From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #313 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, July 30 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 313 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- memorable moments [zaide912@webtv.net] DJRD - it just talked to me! ["Takats, Angela" ] moments when joni was with you ["william" ] Re: excellent women (AND men) [B Merrill ] Re: DJRD - it just talked to me! ["M & C Urbanski" ] Re: memorable moments ["M & C Urbanski" ] Order of Exposure to Joni (Long) ["Ross, Les" ] Re: moments when joni was with you ["M & C Urbanski" ] Re: Johnstons cover album [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: memorable moments/chronological ["M & C Urbanski" ] Re: DJRD - it just talked to me! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Close second to Joni --- Jimmie Spheeris ["Joni Fan" ] Re: excellent women [B Merrill ] Still get my feet up to dance ["william" ] Re: excellent women [Relayer211@aol.com] Re: Still get my feet up to dance ["M & C Urbanski" ] Re: moments when joni was with you [Mark Domyancich ] Re:Napster's still up and downloading SJC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: excellent women ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Order of Exposure to Joni (Long) ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Still get my feet up to dance [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni part of new "Artists' Coalition" [RandyRemote ] Re: Joni's "middle period" voice, moments ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni part of new "Artists' Coalition" [Dflahm@aol.com] big yellow taxi - animated clip [MP123A321@aol.com] F&J Cover Art [Mark Domyancich ] Re: Memorable Moments/Cashier perks [Emmy M Burns ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 03:34:13 -0400 (EDT) From: zaide912@webtv.net Subject: memorable moments A memorable moment that continues.... One winter day I was grocery shopping and I suddenly became aware that Come In From The Cold was playing!!! How did this happen? Joni got on the muzak tape in the grocery store!!! It was just perfect and the stranger part is that I continue to hear it in different stores. Friends have told me they hear it too, and we're not merely projecting our joni-love on to the stores audio system or having some sort of flashback. Has anyone else heard her in the grocery store? Did one of you have something to do with this? If so thanks and keep it up. If you're taking requests , i'd like to hear "Just Like This Train" the next trip to New York on Amtrak. I did listen to "California" on my first trip out there this summer...it was special...Ocean Beach in San Francisco at twilight, a good friend, and Joni. To the post about Joni's loft in NY...thanks! I'd always wondered what if any ties she had with the big apple, most of what I hear is related to Canada or California. Love to all, Kevin NP: Van Morrison "Ballerina" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:48:23 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: DJRD - it just talked to me! Hey Listers I bought a copy of DJRD the other day...what better way to cheer myself up after a relationship break-up than getting a new joni CD. I'd heard lots about it...but finally got the chance to listen to it for the first time.....JONI HEAVEN....how good is this album!! Just the first few "ooos" by joni in Cotton Avenue chased my blues away...you can't beat joni's voice and the way she uses it as an instrument....(sigh) And I love the way it goes from the floatiness of Cotton - to the strumming guitar in Talk to Me....makes me want to piss a tequilla annaconda!!!!! And is that Pastorios (spelling?) again on bass?....how good!! So no matter where I'm 'at' in my life - or what crisis I face...I know I can ALWAYS count on our joni to lift my spirits (and provide me with total listening pleasure). Ange Sydney (I finally understand - "it's all a dream she has awake") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:05:33 +0700 From: "william" Subject: moments when joni was with you With reference to M&C Urbanski's post, What a beautiful NRH story. Thanks for sharing it with us. I was in the Big Apple last year for the first time and Paul Simon was in my head constantly. 