From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #365 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, September 13 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 365 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Court and Spark ["Alan Lorimer" ] Reminder ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Fwd: [Fwd: when words fall from Joni Fest memories ...] ["mags woman" ] Re: previous posts ["Alan Lorimer" ] Classic Rock That Lives On For Readers [Leslie Mixon ] CD tree #1 grovel [Steven Barton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:48:20 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: Court and Spark To me the song is a reflection of the loss of direction many people have in modern society. The busker in the song represents many of those in society who drop out or just don't fit in or just go through life with no meaning or direction. They can't see their place in modern society and can see no way out. The busker has a vision of what the meaning of life is for him, he must share his life with someone, a woman to court and spark. It's a blinding flash of inspiration and he turns up on Joni's door full of the insight and understanding of the meaning of life. He has cleared his mind of the burden of guilt that shackles people in modern society. He explains his life to Joni but she is unable to leave her life in the city. I sent this previously but it didn't get through. It does follow on well from MG Val's last post though :) Alan http://www.hawleybeach.com Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:42:45 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Reminder Hello Just a friendly reminder When the subject is off-Joni can people please remember to mark it 'NJC' or 'njc' and NOT 'EN JAY CEE' as this defeats the purpose of the sub-list. Thank you for reading this. I know that this is really NJC but some of you are being naughty! :oD Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:49:00 EDT From: "mags woman" Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: when words fall from Joni Fest memories ...] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_588c_40ed_36f0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: pat holden >To: mags_woman@hotmail.com >Subject: [Fwd: when words fall from Joni Fest memories ...] >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:53:53 -0500 > > > >-- > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _~O > / /\_, > ___/\ > /_ >----------------------------------------- > _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ hands alike magnet and iron the souls _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - ------=_NextPart_000_588c_40ed_36f0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Envelope-to: pholden@iprimus.ca Delivery-date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:02:01 -0400 Received: from ppp-143.m2-6.hamilton.primus.ca ([209.90.170.143] helo=iprimus.ca) by mail2.tor.primus.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 13Y8cJ-0006vQ-04 for pholden@iprimus.ca; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:02:00 -0400 Message-ID: <39BBAFA0.F41A8D8B@iprimus.ca> Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:58:24 -0500 From: pat holden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pholden@iprimus.ca Subject: when words fall from Joni Fest memories ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Just home from a long and hectic day at work, have had dinns, and am now settling into the hope that my words will fall onto this page, allowing me to express at least some of what I feel about the Labour Day Fest weekend. First of all, to reiterate the chorus of everyone there, GO. Do yourself a favour and just do it. You will not regret it for one moment. The only regret I have is that it went by so quickly, and here I sit, one week later to the day, soaking in the memories and the feelings of surreal. As the Pazman said...I miss you all terribly..and I can concur with his wise words that I felt things I havent felt in years. So yea, let's get together and buy that house across from Asharas! Gratitude, love, friendship, kindred spirits, music, laughter, tears, joy...unspeakable joy...and as I said earlier this week, I feel that I have found a place where I belong..and for this I am eternally grateful. I know Im not alone in that feeling, I heard from others who feel/felt the same. And the ultimate question remains: how is this possible? One of the most moving highlights for me was meeting Anne Sandstrom. When you appeared, looking healthy and beautiful it rendered me speechless! It was fantastic to hear your voice, your words, both singing and speaking. That moment you shared with Brian and I on the porch at the church remains so special and precious to us. Anne, it was wonderful to finally give you that long promised hug and just so you know....I have a candle lit for you as I write...I continue to keep you in my thoughts every day, with hope for you. I can only begin to imagine what your life has been like through all the trials you faced..and I admire you so much. It was so moving to hear your story and to share hugs and encouragement. Im so glad that our support helped you through your difficult times. I continue to believe in the spirit and in the strength of all of us in this community and joni family who put forth hope even when the dragons seem so terrible and fierce. Thanks to Les for making 'us' possible...without your incredible and humble efforts to maintain the list, we would not be we. Words will never adequately express the gratitude I feel, and again, I know Im not alone in this one... we are indebted to you for