From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #385 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, October 3 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 385 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "Songwriting and the Guitar" [JRMCo1@aol.com] Subject: "Songwriting and the Guitar" ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: white house on jmdl [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: jeff buckley did Joni! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: 5 recent purchases... [Jerry Notaro ] most recent purchases ["Stephen Epstein" ] Re: 5 recent purchases... ["Reuben Bell" ] Re: 5 recent purchases... [Don Rowe ] Re: Hearing Joni in the Store [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: 5 recent purchases... [Andrew Baio ] Most obscure Joni songs in public [Don Rowe ] car plates [gay reimers ] Re: Most obscure Joni songs in public [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: jeff buckley did Joni! [BarBearUh ] Somebody please tell me ... [Don Rowe ] Re: car plates [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: car plates [Don Rowe ] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [Siresorrow@aol.com] jeff buckley [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [Don Rowe ] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Somebody please tell me ... [Don Rowe ] Traveling with Joni. ["Russell Bowden" ] I hope this is not a stupid question..... ["Signe Wiig Salvesen" ] The sounds of your voices are still new.... ["Neil Macduff" ] Re: Mystery of Cat Stevens [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: The sounds of your voices are still new.... [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: 5 recent purchases... [Heather ] Re: Mystery of Cat Stevens [dsk ] Re: Mystery of Cat Stevens [pat holden ] Embedded nuggets, was:Re: The significance of a centerpiece [MGVal@aol.co] Janis [Vince Lavieri ] Tony Green (SJC) [Michael Paz ] Topsfield mp3's are up [Steve Mixon ] Re: Embedded nuggets, was:Re: The significance of a centerpiece ["Stephen] Hearing Joni in the Store [evian ] RE: 5 most recent purchases ["Blair Fraipont" ] Top 15 joni songs ["Blair Fraipont" ] Re: 5 recent purchases... ["Vadim Litvin" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 03:42:34 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: "Songwriting and the Guitar" Hi Garrett: It's the latest in the Acoustic Guitar Guidebook series, released in August 2000 by Acoustic Guitar Magazine. It looks most intriguing, judging by the top-notch singer/songwriters who are contributers. I guess they were getting this publication ready for release just as were at the height of our recent "Best Winger/Songwriter" thread. The synopsis is below. I'm quite curious about what She who Is QUOMB has to say on the topics below, discussed as they are so interestingly and often on this List. Thanks much for pointing this out, G. Good eye. Quite incidently, tickets for Paul Simon's performance in Oakland, CA go on sale in my little corner of the world this morning. He's featured in the book, too. You can read more and order from the magazine for 14.95 + shipping, etc. at: http://www.acousticguitar.com/books/guidebooks.html#song <> Songwriting and the Guitar, $14.95 - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 04:27:31 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: "Songwriting and the Guitar" Hi Garrett, check www.acouticguitar.com I think I saw something there by Sam Shaber. By the way Sam Shaber is one of those great Indiegrrls I was talking about! Garrett wrote: When i was in America this summer ( how many posts can i possibly start in this manner??) i had the absolute pleasure of seeing a young lady named Sam Shaber perform. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 04:37:39 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: SoCal gigs, Kate, Tom Rush, and Mingus (SJC) Just want to be sure anyone thinking of coming to the Indiegrrl show in Hollywood has the correct date. It is Tuesday, Oct 10 at Highland Grounds in Hollywood. Hopefully I didn't send the wrong date, sorry if I did. "Kakki" wrote: I'm not makring this NJC so that Phyliss and perhaps some others on the only joni list can see it and it's Joni-related, too. Congratulations to Kate Bennet for the Indiegrrl tour! I would love to make the Santa Barbara or Ventura dates but will have to see how my time goes. I plan to go to the Highland Grounds show in Hollywood on Oct. 12th and I hope some of the SoCal group will be able to come by. This is sure to be a great night of music. ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 06:01:57 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Nice posts I should log-off and go to bed, but I'd just toss and turn if I didn't give appreciation for the thoughtful quality of so many of today's messages to the List. Andrew's "Significance of Centerpiece" post serves up ample food for thought. I follow what you're saying, and will have your observations in mind the next time I cue up HOSL. And Eric uncloaks to post nicely on hearing Joni in the store, a favorite jmdl theme. Sobering reminder that our wildwood flower waves ever more infrequently from the radio these days. But don't get me wrong, sometimes I'm happy. Welcome to the posting, Eric. Carry on. The trip to the San Diego Diltz exhibit post by Lindsay Moon was..."incendiary," to devilishly quote from "Almost Famous." I saw it tonight, Lindsay, and your reality points are well-taken. Kakki's follow-up was a key heads-up, as I'm penciling in Diltz's San Jose photography presentation on my calendar. Cool..thanks, K. A good coming week to you all. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:05:28 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: 5 recent purchases... Let's see now... 1.Madonna - Music 2.Terre Roche - The Sound of a Tree Falling 3.Rickie Lee Jones - It's Like This 4.Joan Osborne - Righteous Love 5.Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis Enjoying ALL of them IMMENSELY. Runner up? No More Sad Refrains (The Anthology) - Sandy Denny Going back to bed now that the cats been fed, Chris. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:30:59 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl bob, this was a beautiful post. thank you. patrick np. supertramp In a message dated 9/30/00 8:52:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << I thought about Relayer's post, and the replies to Relayer's post all day yesterday, because of my own experiences, and it led me to "The Circle Game" and thinking about the mystical magical world as seen through the eyes of a youth, catching dragonflies in jars, and tearful at the falling of a star, and such, and then becoming an adult and seeing the dreams of youth losing grandeur coming true, and it reminded me once again what a brilliant, unimaginably good writer Joni is so as to be a touchstone for whatever happens to be on my mind! >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 07:56:04 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: jeff buckley did Joni! <> Well, Eric, I knew that he did it, but I'm looking for a copy of the show for the Covers Project. If you get a line on snagging a copy of the tape, let me know! Bob NP: Stones, "When The Whip Comes Down" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:33:30 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... 1. Sing a Song for You: A Tributes to Tim Buckley 2. Nancy LaMott - Listen to My heart 3. Dar Williams - The Green World 4. Babs - Timeless 5. Chris Whitley - Perfect Day Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 10:03:47 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: most recent purchases - ---------------------- Forwarded by Stephen Epstein/Agmont on 10/02/2000 06:48 AM --------------------------- Stephen Epstein 10/02/2000 07:02 AM To: jonie@smoe.org cc: Subject: most recent purchases Dar Williams- The Green World Rickie Lee Jones- It's LIke This EmmyLou Harris- Red Dirt Girl Charlie Haden- The Art of Song Jimmy Scott- Mood Indigo Regards, Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 10:16:13 -0400 From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... Madonna - Music Bjork - Selmasongs Jimmy Sommerville - Root Beer Liza Minelli - Results Creatures - Prettiest Thing e.p. Reuben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... 1. Mark Knopfler -- "sailing to philadelphia" 2. Jude Cole -- "Falling Home" 3. Don Henley -- "Inside Job" 4. Maxell CDR74 -- Used to burn the songs from the TNT Tribute show (okay, so it took me a while!) 5. Farewell to Juliet -- "Grace and Dire Circumstances" Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:20:09 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Re: Hearing Joni in the Store Hey Eric! I am also a list-er in her twenties and immediately identified with you in terms of hearing Joni on the radio or in a store. It's so funny because it made me jump for joy inside when it happened. I was in Pathmark (which is a grocery store here in NYC) of all places and I heard Car on the Hill. Two weeks later I heard Conversation and Circle Game in the same trip. Who knew Pathmark had such good taste? I was expecting everyone in the store to stop and say, "Wow! They're playing Joni!" and start singing along while they shopped. But of course, I was the only I could see doing that. Had to share too! : ) tanya in NYC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 08:34:23 -0700 From: Andrew Baio Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... 