From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #338 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, August 21 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 338 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The Joni Guy ["Alan Lorimer" ] Re: Ladies of the Canyon -- Who are they? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The Joni Guy ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Ladies of the Canyon -- Who are they? [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Stephen Stills ["P. Henry" ] re: Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free) ["c Karma" ] We Have A Winner, was, Re: $10 JMDL Fundraiser- McCartney Fans ["Jim L'] Re: Stephen Stills ["P. Henry" ] Re: Stephen Stills - ps ["P. Henry" ] The Canyon Ladies!! ["Christopher J. Treacy" ] New member - For Free [Steven Barton ] Re: Comfort in Melancholly/Shades of Scarlet [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: Amelia [RobSher50@aol.com] Re: Hello JMDL [RandyRemote ] Re: New member - For Free [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Stephen Stills - ps [jan gyn ] hinton book [jan gyn ] Joni in "100 Essential CDs" ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:43:02 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: The Joni Guy How many listers have received stuff ranging from Joni Concert Programs, to CD's from the Joni Guy? (Bob Muller) How about showing your appreciation for all the good work Bob does by sending him a postcard or something similar. He deserves them, and would really appreciate it. If you want to *really* surprise, thank him by giving him a call ;-) ps: The same should be said (and done) for all the other JMDL members who make the effort to copy tapes and CD's for fellow listers. This is a really easy way to show them how appreciated they are :-) Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 07:30:49 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Ladies of the Canyon -- Who are they? << Pardon me if this is a repeat question, but I'm new to the list and all the Joni info garnered off the website. >> Welcome to the list! Your question's a good one and hasn't been asked before as far as I can remember. Of course, that doesn't mean I know the answer, cuz I don't! :~) Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:03:38 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: The Joni Guy Hey Alan, What a sweet idea. My favorite JMDL keepsakes are the dozens of 'thank you' notes that people have sent in with their blank cassettes. As I've said before, I keep them attached to my refrigerator door with a magnet. Bob's Covers project is carefully mastered, a process that I used to take for granted. His CDs have never, ever skipped on my player. I intended to include a link to a picture of Bob but I can't reach Les' site just now. I'd also like to give a shout out, a thank you, send props to Simon, for tree-ing an amazing amount of stuff. Like many collectors, Simon's trees form the core of my Joni rarities collection. His unwavering attention to quality and detail, his artistic choices of recordings, even the superb technical quality of equipment, leave me with awe and gratitude. He's our one-of-a-kind, king of audience recordings. As an audiophile, I am amazed at the sound quality that Simon is able to achieve for us. Way to go, Simon. Thank you, thank you, thank you! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Lorimer" To: "Joni Digest" Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 5:46 AM Subject: Re: The Joni Guy > How about showing your appreciation for > all the good work Bob does by sending him a postcard or something similar. - ---- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu P.S. Alan also advocated, "If you want to *really* surprise, thank him by giving him a call ;-)" While I can imagine this being a surprise, I can tell you from experience that *nothing* can match the surprise power of having your JMDL JoniFest invitation revoked. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:34:05 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Ladies of the Canyon -- Who are they? << << Pardon me if this is a repeat question, but I'm new to the list and all the Joni info garnered off the website. >> Welcome to the list! Your question's a good one and hasn't been asked before as far as I can remember. Of course, that doesn't mean I know the answer, cuz I don't! :~) Bob >> Now you have me racking my brain trying to think of the answer. I remember it was in a contest that Wally B. had a couple of years ago. Wasn't Trina, Annie & Estrella supposed to be Mama Cass Elliott, Joan Baez, Judy Collins? I'm just guessing, but hopefully someone remembers the answer. Oh and welcome to the list BMG! Jimmy, who also appreciates Joni Guy Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:39:26 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: Stephen