From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #278 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, July 6 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 278 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The First Two Hours in S'toon [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: hello looking for cd #1 [Steven Barton ] Re: Joni's interactive ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Art Reports from Canada! ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Not to Blame ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Saskatoon ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Catalogues from the Mendel. ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: saskatoon high (pt.1-very long) ["Helen M. Adcock" ] SASKATOON ADVENTURE ["kerry" ] Re: Hellos and Sk'toon tidbits. ["Alison Einerson" ] reply for Scott 5/23 NYC show ["c Karma" ] my mom-unhappy with Joni [Relayer211@aol.com] [none] [Steve Polifka ] Re: Hellos and Sk'toon tidbits. [RandyRemote ] Jeff Buckley [Jerry Notaro ] Joel Bernstein segment on 48 Hours [Mark Domyancich ] Re: reply for Scott 5/23 NYC show [Seulbzzaj@aol.com] Re: Joel Bernstein segment on 48 Hours [Kenny Grant ] S'toon [evian ] Re: Joel Bernstein segment on 48 Hours ["Kakki" ] saskatoon high (pt.2 very very long) [susan+rick ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:30:46 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: The First Two Hours in S'toon Hi Guys! I still haven't collected my thoughts about the trip to S'toon yet, but did want to get this portion of my post off to the JMDL. After readying my mindset by putting Paprika Plains on repeat for our flight from Calgary to S'toon, our plane landed with me properly tuned for the land of Joni. ;-) Rick was a little tired after the flights, so soon after we checked into our room and unpacked at the Bessborough, he said he wanted to stay back and relax awhile. I felt like getting some stuff done, so left for the bank to exchange currency and take what I thought was the very short walk to scope out the Mendel--after all it was such a beautiful day -- albeit maybe a little warmer than I prefer. The Bess to the Mendel -- five blocks my ass! ;-) Anyway, after hoofing it to the Mendel I pop into the gift shop to find out what all will be available the next night. (No Catherine, no "Joni soap on a rope." ;-) I ask a very pleasant and helpful gift shop clerk a series of questions then go out to the back to see the set-up for the exhibit opening's reception. Spent a few minutes looking at the Wild Things Run Fast painting in the lobby, amazed at the size of that one!! Remembered one more question I wanted to ask the clerk so raised my index finger motioning I had one more query, but before I got to the gift shop door she smiled and called out to me "Ya know, why don't you just ask Joni? She just got here and is standing alone out front." I motioned a thank you and headed out front. Joni was outside, standing with the brick facade bearing the Mendel's name as a backdrop as Joni let one photographer take a couple of pictures of her. At this point, I was purposely standing just far enough away to not muddy up the pic with my ugly mug ;-), and Gilles Hebert was getting out of the black Mercedes sedan in which he had just brought Joni. Another picture was then taken with Hebert next to Joni. The photographer thanked Joni for her time then she turned to me. Something strange has happened both times I've talked with Joni -- I turn almost business like in my address and become very uncomfortable. All sorts of things race through my head -- "just because you know all her lyrics, just because you've read every interview you know of, just because you've followed her career very closely for over 25 years now -- you don't actually know Joni. And she sure as hell doesn't know you from Adam. Say what you want to say Pen and don't waste any more of her time!" All I wanted to say to Joni this time was "hi" and to extend best wishes for the exhibit. But the "hi" I was extending wasn't from me. I let her know that I promised if the opportunity presented itself I was going to say "hi" from a couple of people she knew from the early Detroit days. She said "Sure. Now who would that be?" "Well, Joni, Pat Bolan (Henry) says hi!" Joni, "Oh sure!!" Pat she remembered you instantly with a smile on her face! I passed on that Pat told me to tell you, he still has a mad crush on you and congratulations for so successfully bringing your art to people. Pat, you got a lovely "Ohhhh, that's sweet." Then I asked your question. "Joni, Pat has always wanted to know if you were the one that got the record people to come calling on him." At this point Joni got fuzzy