From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #250 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, June 16 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 250 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: William Shatner Sings........ [peves@marlboro.edu] RE: Lower Levels of Hell/Nyro [peves@marlboro.edu] Fantasy Box Set ["James L. Leonard" ] for the record ["P. Henry" ] rhymes hissing [Howard Motyl ] Re: guitar orchestra from Taming the Tiger ? [Howard ] Re: HOSL: city, jungle, suburb [B Merrill ] "don't interrupt the sorrow" [B Merrill ] Re: Slant rhyme. [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Tape Tree#6 Tape 1 - mp3 ["Ken (slarty)" ] Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" ["Patricia O'Connor" ] Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Don't Interrupt the Sorrow [IVPAUL42@aol.com] a Joni moment at the doctor's [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: a Joni moment at the doctor's [FMYFL@aol.com] music business article ["Eric G. Postel" ] Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" ["James L. Leonard" ] Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Fantasy Box Set [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Happy birthday to. . . (SJC) [Kenny Grant ] passions ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Fantasy Box Set ["James L. Leonard" ] Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" ["James L. Leonard" Subject: Fantasy Box Set Would anyone like to play Fantasy Joni Mitchell Box Set? :-) If so, please assume a 4-CD box set, chronicling Joni's career from coffeehouse to BSN. Each CD can contain up to 74 minutes of music (296 minutes, total box time), but I'm not asking for people to get out a calculator or anything. Also please assume, except for early songs not recorded in the studio (which would be taken from The Second Fret Sets, or something similar), that everything included in the box would be taken from the official albums STAS through BSN. (If you haven't heard the early songs not on record, please ignore them and just compile a box beginning with STAS.) What would be the track listing for each of your four discs, including the sequencing? I certainly wouldn't expect any replies immediately. I know something like this would take a little time to think through. Are you interested, though? Btw, I'm not planning to actually make one of these (I don't even own a CD burner), but I'm wondering how you'd like to see Joni's career presented to a less knowledgeable public in the box set format. "Boston Jim" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:15:03 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: for the record Kakki wrote >>For the record, I don't mind at all when Joni skewers the music biz generally but when she names names, I also cringe. She and Metheny should be above that kind of thing.>> and CathrineT agreed: >I'm with Kakki, the vitriol is sometimes hard to take.> I caught Aimee on 'Later' and also noticed the similarity in her stories/attitude regarding the 'star maker machinery' to that of Joni's. while listening I saw what they both are on about from a somewhat different angle, that being the simple concept of putting the cart before the horse... ie: the great wrong it is that the business of distributing the art overtakes the art itself. (without which, there would BE no business!) I picture a small village and a woman who paints pictures... pretty soon the beauty in her soul, in combination with lots of art supplies, becomes stacks and piles of beauty filling her house and she thinks it would be so great to get these where other people could enjoy seeing them and she sets up a table in the square and arranges some for people to view them... some fall in love with this one or that so they ask to buy, etc... that's all... just a simple sharing of her art... and her heart... 'from me to you'... ...and for the record, Joni's cynical standpoint toward the recording/promoting/selling music 'biz' and it's prostitution of art is not, as some might suppose, the *result* of getting into it and bad experiences, though I'm sure that hasn't helped, but in fact predates her involvement in it! ie: as I have shared before, Joni was in high demand with several recording companies hounding her to sign for at least two years that I know of before she recorded STAS. she would get that wrinkle between her eyebrows she gets and warn me sternly about the 'Elvis' or standard contract which required the signee to 'mass produce' so many singles and albums per year and vow she would never put her art on an 'assembly line schedule'... and ya know... she never has! she wrote her own contract and that's when she recorded and not before. she coulda been living high on the hog instead of playing $50-$200/night gigs and barely able to afford guitar strings... but she held out and stuck to her convictions and, contrary to the opinion of some, has never compromised! she may have made mistakes along the way but they were honest mistakes cause that's how she is. honest! 