Stills since this thread is ongoing, just thought I'd mention, (again) FYI, that the song 'Just Like Me' was written about Stephen Stills. cheers, pat Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:47:26 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free) I'm gonna go out on a limb with this one. I think that Joni uses the biblical references to equate herself with Mary Magdalene as a whore being pimped by the record industry. "Magdalene is trembling like a washing on a line, trembling and gleaming." "All around the market place, the buzzing of the flies. The buzzing and the stinging... Divinely barren (of a recent hit record?) and wickedly wise, The killer nails are ringing" (Think "For The Roses") I don't think that we have to look much further sometimes than exactly what she says. I think that this song simply illuminates a revelation she had in respect to her control of her own career. Who, or what precipitated it, I couldn't say. If Joni was referring to Jesus in the line"But he sees a stray in the wilderness, And I see how far I've wandered" it would be "But He sees a stray..." so I view the biblical references as powerfully allegorical. The fact that the song is on NRH, an album hailed as "a return to form" and " sonically pared down" indicates some catharsis in her creative process within this period. She began to show her paintings the year it was released, too (see "Diary of a Decade"). This being said, I think the song is for me, among her very best. CC "She always misses. But the day she hits, That's the day she'll leave." -- JM ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:25:20 -0400 From: Matthew Snyder Subject: tape trade Hello folks - I am looking to do a tape trade. I seek the soundboard recording of Joni at A Day In the Garden, and I can offer up to trade at least one item that I didn't see anywhere on past tape trees: Joni's solo performance at the Gene Autry Museum, Jan. 26, 1995. Anyone interested please contact me by email off the list. Thanks, Matt Snyder ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:43:57 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: We Have A Winner, was, Re: $10 JMDL Fundraiser- McCartney Fans We have a winner!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" > Attention McCartney fans!! For a $10 donation to JMDL, I'm offering to one > and only one JMDLer, this > Remember, it's always a good idea to send a little money to JMDL, no matter > what the occasion. Now remember Susan, to send your check! > The check should be made out to "JMDL" and > mailed to: > > Ashara Stansfield > P.O. Box 215 > Topsfield, MA 01983 > USA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:01:12 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: Stephen Stills Joni Mitchell wrote it. - -- catman wrote: >who wrote Just Like Me?> "P. Henry" wrote: >> since this thread is ongoing, just thought I'd mention, (again) FYI, that the song 'Just Like Me' was written about Stephen Stills.>> Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:05:06 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: Stephen Stills - ps ps - http://www.jmdl.com/guitar/justlikeme-pb-c.cfm Joni Mitchell wrote it. - -- catman wrote: >who wrote Just Like Me?> Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:26:27 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Treacy" Subject: The Canyon Ladies!! Mr. BMGKotler wrote "today I was listening to Ladies of the Canyon and wondered are Trina, Annie and Estrella fictional or real?" To my knowledge, they are in fact real. I mentioned the other day that Joni had put together a book of art and poetry called "Morning Glory On The Vine" around 70/71, and distributed copies to her friends only, probably as Christmas gifts. Wally B. sent me a color copy of a page from it for a B-Day a few years back, and he apparently paid one of the above mentioned girls a large sum of $ for her copy. Wally didn't like to talk about this sort of thing much, this scenario in particular, because he didn't want to embarress said individual, but also because, like most of us, he would rather trade for his wordly possessions. Apparently, this paticular 'canyon lady' was busy trying to record a musical effort of her own, and needed money to finance her project. This is the only proof I have, however flimsy, but Wally wasn't one to tell tall stories about 'serious' matters. NP: Joni - press conference, Edmunton, 8.4.94 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:58:37 -0700 From: Steven Barton Subject: New member - For Free Hi all, I have been pleasantly lurking for a month or so since joining the list. I just wanted to tell my experience with Joni's music. The first song I ever heard Joni sing was "For Free." I was in high school and Ladies of the Canyon had been out long enough for sheet music to be available. I had never had a piano lesson, but I obtained the sheet music and managed to