in her recall "Oh, that was so many years ago -- I may have -- I can't remember." Then I said "oh and one more thing -- Pat says, for heaven's sake write!" Hebert pops in and laughs -- "that's what everyone wants Joni to do!" We laughed for a minute over that one and then I mention Sid -- she didn't remember him until I gave more specifics of the club they played together and that he looked just like Jerry Garcia. I express my enthusiasm for the exhibit, thank her for her time with me and also for letting us all finally see a greater portion of her paintings. I tell Joni I hope she has as fabulous time both opening night and the entire run of the show. She verbally thanks me and I turn around and walk back to the Bess. No hug, like someone else reported. I just get to darn business-like when I talk to her and put up a stiff, unapproachable front. If I had known I was going to run into Joni, I probably would have had a couple of drinks between the bank and the Mendel and things would have been more relaxed. But then again, after a couple of shots maybe I would have forgotten Pat's last name from his Detroit days. I'll happily pass on being relaxed enough to get a famous *Joni hug*, in exchange for being able to fulfill a promise. ;-) Blessings, Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us versus them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 00:32:55 -0700 From: Steven Barton Subject: Re: hello looking for cd #1 In this case, I believe Brian is legit. I have traded with him before. He is clearly in it for the music. Steve Mark Domyancich wrote: > > Watch out for these guys - use your discretion when trading with > these people! (IMO some are only joining this great list of ours to > get these CDs and then sell them on eBay.) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:12:00 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Joni's interactive Raffaele wrote: >There are some good pages about Joni Mitchell on the Art and Culture web >site at: > >http://www.artandculture.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/ACLive.woa/wa/artist?id=247 Nice site, and some links to other Joni sites, although once again they've got the Rolling Stone quote wrong - not "Worst Album of the Year" but "Worst Album TITLE of the Year"! But I'm a little concerned about the map they've used, since it appears I am now sitting somewhere in the middle of the Pacific! Why does New Zealand never make it on to these maps! Hell - getting a rather large inferiority complex! _____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:13:22 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Art Reports from Canada! John wrote: >I’d like to offer my thanks, also, to Rick , Ashara and all the others >who have posted news (both first-hand and gathered) from Canada. It’s >been greatly appreciated. Me too! Sorry, I know that's frowned upon, but it's the only thing I can say! And I was right. I'm jealous as hell (no pun intended). Hell _____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:27:55 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Not to Blame I've thought long and hard about this subject over the last couple of days, and I've really enjoyed the discussions and debates. But I'd like to add my two cents worth. My initial bull-at-a-gate, knee-jerk reaction was "If Joni wrote it, it must be true". Stupid, I know, but sometimes I get a little one-eyed. So I've sifted through all the articles people have posted, and searched the JMDL articles as well, to try and get as much background as I can. And I keep coming back to the same thing. If it's not about Jackson Browne, then why did he get all bent out of shape about it, and tell everyone what a nasty person Joni Mitchell is for writing this song about him? If he'd kept quiet, most of us would be none the wiser. I haven't heard Jackson's music, and I don't know much about him, so I had no idea his first wife committed suicide, so I would probably never have connected him to the song. Sure there was the whole Daryl Hannah thing, but there have been numerous case of famous couples in domestic disputes. Joni could have been writing about any one of them, and in all the articles I read, the only name I can remember Joni specifically mentioning in association with this song, was OJ Simpson. I know that the song was written before Nicole's murder, but he had hit her before, and (I may be wrong) but I assumed the previous assaults had made the news. To me it just comes back to "he doth protest too much". If Jackson was innocent, he wouldn't be upset. If Joni was directly pointing the finger at him, and at him alone, rather than a more general audience, she would have said so. Let's face it, she has never been