From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #363 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, September 11 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 363 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni moment [AzeemAK@aol.com] RE: Before the first snowflakes sail ["Pitassi, Mary" ] The joy of Joni [Kenny Grant ] re: Joni moment ["Catherine Coffey" ] Re: Joni moment LES KAKKI pls read [Kenny Grant ] Joni dines with her sisters [Slac ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:58:13 EDT From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Joni moment This is a bizarre one folks - one of my fellow UK listers may have beaten me to the punch, but here goes... I was home alone (boo hoo, get out the violins, etc etc) last night, and watching a programme called "The One Hundred Greatest TV Moments From Hell". As you may guess, it was a selection of all that is crass, cringeworthy, insensitive, disastrous, appalling and generally undesirable about the gogglebox, as voted for by viewers of Channel 4. In at number 56 was a 60s/70s (ie the days when telly programming didn't go on all night) phenomenon wherein transmission ended with a sanctimonious vicar giving us a sort of religious thought for the day. One of the clips showed Father Bloggs starting off with "I've looked at clouds from both sides now - and you know, life is a bit like that, blah blah blah...". Oh dear, I thought. Azeem in London NP: Colin Vearncombe, The Accused. Lovely album from the artist formerly known as Black ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 10:42:34 -0500 From: "Pitassi, Mary" Subject: RE: Before the first snowflakes sail John (NOT Richard Rice!) wrote: "So, what say we have a few 'mini' fests before the first snowflakes sail? For all us gals and guys here in the midwest, I think Madison Wis. would make for a perfect gathering site. The food in the town is excellent and we could make a group pillgrimage to the site where the Hejira photographs were taken. (I can't ice skate, but I would love to run about in black through a few feet of new fallen snow there!) So, what say gang...? Mary? Steve? Gang? Heck, maybe this time I might be able to talk Mike D. up from the Louie area to join in! (Someone should be able to play...) We could get Kerry to sing. --I can't bring cajun shrimp, but I make a mean chocolate pecan pie..." Me now: sorry I'm late in responding b/c I'm days behind on digests, but what a delicious idea! (I'm being influenced in my choice of adjectives by the mention of that sublime-sounding pie. . . .;-) ) John, how about you and I being "point people" for the planning of the first-ever Two Bald-Headed Days in November Jonifest in lovely Madison, WI? Perhaps I could do some sleuthing beforehand, get the skinny on the real Hejira story, and maybe even set up a meeting place for us at the Edgewater. I'm not available the first weekend in November or the weekend of Thanksgiving, but am free pretty much all the rest of the month. And heck, we could even have the gathering anticipatorily in October! Who's in?? Mary, in need of a pleasant distraction these days. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:18:24 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: RE: Before the first snowflakes sail I guess you can count me in, BUT my name is MARK not Mike and I don't live in the St. Louis area. I would love to see the Edgewater and maybe we could do a few poses on the lake? (provided it's frozen) At 10:42 AM -0500 9/10/00, Pitassi, Mary wrote: >John (NOT Richard Rice!) wrote: > >"So, what say >we have a few 'mini' fests before the first snowflakes sail? For all us >gals and guys here in the midwest, I think Madison Wis. would make for a >perfect gathering site. The food in the town is excellent and we could >make a group pillgrimage to the site where the Hejira photographs were >taken. (I can't ice skate, but I would love to run about in black >through a few feet of new fallen snow there!) So, what say gang...? >Mary? Steve? Gang? Heck, maybe this time I might be able to talk Mike D. >up from the Louie area to join in! (Someone should be able to play...) >We could get Kerry to sing. --I can't bring cajun shrimp, but I make a >mean chocolate pecan pie..." NP-The Slip, Me and Jerry/Golden Gate Bridge - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:18:22 -0400 From: "Marilyn Huggins" Subject: Miles of Aisles I finally received my Miles of Aisles CD yesterday to replace the tape that hit the dust! Anyway, wondering if anyone knew who Joni was referring to in the song "Love or Money"? Thought one of you experts might now. Marilyn (MA) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:50:31 +0000 From: Kenny Grant Subject: The joy of Joni was hanging out on a friend's boat last night. Thought it was gonna be a day trip, so brought very little music with me - sponeously grabbed Nina Simone, Sarah Vaughn, Herbie's Gershwin's World and the Joni concert at Camden, NJ on 6/2. If I knew we were leaving the dock and overnighting, I would have brought more... My friends retired early, but I stayed outside listening to tunes till about 2am. What flipped me out was that as Joni began singing Summertime on Gershwin's World, and got to the part "fish are jumpin'" - -- at that exact moment, a fish jumped about 15 feet away, it was eerie! Wish I brought Song To A Seagul with me. The brillance of side B really enunciates itself when you're out on a boat, anchored, late at night, sipping a drink and contemplating the sea. I was playing it in my head for a bit, and realized I barely knew any of the lyrics cause I hadn't listened to it in years. But I remembered a night about 15 years ago when I went on a "Cruise to Nowhere" sponsored by Soneybrook Univ. with a friend who attended