From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #314 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, July 31 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 314 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- "For The Roses", circa 1972 ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] woodstock / jimmie spheeris ["Ramcey tCH" ] Re:Napster's still up and downloading SJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re:Napster's still up and downloading SJC [FredNow@aol.com] Re:Napster's still up and downloading SJC [FredNow@aol.com] Beautiful Joni post ["Joni Fan" ] Re: "For The Roses", circa 1972 [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Napster downloading SJC [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Joni's voice changes [Deb Messling ] Re: Dedicated to Miss Mitchell ["P. Henry" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #313 [Julian51469@aol.com] Re: Joni collectors? [AsharaJM@aol.com] JMDL Digest V2000 #422 [HanknBG@aol.com] Laura Nyro [Musicmattj@aol.com] Re: "For The Roses", circa 1972 [Mark Domyancich ] $10 Flooz [mann@chicagonet.net] Covers Train Keeps A Rollin' [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Laura Nyro [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Meeting Joni [kate abel ] Re: Covers Train Keeps A Rollin' [catman ] Second place [Brian Gross ] comments on last digest SJC [Erin Stoy ] Re: excellent women (AND men) [peves@marlboro.edu] Re: "For The Roses", circa 1972 ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Covers Train Keeps A Rollin' [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: "For The Roses", circa 1972 [Mark Domyancich ] A young Joni (publicity photos) [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Second place [pat holden ] "Two days on your tail..." [Richard Rice ] Napster, case closed and all that other intellectual property ["c Karma"] MUSIC CD & SIX FLAGS TICKET **FREE** to AOL users (and MORE!) [mann@chica] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:15:54 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "For The Roses", circa 1972 This week I've been listening to a Joni concert from February 23, 1972 at NYC's Carnegie Hall. Since some JMDLers are preparing to perform the album "For The Roses" at the upcoming JoniFest near Boston, USA, I think it's timely to the little list and ageless to the big List: Joni: "This is another new song. It's uh.. It's uh.. called "For The Roses". That comes from the expression, 'to run for the roses', 'an 'ya know what that's about. That's when 'ya take a horse and 'ya know, like he's chargin' into the finish line and they throw a wreath of flowers around his neck and uh... Then one day, they take him out and shoot him. Kind of a macabre thing to say, isn't it?" Discussion? All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 03:55:23 -0400 From: "Ramcey tCH" Subject: woodstock / jimmie spheeris Bob wrote: >Subject: John Martyn does Woodstock? >Does anybody know if John Martyn's version of "Woodstock" is Joni's song? no. this is a completely different song that he wrote. wonderful to have folks mentioning the amazing jimmie spheeris. i was amongst the fans that along with rain records, inundated sony records with emails asking for his records to finally be issued on CD. and now we have them all at last. rain records has done an outstanding job in remastering this classic music. take a listen to "ports of the heart" someday. you'll be glad you did. Ramcey tCH ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:42:14 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re:Napster's still up and downloading SJC RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: >>Hey Jmdler's Napster's still up until the mid-September, so >>download, download..... to your hearts content. Has anyone heard >>Joni sing "Summertime" with Herbie Hancock. Go there, it's a must >>hear! I've got some to share, but the download time is quicker with >>cable. You copy movies on your VCR's, don't you? Same difference. >>Case Closed! I have a feeling I'm gonna regret responding, but here goes anyway ... The case is not closed ... if you want to do right by the artists you profess to admire, you should buy the CD (and if there's a CD worth buying it's surely Herbie Hancock's "Gershwin's World"). Let's suppose I'm Herbie Hancock (I wish!) ... I pay my bills with the money earned from the records I make. If someone can get the music for free, I make nothing, can't pay my mortgage, foreclose on the house, become homeless, go hungry. How in the world is that cool? It's not ... it's called stealing. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:51:26 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re:Napster's still up and downloading SJC RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: >>Hey Jmdler's Napster's still up until the mid-September, so >>download, download..... to your hearts content. Has anyone heard >>Joni sing "Summertime" with Herbie Hancock. Go there, it's a must >>hear! I've got some to share, but the download time is quicker with >>cable. You copy movies on your VCR's, don't you? Same difference. >>Case Closed! I have a feeling I'm gonna regret responding, but here goes anyway ... The case is not closed ... if you want to do right by the artists you profess to admire, you should buy the CD (and if there's a CD worth buying it's surely Herbie Hancock's "Gershwin's World"). Let's suppose I'm Herbie Hancock (I wish!) ... I pay my bills with the money earned from the records I make. If someone can get the music for free, I make nothing, can't pay my mortgage, foreclose on the house, become homeless, go hungry. How in the world is that cool? It's not ... it's called stealing. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 05:11:25 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re:Napster's still up and downloading SJC RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: >>Hey Jmdler's Napster's still up until the mid-September, so >>download, download..... to your hearts content. Has anyone heard >>Joni sing "Summertime" with Herbie Hancock. Go there, it's a must >>hear! I've got some to share, but the download time is quicker with >>cable. You copy movies on your VCR's, don't you? Same difference. >>Case Closed! I have a feeling I'm gonna regret responding, but here goes anyway ... The case is not closed ... if you want to do right by the artists you profess to admire, you should buy the CD (and if there's a CD worth buying it's surely Herbie Hancock's "Gershwin's World"). Let's suppose I'm Herbie Hancock (I wish!) ... I pay my bills with the money earned from the records I make. If someone can get the music for free, I make nothing, can't pay my mortgage, foreclose on the house, become homeless, go hungry. How in the world is that cool? It's not ... it's called stealing. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:34:15 GMT From: "Joni Fan" Subject: Beautiful Joni post There is a wonderful post about a fellow that met and got to know Joni in Toronto last year over a two week period. (Post 74) Ya gotta love Joni after reading it! Go to: http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/boards/text/default.asp?afl=&comingfrom=artist&aid=360 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:40:58 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "For The Roses", circa 1972 In a message dated 7/30/00 2:15:42 AM US Central Standard Time, jlamadoo@one.net writes: << This week I've been listening to a Joni concert from February 23, 1972 at NYC's Carnegie Hall. >> That's a great show too, Jim. Fits nicely onto a CD, I'm making a copy for my buddy Alice even as we speak! :~) Bob NP: Diana Krall, "When I Look In Your Eyes" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 07:48:57 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Napster downloading SJC RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: >>Hey Jmdler's Napster's still up until the mid-September, so >>download, download..... to your hearts content. ... You copy movies on your VCR's, don't you? Same difference. Case Closed! In a message dated 7/30/00 4:47:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, FredNow@aol.com regretfully writes: << The case is not closed ... if you want to do right by the artists you profess to admire, you should buy the CD (and if there's a CD worth buying it's surely Herbie Hancock's "Gershwin's World"). ... How in the world is that cool? It's not ... it's called stealing. -Fred Simon >> Thank you, Fred. I am continually shocked that people think an operation like Napster is not obviously and patently (pun intended) illegal. And I am further amazed that people who realize Napster will not have a leg to stand on in its court case would rush to harvest Napster's illegal fruits before it is put out of business or forced to pay its fair share in royalties. The television station that broadcasts the movie that you copy for personal use so that you or your immediate family or guests can enjoy it at your convenience in your home pays royalties for the right to broadcast it. At the very least, people who make a piece of music available for downloading by others on the Internet should be paying the same kind of royalty. THAT is the appropriate analogy, NOT "it's free to copy movies on your VCR so it should be free to download songs from Napster or other shady operations." Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 08:38:14 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Joni's voice changes I always assumed that the change in Joni's singing was deliberate at that point. I remember an old interview, can't place it now, in which Joni said something like, "there's a voice inside me that's very deep and strong, that could carry over a loud band. I'm very tempted to go in that direction experimentally." At 12:10 PM 7/29/00 -0700, you wrote: >I was just emailing Kakki about this last night. The voice changed >just in the short space between 'Blue' and 'Court and Spark'. I don't >know if there was a shift in how she chose to use it or the timbre >actually changed or it was the way MOA was mixed or what. But to me >her renditions on MOA of the afore-mentioned songs have a fuller sound >to the voice. Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ ~I like cats. They give the home a heartbeat. / Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 05:45:15 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: Dedicated to Miss Mitchell Raffaele wrote: >I bought David Crosby and Graham Nash CD recorded in 1972, and it was nice seeing in the liner notes these few words: "To Miss Mitchell" Just thought it's a very sweet dedication from two men who've been 'involved' with Joni.