7th Avenue, the NJ turnpike, Central Park. I felt like the only living boy. I understand why he, Woody Allen et al are besotted with NY. They named it twice. I don't have such a Joni "moment" to share but I was a free man in Paris, had conversation with Leslie, why'd you get so drunk and lead me on that way, the only joy around, love came to my door, the rain slammed hard as bars, loose wires lashing out, walks on jungle paths, still be on my feet, paper thin walls, red's for stop and green's for going, like Christmas bells and wrapping up, the frying pan's too wide, these are the clouds of Michael Jackson. It's all so much. We should stay in touch, good friends you and me. So what should I do? I'm happy when I'm with you. Friend of spirit who drank and Joni-ised. Willy the Shake ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:24:31 -0400 From: B Merrill Subject: Re: excellent women (AND men) And I didn't say it very well... I didn't mean that there aren't expressive male singers. I was talking about the rare conjunction of ambition + sincerity in the work of singer-songwriters. Maybe I'll try again later, and try to explain what I mean by ambition. Since I have to get back to work, this morn. thanks for your comment, Bruce >Respectfully disagree with that particular statement...I'm not gonna bother composing a list of male singers who sing in a complete emotional manner...OK, a couple, Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Elvis Costello, Tom Waits, Sam Cooke, Nat King Cole...anyway, I would wager to say that the lists are about equal. > >Maybe I'm not really picking up on the gist of what you're trying to say. > >Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:40:49 -0400 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: DJRD - it just talked to me! > Hey Listers > I bought a copy of DJRD the other day...what better way to cheer myself up > after a relationship break-up than getting a new joni CD. I'd heard lots > about it...but finally got the chance to listen to it for the first > time.....JONI HEAVEN....how good is this album!! > > Just the first few "ooos" by joni in Cotton Avenue chased my blues > away...you can't beat joni's voice and the way she uses it as an > instrument....(sigh) > Ange > Sydney Can you say orgasm! Feels good don't it! Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 07:34:30 -0400 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: memorable moments Has anyone else heard her in the grocery store? Did one of > you have something to do with this? If so thanks and keep it up. If > you're taking requests , i'd like to hear "Just Like This Train" the > next trip to New York on Amtrak > > Love to all, > Kevin Kevin, It's cable radio, and yes they play lots of Joni! I've heard Circle Game, Just like this Train, Big Yellow Taxi, Come in From The Cold, Twisted and other Joni songs. Just keep on shopping! Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:54:20 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: Order of Exposure to Joni (Long) I've been reading how some of the listers were fortunate enough to encounter Joni chronologically speaking. That's to say, they have been with her since the start and have bought her recorded work as it was released. Nowadays, given the raft of 'endorsements' she has been given by younger musicians, their fans are, in turn, checking out the source - so to speak. I wonder how they find their way through her catalogue. I wonder too if they found that listening to her work in, say, the later part of her life made listening to the first three albums a 'jarring', perhaps, experience. I posted recently that I was first introduced to Joni on MOA which could reasonably be argued as a form of 'greatest hits' rendered live. My point being it was a summary of her work to date. Set to the musical accompanyment of the LA Express (another well covered and opined matter) with the currency of sophisitication of its time that they brought to the feast. When I first heard MOA, everything up to Hejira had been released and indeed hearing Coyote on the Alan Freeman saturday show on Radio One my next purchase was to be Hejira. A particularly miserable february in the Scottish Highlands we had wet snow (what I call snow that doesn't stay long) most very short days. Well, I'd hitched a ride through to the nearest town where records could be bought and picked up Hejira with money I'd made babysitting for neighbours. I completely clicked with Hejira. Its winter, mortality, and remoteness of the soul references were just right for the sixteen year old I was at the time. And the jump from MOA seemed really easy to make. The joy of the live album set against the melancholy of H were a natural progression to me. A 'returning to herself' as she sang on one of the songs. This was heady stuff. That summer (a good one in weather terms) I bought HOSL and just bathed in the colour and light of the collection of sounds and lyrics. The same summer Derek, who'd lent me the MOA tape the previous year, decided to check out the earlier work. I couldn't get it at all. The work of a Naif, I figured to myself. Nice enough but not in the same league as her then current work. The scope was too narrow for me although I heard them as beautiful songs. Just a little fey. Hey, I was trying to keep a lid on my burgeoning sensitivity which was by this time leaking out all over the place. I already had peer group issues. Well we caught up with the rest of her work over the summer and the following year. Blue blew Derek away, if I remember