'if you like it fine... if you don't, tough! this is my art!' ...but she has never backed down or catered to 'the business' in creating her art. so why does she name names? I think she sees these people, these 'pop performers', molded by the machine instead of the other way around, as traitors and whores who've sold out on principles she has stood and fought for her entire career... 'against the wind'... pat NP: The American - Martin Sexton (this guy is SO awesome!) Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:57:08 -0500 From: Howard Motyl Subject: rhymes hissing This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------BFCBDB5A97A8325AD206465C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcel: here is an internal rhyme from Joni: "Out of the wind in crinoline." Just heard this on the Hissing Demos. Amazing. Thanks, Catgirl, for turning me on to this. Muchisimas gracias. Howard M - --------------BFCBDB5A97A8325AD206465C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="howard_scptv.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Howard Motyl Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="howard_scptv.vcf" begin:vcard n:Motyl;Howard tel;fax:312-421-7714 tel;work:312-421-7711 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:SCPtv Worldwide adr:;;400 N. May St., Suite 201;Chicago;Illinois;60622;USA version:2.1 email;internet:howard_scptv@interaccess.com title:Director, Creative Development note:"Any time you have the opportunity to accomplish something for those coming behind you and you don't, you are wasting your time on this earth." Roberto Clemente x-mozilla-cpt:;3 fn:Howard Motyl end:vcard - --------------BFCBDB5A97A8325AD206465C-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:09:20 +0100 From: Howard Subject: Re: guitar orchestra from Taming the Tiger ? > James Phillips wrote: > > I'm going to come off really ignorant here but can someone define what a > "guitar orchestra" is that Joni is credited as playing on Harlem in Havana > and Lead Baloon on Taming the Tiger? I would appreciate any insight as to > this question. > I think Joni said she played "guitar orchestra" on a couple of the TTT tracks simply because she overdubbed many different VG8 guitar parts, each using different sounds, so the overall effect was like a mini-orchestra. The VG8 is a gadget that plugs into the guitar and allows you to get all sorts of sounds from the guitar - trumpets, piano, marimba, whatever ... this allowed Joni (for the first time) to layer up guitar parts *without having them all sound like a guitar* - i.e she is strumming the strings and fingering chords in the same way, but the sound she gets is different, and almost infinitely variable! Like the opening riff on Harlem in Havana. That's a weird sound - not like a guitar at all, but it *is* played on a guitar! So, the guitar orchestra is basically layers of many different VG8 guitar tracks, all using different sounds. Howard W. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:41:41 -0500 From: Richard Rice Subject: Slant rhyme. Hi Gang, Gangsters. Joni gangsters at that. Love the 'mini' thread on Joni's rhyme. Her ability to sound natural and conversational in song is one of the marvelous talents about her I absolutely admire. No one in this century matches her brilliance at constructing meaningful songs within the needs and constraints of the song form as she has. She does it with such brilliance, I was surprised when I read her say that putting words to the music was the hardest thing for her. And at times she would be blocked by concept, or constraints of the form, requiring her to leave the music for long stretches of time. Kind of like pulling teeth. ....Joni? Since music and its creation are a mistery to me, I always figured the melodies were the hard part and the words were easy as pie for her. Shows what I know. She could probably sit at a piano and piece together a melody in a day that would send us all blathering with bliss. Certainly, in her early days, her writing was far more prolific. Scratched out on napkins, note pads, line paper. Anywhere she encountered human drama, she seemed to be assimilating it in song form. Most of these early pieces are pretty forgettable in terms of having universal worth or standing as fine poetry. But man, I love the way the melodies took those freaky turns in the early days. Her cords would lead the melodies into weird modalities and made the lyric line seem so honest and fresh. Knocked David Crosy's socks off the first time he heard her. --How could