> listen closely cause Joni is singing on some of those tracks as well... also, their next collaboration, 'Carry Me', included Crosby's 'Mama Lion'. pat NP: Girl To Be On My Mind - C & N http://homepages.go.com/~badwolff/albums/album1/ Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 09:42:36 EDT From: Julian51469@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #313 In a message dated 7/30/00 4:16:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,Bob Muller writes: << Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:47:02 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: John Martyn does Woodstock? Does anybody know if John Martyn's version of "Woodstock" is Joni's song? It's on his "Stormbringer" record... Bob >> In short the anbswer is ,...no. Although it is most deffinately about "kickin' up the stones and rollin' the cones" and Country Joe et al. This beautiful little ditty was made when John and his then wife Beverly were traveling across America in the summer of '69...I'll send you a copy of the album...I believe that it is out of print here in the U.S. but has been rereleased in merry Ole' England...John Martyn is a pure joy to listen to (up 'till about 1980...and if anyone can prove me wrong I'll be a happy man). Take care, Julian ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:20:23 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni collectors? Dave longingly wrote: << I've tried to buy videotapes of some old performances, but again the bidding becomes "too rich for my blood." >> First of all, welcome to the list, Dave!! To Dave and all newbies, don't spend your money on video tapes of old performances! We already have several tapes of old performances to offer for free (you just need blank tapes and postage) and many more will be offered as soon as I catch up after being away, and as soon as I get ready for the Labor Day Jonifest! If anyone has the capacity and willingness to dub the first 3 video tapes for the new listers, please let them know. I have the artwork for the first 2 tapes that I can send to anyone that needs it. Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:47:32 EDT From: HanknBG@aol.com Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #422 I was talking to a younger friend the other day, he's 19. Of course he said he had never heard anything by Joni Mitchell... "who is she?" Rather then be disgusted, I pulled out 2 cd's "Court and Spark" and HOSL and played a few tracks off each. . The next day he went out and bought HOSL and hasn't stopped talking about her since. There is hope for the young people in this world. I see something of myself in everyone ~Joni Mitchell "hejira" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:21:59 EDT From: Musicmattj@aol.com Subject: Laura Nyro does anyone know what has happened to www.lauranyro.net it was a fabulous web page but it's disappeared!!! matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:38:14 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: "For The Roses", circa 1972 Is there a more complete one out there? The copy I got to everyone cuts during Woodstock. I think if we had the full show it would still fit on a 74. I'm pretty sure everyone has the same copy I have. Great show, even a soundboard! NP-New Bohemians, Jamaican Lady At 7:40 AM -0400 7/30/00, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >That's a great show too, Jim. Fits nicely onto a CD, I'm making a copy for my >buddy Alice even as we speak! :~) - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:56:16 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: $10 Flooz Anyone who wants to add $10 of Flooz to their account or open a Flooz account with $10 ..........email me and I'll give you the code. These codes are from Chippewa Bottled Water so if you've already done this you cannot do this again. Limit one claim per household. It expires July 31st (altho I believe the $10 can be used for up to 1 year). Online Stores you can use FLOOZ at are: http://www.flooz.com/send/liststores_linked.asp http://www.flooz.com/ I only have so many of these so if you are interested email me soon. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:58:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers Train Keeps A Rollin' Hi Gang, Just a quick note to the 'hunters and gatherers' out there...the following covers have been nabbed and will be added to Volume 9 and will probably kick off Volume 10... For Free - Petula Clark For Free - Buffy Ste. Marie Both Sides Now - Floyd Cramer The Circle Game - Rick Ely Urge For Going - Claire Hamill Colloseum II - Down To You Julian Coryell - River Gabor Szabo - Both Sides Now, Michael From Mountains Cool! Thanks to those who are on the trail...meanwhile, here's a couple others that are unclaimed if you get the hankering to look: His Name Is Alive - Woodstock (This is available as a bonus track on the import version of Ft. Lake, the import sells for about $40! Yikes! Coupon Queen, come to my aid! ;~) Both Sides Now by Glen Campbell, John Davidson (always room for more cheese) Baillie & The Boys (record's "Lovin' Every Minute), and Brothers Four (Greenfields & Other Gold). I'll keep digging for more titles and of course I'll ALWAYS be digging all these cool covers! Bob NP, Ani, "Pixie" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 14:13:45 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Laura Nyro In a message dated 7/30/00 12:33:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Musicmattj@aol.com writes: << does anyone know what has happened to www.lauranyro.net it was a fabulous web page but it's disappeared!!! matt >> The authorized Laura Nyro home page is at www.lauranyro.COM, where it has always been. I don't thi k it ever was a .net address. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:56:52 +0000 From: kate abel Subject: Meeting Joni Hi folks, I had the pleasure of meeting Joni 3 times over the last 10 years. The first time I met her I told her I'd been following her music since 1972 when I stole my brother's Blue album! Since then I have actually met and sat down and spoken to her at length ( and shared a ciggy) and she has always been the most gracious, interesting wonderful person. She talked to me all three times as if I were a friend. We discussed her albums, I wanted to know about Magdalena's Laundry i.e. did it really exist. We talked about her new album (Taming the Tiger) then, and she told me about the artwork etc. She seemed genuinely glad to hear that she had made my decade, and that I loved her music. Forever a Joni fan....Katems.. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:14:23 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Covers Train Keeps A Rollin' Why is it okay to do these cover cd's but not download from Napster or even to copy DED for someone who was unable to find it to buy? I guess one reason is that it would cost a fortune to buy each cd with a Joni cover on!(Even allowing for those that were no longer available to buy.) colin-who is going down to the police station to report the fact i have recorded several comp cd's for jmdl friends. I just can't live with the guilt anymore. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:50:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Second place Hi gang, Sorry to be so late with this, but with the current turmoil in my life, I'm actually only 8 days behind on listmail. Something like 400 posts. The second spot for me is actually dually occupied north of the border: Loreena McKennitt in the living spot and Stan Rogers in the deceased spot. Must be something about Canadians that reaches into my heart and soul and takes hold, ehh? :-) Take good care, everyone Brian np: Flotsam and Jetsam Vol 1 (thanks again, Bob!) ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 16:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Erin Stoy Subject: comments on last digest SJC Some comments on posts from the last digest... First, Marilyn's story of how Joni's music coincided with her own life experiences really struck me. I thought it was a great post. Second, Bruce wrote: "my first encounter with aggressive HOLLOW virtuosity was King Crimson's "In the Court of the Crimson King." Remember that one? Hard to imagine a woman being caught up in that kind of empty showing off." I would ask you to define hollow virtuosity. "In the Court of the Crimson King" is a brilliant album, and if it is beauty you are seeking, you'd be hard pressed to find a song more beautiful than "I Talk to the Wind." I treasure the intricate song so much I save it for "special" occasions so I will never tire of it. I absolutely disagree that the ability to write emotional, sincere songs has ANYTHING to do with one's gender. Women are no better at it than men, in my opinion. (And I am a woman, incidentally.) Third, RoseMJoy wrote of Napster: "You copy movies on your VCR's, don't you? Same difference. Case Closed!" I just can't let this one go. No, it's not "same difference." I actually DON'T copy movies, but that's not the point here. *When people copy movies from tv, they are usually not then making thousands of copies for other people to have. Napster makes it possible for thousands (or millions, depending on how many people want it) to own a song without paying royalties to the artist or helping to cover the huge costs incurred by the record companies (and here I am talking about all the costs a record label incurs in finding talent and investing in it, not the cost of CD production). *There is fair use involved with taping things off of tv. People tape things so they can watch them later("time-switching"), and that is legally fair use. It is blatantly obvious that Napster's existence is based on copyright infringement, not in the promotion of new/unsigned artists. Only after Judge Patel ruled against Napster did the company's website prominently display a section for emerging artists. *Videotape is not digital. Napster allows people to make perfect digital copies that do not deteriorate with subsequent generations of copies. *Bottom line, in my opinion-- and I get a lot of heat for this and expect it at this point-- is that artists and their labels should have the right to decide how their music is distributed, and to be compensated for it. Intellectual property is property. Finally, on a really positive note, I got my "Voices" book in the mail yesterday. It's a high quality book, and I wish it were longer! Erin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:05:29 -0400 From: peves@marlboro.edu Subject: Re: excellent women (AND men) Greg Brown, John Gorka, Bill Morrisey, Tom Waits, JJ Cale, Paul Simon, Michael Stipe, Neil Young are some of the male songwriters I listen to and LOVE alot. They are poets, they have varying measures of humor, intelligence, sensitivity, sensuality, - humility