correctly, but I quibbled that the MOA version of the songs were better - I was young, stupid and all of that, forgive me! Court and Spark? HOSL for beginners. (Good grief, I had a lot to learn!) I can see quite easily how a new listener could have a real hard time taking in the range of JM material. TI just does not sit easily next to FTR anymore than Mingus does. I can quite see her point when JM suggests that if any of her albums were the work of a new artist they would be feted at the highest level. Now of course I have them all and they stretch back a long way in time and personal evolution. I find it incomprehensible that JM has not received the critical recognition she deserves. But that is more a reflection on the 'critics' and values than her work. That is a given. But I'm wandering off the point and I have an exhibition of Art Nouveau work to visit at the Victoria and Albert Museum in Knightsbridge this sunny saturday afternoon in London. I should be outside, while sun there is. Everyone enjoy their weekend, that's an order! Carlos Pantalones Peluditas (London) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 08:00:10 -0400 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: moments when joni was with you , these are the clouds of Michael Jackson. It's all so much. > We should stay in touch, good friends you and me. So what should I do? I'm > happy when I'm with you. > Friend of spirit who drank and Joni-ised. > Willy the Shake > Michael Jackson! Is that a Freudian slip?? Anyhow, I know what you mean, I talk a lot in Joniese or will break out into Joni song when the situation permits. Pisses off all the non-Joni addicts. Which brings me to another Joni moment...next post. Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 08:57:59 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Johnstons cover album << Wow, I didn't know they also covered UFG! Does Bob have this one yet?! ;-) >> Don't have it yet, but I'm working on Volume 9! ;~) Contributors & "Subscribers", your copies of Volumes 7/8 will go out Tuesday... Let's keep the interest going on covers! Still many more "River"'s to cross! ;~) I have sent a database to Les so he can post what we've "captured" and what we're still looking for. I'll send it to Jim also for inclusion on JM.com assuming the information is helpful! Bob NP: The Johnston's "Both Sides Now" (I kid you not!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:04:49 -0400 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: memorable moments/chronological When I was 17 my parents moved us to the west coast of Florida, it was September of '74. I was in my senior year of high school, and had to leave a boyfriend behind--you just don't do that to kids you know. Anyhow, I was bummed and pissed off at my parents. At the same time my best friend had moved to Arizona. At this point in my life I had just started listening to Joni - Court & Spark was the release that turned me on to her. Life was the pits in Port Charlotte and at Christmas time, I was able to talk my parents into letting me go to Arizona to stay with my best friend. While there Miles of Isles was released and got a lot of air time in Arizona! A friend of my best friend's sister said to me, "if you like Joni, you'll love Blue" and she bought me the LP for Christmas. It definitely fit my mood! "It's coming on Christmas, they're cutting down trees..." The Last Time I Saw Richard!!!! My boyfriend's name was Richard! "I am a lonely painter, I live in a box of paints"--rip my heart out! After New Year's, I had to go back to Florida it was a sudden decision for my friend's parents, her dad had gotten in trouble with the law. I was booked on an evening flight. "Look out the left the captain said... I shouldn't have got on this flight tonight" went through my head the whole flight! How ironic I thought, and these songs sucked me into Joni even more. She had put to music what I was going through. Back in Florida, I bought MOI to comfort me. I about shit! "She went to Florida...So you packed your tent and you went to live out in the Arizona sands". God what else!!!! "They paved paradise and the put up a parking lot"...That was the whole reason my parents moved! The school system took our beautiful woods in our backyard and paved it! My mother hated that song. I was hooked on Joni, this was a friend of spirit and at that time in my life my only friend! I then graduated high school, moved to Virginia to stay with my aunt for a year then went back to Florida. I became a bartender. "drink up now it's getting on time to close". HOSL came out but I wasn't ready for it, I had to put it aside for awhile. Then Hejira came out. That grabbed me by the throat! A friend I made at school in Florida had killed herself while I was in Virginia "all emotions and abstractions". And Refuge of the roads...Oh God! "The nets were overflowing in the Gulf of Mexico, they were overflowing in the refuge of the roads...And I went running down a white sand road, I was running like a white assed deer, Running to lose the blues, to the innocence in here." "I've been traveling so long, How'm I ever going to know my home when I see it again..." Anyhow, you all get the point, it's been like that with every LP. I did get all the LP's before Blue and bought every Joni when released. HOSL did eventually hit me too. I'm sure that many of you can tell the same kind of story. Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 09:14:43 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: DJRD - it just talked to me! << Can you say orgasm! Feels good don't it! >> Eargasm, you mean, right? ;~) (I stole that from Johnnie the Taylor) And Ange, you're spot on about that Cotton Ave. intro - when Joni's acoustic and voice meet up with Jaco's opening bass bomb and they go wandering down that Avenue, it's amazing! Glad to see you "Joni-ing" your way through your personal tribulations. When I broke up with a girlfriend in college, I played Hejira and cried (I mean, really WAILING kind of crying) for about 3 hours. Bob NP: Joan Armatrading, "Baby, I" (live) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:36:14 GMT From: "Joni Fan" Subject: Re: Close second to Joni --- Jimmie Spheeris Steve, So glad to have heard from another admirer of Jimmie's work. I'm a little surprised that more Joni folks have not discovered his music. Also, I obviously wasn't aware that CDNow carried his music. I have just been reading the Rain Record e-mails and must have misunderstood when they spoke about the future distribution. How long have you listened to Spheeris? I discovered him around 1975 and didn't know why he stopped making his lovely music. One search on the Internet answered that question. Funny to grieve a death from so many years ago . . . now. I also loved the "Ports of the Heart" album, but still am quite riveted by "Isle of View" . . . an incredible masterpiece. Have you listened to his last album, "Spheeris"? It has been hard for me to listen to knowing he passed away right after that. Hard to hear it with a fresh ear. Loree >From: Steven Barton >To: Joni Fan >Subject: Re: Close second to Joni --- Jimmie Spheeris >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:03:01 -0700 > >I must also jump in here and spread the word about Jimmie Spheeris. He >really is a kindred spirit to Joni. And her influence is very evident in >his music. > > > ...it is currently only available at > > rainrecords.com, but through their hard fought efforts will be available >in > > record stores soon. > >Actually, his recordings have been available at CDNow for the past year. >I recommend everyone go there and sample a few cuts. Specifically, you >ought to check out "So Darkly Fall The Shadows" from the Ports of the >Heart album to really hear that Joni influence. attempted link: > >http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1992244577/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/artistid=SPHEERIS*JIMMIE/itemid=1235238 > >"Child From Nowhere," and "It's You They're Dreaming Of" from the same >album are two of my favorites. > >Steve ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:51:52 GMT From: "Cassie Fox" Subject: For the Roses Can any one tell me who the song "For the Roses" is about?? Or any other information about that song?? Thanks! -Cassie ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 08:11:21 -0400 From: B Merrill Subject: Re: excellent women Hi Victor, Thanks for your comment. Yes, John Coltrane is a superb example of a male musician who was a supreme technically and also (or even more) committed to expressivity and communication... But I was thinking about something closer to home, singer-songwriters or groups doing their own material in the post-Beatles pop-rock realm. And Yes is therein a good exception, since Anderson is an impassioned sincere singer (that is how he comes off) and this combines with their aggressive in-your-face virtuosity. (Speaking of Yes, my first encounter with aggressive HOLLOW virtuosity was King Crimson's "In the Court of the Crimson King." Remember that one? Hard to imagine a woman being caught up in that kind of empty showing off. Hard for me, anyway.) However, while I am a big steely Dan fan, and their ambition, their great "quality control," I can't agree with SD as a counter-instance. I don't see them as interested in direct sincerity. The content of their songs is essentially elliptical, narrative, sardonic. Which is fine, in its way. But here's a challenge.. What's their sweetest song? I think it's "Ricky don't lose that number." Years ago. Not too many of those in the SD play list! Again, I didn't mean ambitious as a pejorative. Not at all. I delight in ambition (and that's why I'm so keen on Joni's Hissing.) The challenge is to combine ambition with sincerity, and I find that (in the post-Beatles pop-rock realm) women are more likely to meet that challenge than men. Bruce PS To me, ambitious means >breaking out of the norm, going where noone has gone before, creating >something new and different. Yes, I agree. And that is what we want... Though perhaps, it is this very stereotype you >describe, that makes it so challenging for men to succeed and prove that >there are exceptions. Yes. And I wish I'd understood all this better when I was a guy in the music biz. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:22:20 +0700 From: "william" Subject: Still get my feet up to dance Is Joni danceable? 12-inch Travolta versions of The Fiddle and the Drum? A back beat to Sunny Sunday? Here with my cheery song......... Techno Magdalene. Ho! Can you imagine? I still get my feet up to dance. Wily the Shake ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:36:45 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Re: excellent women In a message dated 7/29/00 10:21:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, merrillb@crisny.org writes: << Again, I didn't mean ambitious as a pejorative. Not at all. I delight in ambition (and that's why I'm so keen on Joni's Hissing.) The challenge is to combine ambition with sincerity, and I find that (in the post-Beatles pop-rock realm) women are more likely to meet that challenge than men. >> What about John Lennon,Bob Dylan,Neil Young,Pink Floyd,Cat Stevens,Paul Simon. ect...I don't think it's a matter of men singers ans women singers.It's a matter of sinsere singers and unsinsere singers. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:56:57 -0400 From: "M & C Urbanski" Subject: Re: Still get my feet up to dance > Is Joni danceable? 12-inch Travolta versions of The Fiddle and the Drum? A > back beat to Sunny Sunday? Here with my cheery song......... Techno > Magdalene. Ho! Can you imagine? I still get my feet up to dance. > Wily the Shake > Well if you insist! of course there is Dancin' Clown and I love to dance to Shinny Toys, Underneath The Streetlight, Good Friends, Raised On Robbery, Snakes and Ladders just to name a few! Dancin', dancin',You're my dancin' clown! Marilyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:09:03 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Re: moments when joni was with you A couple of years ago I was in Staples and Come In From The Cold came on over their PA. I kind of remember hearing something else by Joni there as well. No doubt I was buying padded envelopes. :D My sister called me up one night and told me Edith came on over their muzak station... I don't care if it's muzak or not, hearing Joni in the weirdest places is always cool. NP-The Slip, Cannonball (strange how you wake up with songs in your head) - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:24:54 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re:Napster's still up and downloading SJC Hey Jmdler's Napster's still up until the mid-September, so download, download..... to your hearts content. Has anyone heard Joni sing "Summertime" with Herbie Hancock. Go there, it's a must hear! I've got some to share, but the download time is quicker with cable. You copy movies on your VCR's, don't you? Same difference. Case Closed! Rose NP Live: The Band with Neil Young, Joni & Bob Dylan: I Shall Be Released Ron Wood is on Guitar:~D ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:43:05 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: excellent women Victor, I listened to some of your music & you have a beautiful voice! There are several other male voices that I just love- Michael McDonald could sing anything & give me goosebumps. Plus he is the nicest humblest guy I have ever met. I also love the songs & voice of John Gorka. One of my very favorite songwriters. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic…the album grows more intriguing with repeated listening" All Music Guide "lyrically, it's a work of art overall" Indie-Music.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:10:31 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Order of Exposure to Joni (Long) > Well we caught up with the rest of her work over the summer and the > following year. Blue blew Derek away, if I remember correctly, but I > quibbled that the MOA version of the songs were better - I was young, stupid > and all of that, forgive me! Well I for one have been listening to Joni since Court & Spark & have bought everything in sequence since that record (picking up the previous material along the way) and I have to say that I still prefer the MOA versions of 'A Case of You' and 'Blue'. I was just emailing Kakki about this last night. The voice changed just in the short space between 'Blue' and 'Court and Spark'. I don't know if there was a shift in how she chose to use it or the timbre actually changed or it was the way MOA was mixed or what. But to me her renditions on MOA of the afore-mentioned songs