From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #235 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, June 7 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 235 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Thoughts from the Protea Man ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Thoughts from the Protea Man [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: joni tidbits [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Thoughts from the Protea Man [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Thoughts from the Protea Man [pat holden ] RE: Attention, Saskatoon-goers! ["Peg Eves" ] Re: No One Prepared Me [FredNow@aol.com] Re: UFG [Catherine McKay ] RE: Creative Writing Project (SJC) ["Peg Eves" ] CHRISTMAS IS SPARKLING ON ANNE'S COUCH!!! [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Attention Saskatoon Goers [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: Friday night at the E-Centre [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] Re: CHRISTMAS IS SPARKLING ON ANNE'S COUCH!!! [pat holden ] Re: Corrections to Lyrics Book [davidpaulmarine@webtv.net (David Marine)] She is Queen (undisputed) of Amazon.com [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: PazFest pictures [Catherine McKay ] Note From The Mendel [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] B(r)ass on Cotton Avenue, mermaid cafe [Howard ] The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary ["James L. Leonard" ] Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary [FMYFL@aol.com] JMDLers' CDs [Scott Price ] Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Camden Show Report [Leenycas@aol.com] Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary ["James L. Leonard" ] Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary ["James L. Leonard" ] Yahoo! Auto Response [skimmerling@yahoo.com] Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary [Guitarpoint@aol.com] Re: JMDL Site [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Yahoo! Auto Response [Brian Gross ] Re: JMDL Site ["Kakki" ] Circle Game [leslie@torchsongs.com] Re: Marcels take: Pazfest: Night of Nights part 3 [CaTGirl627@aol.com] The Wherehouse Promo Video ["Scott Tennell" ] The Top Ten Bad Group Names Inspired by Joni Mitchell Songs [Murphycopy@a] S'toon, Mendel, etc. (Gonna be daring and call this JC) [evian ] Re: JMDL Site [MGVal@aol.com] Re: The Top Ten Bad Group Names Inspired by Joni Mitchell Songs [MGVal@ao] Re: JMDLers' CDs ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:05:18 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Thoughts from the Protea Man Gary wrote: >It is a pleasure for me to be a part of the JMDL And it's a pleasure to have you- welcome to the People's Party! >She asked me >what kind of flower it was, as she had never seen it before. I, in >utter ecstasy, stammered my response that it was a flower from >Australia, to which she replied, "my, if must have had a long root!" And if you're interested, the South African cricket team are also known as the Proteas, so they must be pretty common there, too. Your protea story is much better, though! Hell _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz Visit the NBLs (Natural Born Losers) at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hell/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 05:58:11 EDT From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Thoughts from the Protea Man In a message dated 6/6/00 12:40:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, garyzack@ameritech.net writes: << Hey, it's my birthday today, and like Joni said, "I feel like I'm just being born....." Thanks to you all! Hugs, Gary (the protea man) >> hey gary, great post and i'm glad you came on list with us. i met you at the show and heard your protea story with cassy and thom. just yeseterday i looked at the picture on ttt. what a great story. good luck with the jmdlers. its a good bunch. patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 08:10:00 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: joni tidbits <> Yes, there is, and it's safely tucked away on Volume 2 of "Covers & Contributions"...and it's good, but not as good as that rockin' Supremes' version! Bob NP: CPR/Crosby, "Yvette in English" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 08:15:23 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Thoughts from the Protea Man <> Wow, Gary...Welcome, Happy Birthday, and thanks for sharing your wonderful story about Joni & the Protea! I look forward to your being a part of the community! And I'd love to see that list of rarities as well - maybe we could trade some stuff! Bob NP: Thomas Dolby, "Jungleline" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 08:58:52 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: Thoughts from the Protea Man dear protea man happy birthday and welcome to the list. Im sure you will find a home within the warm embrace of this wonderful family. Fantastic story, thanks for sharing! welcome and enjoy your stay! mags > > - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:11:22 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: Attention, Saskatoon-goers! Mary, I'm pretty sure I'm making the pilgrimage to Saskatoon but haven't got airline res yet. Probably tomorrow. I'm waiting to find out how I get from Toronto to Saskatoon and how long it will take. Peg > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > JRMCo1@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 3:56 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Attention, Saskatoon-goers! > > > I wish I were going to 'Toon town, alas... This press release is > running the media gauntlet today... > > Joni Mitchell Goes Home to Canada to Unveil Artwork > > Reuters > May 25 2000 3:03PM ET > > > WINNIPEG (Reuters) - World-renowned singer and songwriter Joni > Mitchell will return to her Canadian home province of > Saskatchewan at the end of June to unveil the first-ever > exhibition