they not? As her writing improved, as with most artists, the bigger the stakes the more scrutiny you put to the work you are doing. Having record contracts to fulfill certaintly must have begun to alter that process. Rather than the individual story pieces that made up her early coffee house days, the albums were more like art pieces. As the songs demanded more complexity of concept, the means demanded change as well. Hence her evolution towards jazz. We poke fun, gossip and analyze about Joni's brutal scrutiny of the music scene around her. I guarantee, it all pales a billion fold to the scrutiny she gives the blank page when she confronts putting words and meanings to a new melody. The use of slant rhyme and internal rhyme are invaluable pieces to the song writer. Without them you would be anchored to simple 'sing song' rhyme, and very limited in the concepts one could explore in a song. Most of the slags out there writing rely to heavily on simple rhyme, simple themes. Simpleton. Simpleton. Simpleton. --That's really the only bug I have with Britney, The Backstreet Boys, whatever. My mind consumes their melodic (?), conceptual ideas faster than a handful of butter popcorn and cotton candy. It's not their talent that bugs me at all. It's the lack of depth. As Joni put it, it's all "I'm da greatest looooooooover baby." Nice if you have three brain cells and the emotion depth of a goldfish. It is amazing to me how fluid her sentence structure is given the need to have rhyme as a major element in the song. Not one song, but every song has an incredible naturalness to it. It was a surprise and no surprise when I read that Lambert, Hendricks and Ross were the favorites of her youth. There you have it. You could not ask for a better model of conversational lyric writing. There stuff slips off the tongue like fine wine. I am convinced their style was a major formulative influence on how she would write. Or at least presented her with the idea of how one COULD write. How much rhyme is there in Joni's music? Surprisingly, less than I expected. I took a few minutes to glance at (the incorrect lyrics) of the Complete Poems and Lyrics. Unlike traditional poetic forms (Let's get our English majors in on this!) she may start a song in one rhyming pattern and have it completely change as the song goes along. For example, the song may run with a rhyme word, line, rhyme word, line. Then she will go for a long series of lines having no rhyme, then rescue the dissonance with a rhyme pattern built of a slant or internal rhyme. Certainly Court and Spark, Hejira and Mingus stand as her major, major breakouts in writing. Slot, hot, jackpots, me, lucky, tantalized, paradise. (Ok, english braniacs. What's the word for those last two?) Des Moines, coin, plant, lamp, blew it, to it. ( in next verse: dry cleaner do it.) Three, three, three, fruit, suit, lucky, money. Room, balloons, Circus Circus, purpose, Pooh Bears, blue there, Bells, tell, dime, line, Des Moines, coin,John, for one. There are all sorts of neat tricks she pulls out of the bag here. You guys are making me sick, I am enjoying this list so much I want a big 600 group hug. John. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:00:12 -0400 From: B Merrill Subject: Re: HOSL: city, jungle, suburb Bruce >> The underlying jungle drums signal a musical and lyrical >> disruption of the happier days of "In France." Now you suddenly realize >> that this isn't Court and Spark, Pt. II. "I don't think we're in Alberta >> anymore, Toto!" Philip: >I don't get that. The way I see it he says....... >The dark skinned people in the foreground with their lovely world beats >represent all that's good and pure in the world. They haven't been >corrupted by commerce and religion. This may be true.... But I don't believe Joni ever sings about these people in the foreground. Does she? The "jungle" that she sings about is second hand (Rousseau's painted jungle) or the metaphorical and negative jungle of the urban "cannibals." As far as Joni is concerned the >savages are the people running the corporations in the tall buildings (The >Exxons of this world, the people who mess with the garden planet) and >the half baked Christian moralists snug in their bible belt dreams. Those >cannibals of shuck and jive, if you will. She gives thanks to National >Geographic not The Wall St Journal. Yes, I agree.... But the point where I believe she comes closest to singing about the real jungle (as opposed to depicting it graphically) is the line: "charging elephants and chanting slaving boats," which (metaphoric or literal) is a scene of violence and predation, not a scene out of the National Geographic of noble and happy primitives, innocent in the greenery. Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:34:08 -0400 From: B Merrill Subject: "don't interrupt the sorrow" At 06:20 PM 06/09/2000 EDT, RickieLee1@aol.com asked: >next to "don't interrupt the sorrow" is there any more inaccessible song in >joni mitchell's canon than this one? [Passion play] I don't believe I know Passion Play. But is "don't interrupt the sorrow" generally considered to be the most inaccessible of all? Well, here's how I would access it: Firstly, it's set between Edith and the Kingpin & Shades of Scarlett Conquering, as part of a trio of songs about early adulthood: the power-plays of sex & romance, domination & subservience engaged in by single men and women. Courtship as a hissing battleground, rather than a happy sparking. The line "Don't interrupt the sorry" is the woman's retort to the man who has just said something like, "Hey, enough of your annoying self-pity, woman!"-- which is how he interprets her complaint against him. He's trying to get her to cut off her sorrow with that kind of crack. The song then continues with the back and forth of a man and woman arguing, and so the song might be hard to access since Joni voices both the man's and the woman's lines. (Mostly the woman's.) The back and forth is clarified when Joni sings "He says....etc." which comes in reply to the woman announcing "Anima rising... etc." And the man also says "Anima rising..." but dismissively, "so what!" More specifically, feminism, the rising anima, rejects the Christian degradation of women (the guilt of Eden). Only those asleep in the Bible belt fail to see the new truth in the liberation of womankind. Meanwhile, the man still tries to dominate her, telling her to "be polite," and bring him his bottle," etc. Thus the battle of the sexes... I have to confess that I don't get (access) the metaphor of "Petrified wood process Tall timber down to rock." Well, perhaps it has to do with the notion that that which rises (female anima, or a tree) also falls over and petrifies? Thinking about this song is making me thirsty... Hey woman, bring me a beer! Bruce PS Whoa! She just cracked it over my head! ------------------------------ Date: Thu Jun 15 16:47:47 2000 From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Slant rhyme. <> Or like she says about her song "Mr. Blue", the way you disguise a bad lyric is by setting it to a rock and roll beat... I too am enjoying this thread...Joni's rhyme schemes are so various from song to song...if I have time I'm gonna look over her lyrics and see if I can come up with what are my favorite "internal" and "slant" rhymes. What makes her so unique is that even while she's doing all that clever wordsmithing, she has the power to move you in a very meaningful way. Roberto mentioned Sondheim, who is also extremely gifted & clever but sometimes let his gimmickry get in the way of writing a meaningful melody or an emotional song. Certainly don't mean that as a negative against him as he IS a brilliant writer, just not as consistently brilliant as Joni! Bob NP: Jonatha Brooke, "the choice" (Why does everybody put their song titles in lower case? Does upper case cost more to print or something? :~D) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:47:25 -0400 From: "Ken (slarty)" Subject: Tape Tree#6 Tape 1 - mp3 Here is a link for Tape Tree #6 Tape 1 in mp3 format. The songs will download to your mp3 player and play. This is from the tape with the Autry Museum Show on it. http://www.myplay.com/mp/playlist/now_playing.jsp?u=607455&plid=181834&start=1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:10:08 -0400 From: "Patricia O'Connor" Subject: Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" - ----- Original Message ----- From: B Merrill > I have to confess that I don't get (access) the metaphor of "Petrified wood > process Tall timber down to rock." Well, perhaps it has to do with the > notion that that which rises (female anima, or a tree) also falls over and > petrifies? I think it's just a metaphor for a very long & slow process, the process of changing a patriarchal society. > Thinking about this song is making me thirsty... > Hey woman, bring me a beer! > PS Whoa! She just cracked it over my head! A much quicker process; Tall cold one down on brain box. Patricia O'Connor p.a.oconnor@att.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:14:26 EDT From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" hi bruce...wow. i have never even heard anyone TRY to crack open THAT song, and i think you did a remarkable job. i gotta go listen to it now (along with passion play, thanks to penny!) and see how your ideas hold up. but they sound good. now...who out there can explain e=mc2? (whaddya bet...) ric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:26:49 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: Don't Interrupt the Sorrow Another excellent intepretation by Bruce who asks: >I have to confess that I don't get (access) the metaphor of "Petrified >wood process Tall timber down to rock." I also don't get this but get the impressions of a great deal of pressure being applied over time as occurs during fossilisation. Any other ideas? Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Somewhere where cities *don't* grow out of the forrest ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:39:29 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" In a message dated 6/15/00 4:14:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, merrillb@crisny.org writes: << The line "Don't interrupt the sorry" is the woman's retort to the man who has just said something like, "Hey, enough of your annoying self-pity, woman!"-- which is how he interprets her complaint against him. He's trying to get her to cut off her sorrow with that kind of crack. >> I'm pretty sure the timing is right on this. I heard a long time ago, though not from an especially relaible source, that Joni and Jackson Browne made a sort of bet or pact to each write a song about sorrow after Jackson's wife comitted suicide. Joni wrote "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" while Jackson wrote "Fountain of Sorrow," one of many great songs that appears on his Late for the Sky album. Now the person who told me this in 1976 orr 1977 may have actually heard it from someone in the know, or he may have been speaking on supposition. Still, I wonder if anyone else has ever heard anything like this. It reminds me a little of the bet George Harrison and Eric Clapton made that resulted in the formation of Blind Faith. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:49:49 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Don't Interrupt the Sorrow In a message dated 6/15/00 6:47:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alorimer@tassie.net.au writes: << >I have to confess that I don't get (access) the metaphor of "Petrified >wood process Tall timber down to rock." I also don't get this but get the impressions of a great deal of pressure being applied over time as occurs during fossilisation. Any other ideas? >> Except that petrification is entirely different from fossilization because the trees/logs/wood undergoing petrification are NOT under pressure. I agree with the one who said the line referred to the speed of social change approaching that of petrification. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:34:33 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: a Joni moment at the doctor's Hi everyone. I had my 4th chemo today. My numbers are still going down, which is terrific. My doctor said that if anyone has a chance of walking away without a recurrence, it's me. The social worker came by to offer support and encouragement. I told them about all of you. They said the same thing I know - you're all pulling me through this. Jane, the social worker said she LOVES BSN and has been listening to it non-stop. I told her about the concert version of Judgement of the Moon and Stars, then I quoted the last verse. My doctor, who doesn't know the song, was really touched. Maybe she'll borrow BSN from Jane? I really love all of you and I wish I could give each of you a hug! lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:08:45 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: a Joni moment at the doctor's << I really love all of you and I wish I could give each of you a hug! >> You can Anne! Just keep fighting like you've been doing, and we'll keep sending you the good vibes. After this beast is totally gone, we're all gonna make you stay with us for the night (you'll have to pack enough for 2 years :~) and you can give us ALL a big hug! Joni, Joni, Joni.........(there's my Joni content) Love, Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:00:43 -0500 From: "Eric G. Postel" Subject: music business article given all joni's comments, some might find this of interest: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/print.html Its an article on the music industry, napster, mp3s written by Courtney Love of Hole eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:18:10 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" Hi, Paul. It's my understanding that Browne's wife, Phyllis, was still alive at the time "Fountain Of Sorrow" was recorded, and Late For The Sky was released. The Pretender, issued next, was the album that made reference to her suicide, I believe, while Late For The Sky probably spoke of her depression to some extent. "Boston Jim" > I heard a long time ago, though not from an especially relaible source, that > Joni and Jackson Browne made a sort of bet or pact to each write a song > about sorrow after Jackson's wife comitted suicide. Joni wrote "Don't > Interrupt