From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #333 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, August 16 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 333 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni and Dylan was Shorter & Brecker [Slac ] Re: Choosing Your Next Joni [Slac ] Re: Shorter & Brecker [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "Down To You" (C&S) [IVPAUL42@aol.com] RE: Hinton the Lurker.....2+2=5.......who's paranoid now ? [john low ] Coyote - why a defector? ["Mark or Travis" ] hejira - why a defector? ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: an introduction of sorts [FredNow@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:37:33 -0700 From: Slac Subject: Joni and Dylan was Shorter & Brecker Hi SueMac! Great to see you onlist! You wrote: > She also sang with Dylan in an encore of "I Shall Be Released." > > Trivia: Does anyone remember Joni's reaction to that experience? :-) No but I'm all for throwing them together again so we can observe ;~D - -- Susan L.A. I am your angel ;~) HARLEY PARKING ONLY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:38:02 -0700 From: Slac Subject: Re: Choosing Your Next Joni The effervescently charming Don Rowe aka Larry Klein comes a' cruisin: > So ... thoughts anyone? Well Don, I'm not sure I have any of those but my next Joni is always whatever Joni is playing NOW, this very moment...sometimes I think I even get a little ahead of her ;~) Googleplexes and Bach's away, a very wise woman told me to live in the moment...So that's what I do and not many people seem to like it ;~D - -- Susan L.A. I am your angel ;~) HARLEY PARKING ONLY ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:01:47 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Shorter & Brecker << Trivia: Does anyone remember Joni's reaction to that experience? :-) >> Wasn't it that she commented on his AWFUL breath? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:44:12 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: "Down To You" (C&S) In a message dated 8/15/00 9:14:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dgrowe227@yahoo.com writes: << Ah yes, the Clavinet ... marketed originally as 'the keyboard player's answer to the rhythm guitarist'! No kidding. You were right on the money with Stevie as one of the foremost admirers, and consumate masters of the board -- even mentions it specifically in a background vocal ("I love my cla-vi-net!"). I'm kind of at a loss to pick it out of the mix on "Down To You" ... and I've tried for years, believe me! But you know our Joni, always using the latest, coolest instrument in completely different ways! ;-D >> It's a NEW instrument? For some reason, I thought the clavinet was something akin to a harpsichord, if not in sound, at least in age or period. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:04:3 +1000 From: john low Subject: RE: Hinton the Lurker.....2+2=5.......who's paranoid now ? Excellent post, Steve! During the time I've been on the list I, too, have been puzzled by the mauling Hinton occasionally seems to get. I actually enjoyed his book and found it stimulated and provoked my thinking about Joni's work. Still does! Cheers, John (in Sydney). __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:36:55 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Re: an introduction of sorts > Also, someone mentioned masterpieces, and I really can't stress > enough how I feel about Turbulent Indigo. Although I agree, knowing > the basic building blocks of her style (STAS, Blue, Hissing, Hejira) > is important, I think TI is her greatest achievement. Some may > disagree...discussion? > We Sue if it isn't it's damn close. It's certainly as fine a record as she's ever done. And the maturity she brings to TI gives it even greater depth than her earlier work. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:49:31 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Coyote - why a defector? I was listening to Hejira in my car a few days ago and something popped out at me that I had never thought about before. Why does Joni refer to herself as a '*defector* from the petty wars that shellshock love away? Although I have always heard and sung this lyric correctly, in my mind the meaning I have ascribed to this line is a *deserter* from the petty wars rather than a defector. To me the word defector implies leaving one side to join the other as in Robin Williams' character in 'Moscow on the Hudson' defecting from what was then the Soviet Union. This does tie in with some of the outdated references in 'Blue Motel Room' about American & Russia always keeping score and balancing the power and the Cold, Cold War, etc. But in the context of 'Coyote', I have to wonder why she chose that particular word. Because it sounded better? Maybe deserter sounded too cowardly and not in keeping with her theme of 'running away with honor'. But what would she be defecting to? Any thoughts out there? Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:21:22 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: hejira - why a defector? mark, i've always thought joni meant that she was defecting to the side of the non-loving people, that she was taking sides with those that were through with love -- until, of course, love claimed her back! wallyk Maybe deserter sounded too cowardly > and not in keeping with her theme of 'running away with honor'. But > what would she be defecting to? > > Any thoughts out there? > > Mark in Seattle > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:37:47 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: an introduction of sorts Cristen wrote: >>Listening to that album [Blue], I feel like she reaches something >>inside me with her music and brings out both an ache and a purity in >>me >>Since then I've not bought another of Joni's albums, but could >>definitely use advice on which one to get next. Anyone? For maximum ache and purity go directly to "For the Roses." - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #333 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?