of her paintings. > > ``Still best known for her music and words, Joni Mitchell's > primary preoccupation remains her visual art,'' a statement from > the Mendel Art Gallery in the Prairie city of Saskatoon said on Thursday. > > The exhibition of more than 85 works, titled ``voices,'' will > open on June 30 and will run until September 17. > > It will also feature the poems and lyrics of Mitchell, currently > a resident of the United States, who will attend the opening. > > The career of Mitchell, born in 1943 in the small town of Fort > Macleod, Saskatchewan, began in art school before she climbed to > fame as a musician with songs like The Circle Game, Both Sides > Now and Big Yellow Taxi. > > The artwork of Mitchell, who also captured headlines a few years > ago after being reunited with a daughter she gave up for adoption > when she was a young woman, graces her newest CD release, Both Sides Now. > > Admission to the show, curated by Canadian Gilles Hebert, will be free. > > RTR/ENTERTAINMENT-EXHIBIT-JONIMIT > > > << Who is going to the opening of Joni's exhibit at the Mendel Gallery in > Saskatoon on June 30, 2000? And has a "sub-list" been established yet for > this group? > > E-mail me privately and/or on-list. "Inquiring minds want to know"! > > Mary P. > >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:42:21 EDT From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: No One Prepared Me Howard Motyl writes: >Um, Vince, >ah, I was at the Chicago concert and I didn't see any spotlights going >through the crowd. At one point, a spotlight facing the crowd, on the >right side of the stage, in the second section back, went on but it was >lighting a microphone in the audience. (I thought someone was going to >sing with her, and then I thought she was going to go into the crowd to >sing!) But I don't remember if it was in FTR. The light went on and >sat still before going out. It looked like it was a mistake. It didn't >move around the crowd and then settle back on the stage. At least not >in the arena I was sitting in. I was sitting near the top of the theater in Chicago, dead center. There indeed was a spotlight at the end of FTR, and it wandered over the audience and then settled back on stage where Joni had been, fading out with the last note of the orchestra ... an empty spotlight. No mistake. What a great, great concert, by the way. Couldn't imagine it having been better. The new/old tunes have me salivating for the next record. Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:38:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: UFG Bob wrote, of UFG: > I've ALWAYS heard 'Bully' as opposed to > 'boy'...who sings 'boy'? - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > It's printed on my copy of Hits that Joni says > boy.... I've always heard > bully too! Jamie, Jamie, Jamie, never believe what you *read* ;) It's pitiful how many lyrics are screwed up on those lyric sheets that come with CDs, although, for the life of me, I can't understand how they manage to do it - does someone sit down and transcribe it from the recording? Isn't it *already* written down somewhere? Didn't Joni write it down for herself so she wouldn't forget the words? It's "bully" winds - like the schoolyard bully who pushes the smaller kids' faces into the snow (we in the frozen nort' are all too familiar with this winter ritual!), the "bully winds" do the same to the autumn leaves. It's kind of a neat analogy. (This does make me wonder though - how would you differentiate a boy wind from a girl wind, I wonder? By its boom-boom pachyderm?) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:11:01 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: Creative Writing Project (SJC) Alan, I missed your post in early May describing your * concept* regarding creative writing/ Joni. Do you mind a recap for me? Peg > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:42:58 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: CHRISTMAS IS SPARKLING ON ANNE'S COUCH!!! Hi everyone. I'M OVERWHELMED!! I don't even know where to begin. MY GOD!!! It's like you all said "Oh, we'll just take one of everything" in response to "What would you like to buy?" Joni lithographs - including one signed!, Joni posters, a Joni mug, Joni t-shirts, Joni photographs, Joni programs, and a Joni hat :-) And CDs and notes from list members from EVERYWHERE! As you've guessed by now, Ashara (Joni-Santa) came by today. She made me wait in the kitchen while she absolutely covered the couch with everything Joni. I couldn't imagine what she was doing. Then she led me, eyes closed, into the living room. She made me wait while she grabbed the camera. Then I opened my eyes! WOW!!! It took quite a while to pore through everything. I kept looking - there was more and more stuff! So, I made her retell about going to the Connecticut and Boston shows, about who was there, about getting Larry Klein's autograph (including one for me!). I'm still laughing imagining Ashara going up to all of you unsuspecting JMDLers promising checks in return for cash so she could get all this stuff. (I assume you all know the story - if not, it's hysterical! Ashara only had about $60 cash on her, assuming (wouldn't you?) that they'd take a credit card. They wouldn't.