1. The Allman Brothers Band - Eat a Peach (1972) 2. Gomez - Abandoned Shopping Trolley Hotline (2000) 3. Ugly Duckling - Journey To Anywhere (2000) 4. Friends of Dean Martinez - A Place In The Sun (2000) 5. Medeski, Martin and Wood - Tonic (2000) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:37:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Most obscure Joni songs in public I too, hear a lot of Joni in my local grocery store. A tune every other week or so. Of course, it's usually one of the 'hits' ... but so help me, this has got to be the MOST obscure cut I've heard playing in a public place. In this same grocery store, I'm stopped dead in my tracks in amazement to hear: "Edith and the Kingpin" -- no kidding! Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 08:56:49 -0700 (PDT) From: gay reimers Subject: car plates I have Hejira 1 or 1 Hejira (can't remember which.. haven't had morning coffee yet!) on my 1979 Firebird. It was the finishing touch when I finished rebuilding my 'bird. It's one of my favorite features on my car. Loved driving it to Joni's BSN concert at Concord in this year. Now I'm attempting to figure out what to put on my jeep!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:12:29 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Most obscure Joni songs in public In a message dated 10/2/00 11:41:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dgrowe227@yahoo.com writes: << . but so help me, this has got to be the MOST obscure cut I've heard playing in a public place. In this same grocery store, I'm stopped dead in my tracks in amazement to hear: "Edith and the Kingpin" -- no kidding! Don Rowe >> Heard it in a Publix just a couple weeks ago, while shopping with my son, who doesn't mind listening to Joni as long as I don't sing along. ;>) Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:18:41 -0400 From: BarBearUh Subject: Re: jeff buckley did Joni! > Might be old news but heard a tape of Jeff Buckley playing late on New > Years Eve 12/31/95 in New York and on it he is noodling > through People's Parties! So glad to hear one of my faves playing my > all-time fave even if its not a classic. > > Eric this is not old news to me! did he actually sing it or play it on guitar? i'd love to get a copy of this. jeff's covers were often amazing - i love his version of cohen's "hallelujah" and van's "the way young lovers do" barbara np: bragg & wilco, mermaid avenue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Somebody please tell me ... Just what it is that everyone's so in love with about Madonna's latest album? Color me in shades of right angles if you like, but to my ear, with the exception of one track, "Music" should have more properly been titled "A Series of Annoying Noises." Am I the only one who thinks the arrangements are the worst kind of gratuitously ticky-bleepy-poppy electronica cliche? Am I the only one who thinks there should be an international ban on the manufacture and sale of vocorders? And those lyrics (at least those you can hear buried under layers of "oopy-yoop-yoop-pekow" synthesis) are just banal. No wonder Maddy decided not to print them in the liner notes. And please, no doctoral theses on the "musical conflation of the signifier" ... or any such similar theoretical double-talk. Just let me know what it is that makes you think, when you come home from a day's work, "Yeah, let's put THAT on." And now that I hear the sounds of nuclear-powered welding torches firing up out there in joniland, I'll just slip into something a little more ... flame retardant. Don't worry kids, I'm STILL a big Madonna fan! :-) Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:39:39 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: car plates In a message dated 10/2/00 12:03:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, greimers@yahoo.com writes: << Now I'm attempting to figure out what to put on my jeep!! >> I would rule out HELPME , TWISTED, or HOWDOUSTOP! You might consider DOWN2U or MYBEST2U, or if you have one of those old Suzuki Samurai's, then you could use TINANJL :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:41:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: car plates - --- gay reimers wrote: > Loved driving it to Joni's BSN concert at Concord in > this year. Now I'm attempting to figure out what to > put on my jeep!! > How about "Just Ice"? ;-) Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 13:26:23 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... <> OK Don, just keep this thought in mind the next time you have to leap to DED's defense! ;~) Bob NP: Stones, "How Can I Stop" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:01:51 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... In a message dated 10/2/00 1:33:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << OK Don, just keep this thought in mind the next time you have to leap to DED's defense! ;~) >> well......i forgot....rowe was ded rong about that one. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 14:08:35 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: jeff buckley MusicIsSpecial wrote: > Might be old news but heard a tape of Jeff Buckley playing late on New Years Eve 12/31/95 in New York and on it he is noodling > through People's Parties! So glad to hear one of my faves playing my all-time fave even if its not a classic. Must be a great tape. He's one of my favorites. First he does Edith Piaf, then The Man Who Got Away, now Joni! I sure hope you have Live In Chicago. I have it on DVD and watch it over and over. Jerry np: Oscar Levant - Rhapsody In Blue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:13:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... > well......i forgot....rowe was ded rong about that one. Oh you know, I 'spose I had to expect a little of this. And I can only say that the keyboards serve the the will of songs on DED -- on "Music", the songs are little more than a convenient excuse for the producer to use that neat-o "Galactic Portamento" patch that came on the synth's RAM expansion module! Say what you will about DED, the production isn't a graduate of the school of "Gee, what's this thing do?" ;-) Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:23:22 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... In a message dated 10/2/00 2:18:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dgrowe227@yahoo.com writes: << And I can only say that the keyboards serve the the will of songs on DED -- on "Music", the songs are little more than a convenient excuse for the producer to use that neat-o "Galactic Portamento" patch that came on the synth's RAM expansion module! Say what you will about DED, the production isn't a graduate of the school of "Gee, what's this thing do?" ;-) Don Rowe >> In YOUR opinion. To some of us who, shall we say, like DED least among Joni's albums, it seems WAYYY overproduced (which usually means there's a lot of "Gee, what's this thing do") and the songs have not stood the test of time as well as most of her others. When I read your post, it seemed to me that you of all people would not be one to criticize an album with a different or unusual sound. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:32:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Somebody please tell me ... > When I read your post, it seemed to me that you of > all people would not be > one to criticize an album with a different or > unusual sound. > Ah, but that's my point. "Music" does not, to my ear, have a sound any different from, or more unusual than, anything else in the electronica genre. The sound effect choices are pedestrian, predictable, and overbearing, since they are universally mixed way too "hot". So I guess what I'm saying is, "Music" isn't just a bad Madonna album -- it's a bad electronica album on top of it. The Joni purists hate DED ... the Yes purists hate 90215 ... the Richard Thompson purists hate the Mitchell Froom produced albums, and I imagine the electronica purists don't much like "Music." And neither do I, that's all. Don Rowe ===== My debut CD "Closer Now" is now available at http://www.mp3.com/donrowe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:58:20 PDT From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Traveling with Joni. Hey Gang, Back from the dead (almost literally) It has been many months since I posted. I love the traveling with Joni thread that has been happening. In 1985, I was flying from Portland, ME to Oakland, CA..non-stop flight. Had a Walkman and some of my fave music for the trip. Some guy sitting behind me offered me some acid, which I took. Put in my mixed Joni (homemade) tape and really got off on 'This Flight Tonight'...and how!! 'All I Want', 'Refuge of the Roads', 'California, 'Hejira', 'Amelia', 'Coyote', 'Don Juans Reckless Daughter', and on and on. I am not suggesting that acid is needed, especially if you are in the air already!!! Wow! Russ The light, creation's mind, was everywhere, and all things owned its power. Charles Dickens _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:16:53 CEST From: "Signe Wiig Salvesen" Subject: I hope this is not a stupid question..... I really am a huge fan of Joni.But stupid as I am(since I really love her music) I haven`t found out if she`s still preforming live?? I mean does she holds concerts anymore? I hope Someone could tell me..... Thank You! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:43:22 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: I hope this is not a stupid question..... In a message dated 10/2/00 3:26:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, skrotnissan@hotmail.com writes: << I really am a huge fan of Joni.But stupid as I am(since I really love her music) I haven`t found out if she`s still preforming live?? I mean does she holds concerts anymore? I hope Someone could tell me..... Thank You! >> No, this isn't a stupid question. Not to worry here. Although there is nothing scheduled now, She's completed her Both Sides Now mini tour in June of this year. We Joni fans only hope and pray that there will be more. Jim Johanson of Jonimitchell.com will always keep you posted on any new Tour info. You can visit the site to read reports on past tours as well as see pictures. You can find them at www.jonimitchell.com, click on with frame index, then click on tour info. Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:26:57 EDT From: Ricw1217@aol.com Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... can i play too? ok, let's see... 1. rickie lee jones, its like this 2. madonna, music 3. emmy lou harris, red dirt girl 4. sarah harmer, you were here 5. paul simon's you're the one (getting it tomorrow!) the top of the heap, in my ever so humble opinion is my former namesake, rickielee. soon to be displaced by one of my music gods, monsieur simon, but i'm getting prophetic, since it has yet to be released! speaking of sarah harmer, anybody ever hear of her? i was in starbucks, god help me, and they had a rack of cd's for sale, one of which by ms. harmer. their little blurb compared her to lucinda williams (with whom i am not familiar) and JONI MITCHELL... ok, i thot. i'll bite. and its pretty good! there are two cuts on it i really love (basement apartment and don't get your back up) and several others i like alot. now, its true she's from canada (ontario) and she writes and sings her own songs and the gender is right, but that is where the parallel would have to end. nothing like ms. joni, (who is? go ahead, name one...) but nevertheless, she's pretty good. its fun sometimes to take a chance on a cd and have it turn out for the best. of course, taking a chance and feeling like a chump is not quite as fun, (scud mountain boys, for example...) but life is for learning... can't wait to get my paul simon cd!! out tomorrow, if anyone's interested. take care everybody! ric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:23:09 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Andy Stancliffe Subject: 5 recent purchases Out of lurk mode, because I saw so many people had bought the same things I just bought. This list sure has good taste. 1. Rickie Lee Jones - It's Like This 2. Madonna - Music 3. Bjork - Selmasongs 4. Emmylou Harris - Red Dirt Girl 5. Victoria Williams - Water to Drink Andy Stancliffe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 00:55:25 BST From: "Neil Macduff" Subject: The sounds of your voices are still new.... Hi to all, Another first-timer here. I've been lurking around here now for several months and enjoying all the chats and posts from you all. I've envied you all through the highs of the tour, the exhibition at the Mendel and your various gatherings together. I thought it was about time to say hello. I've been listening to Joni since the mid-seventies (first purchase - Court & Spark) and have stayed with her ever since. Like most of you, I find she has "documented" a lot of my life (good AND bad) over the years..... I'm renowned amongst my friends for chucking a "Joni pearl" into the midst of many a conversation about life and loves!! But heck! I'm feeling less than eloquent this evening, and anyway, what can I tell you folk that you haven't heard already? As I have read the various "newbie" postings over the months I have recognised that we all share a love of the music and artistry very deeply and in similar ways..... So I won't repeat more of the same! However... By way of gifts on my first outing, I bring cheesy things to the feasting table! If you haven't discovered it already, take a look at www.yourmobile.com which is a very comprehensive mobile ringtone download site. Register "For Free" (grin) and you too can have "California", "Carey", "Circle Game", "Free Man In Paris", and even "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio" whistling out from your 'phone. Visit the "Newest" ringtone section and you'll find them all listed, click a button and it arrives through the ether direct to your mobile..... Listen... Strains of Joni Mitchell coming thru' the Nokia...... Sacrilege, I know.... but can you resist? All the best, Neil (Sheffield, UK.) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:28:52 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Mystery of Cat Stevens For Cat Stevens fans or anyone curious about why he disappeared from the music scene, the show 20/20 Downtown on ABC (in the U.S.) has a segment on him tonight (the last 3rd of show). The promo claims to solve this mystery. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:40:17 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Mystery of Cat Stevens In a message dated 10/2/00 8:29:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dsk11@bellatlantic.net writes: << For Cat Stevens fans or anyone curious about why he disappeared from the music scene, the show 20/20 Downtown on ABC (in the U.S.) has a segment on him tonight (the last 3rd of show). The promo claims to solve this mystery. Debra Shea >> It really isn't a mystery. He found religion and also was struck by illness. But those who watched VH-1's "Behind the Music" show LAST night already know that. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:49:25 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: The sounds of your voices are still new.... In a message dated 10/2/00 8:00:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, neil_macduff@hotmail.com writes: << Another first-timer here. I've been lurking around here now for several months and enjoying all the chats and posts from you all. I've envied you all through the highs of the tour, the exhibition at the Mendel and your various gatherings together. I thought it was about time to say hello. >> Welcome to the JMDL list and don't be shy. Come on in, doors open. Listen... Strains of Joni Mitchell coming thru' the Nokia...... Sacrilege, I know.... but can you resist? Now this is a new one on me. hmmm Maybe it's time to get the car phone recharged. :~) For sure my coworkers will think I'm twisted. Again welcome aboard, hope to hear more from you soon. Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:56:55 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... tag .... i've only purchased 3 lately: 1. k.d. lang - invincible summer 2. bela fleck and the flecktones - outbound 3. brian auger - voices of other times all of which i recommend highly. Heather - who should be studying! At 06:26 PM 10/2/00 -0400, Ricw1217@aol.com wrote: >can i play too? ok, let's see... > >1. rickie lee jones, its like this >2. madonna, music >3. emmy lou harris, red dirt girl >4. sarah harmer, you were here >5. paul simon's you're the one (getting it tomorrow!) > >the top of the heap, in my ever so humble opinion is my former namesake, >rickielee. soon to be displaced by one of my music gods, monsieur simon, but >i'm getting prophetic, since it has yet to be released! > >speaking of sarah harmer, anybody ever hear of her? i was in starbucks, god >help me, and they had a rack of cd's for sale, one of which by ms. harmer. >their little blurb compared her to lucinda williams (with whom i am not >familiar) and JONI MITCHELL... > >ok, i thot. i'll bite. and its pretty good! there are two cuts on it i >really love (basement apartment and don't get your back up) and several >others i like alot. now, its true she's from canada (ontario) and she >writes and sings her own songs and the gender is right, but that is where the >parallel would have to end. nothing like ms. joni, (who is? go ahead, name >one...) but nevertheless, she's pretty good. its fun sometimes to take a >chance on a cd and have it turn out for the best. of course, taking a chance >and feeling like a chump is not quite as fun, (scud mountain boys, for >example...) but life is for learning... > >can't wait to get my paul simon cd!! out tomorrow, if anyone's interested. > >take care everybody! > >ric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:26:13 -0400 From: dsk Subject: Re: Mystery of Cat Stevens IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > It really isn't a mystery. He found religion and also was struck by illness. > But those who watched VH-1's "Behind the Music" show LAST night already know > that. And 20/20 claimed to have THE answer to what they called the mystery. And claimed to have the first interview with him since he left the music business. Guess you can't believe those promos. According to this show, he was ill with tuberculosis when he was 19, but in the interview he said it was when he almost drowned in the ocean that he promised to work for God if he survived. And soon after that his brother gave him a copy of the Koran and all Cat's questions were answered, and have been answered for the last 20 years. That's so intense, his seemingly unwavering spirituality. Rather intriguing to me. I'd call that the "mystery" of Cat Stevens. I did like hearing his music again too... it really is sweet. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:27:31 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: Mystery of Cat Stevens IVPAUL42@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/2/00 8:29:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > dsk11@bellatlantic.net writes: > > << For Cat Stevens fans or anyone curious about why he disappeared from the > music scene, the show 20/20 Downtown on ABC (in the U.S.) has a segment > on him tonight (the last 3rd of show). The promo claims to solve this > mystery. > > Debra Shea >> > > It really isn't a mystery. He found religion and also was struck by illness. > But those who watched VH-1's "Behind the Music" show LAST night already know > that. > > Paul I Paul... Once again, I am in awe of your ability to pay attention to detail. It leaves me speechless. Mags - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:01:39 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Embedded nuggets, was:Re: The significance of a centerpiece Andrew from Ottawa started me thinking with his post about THOSL: << Joni hints at the importance of Centerpiece, that 1958 nugget she so ingeniously includes in the song. >> What other songs have embedded nuggets that add texture and meaning to what she is already saying? I came up with: the rock-n-roll insert in "Blonde in the Bleachers." "Unchained Melody" insert in "Chinese Cafe" the other rock-n-roll insert in "This Flight Tonight" I had more to say about this, but I have two kids clamoring for dinner and it's time to have another chat with Chef Boy-R-Dee. MG np: "mom! .....Mom!.....MOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:22:47 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Janis My friends, I'll be in Chicago Tuesday and Wednesday for the baseball playoffs (I've waited my whole life to say those words!) so on Wednesday, 4 October, I won't be here to post my reminder of the passing of Janis Joplin, 30 years this year. I still get a tear in my eye. "If you can get them once, man, get them standing up when they should be sitting down, sweaty when they should be decorous, smile when they should be applauding politely... and I think you sort of switch on their brain, man, so that makes them say: 'Wait a minute, maybe I can do anything.' Whoooooo! It's life. That's what rock and roll is for; turn that switch on, and man, it can all be." "Man, if you got it today, you don't want it tomorrow, cause tomorrow never happens." (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:43:56 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Tony Green (SJC) Leslie wrote: "On the last day of our New Orleans JoniFest Voyage I read about a musician named Tony Green. This from the liner notes of his CD, "Gypsy Jazz": "As a guitarist growing up in America in the late '60s and '70s you'd expect Green to worship at the feet of Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page or John McLaughlin. Far from it. Tony's idol is of all people the Belgian gypsy jazz giant Django Reinhardt". You can add Steve and myself to the list of people who idolize the guitar artistry of Django Reinhardt. On the way to lunch and then the airport with Michael Paz, we made a quick stop at Tower Records and I picked up Tony's CD. The first paragraph of the liner notes reads: "It's not uncommon for creative people to have more than one outlet for their muse. Musicians as diverse as Felix Mendelssohn, George Gershwin, Tony Bennett and Joni Mitchell could all paint for instance." Gypsy Jazz by Tony Green, highly recommended." Hi Leslie- Tony is indeed a wonderful artist twice. His visual art is growing (much like Joni's) more each year. He is the toast of New Orleans and in Europe (as I understand). He has been on jukebox a couple of times but has not had good performances because I whink our format was a little too rushed for him. Being a live show we are always crazy and rushing around re micing things etc. He is always all acoustic usually 2 gtrs and upright bass, and it has been hard to get things just right for him. i love his stuff and have been friends with him since we were both in college at USL in Lafayette when I had a bush (as a opposed to a ponytail) and he had hair down to the middle of his back and was playing all the latest riffs by Page, Hendrix, et al. I wish I would have asked him to do something for Jonifest, but alas the show as 6 hours long already and there still wasn't enough time. Thanks for supporting New Orleans music. Paz NP-All of You (Alternate Take) by Cole Porter-Miles Davis/John Coltrane Columbia Complete Recordings 1955(a VERY Good year)-1961 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:01:07 -0700 From: Steve Mixon Subject: Topsfield mp3's are up Hi, folks, I have posted everything (except some fragments) I recorded at Topsfield, Newburyport and Atty May's to the web page www.torchsongs.com/music/index.html - as mp3 files. The list