have a fuller sound to the voice. The vocals on 'Blue' always sounded thin & somewhat strained to me. Maybe it's the live, concert hall setting as opposed to the studio setting. However, on For The Roses, a change was taking place either in the sound of the voice or the style & range she chose to use. By Court & Spark, she sounds different - not completely different, you could tell it was Joni if you were hearing C&S for the first time & already were familiar with LOTC & Blue - but definitely different. As time has gone on, I have come to appreciate the earlier, higher voice more & more. Especially if you can watch her on video, there is something thrilling about seeing & hearing that high, pristine voice coming with such sincerity & clarity out of that fresh, beautiful face. But I generally prefer Joni singing in her lower register. I really like the way she sings now. And watching the beautiful, mature woman bare her soul on stage in Concord was an even more thrilling experience for me. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:49:07 -0500 From: "Eric Wilcox" Subject: RE: Order of Exposure to Joni (Long) Well, my order of exposure to Joni was a bit muddled. Let me explain. As I have said on this list before-- I'm a new recruit. Since the beginning of June, I've been absolutely hooked. It doens't really compare with the years and years most of you have under your belt. But consider it a priveledge-- you get to see a brand new Joni fan blossom (gag). ;) I was flying to Arizona out of Chicago. A healthy flight time of 3-4 hours made me bring along my CD player. I had recently heard "California" somewhere or other-- so I had downloaded that and a whole bunch of others in MP3 for off of Napster. So I took all I had downloaded, burned it to CD, and figured I'd give it the listening time it deserved on the plane. So here's what I had acquired: Harlem in Havana, All I Want, Big Yellow Taxi, Blue, Both Sides Now, California, A Case of You, Chelsea Morning, Down to You, Help Me, I Don't Know Where I Stand, Just Like This Train, For Free (live), River, Sunny Sunday, the Circle Game, Urge for Going, You Turn Me On I'm A Radio. Quite a mix, indeed. I was hooked. I don't think I listenend to any of the other CDs I brought for the entire vacation. I found my way to an internet computer over the break, and ordered Hits, Blue, and Taming the Tiger so that when I returned home they were waiting there for me. Then came Court and Spark... Hejira... Turbulent Indigo... Night Ride Home... Both Sides Now... a few others... most recently Hissing of Summer Lawns (which is quite 70s sounding, isn't it? I love it) So there we go. I've got a lot of material to go. But I hate to rush it-- because then I don't give each work its proper chance. eric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:10:46 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: joni moments I was born a Jersey girl ( "I'm from New Jersey, I don't expect too much" John Gorka). Went to Woodstock under the threat of running away when my parents forbid it. I just knew it was going to be a lifetime event. Music was my life & I spent many hours in my room day dreaming, playing guitar, writing songs, & learning other people's songs. CSN & Joni wrote the soundtrack to those years. When I heard the song Woodstock, I couldn't believe that she hadn't even been there because she really captured the essence of the experience. We had to walk up a loooooooooong road, seems like it was miles, from the place we parked to the festival site, and met lots of folks walking or hanging out along the way (I came upon a child of god, he was walking along the road). After the rains, there were some helicopters flying over the crowd (I dreamed I saw the bombers flying shotgun in the sky, turning into butterflies across our nation) and I swear I saw them dropping flowers out of the sky over the crowd. Or was it a dream? After Woodstock I went out to California to "get back to the garden" and "join a rock & roll band". I lived for several years in a commune where we grew all our food & had health food stores in town. We wrote & played our original music & gave a lot of concerts. Over the years, I have met many of the people who wrote the songs I used to listen to in my youth & some of them have even become good friends. Its just amazing to me how some of my half forgotten dreams have come to fruition. Not that I haven't been through some real hard times in my life but I really believe that dreams can come true. For several years I have had a card up on my refrigerator that says, I focus on what I love and thus draw it to me. Sure works for me. ******************************************** Kate Bennett www.katebennett.com www.cdbaby.com/katebennett www.amazon.com "bringing the melancholy world of twilight to life almost like magic…the album grows more intriguing with repeated listening" All Music Guide "lyrically, it's