(imagine that) So she had to borrow money from everyone - having left all that cash at home, of course. She was just about at the point of asking complete strangers!) Too funny. I just cannot thank all of you enough. I'm so touched and SO SURPRISED! The love and generosity of everyone on this list is just incredible. As I said, I'm overwhelmed. And I can't wait to listen to all this terrific music you've sent me. This certainly is a talented bunch! I remember starting a thread about JMDLers who write songs. Well, now I'll get to actually hear so much wonderful music by fellow JMDLers! So, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! (I'd write it 750 times, but I think Les would kill me :-) You're THE BEST!!! lots and lots of love, Anne NW: (now wearing) my Joni hat d:-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:21:09 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: Deep Dreaming Hey - I like that, Anne. Alot. Peg > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of > Bern44105@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 3:36 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Deep Dreaming > > > Ann, I think this is one of your best yet. There is some very powerful, > albeit sinister imagery; rather reminds me of Sylvia Plath in > places. Glad > you broke your cardinal rule and shared it with us before you had > a chance to > edit it down. I think it's brilliant. > Bern > > > DEEP DREAMING > > I'm marooned here in this room > Festooned in flowers and floating balloons > The party girl is tired > Propped up with chewing gum and chicken wire > With a promise of flight > On fledgling wings > On thinnest night > > Deep dreaming to erase the old > Crush the bones > And chill the coals > Make me dust > Then make me whole > > Mail slips in on the flimsy wind > And the fickle weather of others' whims > The world still spins sustained > By the merciless and mundane > Out of sight and out of mind > I chant and pray and pantimime > The likeness of a life > > Deep dreaming to erase the old > Crush the bones > And chill the coals > Make me dust > Then make me whole > > Hell is such a holy place > Where they rip your flesh and erase your face > The sinner's soul is cleaned > With the acid rinse of kerosene > Just a promise of flight > On wings too singed > To scale the night > > Deep dreaming to erase the old > Crush the bones > And chill the coals > Make me dust > Then make me whole > > Copyright (c) 2000, Anne Sandstrom > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: Attention Saskatoon Goers <> Great Peg! On a related note, I called the Mendel's gallery gift shop last week for some info. They really couldn't give me the details I was seeking yet, specifics on prices and which prints might be available, but I did come away with a little to share with all interested. First off, they do take orders and will ship anywhere....YAY! The exhibit catalog, he was pretty sure, is going to be $35 Canadian (about $23.50 US) which sounds like a great price, imho! He said for sure there will be a poster available but couldn't specify which or guess that price. In talking with him, it didn't sound encouraging we'll get many of the particulars until just a day or two before the exhibit opening, so maybe the best bet is going to be for those going to relay the info on "what" and "how much" in our first hand accounts. But he did give me a name and e-mail addy for someone he suggested I contact to get the most up to date info on merchandise. When I receive that reply, I'll pass it on here. Cheers, Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us versus them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:45:48 -0400 (EDT) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Re: Friday night at the E-Centre I received a letter asking of my where-abouts Friday night and decided to make the response my long overdue review out of sheer laziness. The show was magnif! I arrived in Philly a bit early for the show but too late for the dinner. So I parked at Penns Landing and crossed Walnut by Bookbinders. I had a draught of Jefferson's recipe in the City Tavern and a quick Bruschetta at a bistro across the street. I then took the 7:30 ferry over to the show. It was lovely and exceeded all my expectations. I did keep one eye out for you people but to no avail. I thought I saw someone whose mug I recognized from the gallery but I was not sure. I met a pair of really fine ladies that kept my attention during the break. On the ferry ride after the show I ran into some local Scranton acquaintances that were staying downtown. We shared a spliff on the waterfront and I headed home. I still to this day have not bought BSN. I wanted to wait until after I saw the show so as not to spoil it. I went in having never heard any of it except Stormy Weather on Temple radio and At Last on Letterman. I never saw Rosie and I turned off my Tribute vhs right where Joni comes on, and never finished it. I doubt that the album will really do justice to what I saw and heard, esp. since I'm such a lover of live music so consider this a grovel for the live recording of Camden. I promise to celebrate all future MLK Jr birthdays as if they were my own. In fact, they are, we share 1/15! :) BTW, when she told the Beethoven story, I almost screamed out Maizel (sp?) as the name of the inventor of the metronome. And, no, I did not look that up when I got home. I actually knew it from 6th grade chorus: "Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tick-a tock, tick-a tock, tick-a tock we sing to you Mr. Maizel Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tick-a tock (rest rest rest) Here's to your wondrous machine counting time tick-a tick tock tick tock tick tick tock tick-a tock, Oh mighty metronome" You can't make that shit up and you DON'T need a PHd. Anyway, I decided NOT to yell it because she probably knew damn well it was Maizel but was just being cute and "dumbing it down" for those barbarians in the audience lacking a proper education. "MetronoMEE", indeed. My favorite covers were "Answer Me" & Trouble Man. My favorite Joni tunes were ACOY, JOTMAS, FTR & Be Cool which just swung with all those horns. My only least fav of the night was BSN which just lay there like so much schmaltz, and all the life sucked out of it. I thought the orchestra was wonderful and the sax player wins MVP for literally saving and turning many of the songs from potential disasters into beautifully, understated, well received pieces. Not the best concert I've ever seen, or even so far this year, but a winner nonetheless. And I finally got to see Joni after a 17 year wait. Now if she'd just get back to her guitar playing (1/3 of what I love about