From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #382 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, September 30 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 382 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Rea and Joni: Old Friends [Scott Price ] Re: All-Joni Mitchell program at JUDY'S CHELSEA [Robert Holliston ] Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends [JRMCo1@aol.com] CDtree [mdc22@cam.ac.uk] Re: H. Diltz Exhibition in San Diego ["Kakki" ] Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends ["Kakki" ] white house on jmdl [m.harmssen@t-online.de (m.harmssen)] Re: white house on jmdl [MDESTE1@aol.com] Ronstadt does "River" [Marksa973@aol.com] No Regrets Coyote ["Robin Mathews" ] Emmylou's band (SJC) ["Steve" ] DJRD, Not too Fast, Robin! ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] Re: Joni's stockings ["Reuben Bell" ] Re: No Regrets Coyote [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: All-Joni Mitchell program at JUDY'S CHELSEA [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: white house on jmdl [catman ] no-one knows I'm here ["william" ] WOHAM ["william" ] Woke up, it was a Joni morning! ["Andrew Ritchie" ] misc music & another GREAT concert ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: white house on jmdl [catman ] Re: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! [Heather ] URGENT VIRUS ALERT!!!!! THIS IS NO HOAX [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: white house on jmdl [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: white house on jmdl [Relayer211@aol.com] re: No Regrets Coyote ["c Karma" ] re: No Regrets Coyote ["c Karma" ] Re: URGENT VIRUS ALERT!!!!! THIS IS NO HOAX [Ken ] Re: Joni's Stockings ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Vinyl hiccups ["c Karma" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:55:09 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Rea and Joni: Old Friends Thanks to a heads-up posted here on the JMDL, I was able to catch up with David Rea this evening at a small club in Kingston, Wash. We arrived 10 minutes before the appointed starting time of 7:30 p.m. only to find out the show didn't really start until 8:30, but it worked out fine because Rea made his appearance shortly after we did and this enabled my wife Shawn and I to spend a considerable bit of time chatting with him...we were nearly the only people in the whole place! Rea met Joni in Toronto in 1964 while both were fledgling singer-songwriters. Other notables around the scene at that time were Ian & Sylvia, Gordon Lightfoot, and Neil Young. David Rea's latest CD, "X7," utilizes some early Mitchell illustrations for the front and back cover art. When asked about it, he said he had numerous Joni originals, "a house full," and when another idea for the cover art fell through, he decided to ask Joni for permission to use some of these old drawings, to which she readily consented..."they're YOURS to do with what you want," she reportedly told him. When asked how he ended up in Washington State, Rea told us he was travelling through this far northwest corner of the U.S. with a companion in a motor home when he met a woman and the motor home ended up being parked for three days outside her place. When his travelling companion grew restless, Rea told him to take the vehicle and continue on without him. Rea later flew back to California and "loaded up the Volvo with all his Joni artwork and everything else he owned." He found his way back to the Northwest and has been here ever since. Rea said that Joni would stop by his apartment in Toronto and ask him for guitar lessons. This was when she first began with the guitar, having started with a baritone ukulele. He said he always refused her, politely, because he could sense that she was already developing a unique style and didn't want to mess with it. After she got her first Martin (guitar) he said they worked out some open tunings, and he once shared the stage with her at the Mariposa Folk Festival. He described her as "very rigid" when it came to performing back then, implying that her style did not lend itself to other musicians providing accompaniment. The performance tonight was polished, one that Rea has undoubtedly done countless times over the years. I would characterize him as a quintessential folk singer, reminiscent of Seeger and Guthrie, with obvious country and blues influences as well. He plays with a thumb pick on his strumming hand and employs this pick on the lower strings while plucking the higher strings with his other fingers. He slid a capo up and down the neck for nearly every song and skillfully used a bottleneck slide during a gritty blues number. His comfortable vocals emote the full range from humor to sadness, but in the folk tradition, usually leave the audience feeling upbeat. It all added up to a very fun evening...ultra-small venue (six tables only)...great dinner and wine...and plenty of "Joni content." :-) Scott ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:04:29 -0700 From: Robert Holliston Subject: Re: All-Joni Mitchell program at JUDY'S CHELSEA Hey David! Sounds like an awesome program, and I just wish (as I do at least a thousand times a day) that I lived in Manhattan and could just stroll down to Judy's Chelsea (such a fun, intimate, wonderful venue) to catch your show. I have such affectionate memories of my evening there earlier this year, when Patrick, Kay and I caught your amazing tribute to Dorothy Fields. In bocca del lupo for a wonderful show - I'll be thinking of you!! Manhattanites, this is not to be missed!! all the best, Roberto ps - David: How do you feel about the possibility of this ending up on a JMDL tape/CD tree? Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > I'm going to be accompanying a pretty good jazz singer, Mitch Ellis, in an > all-Joni program: we are rehearsing > > Sunny Sunday Coyote In France They Kiss on Main Street Refuge of the > Roads > Cherokee Louise Raised on Robbery All I Want I Don't Know Where I Stand > Chelsea Morning > > Dave Ruffels will be on bass. > > The schedule is: Tues. Oct. 17 at 8:30 > Thurs. Oct. 19 at 11:00 > Tues. Oct. 24 at 8:30 > Thurs. Oct. 26 at 11:00 > > JUDY'S CHELSEA is at 169 8th Avenue between 18th & 19th Streets; the phone # > is (212) 929-5410. > > I played "The Surrey with the Fringe on Top" for a singer in the piano bar > tonight. The "Coyote" intro vamp worked perfectly. How about that? > > DAVID > LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:38:26 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Joni's stockings At 9/28/2000 06:59 PM, Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > how many stocking referances are there in Joni's songs?there's "All I >want",where Joni wants to reck her stockings in Jukebox dive and "help me" >where she has a hole in her stocking.are there any others? The Last Time I Saw Richard: "And a bar maid came by in fishnet stockings and a bow tie" Judgement of the Moon and Stars: "Long silk stockings on the bedposts of refinement " Les - always looking for an opportunity to use the lyric search engine at www.jmdl.com/lyrics ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:48:37 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends Scott writes: << Thanks to a heads-up posted here on the JMDL, I was able to catch up with David Rea this evening at a small club in Kingston, Wash. >> Scott, Thanks for the fabulous report on the David Rea gig. You captured it beautifully with your prose. This jmdl is the best thing going, and how we complete each other with discoveries, threads and fruition of sweet music and lengendary muscians continues to astound and delight me. I appreciate such delicious and unbiased detail. I daydreamed of what life and times Joni and David must of shared in the 60s golden days when I found her early art on his CD cover. Reading your review, the mysteries unraveled. And thanks to kakki for calling the Washington Rea/JMDL connection...great how we tend to cover all the bases around here on these things. Thanks to David Rea for keeping on with the music. And love to Joni as always for being. Rea's CD will soon be mine. Now lets see those Joni canvases David's got... :-) - -Julius N.P. "Woodstock" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:54:05 +0100 From: mdc22@cam.ac.uk Subject: CDtree Hi I am a reletive newby to this game. Are there any British fans out there? and can anyone get me started on a CDtree I am paticularly interested in Hissing outakes. Thanks in advance. Myke. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:54:26 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: H. Diltz Exhibition in San Diego Lindsay wrote: > An Exhibition and sale of photographs by > Henry Diltz ... September 21-24 in Del Mar. And here it is ... uh, > September 27. Drat, I say! (Well, okay, I said something worse.) But > then I spied the following: "Sept. 29 - Oct. 1 at the Debra Owen Gallery, > 3545 11th Ave. in downtown San Diego, for more info call 760-942-4744." > The bad part is he was at the opening in Del Mar on Sept. 21. The good > part is admission is free. If anyone in this area wants to jaunt down > there on, say, Saturday, please email me off list. Lindsay, I meant to alert you but time slipped away from me. I'm so glad you noted it. I wanted to make it down for the Del Mar show and have a hankering to come down for the Friday show at the Debra Owen Gallery where Henry will be narrating his "Slide Show" as a benefit for Monarch High School. I hope you can go to the Friday show and hear his personal stories - he is so charming and you will flip over his gorgeous photographs. Steve, Craig, et al - who will brave the Friday night traffic for this one? ;-) I'm sorely tempted to !! Kakki NP: CPR - One For Every Moment - Live at the Coach House - San Juan Capistrano '99 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:03:21 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Rea and Joni: Old Friends Julius wrote: > Thanks for the fabulous report on the David Rea gig. You captured it > beautifully with your prose. This jmdl is the best thing going, and how we > complete each other with discoveries, threads and fruition of sweet music and > lengendary muscians continues to astound and delight me. I was so thrilled to read that Scott had trundled on down to Kingston to catch the show! Great review Scott! Thank you Juliius for turning us on to this to begin with. What a fantastic connectioni! I have spent many a cozy time over the past 20 years in the Main Street Ale House in Kingston where Rea plays waiting for the ferry on my way back and forth to visit my "second family" in the area. I wish I could have been there last night but the good news is that we now know Rea is a regular there so......I will have something very special to look forward to next time! ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:03:00 +0200 From: m.harmssen@t-online.de (m.harmssen) Subject: white house on jmdl well, people, honestly I think RELAYER's report on his visit of the W.H. is the funniest thing I read in a long time -not only on JMDL - we should all be tempted to join in a contest in order to render more fun to the posting in general- relayer- your post is a piece of art - FORREST GUMP should blush with inferiority and envy !!!!!!!! nobody objecting I would like to go ahead and hand out copies of the report to different people around that I know will have one of the laughs of their lives- this is so deeply American, all so positive - it should be turned into a short film > THE OTHER DAY AT THE WHITE HOUSE < has M.P.'s FLYING CIRCUS gone to the States ? If so, they should be in the film's cast definitely........... tears still rolling down michael in frankfurt/germany m.harmssen@t-online.de ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:55:43 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl I thought it was funny as well. Here are the Clintons denying forcefully that they are using the taxpayers money for purely political reasons, villifying all those who claim otherwise and yet the White House is clearly being used massively for compensating fundraising purposes. Not to mention the fact that the plane and entourage needed to return the First Senate Candidate from New York back to the White House and then back to the campaign trail is not even considered although the GAO has estimated that the First Senate Candidate from New York has racked up 3 1/2 million dollars in just costs for the planes for which the First Senate Candidate has reimbursed the taxpayers $3500 (hundred) dollars. So its nice to actually have a witness to and description of whats really going on in spite of all the denials. The magnitude of the arrogance of the Clintons is absolutely breathtaking. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:29:27 EDT From: Marksa973@aol.com Subject: Ronstadt does "River" If you want to hear Linda Ronstadt's version of "River", you can go to www.elektra.com and listen to it. It's from her upcoming Christmas album. You can also hear her do a duet with Rosemary Clooney on "White Christmas", plus she does "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas." Linda's version of "River" is more orchestrated than the original version, but her phrasing is remarkably similar to Joni's. So many people have covered this song, it's nice to see yet another treatment. You can hear the whole song on the Elektra site too, not just a few seconds of it. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:03:02 +0200 From: "Robin Mathews" Subject: No Regrets Coyote Well only that it's taken me 24 years to listen to Hejira. My package arrived today from Amazon.com proudly proclaiming that it was Digitally Remastered with High Definition Compatible Digital and containing complete Full Colour Original Art all for the special price of $11.99! I have been into Joni since 1970, but until I started lurking some 6-7 months ago I have been isolated in my own Joni world. I bought her early LP's (age showing) but for some reason missed the albums between HOSL and CMIRS. With all thats been said on the list in recent times about Hejira it had to be special for the first time - so out came the portable CD player and into a darken room. I was not disappointed from the moment of No Regrets Coyote to the last fading notes of Refuge of the Roads - Bliss, sheer Bliss. The album gives the impression of movement, lost love and escape with the hope of a reunion. Hejira makes me reminisce about a Greyhound journey around the States in 1970 - yes I even did the Staten Island ferry ride too. Thanks to everybody for helping me to understand and appreciate Joni's work, its so difficult out there in the wilderness, until one day I aimlessly typed Joni Mitchell in Yahoo to find Wally's JM.com and now I'm connected with so many kindred spirits. Now for a big decision - do I rush to listen to DJRD that arrived in the same package or do a I wait a few days listening to Hejira, after all its only been 23 years since DJRD was issued ! Robbie Alcalali, Alicante, Spain NPIMH - Why did I wait 24 years ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:08:48 +0100 From: "Steve" Subject: Emmylou's band (SJC) MDESTE1 wrote a very eloquent review of his visit to see Emmylou at the Fillmore, I saw Emmylou for the first time at Hopetoun House,near Edinburgh just last month and can vouch for everything he says. If Emmylou plays at a venue near you then she's well worth the effort to go to see. Her band members Buddy Miller and drummer Brady Blades were both members of Steve Earles' sometime band "The Dukes". I assumed the bass player was Darryl Johnson who apparently has left Emmylous' band, Spyboy. (Steve Earle watched Emmylou's entire set from the wings, she had duetted with him earlier in his set). I didn't catch the name of the bass player at the show ,so it could have been Brady Blades brother, their rapport was heavenly, with an absolutely stupendous duet on drums and congas. His bass playing was amazing and reminded me instantly of Jaco Pastorius both in tone and style. Quite often at a gig instead of being in the crowd "watching" the performers, the music is so powerful it just sucks you in and lifts you onto a higher plane (it does to me-no drugs honest) and you actually FEEL part of it.This happened a few times during Emmylous set such was the quality of the perfomance. It made me wonder how I would feel to be in the crowd at a similar Joni concert, I can still remember such moments at my only Joni concert to date at Wembley 74. I'd probably be "high" for weeks. Steve......the impossible dreamer........ ......sweet dreams are made of this ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:13:42 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: DJRD, Not too Fast, Robin! Robin wrote : "Now for a big decision - do I rush to listen to DJRD that arrived in the same package or do a I wait a few days listening to Hejira, after all its only been 23 years since DJRD was issued !" My advice would be to let "Hejira" sink in for a few... I absolutely adore DJRD, but it's an entirely different affair, and with Hejira so fresh in mind, it might get sold a little short. DJRD is a little more risque, a bit more of an experiment; some critics feel it should have been edited to one record, as it was 2 when it first arrived. Musically, it's busier than Hejira, conceptually - wilder. She was really off on a tangent for this one, a bizarre chapter in the Joni files, and one that I'm obsessed with. Enjoy! -Chris. NP: "A Case of You" - Brian Kennedy; gorgeous! ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:20:11 -0400 From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: Joni's stockings Slightly related, so I'll throw it in... "Mama's nylons underneath my cowgirl jeans..." from "Song to Sharon." Reuben Reuben Bell Events and Public Relations Coordinator Glencairn Museum Bryn Athyn, PA www.glencairnmuseum.org >>> Les Irvin 09/28/00 09:38PM >>> At 9/28/2000 06:59 PM, Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > how many stocking referances are there in Joni's songs?there's "All I >want",where Joni wants to reck her stockings in Jukebox dive and "help me" >where she has a hole in her stocking.are there any others? The Last Time I Saw Richard: "And a bar maid came by in fishnet stockings and a bow tie" Judgement of the Moon and Stars: "Long silk stockings on the bedposts of refinement " Les - always looking for an opportunity to use the lyric search engine at www.jmdl.com/lyrics ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:25:25 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: No Regrets Coyote <> That's a great capsulized summary, Robbie...it's that and MUCH more, I'm sure you'll find buried treasure every time you listen to it! In the meantime, don't delay with DJRD, or Mingus, where you'll discover the total fruition and peak of her jazz singing! And by the way, a belated welcome to the list, looking forward to your takes on the other "new" Joni records! Bob NP: Stan Ridgway, "Gumbo Man" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:35:49 EDT From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Re: All-Joni Mitchell program at JUDY'S CHELSEA In a message dated 9/29/00 3:32:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << I'm going to be accompanying a pretty good jazz singer, Mitch Ellis, in an all-Joni program: we are rehearsing Sunny Sunday Coyote In France They Kiss on Main Street Refuge of the Roads Cherokee Louise Raised on Robbery All I Want I Don't Know Where I Stand Chelsea Morning Dave Ruffels will be on bass. The schedule is: Tues. Oct. 17 at 8:30 Thurs. Oct. 19 at 11:00 Tues. Oct. 24 at 8:30 Thurs. Oct. 26 at 11:00 JUDY'S CHELSEA is at 169 8th Avenue between 18th & 19th Streets; the phone # is (212) 929-5410. >> Hi David! I'm very interested in hearing your show. Any word on ticket prices or drink minimums? : ) tanya in nyc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:37:24 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: white house on jmdl I don't think Relayers post on his exciting day should be used to score points for your particular political leanings. If I was Relayer,, I'd be feeling pretty pissed by now. The effect to me, is like pissing all over his great day. bw colin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:50:44 +0700 From: "william" Subject: no-one knows I'm here One day I'll just disappear. Below my window. With a view. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 01:33:35 +0700 From: "william" Subject: WOHAM ........win your medals fuck your strangers .... ......a little passion .... Joni says the four letter word four times throughout her albums if I'm not mistaken. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:51:59 EDT From: "Andrew Ritchie" Subject: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! Hello all! I'm from Ottawa, Canada and a journalism student who is in love with the art and music of Joni Mitchell. At 23, I should fall into the hip-hop-loving, rock-star-adoring demographic of music lovers, but I happen to share Joni's disdain for the current state (or non-state) of today's music. With the exception of a few excellent musicians, including Joni, there is a derth of talent out there and it's very noticeable. I discovered Joni when I was 15 with the release of the immaculate "Night Ride Home," marking her triumphant return to introspection. That album got quite a bit of radio play on CBC Radio 1 and I fell in love with that deep, husky voice singing about love, life and liberty. I explored her past with zeal and devotion and came out of it loving classic albums like "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns", "Hejira", and "Blue." Brilliance ebbs from every line on these records and I knew that I was listening to a formidable