a work of art overall" Indie-Music.com ******************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 16:54:19 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Still get my feet up to dance << Is Joni danceable? >> Don't forget the danceable covers others have done; Viola Wells' disco cover of BSN the most obvious, but there are several others out there as well. So Joni is danceable, it depends on the performance, and then again, one COULD potentially dance to anything...I heard from a secret unreliable source that Jimmy the Ice Skater is preparing a routine to Paprika Plains to perform on Ashara's Deck. This in and of itself would be a reason to be there! ;~) Bob NP: Ani, "Hurricane", from her new one "Swing Set"...WOW! What a fabulous cover of this Dylan song... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:57:09 -0700 From: RandyRemote Subject: Joni part of new "Artists' Coalition" You may remember a recent thread brought on by Joni's statement that "Henley is on the warpath again", and conjecture that she may have been referring to the "work for hire" legislation that would abolish the recapture of artist copyrights after a certain period of years, that is, the record companies would retain those intellectual properties in perpetuity. Henley has cofounded, along with Sheryl Crow, the first organization dedicated to musicians' rights, called the Artists' Coalition. Joni Mitchell is listed as a member. It now looks as though this repressive piece of legislation, which was buried in a budget bill, will be repealed. The RIAA (Record Industry Assoc. of America) has tried to claim this law was passed to squelch cybersquatters who seek to claim domain names of artists. They also claimed that this legislation was never considered before, but new information has shown that they have been working on it for 10 years, longer than the cybersquatter issue has existed. The following is a list, published in Billboard, of the members of the Artists' Coalition. Clint Black, Jimmy Buffet, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Terri Clark, Shawn Colvin, David Crosby, Sheryl Crow, Pat DiNizio, Dixie Chicks, Adam Duritz, Steve Earle, Melissa Etheridge, Ron Fierstein, Nanci Griffith, Hanson, Emmylou Harris, Don Henley, Faith Hill, Bruce Hornsby, Luscious Jackson, Billy Joel, Alan Koinig, Peggy Lee, Courtney Love, Dave Matthews, Tim McGraw, John Mellencamp, Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks, Q-Tip, Bonnie Raitt, R.E.M., Kenny Rogers, Linda Ronstadt, Raphael Saadig, Carly Simon, Paul Simon, Ronnie Spector, Bruce Springsteen, Ron Stone, Suzzane Vega, Dar Williams, Trisha Yearwood, Dwight Yoakum. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:00:25 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's "middle period" voice, moments Mark wrote: > I was just emailing Kakki about this last night. The voice >changed just in the short space between 'Blue' and 'Court >and Spark'. I don't know if there was a shift in how she >chose to use it or the timbre actually changed or it was the >way MOA was mixed or what. But to me her renditions on >MOA of the afore-mentioned songs have a fuller sound to the >voice. Her voice definitely went through some subtle changes during this period. I wonder if the primary switch to playing piano for awhile after Blue affected the way she sang? While I was thrilled to be at the MOA concert (8/17/74) there was a bit of an adjustment for me to see her sitting mostly at the piano with a new, somewhat regal and sophisticated image. I had a slight fear that she may have been losing a bit of her delightful innocence and turning into more of a serious "chanteuse." Well, that was just the naive thinking of the young girl in me at the time. ;-) But at the time I did notice that the piano playing served to slow down her singing somehow. It seemed more thoughtful and measured to me. When I go back now and re-listen to that concert and to the live recordings from the FTR period, I strongly feel that she was at the apex of her vocal abilities during that time. As for Joni moments, I've written about more than a few here over the years. I remember exactly where I was the first time I listened to each album (most of them in order as they were released). Marilyn's post today about loving C&S and being in Arizona when MOA was released brought back my C&S memory. I was also in Arizona in college then. Having to live in tiny dorm rooms throughout my time there, I was always forced to sprawl out on a piece of floor to do my painting and drawing assignments. I remember one afternoon listening to the radio, sprawled out and getting oil paint all over me, when the DJ announced a new song by Joni Mitchell. It was "Help Me" and I just sat there in a happy trance with a big silly smile on my face talking to mys elf "oh ho ho ho, there she does it again." I promptly abandoned my homework and hurried down the block to the record store to pick up C&S. Homework completely forgotten I brought it back and played it endlessly for the next several hours and think I knew all the words by heart by the end of the night. ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:16:51 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni part of new "Artists' Coalition" << Henley has cofounded, along with Sheryl Crow, the first organization dedicated to musicians' rights, called the Artists' Coalition. Joni Mitchell is listed as a member. >> Joni talks about this during her stage patter in the Chicago show from this year, fwiw... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:47:02 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: John Martyn does Woodstock? Does anybody know if John Martyn's version of "Woodstock" is Joni's song? It's on his "Stormbringer" record... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:49:34 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Still get my feet up to dance In a message dated 7/29/00 4:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << So Joni is danceable, it depends on the performance, and then again, one COULD potentially dance to anything...I heard from a secret unreliable source that Jimmy the Ice Skater is preparing a routine to Paprika Plains to perform on Ashara's Deck. >> LOL, I would have attempted Paprika Plains, but since I was hit with a hammer by Tanya Muller I'm going to have to slow the routine down. I'm planning on a pairs rountine with Kakki Yamaguchi to the tune of "Smokin' (Empty Try Another) :~) Jimmy, who really can't ice skate ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:56:26 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's "middle period" voice, moments (MD) Im wrapping up my review of Dog Eat Dog for the list and it has been very noticeable to me that on this album Joni has really changed in her vocals. I thought the changes on C&S are simply due to what happens when you go from singing with a single or sparse accompanyment to singing with a band or orchestra. On DED her voice has really changed. marcel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:16:10 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Still get my feet up to dance << I'm planning on a pairs rountine with Kakki Yamaguchi to the tune of "Smokin' (Empty Try Another) :~) >> Do "I's A Muggin"...it's shorter still! ;~D Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:52:51 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: re: DJRD Bob wrote: <> I must admit I have been giving my Hejira CD a real work out too...there's something very special about that album - you can't help but cry and cry - yet be comforted at the same time. And BSN is proving to be a wonderful 'break-up' CD for me (not that the word wonderful is at all appropriate for the emotional pain I have been going thru...but I know you all know what I mean) "you've changed, that sparkle in your eyes is gone".... Thanks to the listers that responded to my post... Ange Sydney (dreading the Olympics BTW) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:55:14 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni part of new "Artists' Coalition" I'm encouraged to read your words "it looks as if this...will be repealed." But I'd be interested in knowing what makes you believe this. If you wouldn't mind posting some evidence that led you to your (hopefully accurate) opinion, I'd appreciate that. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 22:01:10 EDT From: MP123A321@aol.com Subject: big yellow taxi - animated clip There is a video for auction featuring an animated clip of Big Yellow Taxi on Ebay. This was recently discussed on here. I hope someone has better luck than I do as I have bid on it several times in the past 2 years and still haven't gotten a copy. BTW, it is fairly common and on Ebay a lot. Maurice Click here: eBay item 395342012 (Ends Aug-07-00 21:17:37 PDT) - VHS Video Fantastic All Electric Music Movie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 23:33:00 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: F&J Cover Art Hi everyone, The cover art is finally available at: http://www.jmdl.com/trading/jcard/flotsam-jetsamvol1/ NP-Pink Floyd, Time - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:21:07 -0700 From: Emmy M Burns Subject: Re: Memorable Moments/Cashier perks Kevin and all other grocery shoppers-- I work in a grocery store and one of the benefits of the job is that on a day to day basis I get to hear Joni singing to the beat of the cash register purr. I was surprised to hear tunes from HOSL, "Edith and the Kingpin" is a regular treat as are the standards BYT, BSN and as you mentioned "Come in from the Cold" is also a staple. As the great woman would say "I'm a lucky girl..." -Emmy ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #313 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?