the Sorrow" while Jackson wrote "Fountain of Sorrow," one of > many great songs that appears on his Late for the Sky album. > > Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:51:39 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: a Joni moment at the doctor's Way to go, Anne! It sure looks like a downhill battle now. :-) A big hug to you, too. "Boston Jim" > > I had my 4th chemo today. My numbers are still going down, which is > terrific. My doctor said that if anyone has a chance of walking away without > a recurrence, it's me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:01:58 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: a Joni moment at the doctor's And a huge :-) right back to you Anne! Congratulations on those declining numbers! Did you show them your Joni 'stuff' from the BSN concert tour? :-) Heather At 07:34 PM 6/15/00 -0400, Anne Sandstrom wrote: >Hi everyone. > >I had my 4th chemo today. My numbers are still going down, which is >terrific. My doctor said that if anyone has a chance of walking away without >a recurrence, it's me. > >The social worker came by to offer support and encouragement. I told them >about all of you. They said the same thing I know - you're all pulling me >through this. > >Jane, the social worker said she LOVES BSN and has been listening to it >non-stop. I told her about the concert version of Judgement of the Moon and >Stars, then I quoted the last verse. My doctor, who doesn't know the song, >was really touched. Maybe she'll borrow BSN from Jane? > >I really love all of you and I wish I could give each of you a hug! > >lots of love >Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:49:25 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" In a message dated 6/15/00 8:16:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jll@tampabay.rr.com writes: << Hi, Paul. It's my understanding that Browne's wife, Phyllis, was still alive at the time "Fountain Of Sorrow" was recorded, and Late For The Sky was released. The Pretender, issued next, was the album that made reference to her suicide, I believe, while Late For The Sky probably spoke of her depression to some extent. "Boston Jim" >> How can that be if "For a Dancer" is also about her? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:50:19 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Fantasy Box Set In a message dated 06/15/2000 11:40:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jll@tampabay.rr.com writes: << Would anyone like to play Fantasy Joni Mitchell Box Set? :-) >> OK Boston Jim, I'll play. This just happens to be tonight's fantasy boxset. It could very easily change tomorrow, and these are in chronological order CD 1 Night In The City Cactus Tree Chelsea Morning I Don't Know Where I Stand For Free Conversation The Arrangement Big Yellow Taxi Woodstock Little Green California A Case Of You CD 2 Cold Blue Steel And Sweet Fire Barangrill Electricity People's Parties Down To You Just Like This Train Edith And The Kingpin Shades Of Scarlet Conquering Harry's House/Centerpiece Hejira Song For Sharon Refuge Of The Roads CD 3 Otis And Marlena Don Juan's Reckless Daughter Off Night Backstreet The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey Chinese Cafe Moon At The Window The Three Great Stimulants Impossible Dreamer My Secret Place The Tea Leaf Prophecy (Lay Down Your Arms) Night Ride Home Ray's Dad's Cadillac Two Grey Rooms CD 4 Turbulent Indigo The Magdelene Laundries The Sire Of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song) Sunny Sunday Harlem In Havana Love Puts On A New Face The Crazy Cries Of Love At Last A Case Of You Stormy Weather Both Sides, Now ok Boston Jim, now get a burner and give me my prize :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:03:44 +0000 From: Kenny Grant Subject: Re: Happy birthday to. . . (SJC) Hey Patrick, I'm really touched that you saved my 2-year-old birthday message to you!! I had so much fun composing it, setting up the scenario, and while a fantasy, the truth is that I didn't think it was entirely out of the realm of possibility. Thanks for the warm birthday wishes, and I hope that you have a spectacular birthday tomorrow as well!! I'm sure I'll see you soon, despite the fact that Joni's tour is over! Best, -Kenny patrick leader wrote: > what a wonderful message in my mail tonight... mary, isn't it time you came > to another joni-fest? it would be so nice to see you at ashara's this year. > and i'm sure i'm speaking for many of us, here. > > there's another birthday here tomorrow, my friend kenny grant. happy > birthday to you, sir. much more joni. > > patrick, hoping that everyone has a spectacular day > > patrick - de la soul - the magic number > > ----------- > > Gonna sing a quick litte song, lemme set it up for you. > > Picture