From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #300 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, July 19 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 300 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #399 [Michael Paz ] "Hejira" from what? ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Joni's Viewpoints [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Joni Pics [Michael Paz ] RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #399 ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Joni Pics ["Ken (slarty)" ] Re: Joni's Viewpoints [pat holden ] feminism ["Kate Bennett" ] Video Notice [AsharaJM@aol.com] Re: feminism [pat holden ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:41:13 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #399 on 7/18/00 2:02 PM, JMDL Digest at les@jmdl.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 06:38:57 -0300 > From: "Wally Kairuz" > Subject: RE: Joni misquoted? > > yes, if i remember it well, joni said that homosexual designers were making > women look more like men so that it would be easier for homosexuals to look > like women. > again, i want to make sure that EVERYBODY understands i'm not accusing joni > of anything. it's just that i think that joni is possibly a more > conservative person than it might at first seem. so please, stop the > private, cowardly flaming. you know who are and you belong in the > inquisition. > wallyk Wally Who is doing this? We'll rip em to shreads! We are not going to tolerate this kind of behaviour on the list anymore. Please forward me any abusive private emails and I will make a report. Have you noticed that Nuriel/Ada is no longer among us? Michael (serious now instead of salacious) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:43:17 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Hejira" from what? Bruce Merrill wondered, > PPS hmmmm, What was the destination for Joni's Hejira? The literal fact, as I remember it, is amazingly banal for such a fantastic final product (the Hejira album). As I remember, Joan was attempting to drive her east-coast car to Los Angeles without being discovered as an un-licensed driver. Hence the danger. Much, much more about Hejira, and it's makings is (are?) available at JJ's and Les'es respective sites. Jim Johanson is doing an excellent job of preserving Wally Bresse's historical sections of www.jonimitchell.com even as JJ expands Wally's vision. Tons of Joni lore is included in the above mentioned web page, available free, 24 hours per day. My crawfish-eating buddy Les Irvin also has tons of INDEXED articles / interviews with Our Lady of Duality on his crucial www.jmdl.com Also Les he has posted some new photos of the JoniFest held in New Orleans, Louisiana at http://www.jmdl.com/jonifest/jfno2000.cfm Mine are the ones that are out-of-focus. :( My fav photo? Cindy and Bry-Bry in the balcony at the Howlin' Wolf. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:43:53 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Viewpoints In a message dated 7/18/00 10:38:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, emmy34@juno.com writes: << If she could expand her concept of feminism beyond "apartheid man-haters" I think she might see that you are either a feminist--believing that women have the same right to achieve their potential as men--or, as Ani Difranco so frankly put it, "you're a sexist. There is no box marked other." >> But there is an "other." It's called humanism, the basis of which is written in the Declaration of Independence, which I would modernize to say that "all humans are created equal." Frankly, my dear, if you're a feminist, you are also a sexist. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:57:44 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Joni Pics Ken Thank you so much to you and to Pat for making these fotos available to us folks with real computers (Macs) lol ;-} I love them and the Mac prog is real cool as well. I can't wait to add more jpgs to my list. Peace Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:26:55 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #399 that's all right, michael! i almost enjoy mauling these cowards and pricks on my own. in fact, i'm spitting out a mouthful of bones as i write. but it's great to know that i have such a fierce big brother in case they gang up on me! wallyk, NO claws for now withdrawn > Wally > Who is doing this? We'll rip em to shreads! We are not going to tolerate > this kind of behaviour on the list anymore. Please forward me any abusive > private emails and I will make a report. Have you noticed that Nuriel/Ada is > no longer among us? > > Michael (serious now instead of salacious) > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 23:28:35 -0400 From: "Ken (slarty)" Subject: Re: Joni Pics It was really on Pat's instance that I put up that program (thank God he's finally stopped throwing rocks at my house), but I'm glad you enjoy it - no matter what piece of junk you run it on. Michael Paz wrote: > Ken > Thank you so much to you and to Pat for making these fotos available to us > folks with real computers (Macs) lol ;-} > I love them and the Mac prog is real cool as well. I can't wait to add more > jpgs to my list. > > Peace > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:10:48 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: Joni's Viewpoints our fearless Paul wrote: <> and Mags replied in her weary state: oh Paul, I hang my head in shame. You leave me speechless. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:09:33 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: feminism Emmy I don't think that Joni said anything about being anti feminist at all. Kakki spoke elequently about why someone might not want to be labeled. It is not about the ideas, its about the label. Emmy wrote: That's my belief anyway and although I admire Joni beyond description I cannot figure the anti-feminist side of her out ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 02:33:01 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Video Notice My dear, dear friends, I feel I may have done you a disservice. In my excitement to get this Mendel tape out as fast as possible, I started in on this video project as soon as I got home, and have been working on it for several days. I realize that I am feeling overwhelmed to say the least. Believe it or not, I am leaving again Friday for a week, a committment that at this point I wish I had not made, but alas, I did make it. I am trying to get the extra 45 Mendel catalogs taken care of, messages for Jonifest out, setting up branches for this next set of videos, etc.- all before Friday, because most likely I will not have access to e-mail for a week. I realize that in order to leave again, I must first take care of the immediately personal things that have piled up for the past 3 weeks. My children are coming home from camp tomorrow, and they are my first priority. So.....I am temporarily putting the project on hold for several weeks so I can get my life back in order. The fact is, I think I temporarily lost my sanity, and let my incredible enthusiasm overtake any sense of rationality. I really do want to get this in everyone's hands, and I will, believe me. I am just feeling incredibly overwhelmed right now. I hope you understand. Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 02:57:39 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: feminism Kate Bennett wrote: > Emmy I don't think that Joni said anything about being anti feminist at all. > Kakki spoke elequently about why someone might not want to be labeled. It is > not about the ideas, its about the label. > > Emmy wrote: That's my belief anyway and although I admire Joni beyond > description I > cannot figure the anti-feminist side of her out and Mags, smitten with insomnia wrote: I still feel that you can live into whatever your definition of feminism is and be strong and sure of your convictions without the need or want of fitting into the box of a definition created by someone else. hopefully, this makes sense. - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #300 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?