intellectual and a die-hard artist with a vision. I look forward to getting to know you all and participating in the discussions. Cheers from Ottawa! - -Andrew _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:15:15 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl I don't want to go off on a rant here, but the cynicism of a couple of the replies to relayer's White House post is disheartening to me, to say the least. That sunflower sized "Bush for President" button of yours might as well be as large as the Sun itself, marcel. Cry if you want to, michael in frankfurt, but what's your point? Is "positive" an amusing concept in Germany? I fail to grasp the derisive humor you seem to have found in what appeared to me to be an entertaining and, largely apolitical, up close and personal tour of the White House for we jmdlites. I'm all for a reasoned discussion of the pros and cons of America's current First Family, but I find it unconscienable that one would take a well-intentioned informative post completely out of context and use it as a launching point for scathing partisan offensives. That sucks. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:41:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's stockings - --- Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > > > how many stocking referances are there in > Joni's songs?there's "All I > want",where Joni wants to reck her stockings in > Jukebox dive and "help me" > where she has a hole in her stocking.are there any others? ... a bar maid came by in *fishnet stockings* and a bowtie ... Mama's *nylons* beneath my cowgirl jeans That's all I can think of now - and it reminds me... time to stock up on stockings! _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:33:55 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: misc music & another GREAT concert Thanks for the EmmyLou Concert review Marcel. I love EmmyLou & listened to her endlessly during the 1980s. Kind of how I used to listen to Joni endlessly during the 1970s. She is both beautiful & a great musician. A class act. Someone said that Buddy was her band leader which surprises me because every time I have seen her in the past she was always the band leader with whoever she was playing with. I know this has surprised some people I know. Maybe this is because of her stunning beauty & ethereal voice quality that some don't expect her to be that good of a musician. But she is. Dar Williams is a great songwriter. I especially love her songs, "The Babysitter" & "When I Was a Boy". She is a very unique & enjoyable performer. I recommend going to her show. I have seen her a couple of times. She is funny & charming as a person too. Thanks for the Mark Knopfler album review (sorry I forgot who did it). Nobody moves me like Mark Knopfler when it comes to the guitar. Another class act. I just saw one of the best concerts in my life last night. And I have seen my share of great ones (Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Joni, countless Bonnie Raitt, Bob Marley, Woodstock, to name a few). Last night it was Neil Young at the SB County Bowl. That man is the living example of a musician who just gets better with age. He plays guitar like a man possessed. I don't think I have ever experienced anyone who is so pure & connected to the muse, with the exception of Bob Marley. I have never seen Neil live without CSNY (many decades ago) so am not sure if he has always put 1,000% into his concerts the way he did last night. As a musician, he has inspired me to new heights that is for sure. I can't remember all the songs but the highlights were Helpless (I cried all the way through this one). Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, Cowgirl In The Sand (this went on for a half an hour with wave after wave of incredible guitar solos one after the other...the audience on their feet & screaming). When is the last time I screamed as loud as I could at a concert? Clapping just didn't cut it and screaming was the only way to give back the adequate response to his absolutely stunning performance. Boy is my voice hoarse today! Did anyone else see Neil on this tour? So far, from what I have heard from folks who have been is that it was one of those life altering experiences & I would concur. (I promise you, no drugs were involved though I did smell some pretty sweet stuff wafting about...). ******************************************** Kate Bennett featured this month at Taylor Guitars www.taylorguitars.com/artists/awp/indies/ www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 01:06:11 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: white house on jmdl JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > I don't want to go off on a rant here, but the cynicism of a couple of the replies to relayer's White House post is disheartening to me, to say the least. > > That sunflower sized "Bush for President" button of yours might as well be as large as the Sun itself, marcel. Cry if you want to, michael in frankfurt, but what's your point? Is "positive" an amusing concept in Germany? I am glad to see my radar wasn't completely off. I was appalled by both posts. I wonder if these two gave time out to think of anyone's feelings, like Relayers, but assume they are too busy thinking they are superior beings to bother about something so trivial as a persons feelings. It still astonishes me that people can be so self centred and show such lack of compassion. I hope it always will astonish me. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:22:59 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: Woke up, it was a Joni morning! Welcome Andrew!!! Nice to hear you are from Ottawa. I have tons of relatives there. Next time we are up there let's get together. We could go to Sparks St., have a cup of java and talk Joni :-) There is a music shop on Sparks St. that had Joni lyric books .... are they still there? Heather At 02:51 PM 9/29/00 -0400, Andrew Ritchie wrote: >Hello all! > >I'm from Ottawa, Canada and a journalism student who is in love with the >art and music of Joni Mitchell. > >At 23, I should fall into the hip-hop-loving, rock-star-adoring >demographic of music lovers, but I happen to share Joni's disdain for the >current state (or non-state) of today's music. With the exception of a >few excellent musicians, including Joni, there is a derth of talent out >there and it's very noticeable. > >I discovered Joni when I was 15 with the release of the immaculate "Night >Ride Home," marking her triumphant return to introspection. That album >got quite a bit of radio play on CBC Radio 1 and I fell in love with that >deep, husky voice singing about love, life and liberty. I explored her >past with zeal and devotion and came out of it loving classic albums like >"The Hissing Of Summer Lawns", "Hejira", and "Blue." Brilliance ebbs from >every line on these records and I knew that I was listening to a >formidable intellectual and a die-hard artist with a vision. > >I look forward to getting to know you all and participating in the >discussions. > >Cheers from Ottawa! > >-Andrew > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:17:39 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: URGENT VIRUS ALERT!!!!! THIS IS NO HOAX I need to get this message to everyone on this list so pardon the NJC. I received a virus alert this morning when opening an email attachment from someone on this list (WallyKai@interserver.com.ar) Wally honey you might be infected with this virus and no it isn't West Niles. (Joke) It had no subject line but it did have an attachment. The file attachment name was: MATRiX is OUT.scr. This is no hoax. Norton Anti-virus picked it up and warned me before the download was complete. Thank God! If your computers are shielded with an anti virus program, UPDATE YOUR DEFINITIONS NOW. Wally, you may be infected, so scan your computer now. Don't do as I did (half asleep) and download anything without first having the file scanned, whether you know the sender OR not. Hope all is well, Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:49:11 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl In a message dated 9/29/00 7:16:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, m.harmssen@t-online.de writes: << well, people, honestly I think RELAYER's report on his visit of the W.H. is the funniest thing I read in a long time -not only on JMDL - we should all be tempted to join in a contest in order to render more fun to the posting in general- relayer- your post is a piece of art - FORREST GUMP should blush with inferiority and envy !!!!!!!! nobody objecting I would like to go ahead and hand out copies of the report to different people around that I know will have one of the laughs of their lives- I object-and I find this post rude and very offensive.If your intention is to insult me,you have succeeded.I don't see what is so funny about my post...I may not be the best speller in the world.sue me.so what?please share what you find so funny.I don' t see the humour. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:59:18 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: white house on jmdl In a message dated 9/29/00 1:51:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, colin@tantra.fsbusiness.co.uk writes: << I don't think Relayers post on his exciting day should be used to score points for your particular political leanings. If I was Relayer,, I'd be feeling pretty pissed by now. The effect to me, is like pissing all over his great day. bw colin >> Thank you!!!! Pissed is a good word to describe how that post made me feel.I was asked by many people here to share my special day...as you can imagine,posts like that don't exactly make me feel welcome in sharing other special events.However,I know that this guy's rudeness is not the way most people here are.I have always found people here to be very warm and open minded,and usually very polite. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 03:15:24 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: re: No Regrets Coyote Dear Robbie, Congratulations on discovering the joys of "Hejira." I remember reading that "Hejira" was the album Joni gave to Georgia O'Keeffe (wow, I finally remembered the second "f") when she visited her. She must have been duly proud of it, and well she should be! To be properly retro though, you should wait the odd year and a half before playing DJRD, just to replicate the hell we old timers had to contend with waiting for the new release. I'll give you one heads up, though: prepare yourself for some radically different guitar technique! CC "If you got a place to go, you just have to go there." -- JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 03:33:22 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: re: No Regrets Coyote Dear Chris and Robbie, I may be wrong about this but I think the reason that DJRD was not released on one vinyl disc was due to the length of Paprika