too. I go to them, they thrill me when I listen to them or see them!! They are blessings. But . . .I'm racking my brain here . I think men have a shell of some sort that prevents them from complete exposure and surrender and that is the missing gift that some women possess?? The only man I can think of that comes close to moving me as widely as Joni or Stevie , or Rickie Lee, or Patti or Jane Siberry or Lauri Anderson is maybe John Lennon? I just don't know. And it's not simply that women cry and men kick ass because there's Courtney Love , Joan Jett - who else? Chryssie Hynde? Melissa Etheridge - - women who kick ass. I don't know. Guesses.. . "based on what each set of time and change is touching" Peg ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:44:48 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: "For The Roses", circa 1972 Why is Joni talking about shooting a winner? Is she just being mean? Doesn't everyone love a winner, as the expression goes? playing devil's advocate > That comes from the expression, 'to run for the roses', > 'an 'ya know what that's about. > That's when 'ya take a horse and 'ya know, like > he's chargin' into the finish line and they > > throw a wreath of flowers around his neck > and uh... > Then one day, > they take him out and > shoot him. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 21:39:42 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers Train Keeps A Rollin' << Why is it okay to do these cover cd's but not download from Napster or even to copy DED for someone who was unable to find it to buy? >> Well, you're right Colin...technically I suppose it's illegal as hell to compile all this cover stuff, although I think it's a matter of personal ethics. Obviously, as we've seen, people see black, white and gray on the issue. I think intent is a big part of it, and like I said, my fear is NOT folks like you and me and Rose, hell the record companies love us, we spend a disproportionate amount of our disposable income on music! Of course, if the record companies had kept on with vinyl, they wouldn't be having this problem! ;~) Bob NP: Tom Waits, "A Sweet Little Bullet From a pretty Blue Gun" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:46:09 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: "For The Roses", circa 1972 I guess she was drawing a parallel between her career and the life of a horse. "Lilac sprays" and the wreath of flowers, IMO. NP-Peter Rowan, 6/93-Panama Red At 8:44 PM -0400 7/30/00, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: >Why is Joni talking about shooting a winner? Is she just being mean? >Doesn't everyone love a winner, as the expression goes? - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:07:07 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: A young Joni (publicity photos) For those JMDLers who collect Joni stuff, I just won an auction at Yahoo. There's a guy there who claims these photos came from Bill Grahams' old office at the Fillmore East. They were in the trash! I was the only one bidding on it! $20.00. He's got more. Here's what he says about them: John wrote: These photos were left for trash in 1972 when the Fillmore East closed in New York City. They actually came from Bill Grahams former office files. If you have any other favorite artists that you may want photos of, let me know and I will check if I have them. Thank you for your interest. John http://auctions.yahoo.com/booth/picadisc Good Luck, Rose ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:21:51 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: Second place Brian Gross wrote: > Hi gang, > > Sorry to be so late with this, but with the current turmoil in my life, I'm > actually only 8 days behind on listmail. Something like 400 posts. > > The second spot for me is actually dually occupied north of the border: > Loreena McKennitt in the living spot and Stan Rogers in the deceased spot. > > Must be something about Canadians that reaches into my heart and soul and takes > hold, ehh? :-) > > Take good care, everyone > > Brian > hey there Brian....ah what good taste you have in Canadians...errr musicians ;) I have to take this opportunity to say "me too" re : Loreena and Stan. I love them both so much and yes it is special that they are Canadians. I have a wonderful story about Loreena. I actually saw her at a trade show thingity in Toronto way back when she was pretty much unknown . I was only about ten feet away from her. It was very special and I remember thinking she had this witty, dry sense of humour as well as being able to play harp and sing so well. To me, it was like hearing an angel sing. And i still feel that way. Whenever Im stressed to the max, it helps to hear her soothing voice. Im so lucky where I work, being the Queen B. , I get to play her music first thing in the morning and I crank it loud too! Sometimes people who phone into the book store at that hour can hear her beauteous tones!! I especially love Full Circle. A very special tune with so much meaning. I love Stan for lots of reasons. The emotionality of his music, his love and devotion for the land, the sea and the people of the east coast is very special. I will never forget the time that a band did Barrett's Privateers, acapella of course, in a bar and the whole place stood up and sang along like it was the national anthem. In many ways it is. You could see that