there. I had it with me on my walkman, and walked over to an empty section of the boat just to be alone with myself and my music, and parts of it actually brought tears to my eyes while on the sea. Suddenly, I remembered that when I worked at 250 W. 54th street (a far cry from a "nice" building in NYC), around the corner from The David Letterman Theater, one of the girls walked into the office and was flipping out because Roberta Flack was in the elevator with her....and I put a twist on "Killing Me Softly" - just basically changing the pronouns, and started singing to myself: "I heard she had a good song, I heard she had a style, and so I came to see her and listen for a while, and there she was this older woman, a stranger to my eyes, stumming my face with her fingers, singing my life with her words, killling me softly with her song, killing me softly, with her song, telling my whole life, with her words, killling me softly, with her song...." With the exception of "a stranger to my eyes" - cause I've had the joy of seeing her perform about 7 or 8 times over the last 21 years - and cause self-portraits adorn most of her album covers - I just said "wow, it's amazing, if I change the pronouns, that songs abot Joni!!! -Kenny ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 15:45:04 PDT From: "Catherine Coffey" Subject: re: Joni moment There is a weekly column in our local paper called "Water Under the Bridge" that reprints old articles. I have never seen the word 'hejira' used before, outside of Joni: 75 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK - 1925 "Dull leaden skies, which continually threatened rain, started the annual hejira of vacationists from the seashore to the city at an early hour yesterday." (an exerpt in reference to the folks heading back inland after the Labor Day holidays) The Daily Astorian Cathy in Oregon (and thanks to everyone at Jonifest 2000 for sharing your pics & thoughts - we've got to get something going here on the west coast!) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:30:34 +0000 From: Kenny Grant Subject: Re: Joni moment LES KAKKI pls read Hey Cathy, total coolness. However, I'm relatively sure that Joni never saw this because in her "Painting With Words And Music" video, she described how she actually picked up the dictionary (which she claims to do very rarely) to search for the "right word." Joni defines "Hejira" as "an honorable" retreat" or "leaving the dream no blame." Hejira was the album that latached me into Joni in about '77 or '78 (actually I played side B 1st - the old vinyl days - Song for Sharon, I related to every lyric on that song on some plane), backtracked and contunued to following her career I remember being obsessed with the title "Hejira," her picture with the baret on the cover, and "knowing of" Joni Mitchell as in having heard the name b4 and knew she was an established musical artrtist. But I simply didn't know her work nor how it would enrich my life. Other than that, in my backtracking I discovered some of the "hits," and in m forwarding discoved ?could be" hits but the Mings project cost her dearly for years in terms of radio play. It's great to see that it's finally getting some recognition. Anyway, this album rested on my older sister's speakers on her bureau, and for like 2 weeks, every time I walked into her room it was staring me in the face till I finally grabbed it and put it on the turntable (excuse me, espicially Sherelle, for repeating this story many times:-). But back in those days, my Webster's dictionary said theat either he-jeer-ah or he-JI-ra were valid pronciations (and I always referred to it as He-JI-ra till meeting some JMDLRS in person several years ago who almost unanimously pronounced it he-JEER-ah. And why fight city hall, tho the name change took me a bit of time :-) Anyway, I remember vividly that my '78 Miriam Websters' dictionary defined Hejira, from the arabic, as "a flight, as in from danger." So I guess I never really "got" Joni's personally adopted definition till a couple of years ago. But the piece your local paper published from 1925 is not only intriguing to me and most of the list, but it would quite possibly fascinate Joni. Les, Kakki, you got a way to send it to her thru Jim, Robbie Corvalino, or other "mystical" means?? (no, Kakki doll, I'm NOT asking you to drop it in front of her house :-) I'm sure she'd get a kick out of seeing it used in a 1925 context. Best, -Kenny Catherine Coffey wrote: > There is a weekly column in our local paper called "Water Under the Bridge" > that reprints old articles. I have never seen the word > 'hejira' used before, outside of Joni: > > 75 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK - 1925 > > "Dull leaden skies, which continually threatened rain, started the > annual hejira of vacationists from the seashore to the city at an early > hour yesterday." (an exerpt in reference to the folks heading back > inland after the Labor Day holidays) The Daily Astorian > > Cathy in Oregon > (and thanks to everyone at Jonifest 2000 for sharing your pics & thoughts - > we've got to get something going here on the west coast!) > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:57:28 -0700 From: Slac Subject: Joni dines with her sisters Pat wrote: > ummm... there's only one little problem with > that idea... Joni HAS no peers!!! :o) Oh yeah?! We all have our strong suits ;~D Each and every one of us... Joni's just a man so WHY does she MOVE me? Be kind: Let her keep her feet on the greens so she doesn't have far to fall ;~) - -- Susan L.A. I am your angel ;~) HARLEY PARKING ONLY NP: Dylan "You're gonna make me lonesome when you go" BLOOD ON THE TRACKS ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #363 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?