learn how to play "For Free" by carefully counting up and down from "middle C." It was the first song I ever played on the piano. But I didn't stop there. It wasn't long before I learned chords on the piano and was improvising, arranging and composing--all in the Joni idium! (Of course, there were other influences--Elton John and Jimmy Webb.) To this day, I still enjoy sitting down at the keyboard and doodling something--and invariably, one can hear a "Joniism." Anyway, through the years I have remained a fan of Joni Mitchell, my favorite albums being "Blue," "For the Roses" and "Hijira." Happy to be among such an interesting group of JM fans, Steve Barton ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:08:53 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Comfort in Melancholly/Shades of Scarlet I just love hearing everyone talk about their favorite Joni lyrics! I have to agree that Heijera is a masterpiece. It starts your mind to thinking about how many other masterpieces there are of Joni's lyrics and music. I am overwhelmed by the thought. Shades of Scarlet Conquering is another of those songs which tell a magnificent story. I am from Virginia, and her description of this southern bell is so accurate and so descriptive. I can't pick out a particular phrase because the whole song is a poetic statement. I welcome your favorite phrases though. they're all magnificent! Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:14:37 EDT From: RobSher50@aol.com Subject: Re: Amelia Great choice! This is another masterpiece! It makes me cry everytime I hear it. It's hard to pick a favorite line because they are all so wonderful! Thank you for adding this to our list! Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:23:13 -0700 From: RandyRemote Subject: Re: Hello JMDL byron bentley wrote: > I have been lurking for a few weeks and it's finally time to say hello > to everyone. Howdy-good question, Byron.... > > 11. Sweet Sucker Dance She did this one backed by Herbie Hancock at the 1980 Bread and Roses Festival in Berkeley, CA. It was positively awesome. I know of no recording of this event...too bad, she was doing some new ones that wound up on WTRF...Man to Man and ???I forget... also did 2 songs with BB King, which looks good on paper, but...... RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:54:34 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: New member - For Free << Anyway, through the years I have remained a fan of Joni Mitchell, my favorite albums being "Blue," "For the Roses" and "Hijira." Happy to be among such an interesting group of JM fans, >> And I'm happy you're here as well, Steven...you must be a Joni covers fan too, eh? ;~) Bob NP: Neil Young, "Winter Winds", 10/3/80 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:06:36 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: Stephen Stills - ps >catman wrote: > >>who wrote Just Like Me?> Didn't Paul Revere and the Raiders have a hit with that name? - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:03:14 -0700 From: jan gyn Subject: hinton book Yo- So I was looking at the 'new' version of Brian Hinton's 'Both Sides Now' in Borders today, wondering if I should buy it or slip it in my backpack. It has a lovely, full color pic of Joni's mug on the cover (although I'm still sort of partial to that wacky, ying/yang, 'parable and paradox' job on the earlier version, (mainly 'cause I own it.)) But what REALLY SUCKS is that there are no pictures inside this new version- that heart stopping, Avedonesque eight page pictorial between pgs 128-129 are gone! So, if you see the earlier (1996) version you might want to snag it. - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 22:32:26 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Joni in "100 Essential CDs" One of my birthday presents was a small book entitled "Rock - 100 Essential CDs - The Rough Guide". It's pretty neat, has some good commentary and also includes a second choice selection. In addition to some of the "greats" there are also a number of more obscure (at least to me) selections such as Tortoise, Tricky Head; Neu!; Joy Division. The picks are not necessarily predictable: Some of the list faves chosen: Joni - Hissing of Summer Lawns; 2nd: Hejira Van Morrison - Astral Weeks; 2nd: Night in San Francisco PJ Harvey - Dry; 2nd: To Bring You My Love Jane Siberry - When I Was A Boy; 2nd: Bound By The Beauty Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic; 2nd: Can't Buy A Thrill Nick Drake - Bryter Later; 2nd: Pink Moon Love - Forever Changes; 2nd: Da Capo Bjork - Debut; 2nd: Post Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced; 2nd: Bold as Love Prince - Sign O The Times; 2nd: Purple Rain Tom Waits - Rain Dogs; 2nd: Swordfishtrombones Neil Young - Tonight's the Night; 2nd: Arc/Weld Kakki ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #338 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?