known for not expressing her opinions in no uncertain terms in the past! That's one of the things I like about her song-writing, It's "in your face" and "up close and personal". Anyway, feel free to disagree at will, but I just wanted to add my opinion on the matter. Hell _____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:41:48 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Saskatoon Deb wrote: >I, too, have been awestruck by the Saskatoon reports and more than a little >jealous. I've had two Saskatoon dreams! Not you as well! I've had three in the past week! Two were pretty disjointed and confusing, but the third was incredible. I feel like I've met Joni now! There were about 30 listers at the exhibition in an anonymous city. We'd all decided to go for a drink after the gallery closed. Joni and her entourage had gone to some private restaurant and were nowhere to be found. I decided to go for a walk down the street, and at the end, by a little park, I discovered a beatiful little fountain with coloured lights outside some public toilets - I know, it sounds gross, but it wasn't, I promise! I was sitting there admiring the lights, when Joni came out of the Ladies, wiping her hands on her skirt! She walked past me and smiled, then I suddenly got my nerve, and said "Excuse me Joni, but I just have to tell you I think you're the most incredible singer, song-writer and artist on the planet!" (gush, gush)! I know, I was pathetic. Truly pathetic. Anyway, she turned and gave me a huge smile, and said, "Oh, you must be from the discussion list! Every nice person I've met today is on the list!" Then she walked over and gave me a big hug, and said "Thank you so much. It's people like you that make me keep doing what I'm doing." Then she walked off into the night. I then proceeded to rush back to the bar and say "Guess what just happened to me!" to every single lister I could see! Rubbing everyone's nose in my triumph! Now if only it was for real! Hell _____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:00:30 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Catalogues from the Mendel. John wrote: >I don't know if its been posted, so forgive me duplicating any old news. > >The Mendel has been having trouble with their server and so one cannot >as yet buy the catalogue on line. It should be fixed this week. (Maybe >even now.) So keep popping in and enjoy the show when you do get to see >it. Personally, I'd rather they hadn't tried illuminating the text with >song lyrics. That's too easy. The woman is a font of information, witty >stories and experiences. But then, that's just my 2 cents... who'd care? I've been having trouble with the on-line ordering too. First there were only two countries (Canada and the US) listed. I know you guys are big, but jeez! After sending an email to them about that (it's now fixed) there's now a problem with the International State/Province (since it only lists Canadian and US - what a surprise!), and after filling in all the fields, including Hawaii as my state (I figured it's the closest to NZ) it's still saying I haven't filled in the "box" field. I've checked the page as it stands, and the HTML behind it, and there is no "box" field that I can see! So if anyone's considering ordering on-line, I suggest you wait a couple of days until they iron out the bugs! Or if you have succeeded, drop me a line, and tell me how. I don't want to miss out on my catalogue and poster - I've promised them to myself as a birthday present (along with 50 other things that I can't afford, let alone pay for, but I'll worry about that later)! Hell _____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:02:44 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: saskatoon high (pt.1-very long) Rick wrote: >And you know, the rest of the day is not too clear in my mind. I know we >went back to the Bessborough Hotel and met up with more Listers: Mary >Pitassi and I think Kerry (Keri?) from Milwaukee (email name--Myrtlemoo) and >others but, I'm sorry, it's a blur now. Made plans for Friday and went back >to the U-district for the night, walking in the balmy twilight, the breeze >wafting the green riverside smells through the air, dreamland comin' on. > >More to come (if you want it) If we want it? How else am I going to live my life vicariously through every other lister here, if you don't post more! And be swift about it - I'm almost going into withdrawal! Seriously, I loved your post, and I can't wait for the next instalment - and that goes for everyone! Get typing! Hell _____________________________ "To have great poets, there must be great audiences too." - Walt Whitman hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:44:57 -0500 From: "kerry" Subject: SASKATOON ADVENTURE I think I've finally recovered from the excitement and lack of sleep, so I'll try to organize my thoughts about Saskatoon. My trip started out a little tentative. After my first plane took off, I thought, "What am I doing?" I had never traveled alone before and here I was flying to Canada to meet up with a group of people I had never met! I was comforted by reading a book I had brought full of adventures of women traveling alone. Then Canadian customs made me a little nervous. The officer asked me, "Are you meeting people there?" and "Why are you going so far for only 3 days??" How do you explain going to Canada for an art gallery opening and meeting people you only know from the internet? :>) He let me in anyway. I got in late Thursday evening and learned the meaning of sleeping "on the strange pillows of my wanderlust." Friday morning I woke up early and decided to go into town and walk around. The first thing I did was walk along the river and take a few pictures of the bridges. It was beautiful! I then walked toward S'toon's mall and saw a person with a Joni shirt - Penny, my first lister! She took me back to the Bess where Joni was staying and there I met Mary P. and Jim Johanson. We chatted for quite a long time and I loved listening to his stories about Wally. We ended up meeting Val and Chris, two very nice friends of Joni's. Shortly after, all the listers started gathering and it was so wonderful to meet everyone! We were supposed to go to lunch, but Joni's friends said she was coming down soon. We eventually saw the Mendel director use the house phone and assumed he was alerting her to not come through the lobby. Then out of the corner of my eye, I saw a woman in yellow get off the elevator and duck out the side door. We all went out to the sidewalk and there she was!!!!! I nervously snapped a few pictures and David Mingus had a picture taken with her. All I could do was stand there and look! After she walked down the street, I was literally shaking!!! We all had brunch and talked and agreed to meet at the gallery at 6:00. A group of us waited outside enviously watching the lucky people attending the private reception. Then, as it got closer to 8:00, the crowd started closing in. I saw Rick (rick+susan) had already secured a place on the sidewalk in front of the gallery, so I ran up to join him. Thanks Rick! We had to crouch down because the T.V. people kept telling us they needed a clear view. We ended up being about five feet from Joni's chair!!! She finally came out and was seated next to Bill, Myrtle and the premier of Saskatchewan. I took about 10 pictures. This time I wasn't as shaky, but still nervous. I loaded my next roll of film wrong and my shirt got stuck in the the back of the camera!! It was so incredible being so close to her. Even though I was in pain from kneeling on the hard sidewalk, it was worth it. I swear she smiled at me, but who knows - it could be my wishful thinking! After this, we were allowed to go through the gallery. I wanted to go back to the gallery the next day and really enjoy her paintings, so I went through briefly and hoped I'd see Joni outside at the reception. She came out about 20 mins later, but was unfortunately mobbed by fans wanting autographs. I admit I was near her, but didn't want to be rude about getting her attention. A group of us went back in the gallery later and really studied everything. I was not prepared for what I saw. I felt like I was being affected by Joni in a whole new way. First blown away by her music and now by her beautiful art! When I heard ACOY being played while looking at her paintings, I was very close to tears. It had been "THE BEST DAY!" as Amy and I kept repeating over and over. It was so wonderful to walk around discussing the paintings with all the other Joni people. We went back about 3 times and I couldn't believe how I'd see something new in a painting or photograph each time. WHAT a weekend! I was a little disappointed that I didn't get to meet Joni (boo hoo), but I'm happy that so many listers did!! I loved hearing how gracious and friendly she was with everyone. When I found my seat on the plane for home, there was a jazz station playing and "You've Changed" came on (Billie's version). I couldn't believe it! I thought about how I changed. I successfully ventured out on my own, had 3 close encounters with the goddess, saw her artistry firsthand and met a lot of beautiful, funny, wonderful people! Let's not talk about fare-thee-wells now The night is a starry dome Kerry P.S. Mary, Jack, Rick, John, Amy, Ashara, Sal & Jim -- If you're ever in Milwaukee, stop by and I'd be glad to take you all out for canned soup!