Plains. Since the song (piece?) was over 16 minutes, it made it difficult to configure the mix of songs to fit comfortably within the time limits of two sides of vinyl, the predominant media at the time. When remastered for CD, it easily came in within the 70 minute capacity of early CDs. Tee, hee: I loved stacking vinyl albums on the automatic changer (1/3, 2/4). Luckily in the case of DJRD, I was always up dancing at the end of Side 2...it made for a quicker flip! CC "I'm coming back, I'm coming back for more!" -- JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:54:19 -0400 From: Ken Subject: Re: URGENT VIRUS ALERT!!!!! THIS IS NO HOAX Dug up this from my virus software web site. http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/ Sorry for the length. Mtx (also known as Win32.Mtx, W32/MTX@mm, W32/Apology, W32/MTX and I-Worm.MTX) Win32. Mtx is a 32-bit virus that has worm-like behavior and drops a trojan. It uses an infection method called "entry point obscuring". This means that rather than executing the virus at the very start of an infected program (the "entry point"), it can patch the program at almost any point inside it's code. This is designed to make detection more difficult, and also means that the virus might not activate straight away when an infected program is run. For example, the virus may only activate when a particular function of the infected program is used. When the virus is run, it infects files in the Windows directory. Win32.Mtx then unpacks and drops its worm component twice in the Windows directory as files with the following names: "Ie_pack.exe" and "Win32.dll" A trojan file named "Mtx_.exe" is also dropped in the Windows directory, and the following registry key (which runs the trojan each time Windows reboots) is created: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\SystemBackup = \MTX_.EXE The trojan attempts to download and run files from a website which may contain other malicious programs. Next, the worm part is launched and creates a modified version of Wsock32.dll. It then overwrites the wininit.ini file with its own copy. The virus' wininit.ini file contains commands to replace the original version of Wsock32.dll file with its own when Windows reboots. Once the original version is replaced, the new Wsock32.dll intercepts information being sent (by the send() function) from the computer to the network. If it detects that an e-mail is being sent, it will immediately send a second e-mail to the same recipient. The second e-mail has no subject and no body, merely an attachment which is randomly picked from a list of names within the code (shown here in the same order as in the infected file): README.TXT.pif I_wanna_see_YOU.TXT.pif MATRiX_Screen_Saver.SCR LOVE_LETTER_FOR_YOU.TXT.pif NEW_playboy_Screen_saver.SCR BILL_GATES_PIECE.JPG.pif TIAZINHA.JPG.pif FEITICEIRA_NUA.JPG.pif Geocities_Free_sites.TXT.pif NEW_NAPSTER_site.TXT.pif METALLICA_SONG.MP3.pif ANTI_CIH.EXE INTERNET_SECURITY_FORUM.DOC.pif ALANIS_Screen_Saver.SCR READER_DIGEST_LETTER.TXT.pif WIN_$100_NOW.DOC.pif IS_LINUX_GOOD_ENOUGH!.TXT.pif QI_TEST.EXE AVP_Updates.EXE SEICHO-NO-IE.EXE YOU_are_FAT!.TXT.pif FREE_xxx_sites.TXT.pif I_am_sorry.DOC.pif Me_nude.AVI.pif Sorry_about_yesterday.DOC.pif Protect_your_credit.HTML.pif JIMI_HMNDRIX.MP3.pif HANSON.SCR FUCKING_WITH_DOGS.SCR MATRiX_2_is_OUT.SCR zipped_files.EXE BLINK_182.MP3.pif In addition, the replacement Wsock32.dll monitors the location of HTTP requests (web-browsing), and the address of e-mail recipients. The program will crash if it detects that the user is attempting to either access an anti-virus site or send e-mail to an anti-virus company. It detects this communication by searching for substrings and strings in the domain name from the following lists: NII. nai. avp. AVP. F-Se f-se mapl pand soph ndmi afee yenn lywa tbav yman wildlist.o il.esafe.c perfectsup complex.is HiServ.com hiserv.com metro.ch> beyond.com mcafee.com pandasoftw earthlink. inexar.com comkom.co. meditrade. mabex.com> cellco.com symantec.c successful inforamp.n newell.com singnet.co bmcd.com.a bca.com.nz trendmicro sophos.com maple.com. netsales.n f-secure.c F-Secure.c The virus contains the following ASCII text: Software provide by [MATRiX] VX team: Ultras, Mort, Nbk, LOrd DArk, Del_Armg0, Anaktos Greetz: All VX guy on #virus channel and Vecna Visit us: www.coderz.net/matrix Cleaning Instructions: 1.Please ensure that you have the latest virus signature files installed on your PC; 2.Open your antivirus program and configure it to detect and clean infected files; 3.Perform a full scan of the hard-disk; 4.Reboot your computer. RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > I need to get this message to everyone on this list so pardon the NJC. I > received a virus alert this morning when opening an email attachment from > someone on this list (WallyKai@interserver.com.ar) Wally honey you might be > infected with this virus and no it isn't West Niles. (Joke) It had no subject > line but it did have an attachment. The file attachment name was: MATRiX is > OUT.scr. This is no hoax. Norton Anti-virus picked it up and warned me before > the download was complete. Thank God! If your computers are shielded with an > anti virus program, UPDATE YOUR DEFINITIONS NOW. Wally, you may be infected, > so scan your computer now. Don't do as I did (half asleep) and download > anything without first having the file scanned, whether you know the sender > OR not. > > Hope all is well, > Rose in NJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:50:57 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Joni's Stockings In a different vein, "They're putting up stockings singing songs of joy and peace." I apologize if this is a repeat. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 06:11:43 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: Vinyl hiccups Posting earlier about experience with vinyl, I began to wax dreamily about instances where the medium used to amuse and infuriate. Bringing home a new LP was much the same as a new CD, all the excitement intact although the packaging made it more difficult to transport without bumping and bending the corners of the fragile cardboard. If you were adept, you could use a key or a penknife to slit the shrink wrap along the open edge to remove the record still leaving the wrap intact to protect the cover. Of course you'd never postpone the joy of opening a gatefold jacket. Remember sex without condoms? (Sigh.) Wider availability of those yuppie/audiophile clear vinyl jackets later provided better graphic prophylaxis. The waning years of the LP saw thinner cardboard sleeves more capable of causing deep paper cuts as well as thinner, poorer vinyl pressings. It is these sometimes poorer pressings that were probably the most infuriating thing about vinyl. It was not that uncommon to unwrap a new LP and upon its very first play, discover you had a lemon. I remember The Beatles' great Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band having an abysmal release due to pressing problems. The Monkees' "Headquarters", and Carole King's "Tapestry" also had indigestion, among many others. I had only one such problem with a new Joni record: my first day of release, cut school, run out and wait for the store to open, what do you mean you don't have it , please check in back, see I told you, keep the change gotta go, hold that bus please copy of "The Hissing of Summer Lawns." Back at home under the headphones, my eyes bugged out as if their lids were held open by toothpicks and my jaw fully distended to the shag carpet upon hearing "The Jungle Line" for the first time . My facial contortions began to subside as the intro to "Edith and The Kingpin" began , the walls and furniture again taking shape as I gradually returned to my bedroom in Queens and began to read along with Joni singing. I remember thinking how sophisticated and elegant her vocal was, and worried that it was going to go over my head so I started to concentrate harder, listening intently. That's when it happened. "Sophmore jive...jive...jive...jive...jive..." "NOOOOO." The tonearm wasn't moving! "...jive...jive...jive..." I ripped the stylus from the disc. My bedroom door flew open, Mom thinking the worst having heard only my cry. Her eyes narrowed as I shooed her away, "Sorry." Oh how I hated Asylum Records at that moment, and the record store, and the bus driver, (hormones make adolescents very unstable), and definitely Queens. I thought this couldn't possibly be happening, not on my new Joni record! I swore that I'd start saving immediately for a Fisher receiver with a Dual turntable instead of the crappy Lafayette all-in-one AM/FM/Phono combo I'd inherited. This microscopic plastic burr was all but ruining something I'd waited months for! Thinking that perhaps this wasn't an isolated incident( sometimes an entire first pressing was similarly afflicted), I set out to fix the problem by adding a small amount of weight to the tonearm. Reaching into my pocket, I exhumed all the spare change I could find and began my surgery. I would blast right through that little sucker. I considered myself the Christian Barnard of the wayward groove. My technique was reknown, I'd never lost a patient. Once the exact combination of coins was discovered, I needed only some scotch tape to secure them to the tonearm above the stylus for a few passes. It always worked. In life, we are sometimes limited by the strength of our resolve, the depth of our passion, misplaced priorities or jealous interference. But other times we are thwarted by the amount of flat area on the top of a tonearm upon which to balance change. This miniscule space coupled with the rake of the arm only allowed a maximum $1.37 (five quarters, two nickels and two pennies) a tenuous orbit above the spinning platter. It proved insufficient. I had purchased a record equipped with an invisible, miniature Hoover Dam. Thus began my tactile relationship with "The Hissing Of Summer Lawns." With a touch as light as it took to feel the embossing in the cardboard jacket for the African figures, I learned to dance with "Edith and The Kingpin." Whenever the needle approached the offending phrase, I would thus be summoned to the player and would apply a most tender tap straight down above the cartridge. If I was appropriately prompt, and with some finesse (perhaps the piano lessons helped), you'd never know there was a problem. If I left the room though, Joni would "jive" forever. Edith and I danced for two years until I left for college. I don't remember the break up...I guess we just lost touch. So this thread goes... Did you ever have a skip problem with a new Joni LP, and if so what was the hiccup? or What was the funniest/weirdest/spookiest/most annoying vinyl hiccup you can recall? CC "Anima rising, queen of Queens." -- JM _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #382 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?