everything you do for us. I am sure that there is a lot more work involved than any of us realize...so many things that you do that no one is aware of; thanks for that too. Ashara...oh wise, warm, wonderful Queen Bee....kindred spirit of Loreena, Joni and so much more. Your energy is amazing..your willingness to care for all of us in this way by sharing your home and heart...incredible! I can well imagine what it took to pull this off (again!) and it is with the warmest, deepest, heartfelt thanks that I draw attention to everything you did for all of us....from photos to gifts of prints to mega-Ashara-hugs to putting up with phone calls from the road, to opening your home and heart to us in the middle of the night...to looks of reassurance, knowing that you get it. All of it. Thank you for sharing the Mendel video and the bungee jumping video....whoa girl you are so brave!!! You are such a special woman, with such a generous heart. Thank you for Loreena too, it is beautiful ! I know there are countless things you've done for us in the way of preparations that we dont know about either...well, we noticed your hard work and we appreciate all of it. Sal is a saint, it was wonderful to meet him too and I want to thank him for his generosity as well. Maggie....wonderous magician of cookery...feeding our bodies, spirits and souls with all your culinary delights...and to allow us to take part in the preparations was so special. Thank you for everything, your kindness, your warmth, and especially for hanging in there for us when you werent feeling well. It was an honour to share counter space with you...Ive never had so much fun in the kitchen and it was special that you let us make the infamous Mags potato salad..all Canadian at that ;) Chuck...another magician....of the sound and musical kind. Chuck took to the keys and encouraged all of us to sing along. Another soul who puts so much into every detail....thank you for providing so much so that everything could run so smoothly. It was so sweet to listen to the story of how you courted your wife with Joni tunes...especially Case of You, a song which is so near and dear to my heart. Sorry we missed your band at Atty May's....all I can say is...next trip!!! Heather.....Im sorry we didnt get more time to talk...it was wonderful meeting you...thank you so much for the name tags..which really are little pieces of art....precious reminders of this joyous time shared by all of us. A wonderful way to make us feel so welcome and special...signifiers of special moments shared. I am so afraid I will leave out names or forget special moments...I will blame my old bat brain if I do ;)..... to my new found brothers and sisters....I will treasure and cherish each and every moment we shared. How I wish I could have had more time with you. To those of you who I was unable to speak with this time, I hope that will change on the next meeting. Jimmy my beautiful bro from Florida....you are the one who drew me into the jmdl crowd in the beginning, encouraged me to talk way back in April when I first joined..I was so shy (still am to a degree) to speak any of my stories and you cheered me on. You always checked in on me when I was too quiet on the list, which made me feel so special. Yes our conversations around Court and Spark remain ever precious to me as well. Thank you so much for your inscription. You are an amazing person and I wish you werent so far away from us! dont be surprised if we take you up on your offer to visit, specially since Brian loves to go on long drives ;) Thank you for your memorable hugs which have left an imprint on my heart. Bob Mueller..brother in joni....meister of CD land....thank you for everything...you know what I mean. You are a wonderful, kind, warm kindred spirit and such a good friend to us. Thank you for your kind words and for getting it. Wallistah...my passionate, beautiful buenos aires bro...Im still wearing my bracelet...I think I left my feather earrings at Asharas though :(( I dont think I will take off this bracelet any time soon, it holds the memories of so many incredible moments . You are a man of great spirit and heart and I must take this opportunity to thank you for holding my hand through rough times of late. It was a great joy to hear you sing too..your interpretations of so many tunes knocked me over. Nikki sweet Nikki....how wonderful to have the pleasure of meeting you and listening to your Joni stories. Thanks for making this such a special time for me, since it was my first Fest too...I still have the image of you hugging your guitar while sitting on the floor in the music room, playing and playing to your heart's content. Your views on Joni and life are so refreshing. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- - ------=_NextPart_000_588c_40ed_36f0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:50:08 EDT From: "mags woman" Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: the gushing of summer Fests ... part two ...] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_7f97_41cb_76bd Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: pat holden >To: mags_woman@hotmail.com >Subject: [Fwd: the gushing of summer Fests ... part two ...] >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:54:37 -0500 > > > >-- > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _~O > / /\_, > ___/\ > /_ >----------------------------------------- > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - ------=_NextPart_000_7f97_41cb_76bd Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Envelope-to: pholden@iprimus.ca Delivery-date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:30:47 -0400 Received: from dialin-134-92.hamilton.primus.ca ([209.90.134.92] helo=iprimus.ca) by mail4.tor.primus.