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:52:07 -0600 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: Re: Hellos and Sk'toon tidbits. Thank you Thank you Thank you! to John, Kerry, Coyote, Penny, Ashara and everyone who have posted about these amazing adventures in S'toon. It is as much like being there as possible, and I am reading all of them with such joy. Penny, I think I would probably have the same reaction as you upon meeting Joni; I would have to be business-like in order to keep myself from imploding! Kerry, your tale of traveling alone was so sweet! Good for you! I am excited for the tape tree, and can't wait to see the pictures and so forth from the various folks who braved concrete and mobs to get the shots. I look forward to every tidbit from every lister. Congrats to all of you, for going and for bringing it all back to us. alison e. in slc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:39:32 PDT From: "c Karma" Subject: reply for Scott 5/23 NYC show Scott, Your tape has been delivered to Joni by Ralph, the Concertmaster for all the BSN shows. He gave it a listen before getting it to her and thought it was terrific, so he said when I met him in Saskatoon last Friday. Thought you'd like confirmation. CC ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:46:05 EDT From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: my mom-unhappy with Joni My mom is a big Joni Mitchell fan like I am,but she was very unimpressed with Joni when we saw her in concert.She thought Joni had totally lost her voice,and she thought Joni was cold and arrogant.she called Joni a "hippie diva". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:20:11 -0500 From: Steve Polifka Subject: [none] Pearl was keeping a secret from us.... Happy Birthday Pearl! There... your secret's safe with me... LOL Steve Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:11:13 -0700 From: RandyRemote Subject: Re: Hellos and Sk'toon tidbits. Thanks to all the Saskatoon correspondents. It's been the next best thing to actually going there. My curiousity is peaked; how much are they asking for Joni's paintings? (see below) Richard Rice wrote: > And yes gang, > let's all dig in our pockets. The paintings are ALL up for sale!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:32:08 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Jeff Buckley Finally got to see the bonus material on the Jeff Buckley Live in Chicago dvd. In one segment he describes what he listened to growing up that had influenced him: "Acoustic Dylan, CSNY, and Joni Mitchell. Lots and lots of Joni." Though I know I should not have been surprised, I was, and also quite thrilled since I think Jeff was an immense talent. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:19:32 -0500 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Joel Bernstein segment on 48 Hours Hi everyone, I felt that since so many of you have posted about Larry I wanted to post about the credit of producer to Joel Bernstein for a segment on 48 Hours that ran last night. It was about Melissa Ethridge and her partner's baby with a little help from David Crosby. I guess he must have done some photo shoots for the segment. I normally don't watch CBS (except for Survivor) but this one caught my attention. Now let's see how many replies this one gets! (My guess: 0) :-D NP-Joni, 10/19/77 DePauw Univ.-Blue Motel Room - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:34:32 EDT From: Seulbzzaj@aol.com Subject: Re: reply for Scott 5/23 NYC show In a message dated 7/5/00 1:44:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ckarma@hotmail.com writes: << Scott, Your tape has been delivered to Joni by Ralph, the Concertmaster for all the BSN shows. He gave it a listen before getting it to her and thought it was terrific, so he said when I met him in Saskatoon last Friday. Thought you'd like confirmation. >> Thanks so much for letting me know that! I really appreciate it. - Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:58:56 +0000 From: Kenny Grant Subject: Re: Joel Bernstein segment on 48 Hours Hey Mark, I'm mainly writing to prove you wrong and show you that your this post did get at least ONE reply -- also to say a friendly hello, been inactive (just lurking) on the JMDL for a loooong time now. Sorry to say I missed 48 Hours, would have liked to have seen it. And I bet this gets a reponse from Kakki (Hi Kakki!) I recall a post or two of hers from last year where she met Joel, who graciously invited her up to his place to show her some Joni photos and assorted memorabilia. I also recall her saying something to the effect that he's her biggest fan. Then again, I think most of us here on the JMDL are her biggest fans :-( That's really hard to quantify though -- whether