mary Chapin Carpenter - Stones in the Road 3. Mary Chapin Carpenter - Come On Come On 2. Edwin McCain - Misguided Roses 1. Joni Mitchell - Hits 1. Cactus Tree 2. All I Want 3. Woman of Heart & Mind 4. A Case of You 5. I Don't Know Where I Stand 6. Help Me 7. Jericho 8. How Do You Stop 9. Two Grey Rooms 10. Woodstock - --Nancy/IA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:15:09 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway In a message dated 10/6/00 1:14:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kate@katebennett.com writes: << Apparently either she or he was living in a trailer (on the camping grounds) too. Also "devil wearing wings" (he was a scoundrel as he freely admits, cheating with the women but he sang like an angel) and "do you tie them to your shoulder just to sing." Apparently >> "Apparently" to whom? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:12:50 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: That Song About the Midway and Croz > yep, its Croz (according to him). Kinda cool when you >consider all the bird stuff. Kate, that is very cool! And re-reading the lyrics it makes perfect sense if one knows his history at that time. It makes the song all the more brilliant. >" Apparently the first time he heard it she sang it at a party, >staring at him & giving him the angry eye as she sang. I can imagine. In the song she always did sound a bit sad and angry to me, too, with some hiss especially on the "pack it in, I heard ya did" - almost sarcastic. She really gives a tone that they guy is a scoundrel. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I love hearing these little tidbits revealed after all these years. But please let me know if you ever hear she did a song about Gene Clark or even McGuinn, too ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 23:29:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Dottie Hinkel Subject: Re: "Banquet" One of my favorites...She did a great hard-edged version of "Banquet" on the WTRF tour back in 83...the tone of which verged more blatantly on anger/outrage. She performs it on the "Refuge Of The Roads" video in which she added a new lyric..."stone by stone I built myself a place to hide from tax-deductible charities that give the rich man pride." - --- Heather wrote: > Yes! I agree with you that Joni gets so much into > one song. I also feel > this way about People's Party from C&S. Do you (or > does anyone) find that > Joni has a certain strain to her voice when she > sings Banquet? I find it > kind of fitting with the subject matter .... in a > frustrating way. > Thanks for bringing this up :-) > Heather - who is now getting back to writing about > Shiva, Vishnu and Kali > .... yikes! > > At 12:35 AM 10/5/00 -0400, Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > > > > One of my favorite Joni songs is "Banquet",the > first song on FTR.The > > song > >really sais so much about life on earth in this day > and age.Does anyone else > >love this song? > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #388 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?