her) I'd be most pleased. BTW, I was wondering. What if she did an album and tour of covers and her own material in which she NEVER sings...only plays? Perhaps employing other singers or none at all. I wonder how that would be? I think I'd like that too. Oh yeah, the outfits. For God's sake, lose those Mary Travers capes, please. I realize they are a stage prop but they are sooooo unbecoming and make you look...well...see my BSN parody, if Les ever adds it to the JMDL site. Now, where's my Pulitzer? gdave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 15:04:58 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS IS SPARKLING ON ANNE'S COUCH!!! I burst into tears while reading your post!!! Anne, Im thrilled by your reaction, your happiness and especially for the opportunity to join in the spirit of our Joni community in this way. As I said before, it is you who have given us this incredible gift. In a heart beat we jumped to Ashara's call, gathered round our collective fire to send forth energy, light and well wishes ... not to mention all the Joni goodies!!! It is everything you deserve. Remember Anne, you are never alone. Sending a big warm thank you to our angel Ashara . love Mags. Anne Sandstrom wrote: > Hi everyone. > > I'M OVERWHELMED!! I don't even know where to begin. MY GOD!!! It's like you > all said "Oh, we'll just take one of everything" in response to "What would > you like to buy?" > > Joni lithographs - including one signed!, Joni posters, a Joni mug, Joni > t-shirts, Joni photographs, Joni programs, and a Joni hat :-) And CDs and > notes from list members from EVERYWHERE! > > As you've guessed by now, Ashara (Joni-Santa) came by today. She made me > wait in the kitchen while she absolutely covered the couch with everything > Joni. I couldn't imagine what she was doing. Then she led me, eyes closed, > into the living room. She made me wait while she grabbed the camera. Then I > opened my eyes! WOW!!! > > It took quite a while to pore through everything. I kept looking - there was > more and more stuff! So, I made her retell about going to the Connecticut > and Boston shows, about who was there, about getting Larry Klein's autograph > (including one for me!). I'm still laughing imagining Ashara going up to all > of you unsuspecting JMDLers promising checks in return for cash so she could > get all this stuff. (I assume you all know the story - if not, it's > hysterical! Ashara only had about $60 cash on her, assuming (wouldn't you?) > that they'd take a credit card. They wouldn't.(imagine that) So she had to > borrow money from everyone - having left all that cash at home, of course. > She was just about at the point of asking complete strangers!) Too funny. > > I just cannot thank all of you enough. I'm so touched and SO SURPRISED! The > love and generosity of everyone on this list is just incredible. As I said, > I'm overwhelmed. > > And I can't wait to listen to all this terrific music you've sent me. This > certainly is a talented bunch! I remember starting a thread about JMDLers > who write songs. Well, now I'll get to actually hear so much wonderful music > by fellow JMDLers! > > So, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! (I'd write it 750 times, but I think > Les would kill me :-) > > You're THE BEST!!! > > lots and lots of love, > Anne > > NW: (now wearing) my Joni hat d:-) - -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 12:37:37 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Joni at Woodstock? At 11:08 PM 6/3/00 -0500, Michael Paz wrote: >I just can't wait to find out if the guy who tols the Joni/Woodstock story >is full of shit or not (even tho Kate sez Crosby denies it ever happened, >could be old Croz lost those particular brain cells) Michael, The latest on this thread is that about a week ago I sent (as promised) a copy of Joni's "A Day In The Garden" performance to the guy who told the story about Joni being at Woodstock and performing a few days before the festival proper. Along with the CD was a handwritten note telling him that his story found its way to the internet and that none other than David Crosby replied "not true...she was never there and I was only there for the weekend." I asked if perhaps he had confused Joni with Joan Baez...trying to give him an out, if need be. I haven't heard back, yet, but if he adds anything further to the story I'll be sure to post it here. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:52:18 -0700 (PDT) From: davidpaulmarine@webtv.net (David Marine) Subject: Re: Corrections to Lyrics Book Hey Paul & list -- A painstaking proofreading of the entire book was done about a year and a half ago. The effort was chiefly Howard's, with help from some other JMDLers (myself included). The project took months, with many of the more ambiguous words discussed at length here on the list. The corrections were sent to Wally, but he wasn't able to get them to the publisher's in time for the second edition's deadline (he missed it by a day, and was very upset). I don't know whether or not Jim has this file, but if so perhaps the corrected and definitive lyrics could be posted on both sites. I hope that ultimately another edition will be printed and that the corrections will be incorporated, but unfortunately there seem to be plenty of books still stockpiled, and it may be a while before new original lyrics need to be included (as did the TTT lyrics for the soft cover edition). David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:16:16 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: She is Queen (undisputed) of Amazon.com 06/09/2000 Entertainment Weekly Time Inc. Page [Bonus]5 [Not Available In All Editions] (Copyright 2000) Maybe it's memories of summer lovin', but we sense nostalgia among online music fans: '70s balladeers Joni Mitchell and Neil Young bolstered sales at Amazon.com... AMAZON.COM TOP CD SALES ARTIST ALBUM 1) Santana - Supernatural 2) 'N Sync - No Strings Attached 3) Neil Young - Silver & Gold 4) Joni Mitchell - Both Sides Now 5) Sting - Brand New Day 6) Macy Gray - On How Life Is 7) Moby - Play 8) Steely Dan - Two Against Nature 9) No Doubt - Return of Saturn 10) Aimee Mann Bachelor No. 2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:29:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: PazFest pictures - --- Les Irvin wrote: > Joniphiles - > For those of you who are not yet green enough with > envy for missing PazFest > 2000, it's time to add insult to injury and check > out the photos that are > beginning to roll in: > http://216.247.66.89/jonifest/jfno2000.cfm > Oh, sure. Rub it in, eh? ;) (I am SOOOO friggin' jealous!) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:04:55 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Note From The Mendel Hi gang! Just got this reply from the Mendel: Penny: Thank you very much for your enthusiasm about our upcoming exhibition, voices: Joni Mitchell.  We look forward to your attendance at the opening on June 30th.  The attached email may answer some of your questions. The items available in our Gallery Shop at the opening are: voices: Joni Mitchell artbook/catalogue (aprox. price: CDN$45); voices: Joni Mitchell exhibition poster (approx price: CDN$10). Feel free to inform your discussion group of this material.  These items may also be purchased near the end of June via our website,  www.mendel.saskatoon.sk.ca. Please contact me with further questions or concerns. Regards, Ian Eichhorn Communications Mendel Art Gallery Me again: I thought I read earlier, in one of the press releases, that there may be prints available there??? I'm going to still keep my fingers crossed on that one, but planning on taking my print of Charlie Down In Mexico out of it's frame for the event anyway. ;-) Cheers Penny PS It's a lovely Joni day in Portland! KINK is been playing a Joni song every half hour today. EYHONKL! (Eat Your Hearts Out Non KINK Listeners) ;-D NP on KINK How Do You Stop :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us versus them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 00:12:51 +0100 From: Howard Subject: B(r)ass on Cotton Avenue, mermaid cafe Jamie was asking about the little brass section at the end of Cotton Avenue. I've read somewhere else that this was played by Jaco on the bass, but to be honest, it sounds so much like a little 3-part brass section, I can't imagine how you would get that sound on the bass. The attack and sustain on some of the chords is *very* brass like, and rather un-bass like ... especially on the higher chords at the end of the brass/bass bit. I'd bet money that someone played trombone on that track! Howard W ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 00:12:26 +0100 From: Howard Subject: mermaid cafe The mermaid cafe was in Matala, on the south coast of Crete. I tried to find it when I visited Matala last year, but couldn't. We were looking for both the english and Greek words for "Mermaid", but didn't see anything. Maybe it was taken over and renamed? It was great to see Matala and the caves, and imagine Joni and friends living there in the early 70s, but apart from that, the place is a bit of a tourist nightmare! There are loads of other places on Crete that are absolutely gorgeous though - amazing countryside, beaches, mountains, gorges, old towns and villages ... Howard W P.S The weird thing was, the whole time we were on Crete, we didn't see the moon once! When we were at matala, we though it would be nice to see the "Matala moon", but even though it was a clear night, the moon was nowhere to be seen! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 17:20:24 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary I was just presented a copy of this book today, as a gift from a not-so-secret admirer (my longtime love, Addie). :-) With a copyright date of 2000, it's edited by Stacy Luftig, and includes interviews, articles and reviews from all phases of Joni's career, and ends with her in the process of recording BSN. It also contains a nifty "quick reference" career chronology. In the short time I've been a member of the JMDL, I don't recall having seen anyone mention it. I thought some listers might be unaware of its existence, so I wanted to let you all know it's out there. Has anyone read it? Any comments? Having just finished Brian Hinton's biography (not nearly as flawed as I feared, but flawed nonetheless), this arrived just in time to keep my Joni-intensive reading going. :) "Boston Jim" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:38:17 +0100 From: Howard Subject: Lyrics book errors/corrections Brian Gross wrote: > When the book first came out, we found a large number of 'errors' in the lyrics > as printed, compared to how we 'knew' them to be. Paul Pennington wrote: > Thanks for the info. > > If someone here does indeed have a list of errors for the book "Joni >Mitchell, The Complete Poems and Lyrics", please post it to the list. >It should go on the web pages as well. It was me that compiled all the errors from the lyrics book. And yes, there were quite a large number of them. After spending all that time listening to each and every Joni song to check the lyrics book (as well as getting help from others who sent in the errors they found) I realised that there was NO definitive source of correct Joni lyrics. The lyrics book had errors, as did the CD inserts (and the songbooks)! Unfortunately, despite the work that went into them, the corrections did not get included in the 2nd edition of the lyrics book. However, there *is* now a definitive source of correct Joni lyrics: www.jonimitchell.com Wally sent me all the lyric pages, and I went through them to add in all the corrections from the book, so the lyrics at JM.com are the ones to use as a reference. Sadly, there were a lot of sloppy errors in the Lyrics book, e.g missed lines: "And you were in the parking lot Subterranean by your own design The virtue of your style inscribed Jesus was a beggar, he was rich in grace" Oops. Howard W. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 16:14:32 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: JMDL Yard Sale Joniphiles - While cleaning out the basement, I came across a stash of the Joni shirts we offered to list members a few years ago. I thought I would offer these up to list members who may have missed out on the first go-round. Details here: http://www.jmdl.com/shirts.htm Not all sizes are available so call before midnight tomorrow! :-) Les NP: Patty Larkin "Don't Explain" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 19:24:35 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary In a message dated 06/06/2000 5:26:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jll@tampabay.rr.com writes: << With a copyright date of 2000, it's edited by Stacy Luftig, and includes interviews, articles and reviews from all phases of Joni's career, and ends with her in the process of recording BSN. It also contains a nifty "quick reference" career chronology. In the short time I've been a member of the JMDL, I don't recall having seen anyone mention it. I thought some listers might be unaware of its existence, so I wanted to let you all know it's out there. >> Hey Boston Jim, If you would have joined just a few months earlier, you would have seen several posts on the great reviews of Stacey's book. She is a member of the JMDL, and you'll notice in the acknowlegements she mention's Wally's page, Les and the JMDL. It is a great reference source! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:05:06 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: JMDLers' CDs At 07:00 PM 6/6/00 EDT, Jimmy wrote: >Now I have 4 autographed JMDL CD's (Victor Johnson, Fred >Simon, Steve Polifka and David Lahm) I still have to get Bryan Thomas' Jimmy, Another one for your "wish list" should be Linda Worster. Over the years she has produced a CD and several tapes of her own material. She doesn't post to the Joni list very often but she does read the JMDL and is a true admirer of Joni's artistry. If interested, e-mail her at: I'm sure she would be happy to autograph a copy for you. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 21:01:48 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary In a message dated 6/6/00 3:26:20 PM US Central Standard Time, jll@tampabay.rr.com writes: << Has anyone read it? Any comments? >> I read this book and LOVED it, Jim! I read it in record time too, I'm a slow reader and had it knocked out in a week or so. Lots of great pics, and I'm sure you'll read lots of stuff you'll have comments about! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 21:10:39 EDT From: Leenycas@aol.com Subject: Camden Show Report Just read the report and saw the photos of the Camden show. Like all the others, it was fantastic! She did look stunning that nite. I was a little worried as to how this show would go, due to the fact the Detroit show got messed up. It sounds like she recovered nicely and had a great audience. I'm glad she mentioned that bit about reading the ads and knowing what to expect--I've been wondering about this myself. Nobody could ever accuse her of false advertising--the ads were very clear about what she was going to do. I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for those who were disappointed that she didn't do a whole lot of old material. Thanks to all those who filed their reports, I can't tell you how much I enjoyed reading them. I attended the 5/23 MSG show, and the report was right on the money and great reading. Colleen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:23:35 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary Thanks for the info, Jimmy. :-) I'm really looking forward to digging in to it! "Boston Jim" > Hey Boston Jim, > If you would have joined just a few months earlier, you would have seen > several posts on the great reviews of Stacey's book. She is a member of the > JMDL, and you'll notice in the acknowlegements she mention's Wally's page, > Les and the JMDL. It is a great reference source! > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:38:58 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: JMDLers' CDs I'd like to put in a "Thumbs *Way* Up" recommendation for Kate Bennett's new CD, Over The Moon. Kate's original songs are great, and she's a fine performer. Not that she needed the help, but her CD features the lead guitar playing of Jimmy Messina and Jeff Pevar (the "P" in David Crosby's band, CPR), and a songwriting collaboration with Kenny Loggins, on which he sings background vocals. Kate contributes to the list quite a bit. Her address is www.katebennett.com "Boston Jim" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:49:33 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary Thanks, Bob. I'm smacking my lips in anticipation. :-) Speaking of pics, did you catch the one on Page 169? It's of Bonnie Raitt on stage with Rickie Lee Jones, but the caption says Rickie Lee is Joni!!! They look a *little* bit alike, particularly in this picture, but I can't imagine this having gotten past Stacy Luftig or whomever. I'll be Joni *loves* it...not!!! :-) Aside, from that quibble, though, the book looks just great. I see a lot of the articles, interviews, and reviews listed in the Table Of Contents which Brian Hinton excerpted for his biography. It'll be nice to read them in complete form. "Boston Jim" > > I read this book and LOVED it, Jim! I read it in record time too, I'm a slow > reader and had it knocked out in a week or so. Lots of great pics, and I'm > sure you'll read lots of stuff you'll have comments about! > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:18:48 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: JMDL Site Les- The page for the fest really looks great! I can't wait to see the performance pics of all the artists. People have been calling me up here locally and asking me about it and if I will do it again etc. Apparently people really dug it. It's not just us "freaks". If Jim