you listen to her music daily -- or a couple of times a week -- or just have a beaming glow when you see her perform live. Or are a musician who's been impacted by her work......whatever :-) Best, -Kenny np Joni singing "For The Roses" in NYC 5/22 Mark Domyancich wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I felt that since so many of you have posted about Larry I wanted to > post about the credit of producer to Joel Bernstein for a segment on > 48 Hours that ran last night. It was about Melissa Ethridge and her > partner's baby with a little help from David Crosby. I guess he must > have done some photo shoots for the segment. I normally don't watch > CBS (except for Survivor) but this one caught my attention. > > Now let's see how many replies this one gets! (My guess: 0) :-D > > NP-Joni, 10/19/77 DePauw Univ.-Blue Motel Room > > -- > Mark Domyancich > Harpua@revealed.net > tape trading: http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/ > "Close it yourself, shitty!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:56:39 -0600 From: evian Subject: S'toon Hey Listas, Still haven't had time to post about the Mendel, but I will give a condensed version now. Got to S'toon about 11 am or so, after staying up until 2:30 am trying to get my house in order for my guests that were arriving in my absence. Went immediately to the Bess. and ran into two women in the lobby wearing Joni shirts, which was a dead giveaway that they were list members. Turns out that they were Kerry and Penny. Went from the lobby to Penny's room, where she bestowed me with awesome gifts - -- a tribute t-shirt and a pack of American smokes! Penny is great, just as I imagined her to be. I wish we could have had some time to have a few drinks and get rowdy, but time was short that night! Anyway, after visiting with Penny and Rick, Ashara and Sal popped down, and we heard about Ashara and Penny's encounters with Joni the night before. Then, we all converged on the lobby where most of the other JMDLers were, and everyone introduced themselves to each other. Following this, we had the Joni encounter on the street outside the hotel, where David Mingus had his pic taken with our Joan. Before we actually saw Joni, I was thinking "Oh, it will be no big deal if we see her, blah blah blah" but it was SO surreal to see her on the street in front of us. After this encounter, I talked to Kerry and we both were a little shellshocked to have seen her. It was so exciting to have another Jonifile to freak out with at that moment! Even my non-Joni-friendly wife was excited after this. She also got some good pics of her. After lunch, when we all split up for the rest of the afternoon, my wife suggested that we drive by the Mendel just to see what was up there (even though we knew that the private thing was going on). Well, we drive by, and see Joni outside with the Mendel dude, smoking. of course, I freak out, so we turn around and park and cross the street. We walk up to the gallery, and to look like we were doing something, I say to this guy "what time does the giftshop open?" and he says "I dunno, I'm just a sound man". So, we continue walking when low and behold, Joni and the Mendel dude are walking towards us. Well, I freak out (you know me) and refuse to even look in their direction. I light up a smoke and just start trucking along as fast as I can and then I hear Tracy say "Hi there..." blah blah blah, and she asks Joni for a pic, so Joni poses with me, and then she holds me hand, and I start babbling and giggling like a schoolgirl, and it was so embarrassing now that I think about it - -- but damn it was cool! I said I was from the list, and she was all "oh, how nice" or something. Anyway, it was funny, because after this I am all freaking out, and we cross the street, and then we hear someone yelling. We turn around, and the sound guy we talked to before stood up on something and pumped his fist and yelled "Way to go!" It was funny, but maybe you had to be there. Anyway, to cut to the chase -- We hung out for a few hours before 8 with the gang -- Mary, Kerry, Kate and Emil, Rick and Rick, John, Gay, Brian (God I feel like a dork -- I didn't even realize you were from S'toon -- You musta thought "what a dork, I know she's never played in s'toon" -- Anyway, I think we have a friend in common!). Hmmm, I am forgetting so many people -- sorry, I can't think right now. We also had a few lucky ones who snuck into the Mendel during the invite only preview! The show itself was awesome -- I really didn't think I'd give a rat's ass about the work, but damn, I can't wait to go back. My fave was the one of Don Freed (who got off our elevator on our floor, and who also chewed gum all through the thing like