it, Sicily, 1914...no, on second thought, New York City, 1998, it's > 3:40am, you're heading home after hanging with some friends who took you out > for your birthday, you pass the Blue Note, and see that Joe Sample is > performing so you stop in, they don't ask you for a cover as its so late and > the show is almost over, you sit down at a small table and order a beer, its > dark, and only about 50% full. > > About two minutes later, Joe finishes the song he was playing as you walked > in, and says "Ladies and Gentleman, an old friend is in the audience, and > she'd like to come on stage and jam with me, please give a warm welcome to > Miss Joni Mitchell." > > She gets on stage, wearing a long black dress, the crowd gives her an > exuberant welcome, they hand her a baby blue Martin, and she begins > strumming...."Heatwaves on the runway, as the wheels set down, he takes his > baggage off the carousel, takes a taxi into town." > > Joe joins in on Centerpiece, and Joni whips out a husky voice, and breaks > into some of her best jazz singing ever: "The more I'm with you pretty baby, > the more I feel my love increase..." > > "Shining hair and shining skin, shining as she reeled 'em in, to tell him > like she did today, just what he could do with Harry's House, and Harry's > take-home-pay." > > The crowd roars. Cassandra Wilson is in the audience, a little embibed, and > gives a loud standing ovation. > > Joni looks around the room and spots you, and says "you're Patrick from the > JMDL, right? I recognize your picture from one of Wally's party pages. > Isn't today your birthday? > > Smiling from ear to ear, she waves you onstage, you're a little shy, but > she's warm and encouraging, as you approach the stage she turns to Joe. "Do > you know happy birthday?" Joe begins to play it in some weird minor chord, > Joni accompanies him on guitar, playing a note here and there, as she sings > in a deep, rich voice: > > "Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear > Patrick, > happy birthday to you." > > Cassandra Wilson has made her way to the stage, grabbed a free mike, and > adds: > > "And many more" > > She spreads those 4 syllables out for a good 15 seconds. The drummer > brushes the cymbals. Joe's fingers are dancing on the piano. > > Joni takes off the guitar and gives you a warm embrace and a wet kiss on the > cheek. > > The lights are brightened a bit, they announce last call, and Joe and his > band go into their final selection. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > >Pitassi, Mary > >Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 6:42 PM > >To: 'joni@smoe.org' > >Cc: 'patrickl@bway.net' > >Subject: Happy birthday to. . . (NJC) > > > > > >A warm "happy birthday," one day in advance, to Patrick Leader!! Have a > >great one, my friend. > > > >Take care, > > > >Mary P., > >who'll be joining you in your new age, whatever it may be, in two short > >months. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:10:55 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: passions Sherelle Smith wrote, "Like a jealous lover, our passions can make us say and do things which we later regret. That is why as musicians we must keep them always under control-letting them be free for their intended purpose only....to create a work of art." Well said! Kate Bennett Singer/Songwriter www.katebennett.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:17:15 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: Fantasy Box Set Great job, Jimmy! Reprise just might give you the gig. Thanks a bunch for "playing." :-) "Boston Jim" - ----- Original Message ----- From: > << Would anyone like to play Fantasy Joni Mitchell Box Set? :-) > >> > OK Boston Jim, I'll play. This just happens to be tonight's fantasy boxset. > It could very easily change tomorrow, and these are in chronological order ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:36:23 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: "don't interrupt the sorrow" I'm almost positive I'm right about the chronology, Paul, but I can't honestly say for sure. Maybe an even more serious Browne fan can fill us in. "Boston Jim" > In a message dated 6/15/00 8:16:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jll@tampabay.rr.com writes: > > << Hi, Paul. > > It's my understanding that Browne's wife, Phyllis, was still alive at the > time "Fountain Of Sorrow" was recorded, and Late For The Sky was released. > The Pretender, issued next, was the album that made reference to her > suicide, I believe, while Late For The Sky probably spoke of her depression > to some extent. > > "Boston Jim" >> > > How can that be if "For a Dancer" is also about her? > > Paul I ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #250 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?