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 13YupO-0002tG-07 for pholden@iprimus.ca; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:30:43 -0400 Message-ID: <39BE844D.621770AF@iprimus.ca> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:30:22 -0500 From: pat holden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pat holden Subject: Re: the gushing of summer Fests ... part two ... References: <39BE797E.6060DA6B@iprimus.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 mags wrote: > This is my next attempt to continue on with the > gushing that I feel inside my heart for all of you. > > Seeing the Fest pix up on the official Fest page is > bringing it all back to me...all I can say is what a > wonderful time we all had... again and again..if you > can find ANY way to get to Asharas next year....do > it!!!! You wont regret a moment of it. I promise. > > Julius, when I look at that pic of you in the grey > car, grey sweater..i see the light shining from your > face...this image captures 'you' and exemplifies what > I saw in you all weekend...beaming, smiling, light > hearted man of spirit and graciousness. warm kindred > spirit, it was wonderful to meet you and listen to > your stories. > > Victor....singing a song he IS the piano man.....wow > ... where are the words to express how i feel about > this renaissance man of the musical realm. Thank you > so much for countless hours and hours of song, guitar, > piano, voice, story....it was very special to finally > meet you Victor. Brian and I will enjoy your CD very > much..for years to come. Fond memories. Your energy is > amazing! > > The infamous and beauteous Lady of the Canyon > herself....Miss Kakki or Kaahhhkkkkiiiiiiiii oh how > wonderful it was to meet you finally! You are the > quintessential LA woman....such character and style. > One of the many highlights of this weekend of love and > community was when Ashara gave Kakki this most amazing > Martini clock and it suits so well. Thanks for making > the long trek ... we are all so lucky to know you. > Love all of your stories girl ! > > Bob Murphy....quiet , gentle soul with a big heart and > a wonderful sense of humour...your stories made me > laugh so hard. Thanks for everything..it was wonderful > to finally meet you...and thank you for doing all the > great captions for the Fest page. You are a warm > hearted man and we are so lucky you have joined our > family. Another brave heart first time Fester. :) > > When people refer to our very own Claud as an angel > when she sings, believe it...a woman of fine talent > and quiet strength ...her voice is to die for. Claud > you are an amazing woman and you certainly have left > us all on "claud9" ! I loved Conversation so much..it > was beautiful beyond words. One of my very favourite > songs. > > And speaking of song birds....Jenny....my my > myyyygooodnesss what a beautiful voice you have! I > loved hearing Bruce Cockburn...Canadian content thank > you thank you.....Jenny is definitely worth the > trip...everyone is..what am i saying?? Thanks to Erik > for joining us too! > > This is a lot harder than I realized......*sigh* just > so much emotion going on. > > Leslie Mixon, the girl from Brooklyn ;) and her > sweetie Steve....two very talented, gifted, wonderful > musicians who kept us all going throughout the > weekend. It was fun jam jam jamming with you Leslie > and Chuck too, on keys...fond , fond memories. Steve > makes mando playing look easy...trust me here, he's > amazing. His quiet presence just filtered through > everything that was going on. His melodies and > harmonies were woven through like fine tapestries .. > golden threads....delicious. > > The Pazman...Oh Michael it was so good to meet you > finally and to hear that everything was going as well > as can be expected with your Dad. I hold you both in > my thoughts still. Thank you so much for the feast of > shrimp and especially for burning the keys and the > midnight oil and for indulging me with chords of Sarah > MacLachlan. Possession has always been one of my very > favourite tunes and it was great to have an > opportunity to sing with you. Shy me wouldnt do it any > other way than into the wee hours with nearly everyone > gone to bed. It was a special time for me. You are an > amazing , gifted man of music, heart and spirit. thank > you so much for taking the time out to join us all in > the spirit of Joni . I see what Brian means by the > fact that the Fest would not have been the same > without you. Your presence is incredible. > > And speaking of men with presence....and > chocolate...none other than our very own King of > chocolate....John VanT. What a gentle giant of a man > you are. So tender and kind and fun and funny ! Thank > you for your kindness and support which I will > remember always. I do appreciate the protective spirit > of the Joni men. Another wonderful story teller at > that! > > Jody woman! You are a sweet and awesome kindred > spirit. You made me laugh so hard...and I just HAVE > to thank you for sharing in the girlie girl gigglies > of Saturday night...or should I say morning? ;) Thanks > for getting it!! By the way, Brian tells me that it > was so much easier for you to negotiate your way > around this year sans crutches ;)) > > Alison, kindred spirit of the email realm, good to > finally meet you and to hear your stories..at least a > part of them. Once again, the synchronicity is > astounding and I appreciate your perspective on > things. Thank you for sharing from the heart. > > Joe, you are a sweet, quiet wonderful man..wish we had > more time to talk. Same goes