cud, but whatever), the one from TTT. My God, it was amazing. I also kept going back to one of Klein sleeping with the cat, and no, I don't remember what either were called. Anyway, y'all gotta check this out, I was impressed, and again, I didn't think I would be as amazed as I was. Found Joni's hiding spot at the Mendel -- she was up this staircase in the section of the gallery where they had all these children's art works - she was there everytime we went back there, but we didn't approach her, as she was pretty much mobbed whenever we saw her walking around, and so I figured the last thing she needed was her hiding place being invaded my us. Also crossed her on the stairway, and tried to be oh so cool about it but I am sure I wasn't fooling anyone. It was really annoying that she had what we called "the posse" around her all the time, but whatever. Anyway, after walking back to the hotel in the pouring rain, we went up to Ashara and Sal's, where we had a bite to eat, Ashara and I traded assorted goodies that we had for each other, and babbled until 2 am. She was just as I always imagined her to be, and I was secretly contemplating ditching the reunion and work and following them to Edmonton. Oh well, I'll make it to her place one of these days! Unfortunately, we had to leave at the crack of dawn, so I didn't get to say goodbye to anyone. Actually, I hardly got to SEE anyone, but it was still a great trip and I am so glad that everyone came -- it was fabulous to meet all of you! Next time, I say we get really loaded and hit the karaoke! And Kate, look out, I just might take you up on the offer next time we are in Edmonton! So, that's about it for now. Kerry, Mary, Penny, Rick and Ashara -- I hope you kept a twoonie for a souvenier ( you gotta post about the money)! Later gators, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:54:21 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joel Bernstein segment on 48 Hours Kenny wrote: > And I bet this gets a reponse from Kakki (Hi Kakki!) I recall >a post or two of hers from last year where she met Joel, who >graciously invited her up to his place to show her some Joni >photos and assorted memorabilia. I also recall her saying >something to the effect that he's her biggest fan. What?! Oh my, no this never happened. I've never met him. Maybe you are thinking of my run in with Henry Diltz last fall? Diltz took a lot of the gorgeous photos in the early days just as did Bernstein. I've never met Joel Bernstein although I hear great things about him from time to time on the CSN list. And Henry did not invite me over, either. :-) But I will say that I just fell in love (I'm not exaggerating) with him after meeting him - he is a fantastic person. I remember posting that I was just about as high meeting him as meeting Joni for the first time. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:32:09 -0700 From: susan+rick Subject: saskatoon high (pt.2 very very long) Friday morning, bad night's sleep, feeling kind of spacy (not Kevin!), but today is the day! Brilliant sunshiny day again and I stroll across the bridge toward the Mendel, watching the saucy magpies and the fat prairie dogs along the way. Did a bit of shopping downtown and then off to the Bess for brunch with the List. We have a reservation for 20 in the Bess's Bistro but the excitement of possibly sighting Joni causes us to linger in the lobby, chatting, laughing, filling out our wonderful name tags, and quickly glancing over our shoulders every time the elevator doors open. As Kerry reported, Joni did appear, ducking out through the pub doors to avoid the obvious crowd of fans in the lobby (us!). This was the only time that I felt a twinge of conscience, as we rushed out through the lobby doors and held Joni up from making a clean getaway. But she was as gracious as always, pausing to pose with David Mingus before being rushed away. Lunch was a fun time (but not because of the food). In attendance (but I know I'll forget someone): John, Penny (email name: zapuppy), Kerry, Mary, Coyote Rick, Ashara and Sal, Kate, Rob (email name: Evian) and Tracy, David and David, the guys who drove up from Austin (sorry), and Jim Johannson. What a pleasure it was for me to meet Jim. His reminiscences about Wally and his tidbits of info about Joni fascinated all of us all weekend. Six o'clock p.m., the chosen meeting time at the carousel across from the Mendel, and only 3 of us are there. (And I thought I had done such a good job of organizing the rendezvous!) Eventually we wander over to the gallery and find several others near the front doors. We meet Kate's wonderful son Emil, a life-long Joni fan. The crowds expected have not materialized yet; in fact, there are probably only 