Lamadamadoo would give off his lazy ass and develop those pics we could see em. BTW can we change the name to JoniFest New Orleans instead of PazFest?? I realize that IT IS "all about me", but really. Either that or change the others to AsharaFest or HugsFest and JulieZ WebbFest or FertileDaughterFest. You are stroking my "great big ego" a little too much here. Best wishes, Paz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:24:18 -0700 (PDT) From: skimmerling@yahoo.com Subject: Yahoo! Auto Response Please note that I will be away from Tuesday, June 6, through Friday, June 9, and will have very limited access to e-mail. I will gladly respond to your message upon my return. Thank you! - -------------------- Original Message: >From owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Wed Jun 07 03:24:17 2000 Return-Path: X-Track: 12: 40 Received: from jane.smoe.org (EHLO smoe.org) (216.200.102.14) by mta108.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jun 2000 20:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id WAA15370; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:39:59 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id WAA15283 for joni-digest-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200006070239.WAA15283@smoe.org> From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #314 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubsc _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:30:00 EDT From: Guitarpoint@aol.com Subject: Re: The JM Companion: Four Decades Of Commentary <> I just found the book and was so glad to. I'm devouring it now. I didn't realize that pic on pg 169 was Ricki Lee, but did think it was the most UN-Joni pic ever. Now I know why. Dave c ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 23:39:39 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Site In a message dated 6/6/2000 11:30:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, michaelpaz@telocity.com writes: << BTW can we change the name to JoniFest New Orleans instead of PazFest?? I realize that IT IS "all about me", but really. Either that or change the others to AsharaFest or HugsFest and JulieZ WebbFest or FertileDaughterFest. You are stroking my "great big ego" a little too much here. Best wishes, Paz >> Michael, I do beleave Les is using subliminal tactics to get you to think about having one next year. I know we can all pitch in a bit more and make your life easier. In all seriousnes it was one of the best weekends of my life. It flew by and was just fabulous!!! Whoo-Hooo! Catgirl Dreaming of a N'Arlins Fest 2001~! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Yahoo! Auto Response OH NO !!!!! Not another autoresponder mailbox flood !!!!!!!! Set up your filters to take mail from skimmerling@yahoo.com directly to your trash until he gets back or Les un.subs him. Brian - --- skimmerling@yahoo.com wrote: > Please note that I will be away from Tuesday, June 6, through Friday, June 9, > and will have very limited access to e-mail. I will gladly respond to your > message upon my return. Thank you! > > -------------------- > > > Original Message: > > > From owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Wed Jun 07 03:24:17 2000 > Return-Path: > X-Track: 12: 40 > Received: from jane.smoe.org (EHLO smoe.org) (216.200.102.14) > by mta108.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jun 2000 20:11:57 -0700 (PDT) > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id WAA15370; > Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:40:09 -0400 (EDT) > Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:39:59 -0400 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id WAA15283 > for joni-digest-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:39:01 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:39:01 -0400 (EDT) > Message-Id: <200006070239.WAA15283@smoe.org> > From: les@jmdl.com (JMDL Digest) > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2000 #314 > Reply-To: joni@smoe.org > Sender: les@jmdl.com > Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni > Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com > Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubsc ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:49:12 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: JMDL Site Michael wrote: >Either that or change the others to AsharaFest or HugsFest >and JulieZ WebbFest or FertileDaughterFest.> or ChiggerFest ! Catgirl wrote: >I know we can all pitch in a bit more and make your life > easier. In all seriousnes it was one of the best weekends of >my life. It flew by and was just fabulous!!! Whoo-Hooo! > Catgirl - Dreaming of a N'Arlins Fest 2001~! YAH!!! Now that Jack's hit the road, GO BACK JACK AND DO IT AGAIN!! ;-D Kakki NP: Kate Bennett - Promise Me ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 21:08:19 -0700 (PDT) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Circle Game Was "The Circle Game" ever included in a movie soundtrack (we're not talking television). Please let me know. Thanks, Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:09:41 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Marcels take: Pazfest: Night of Nights part 3 In a message dated 6/2/2000 11:47:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SCJoniGuy@aol.com writes: << I loved looking out at the non-listers to see their reaction. Catgirl, you should have seen this lady's face light up when you broke into "Coyote", and it was especially superb with Eric/Jaco and David L. tickling the ivories. >> Bob, You are such a doll. It was such an experience for me to be a part of such a wonderful event. I am still catching up on email and with the worthingtones first gig this Saturday I have had no time to really write down my review of the Joni shows let alone the grand time I had down in New Orleans. I even comtemplated moving there but if Michael moves to Hunduras there will be no one down there to hang out with... So PA for now but still looking for that perfect place to live. Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:10:56 -0700 From: "Scott Tennell" Subject: The Wherehouse Promo Video Hi Everyone, I have this memory of a free rental video that was available at the Wherhouse music store when Night Ride Home was released. I remember seeing many on the shelves. I don't know why I didn't keep one. It was free. I thought maybe it would be offered as a previously viewed video or something. Has this been discussed? Is this the VH1 part that is on the video tree? I remember this awesome riff she did on her (klein?) guitar. It sounded a little like Cherokee Louise if my memory serves me well. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:12:34 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: The Top Ten Bad Group Names Inspired by Joni Mitchell Songs It’s time for tonight’s Top Ten List, ladies and gentlemen… Are you ready? Tonight’s Top Ten List is… (SFX: DRUMROLL) The Top Ten Bad Group Names Inspired by Joni Mitchell Songs... (SFX: APPLAUSE, CHEERS) Number Ten: MT SpotLite... (SFX: APPLAUSE) Number Nine: The Ikette Laundries... (SFX: APPLAUSE) Number Eight: The Sunset Pigs... (SFX: APPLAUSE) Number Seven: Trina and the Wampums... (SFX: APPLAUSE) Number Six: Mooney and Junie... (SFX: APPLAUSE) Number Five: Three Waitresses... (SFX: APPLAUSE) Number Four: Sticky and Black... (SFX: APPLAUSE) Number Three: Up With Somebody... (SFX: APPLAUSE) Number Two: The Artist Formerly Known As Playing Real Good For Free... (SFX: APPLAUSE AND DRUMROLL) And the Number One Bad Group Name Inspired by Joni Mitchell Songs... Edith and the Pips! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:12:18 -0600 From: evian Subject: S'toon, Mendel, etc. (Gonna be daring and call this JC) Hey gang, Just skimming the list again this week, so I really don't know what's going on, but I did read a post or two about S'toon. I have booked the afternoon of the 30th off (Yay!!!!) and since nobody is really around the office that day, I am going to try to leave at 11 a.m. So, I should be in S'toon by 1 p.m. Anyway, I think I still have to make my appearance at the reunion on Saturday and possibly a wedding ceremony...don't even ask), but I am staying Friday night for sure in S'toon, and I am wondering when everyone else is coming into town who is coming. Are people arriving Thurs, or Friday, or what? Shall we set up some kind of meeting place, or if anyone needs a pick-up at the airport on Friday afternoon, I might be able to swing it. Let me know what's going on people... email me privately or cc me since I never know if I will get a chance to read the digest on a particular day. Happy Wednesday, Evian np: Sign O' The Times -- The Artist Now Known Yet Again as Prince ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:17:14 -0700 From: "Scott Tennell" Subject: HDCD? Can someone please enlighten me on the whole HDCD thing? I know the cds in the store have more of the original artwork. What's the inside like? I only have two (not counting all the newer ones that came out originally with HDCD on them) HDCD (Clouds and Mingus). Can you hear a difference in sound quality? Do you recommend certain that I replace any non HDCD with HDCD cds? The quality of the first cd (Seagull) always bugged me. Some of my favorite Joni songs are on that cd. Is there a difference? Any thoughts? Sincerely, Scott NP: Time After Time (Casandra Wilson) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:21:37 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Site In a message dated 6/6/00 8:30:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, michaelpaz@telocity.com writes: << BTW can we change the name to JoniFest New Orleans instead of PazFest?? I realize that IT IS "all about me", but really. Either that or change the others to AsharaFest or HugsFest and JulieZ WebbFest or FertileDaughterFest. You are stroking my "great big ego" a little too much here. >> OK, Here's MY idea: Change the name of PazFest to "MG-Couldn't-Make-It-And-Now-She-Is-Sick-With-Envy-Along-With-Zillion-Of-Other - -Couldn't-Make-It-List-Members" Fest. Works for me, just a bit tricky to run through spillchick and fit on the front band of a baseball cap. MG - 5 daze to 'N-Synch, but who's really counting? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 00:27:10 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: The Top Ten Bad Group Names Inspired by Joni Mitchell Songs In a message dated 6/6/00 9:24:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Murphycopy@aol.com writes: << And the Number One Bad Group Name Inspired by Joni Mitchell Songs... Edith and the Pips! >> Another winner. Damn! Now I'm laughing too hard, it's revved up my adrenaline and I'm gonna have to stay up past my bedtime to calm down! MG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 21:29:28 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: JMDLers' CDs Boston Jim wrote: > Kate's original songs are great, and she's a fine performer. Not that she needed the help, but her CD >features the lead guitar playing of Jimmy Messina and Jeff Pevar (the "P" in David Crosby's band, >CPR), and a songwriting collaboration with Kenny Loggins, on which he sings background >vocals. You took the words right out of my mouth and I agree completely, Jim! Thanks to Kate's generosity, some of us received her CD as a party favor in New Orleans and it is beautiful and very soothing. I previously recall learning that my favorite boys Loggins and Messina were featured but had no idea that my most FAVE new boy Peev played on it, too! Fantastic, Kate! While crawlin' and drawlin' in Nawlins, some of us were talking about what a great idea it would be to put up a special place on the JMDL site that features our Joni list musicians. Les felt very strongly the same way. We have an impressive group here. Kakki NP: Kate Bennett - The Harvest ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #235 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?