in the faces of those singing. It is a long song and they all knew it by heart!!! It was so moving, I was brought to tears.He was a kindred spirit to us for certain. thank you for sharing, take good care, love, Mags :)) > > > ===== > "No paper thin walls, no folks above > No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" > > yeah, right > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:41:32 -0500 From: Richard Rice Subject: "Two days on your tail..." "Those two bald headed days before the first snow flakes sail..." Hi Rick. So my ears are burning with curiosity... How was the reunion with DJRD? I'd love to hear your take on it. Production wise, it's a strange cd. There is a muffled quality to it. Certainly nothing compaired to the sonic quality of WTRF. :^) I was so taken with reading Joni's Rolling Stone interview about Wild Things and how pleased she was with the eq mix and stuff, whatever that means. I haven't a clue, but that disk definitely has a clarity about it that would do great justice to DJ. Still, in spite of recording values, I love this disk. She is so expansive and 'out there' with this recording. It takes the who concept of what popular recording is and takes it to a higher level. The themes are expasive to the point of being a audio motion picture. There are so many grand moments. One funny moment... in the mix of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, there is a male voice whispering background vocals. A real low, low bass sound to it. When I first owned the album, I played it on a low-end Kenner Close n Play system and could not hear it. Years and many, many listens later, I was playing the song and for the first time heard that male vocal. My hair stood on end! I thought there was a ghost in the room with me!!! Where the ---k was this coming from?!!! (The spirit talks in spectrums, indeed.) It was daylight, I was alone and I half way ran out of the house out of fear. Too silly. Waiting for the review. John. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:16:39 GMT From: "c Karma" Subject: Napster, case closed and all that other intellectual property Before RMJ and RR get down all over the Napster thing, I'll throw my peeve in now toward the record companies for: 1.Overcharging their customers for the past 10 years for CDs (since CDs became the predominant media for recorded music, there's no godly reason why they should have stayed so expensive), and 2. Being asleep at the switch for electronic media transfers via the internet. You reap what you sow. Personally, as much as I dislike any government intervention into the freedoms of the internet I feel that copyrights exist for good reasons and no newly developed media should allow their breach. I'm very happy to have helped make Joni a rich woman. I think she deserves it. How many future great artists deserve to die poor because they'll have no means of selling their music, or books, or art, or film since everyone will trade it under the guise of free speech. Remember fairness, people. Fairness. Demand better radio (however it's delivered), and we'll all keep the opportunity to hear great stuff while artists continue to eat. The internet marketplace is getting hot with "intellectual property" issues. One of them is the crux of Henley and Crow's Artists Coalition. Sting appealed this week to an international body in Geneva to claim the internet address sting.com. He was late to the game and someone got there first. He can appeal to a court in the US, but as much as I admire Sting I'd hate to see him win simply on the grounds that he has sharper lawyers. I'm happy and relieved for Joni that Wally Breese founded jonimitchell.com first. She and we all are fortunate that he and subsequently, Jim Johanson have lovingly put forth her internet identity with the reverence it deserves. In the spooky realm of life imitating art, I will not quote from (since I do not have the artists' permission) but will simply refer listers to a song from Talking Heads' 1985 work, "Little Creatures" titled, "(Give Me Back My) NAME." CC "Oh these times. Oh these changing times."-- JM ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:49:09 -0500 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: MUSIC CD & SIX FLAGS TICKET **FREE** to AOL users (and MORE!) All you JMDL AOL users.........here's a treat for you! AOL is giving Six Flag tickets to AOL users. Go to AOL Keyword: Six Flags. or try: http://www.aol.com/webcenters/travel/sixflags/ Free music CD for AOL members http://aol.riffage.com/News/AOL **FREEBIES FOR AOL and NON-AOL USERS** FREE DANA MASE CD SAMPLER of her music and a 10 minute video (US). http://www.danamase.com/cgi-bin/want_cd.pl?AID=598825&PID=333358 (She's been featured on Dawson's Creek) She found her first guitar on top of a huge mound of junk in her grandfather's pawn shop, and frequently sang in the Denny's parking lot after 2 a.m. She also taught herself to play piano, and was influenced by her older sister's JONI MITCHELL, Carole King, and Neil Young albums, also the Rolling Stones' "Between The Buttons," since it contained "Ruby Tuesday." GET A FREE SAMPLE OF RED HAWAIIAN TEA www.revolutiontea.com/sample.html Free Mosquito Patch Click on SPECIAL TV OFFER http://www.therapatch.com/ Kakki and some others (Wally K?) may want to take this along to the next Jonifest!! (he! he!) 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