200 other people besides us. A steady stream of well-dressed invited guests are entering the gallery for the VIP reception, Jim and Ashara among them. The lads from Austin manage to sneak in ("Wait for a disturbance and just walk in.") Leslie (from Boston) shows up after arriving that morning and also manages to get in, largely I think because she is also well-dressed. The guests seem to be presenting the printed announcement card at the door, so Kerry and I decide to bluff our way in, but we are not well-dressed, and our deception falls apart when we are asked for the invitation that came *inside* the announcement card. Oh well. The JMDL name tags prove to be an excellent way to meet people and recruit new listers. Many of us are approached by strangers asking about the JMDL and we pass on the website address with pleasure. I meet Amy from Dallas (originally Detroit, soon to be Boulder) sitting on the grass and, after sharing our mutual love for Joni, I invite her to meet the group. She along with Brian from Saskatoon, and Gay from LA are awarded instant membership to the list and presented with their own name tags. The crowd grew to about 1500 but never reached pre-show estimates of 6-8000. Those numbers may have scared a lot of people away, or perhaps it was just marketing hype. Just before 8 pm we scooted as close as we could to the podium and the crowd flowed in behind us. We had scored the best seats in the house, less than 10 feet from where Joni would sit and unobstructed by anyone, although the camera people who kept tripping over us were a bit annoying. An excited murmur rose from the crowd, the doors opened, and out walked the Queen herself, glowing with happiness, to be greeted by a long, thunderous ovation. After signalling the crowd to cut the applause short (it didn't work), she took her place along with her parents and a host of dignitaries. Because we were sitting or kneeling on the pavement, most of us were in some discomfort but we suffered it gladly for this chance to be close to her. The speakers were all mercifully brief and Joni spoke a bit at the end. No, I don't remember a thing she said, but I know she was beautiful and funny and happy and her voice worked its special magic on me once again. Then it was over, she retreated inside and the crowd was let in, *500* at a time. Needless to say this caused a very unpleasant (for me anyway) crush at the door. I didn't even attempt to get into the gallery proper but instead, opted with several others to buy catalogs and go around the back to the reception tent until the crowds thinned out. We were hoping that Joni would be there to sign our books and it might have happened, but when she eventually tried to get into the tent she was mobbed by the crowd and the media to the extent that she fled quickly, surrounded by her entourage. We consoled ourselves with beer, wine, and cheese cubes for a few hours and enjoyed a Saskatoon light show, a brilliant thunder and lightning storm that blew in around 10 o'clock. When I got into the gallery it was still crowded and I didn't do more than walk quickly through the rooms, promising myself to come back as often as I could. For the next three days I divided my time between visits to the gallery (a special thanks to Gallery Guide Suzy--what a gem she was), exploring the Broadway district (where Joni got her start performing at the Louis Riel coffee-house), and hanging out with Listers. Many have great Joni-encounter stories, like Amy who played pool with Charles Valentino, the person Joni danced with in PWWAM and a member of Joni's entourage. I won't discuss the art just yet except to say that, by the time I left, I was in tears at the thought of not being able to visit the gallery every day. It wasn't just the paintings, though. The whole weekend couldn't have been more dreamlike or perfect (okay, a quiet dinner with Joni would have made it more perfect). The art, seeing Joni every time you turned around, the beauty of Saskatoon (Did I mention it was JazzFest and the streets were filled with music all day long?), all of these things made it a weekend I'll cherish always. But the deepest feelings of regret I had were those I felt when saying goodbye to my new friends. What lovely, honest, open, caring people you are. I feel blessed to have met you. All good things Rick p.s. If you've stuck with me this far then I have a reward for you. The first four people to email me their address will receive a copy of the exhibit announcement card, with a reproduction of Axilar Moonrise on the front. I'll base the winners on the time sent as it appears on my mail server. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #278 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?