now includes: Angel from Montgomery , led by Victor at Atty May's Three songs of Claudia's, from Attys and Newburyport Conversation, sung by Claudia The Gallery, with Chuck E., Leslie and Claudia Girl from the North Country, played by Leslie and Steve at Newburyport Sweet Blindness, Chuck E. and Leslie You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio, Claudia at Atty May's And When I Die, Chuck E. and Leslie at Newburyport Who Knows Where the Time Goes, Claudia at Atty's Judgment of the Moon and Stars, Leslie and Victor, Sunday morning at Ashara's Y'all give a listen, and let me know what you think. Cheers, Steve Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:58:18 -0400 From: "Stephen Epstein" Subject: Re: Embedded nuggets, was:Re: The significance of a centerpiece Another that comes to mind is fromChalk Mark in a Rainstorm- A Bird that Whistles- with the arrangement of Corrina, Corrina. I know there are more! Stephen in Vancouver NP: Elvis Costello- Spike MGVal@aol.com on 10/02/2000 07:01:39 PM Please respond to MGVal@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org cc: (bcc: Stephen Epstein/Agmont) Subject: Embedded nuggets, was:Re: The significance of a centerpiece Andrew from Ottawa started me thinking with his post about THOSL: << Joni hints at the importance of Centerpiece, that 1958 nugget she so ingeniously includes in the song. >> What other songs have embedded nuggets that add texture and meaning to what she is already saying? I came up with: the rock-n-roll insert in "Blonde in the Bleachers." "Unchained Melody" insert in "Chinese Cafe" the other rock-n-roll insert in "This Flight Tonight" I had more to say about this, but I have two kids clamoring for dinner and it's time to have another chat with Chef Boy-R-Dee. MG np: "mom! .....Mom!.....MOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:11:09 -0600 From: evian Subject: Hearing Joni in the Store Hey again kids, Just thought I would mention, to Canadians, that Winners ALWAYS has Joni playing whenever I am in there. I caught "Conversation" the other day, and of course I was singin' and swingin' and gettin' merry like Christmas! Also, next day, I was in Edmonton, in the West Ed. Mall Waterpark, and I was in the wave pool with my father-in-law, watching someone bungee jump when all of a sudden on the sound system, on came "How Do You Stop?". Well, of course, I immediately get all excited, slap my father in law in the chest and almost knock the wind out of him, and bellow, "OMG, they are playing Joni! Hooooooweeeeeeee!" Then he just kinda looked at me while I said "Going to the hot tub to get a better listen." Hmmmm, y'all think maybe I need to get out more? LOL, you know you are a Joni freak when you try to listen to her in a public place, even though you could go home and throw the damn album on! Evian p.s. -- Walmart also is a good place for Joni -- Heard Court and Spark TWICE this year whilst buying Tide and toilet paper! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:43:35 EDT From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: RE: 5 most recent purchases 1. Miles Davis: Nefertiti 2. Ry Cooder: Boomer's Story 3. Belle and Sebastian: Fold your hands child, you walk like a peasant 4. Charles Mingus: the Black saint and the sinner lady 5. John Cale: paris 1919 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:53:19 EDT From: "Blair Fraipont" Subject: Top 15 joni songs I know this sounds sort of pointless.. to make a small list of such a massive and expansive catalog.. but lately (during laspes in my classes) i have been thinking about What would i say if someone asked me what my favorite Joni song was or my top 10?? so, i have been narrowing it down..and this is what i have got. Top 15 Favorite Joni songs (This may change again and again..as all top 10 lists do) (hee hee) 1.Cotton Avenue 2.My old Man 3.Hejira 4.Don Juan's Recklass Daughter 5.Stay in Touch 6.Goodbye Porkpie Hat (Shadows and light version) 7.Carey 8.Beat of Black Wings 9.Dry Cleaner from Des Moines (shadows and Light version) 10.Tea Leaf Prophecy 11.Just like this train 12.Edith and the kingpin 13.Moon at the window 14.Silky Veils of Ardour 15.Sire of Sorrow Blair NP: see you sometime _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:01:44 +0300 From: "Vadim Litvin" Subject: Re: 5 recent purchases... 1) Lene Lovich - Flex (1979) (she is the phenomena) 2) Propaganda - A Secret Wish (1985) (German avant-gardists) 3) Rockets - Atomic (1980) (French/Italian synth/space-rock band) 4) Nina Hagen - Bee Happy (1996) (you know who she is... I think) 5) Suzi Quatro - Oh, Suzi Q (Germany only released not a compilation album from 1991) vad ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #385 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?