for Jeff....as I said > earlier....it was impossible to talk with everyone in > the way that I wanted to. MG, I hope we can talk soon. > My impossible dream to really get to know everyone in > one weekend...it's just not possible...so > Ashara....next year really really IS on isnt it???? > please please????? > > Patrick L....it was good to meet you and to hear your > views on Joni and feminism...hope to continue that > talk next year too. It was way too late to really do > that conversation justice. :))) Or should I say > early....see? It all depends on how you look at > things. > > To reiterate...to my new found family, my beautiful > brothers and sisters in Joni...if i didnt speak with > you, it was only due to the fact that it was > impossible this time for a number of reasons. I hope > you understand. I hope to change that next year or > sooner if the opportunity allows me to. I know Ive > missed out on some very special people and > conversations. To say that I have grown as a result of > finding this wonderful Joni family is an > understatement. > > And finally, last but not least, the greatest gift of > all in this whole Joni experience is the discovery of > the love of my life, my best friend Brian. Thank you > from the bottom of my heart for hours upon hours of > talk, support and love. You are truly special. You > have made such a difference in my life and I treasure > each and every moment shared. Always looking forward > to more. > > love to all of you, you are all very unique and > incredible people ... I am honoured to know you. To > all of you, as Brian says, welcome home. > > love, > Mags p.s....here's a good example of my old bat brain at work...nearly forgot to mention Catgirl and Walter sweeping in seemingly out of nowhere...what a wonderful woman you are Cat..beautiful voice and amazing guitar playing too....It was so good to touch base and to share synchronicities with you and Walter both. Much love and luck to you as you continue down your road together. Thank you for sharing your stories with us. > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _~O > / /\_, > ___/\ > /_ > ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- - ------=_NextPart_000_7f97_41cb_76bd-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:21:33 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: Sick Leave Wally: "Gees, you sound pretty crook mate! I hope you will be back downing a few cold ones soon" Translation from Australian to English: "I am very concerned about your health. I wish you a speedy recovery" Alan Lorimer http://www.hawleybeach.com/ Tasmania currently packing a food parcel to send to Colin! (Hope he likes baked beans) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:28:05 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: previous posts Apologies to all "Joni Only" listers. I forgot to mark my previous posts to indicate the lack of Joni Content. Alan (Feeling particularly silly, especially considering Jamie Zoob's polite reminder for all of us to remember these tags) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:59:57 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Subject: Classic Rock That Lives On For Readers Pop music critic Brad Kava (of the San Jose Mercury News) asked readers to tell him who they would pick if they had to choose one and only one classic rocker whose work would sound contemporary today. Some of the choices were: the Who, Eric Clapton, Muddy Waters, Jimmy Page, Neil Young, The Byrds and King Crimson. Among the lot is our Joni. Lisa Miller wrote the following: "Joni Mitchell is one of the few artists I know who has challenged and stretched herself and her audience with every album she has made. Sure they didn't all work, but what artist (visual, musical or written) produces genius every time? Unlike Hendrix who died before he could get stale, she has managed, year after year to write the best lyrics and very interesting music that always exudes an emotional honesty you can't find anywhere else." Included in the article is a Both Sides Now era photo, in between photos of Jimmy Page and Neil Young. Lisa, if you're lurking, they (the albums) all work for me :-) Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:22:41 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: I'm staying at the Whitehouse! I'm so excited! I'm going to be staying at the whitehouse in 10 days.I'm eating Dinner with the President and Mrs Clinton next Friday,then sleeping over at the White House.then I'm leaving Saturday morning.I'm really looking foward to this! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:32:07 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Classic Rock That Lives On For Readers Let's hear it for Lisa Miller; she nailed it right on the head. LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:40:09 -0700 From: Robert Holliston Subject: re: infirmary Ach! I sent a personal email to Wally - who was VERY sensible to carry extra health insurance - but that was before reading the subsequent posts. Dear Kakki, Maggie, and Mary Grace: I was shocked and sorry to read that you were brought down by this, too! What a f***ing horrible way to end a perfectly wonderful weekend! Sending lots of hugs and my very best thoughts! Ach yet again! love, Roberto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:01:55 -0700 From: Steven Barton Subject: CD tree #1 grovel Is there a kind soul who would have the time to make me a copy of the JMDL CD tree #1? I have a modest collection of mostly CSNY related stuff to offer in trade. Many thanks, Steve ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #365 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?