From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #223 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, May 31 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 223 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: ["Wally Kairuz" ] Marcels trailer: Journey to New Orleans JoniFest! [1] [MDESTE1@aol.com] Re: Marcels trailer: Journey to New Orleans JoniFest! [1] ["Alison Einers] RE: Twisted... ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Atlanta mystery man [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Brian Hinton's Joni Bio [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] ACOY revelations ["Michael Bird" ] WHAT A WEEKEND!!! (on the long side) [AsharaJM@aol.com] RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #220 Valerie ["Pat Post" ] the next Joni record ["Michael Bird" ] Re: Is Joni doing autographs? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: joe, new to list - concerts/internet - jc [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Marcels trailer: Journey to New Orleans JoniFest! [1] ["cassy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:44:37 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: hi and welcome willy! i have always envied all the willies in the world because they could be joni's child and her father too!!! [though in that case one should have married joni's mother eeeewwwwwwwww!] i am also a nomad! w-A-llyK > As a new member of the JMDL I have to say I am astounded at the depth > and devotion all you fellow friends of spirit commit to your > appreciation of Joni. I had no idea there were so many of us. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:08:39 EDT From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Marcels trailer: Journey to New Orleans JoniFest! [1] Im going to send this now just because I just got home form the airport and Im a gamey toad from the flights. So I havent even showered because part of the wedding vows is that the Woman always gets to use the shower and the warm towells first. So I had a little time and though I would report back a preliminary overview to get some things out of the way so as to allow for greater in depth reporting of what amounted to the night of a lifetime in the Joni Tribute Concert. I want to spend considerable time on that because it was so over the top incredible that I want to RESEARCH what I saw and heard.The depth of what happened that night deserves the revelation of the backgrounds of some of the people who played after which you will all realize how lucky we all were to be there. Michael Paz the host (err...which is why its been called Pazfest now for months) put on a three day production that it will be very hard for anyone to top in the future. It was bigger than the City of Los Angeles Millenium Celebration (rimshot). (inside joke). The only thing I can say to describe it now, is that in all my life, and having gone to hundreds of professional performances going all the way back to the mid-60s, I would probably have to place this night in the all time top 10 of great great nights in my entire life. It was preposterous and we were all pinching ourselves. In fact Im going to go out on a limb and say that this was one of those once in a lifetime things that you should have absolutely gone DEEEEEP into hock to find a way to have been there. If it choked you financially practically to death you would be HAPPY back at home eating your macaroni and cheese for the next month with the BIGGEST smile on your face knowing that you were there. I would go even farther and say this was better than seeing Joni herself. I know I know Marcels full of beans again....but I mean it. Maybe not seeing Joni for the first time in your life but beyond that yes because this was a far better ......... no... this was ten times better than the big time TNN TV tribute to Jonis music. It even had an answer to KD Langs duds. This show absolutely showcased about every phase Joni has gone through in songwriting and it did it in incredible depth played by amazing musicians. The old folk tunes had phenomenal renditions, the Hejira, and For the Roses phases freaks had a big helping of their style preference,...and Jonis Jazz phase with Hissing of Summer Lawns material went off the richter scale and blew the doors off the building. Virtually every album had several songs contributed. Songs that I absolutely do not and have never liked that much had me howling with the pure pleasure of listening to this great stuff. So I want to work on the Joni Tribute Night in detail report before I post it. Now having said that I also need to say that the entire event which spans three to four days needs to be described as well so I think I need to break it into two separate posts. I had heard about these fests and even got the video from the first two at Julie Webbs house in Pittsburgh and at Asharas in Toppsfield. I found the one I finally got to everything good that I had read in the past reviews. This time we were lucky and we had this incredible person in Paz who has the abilities and connections necessary to produce a night like this was at the Howlin Wolf. If you have ever seen the movie The Coneheads ??? Remember the fireworks demonstration at the homecoming game at haltime that Dan Akroyd did. Thats what Paz did to/for us. However we also had a less spectacular (obviously) but equally interesting and musically fun two nights at Mikes house and at the gourmet restaraunt, and the day after. New Orleans and the surrounding area itself is a big time place and it knows it. Its totally different in many good ways. Thanks to Mikes great buddy Jack we were able to have somewhat of a guide and limo service that made it all go smoothly. WE can never thank Mike enough for making this trip what it was. Thats it for now. Wish you all could have been there. I will come back with part two probably tomorrow. marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:37:33 -0600 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: Re: Marcels trailer: Journey to New Orleans JoniFest! [1] well, gosh, marcel. thanks alot for not making me feel even WORSE for not going. i think i'll go jump off a bridge. just kidding. ashara has her work cut out for her, no? i will start practicing my guitar so that everyone can say "alison's performance at topsfield '00 was so much better than any performance at pazfest!!!" now, if you'll excuse me, i have to go find a bridge. really jealous (but happy for all who were lucky enough to attend), alison e. in slc. - ---------- >From: MDESTE1@aol.com >To: les@jmdl.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Marcels trailer: Journey to New Orleans JoniFest! [1] >Date: Tue, May 30, 2000, 5:08 PM > >Im going to send this now just because I just got home form the airport and >Im a gamey toad from the flights. So I havent even showered because part of >the wedding vows is that the Woman always gets to use the shower and the warm >towells first. > >So I had a little time and though I would report back a preliminary overview >to get some things out of the way so as to allow for greater in depth >reporting of what amounted to the night of a lifetime in the Joni Tribute >Concert. I want to spend considerable time on that because it was so over the >top incredible that I want to RESEARCH what I saw and heard.The depth of what >happened that night deserves the revelation of the backgrounds of some of the >people who played after which you will all realize how lucky we all were to >be there. > >Michael Paz the host (err...which is why its been called Pazfest now for >months) put on a three day production that it will be very hard for anyone to >top in the future. It was bigger than the City of Los Angeles Millenium >Celebration (rimshot). (inside joke). The only thing I can say to describe it >now, is that in all my life, and having gone to hundreds of professional >performances going all the way back to the mid-60s, I would probably have to >place this night in the all time top 10 of great great nights in my entire >life. It was preposterous and we were all pinching ourselves. In fact Im >going to go out on a limb and say that this was one of those once in a >lifetime things that you should have absolutely gone DEEEEEP into hock to >find a way to have been there. If it choked you financially practically to >death you would be HAPPY back at home eating your macaroni and cheese for the >next month with the BIGGEST smile on your face knowing that you were there. > >I would go even farther and say this was better than seeing Joni herself. I >know I know Marcels full of beans again....but I mean it. Maybe not seeing >Joni for the first time in your life but beyond that yes because this was a >far better ......... no... this was ten times better than the big time TNN TV >tribute to Jonis music. It even had an answer to KD Langs duds. > >This show absolutely showcased about every phase Joni has gone through in >songwriting and it did it in incredible depth played by amazing musicians. >The old folk tunes had phenomenal renditions, the Hejira, and For the Roses >phases freaks had a big helping of their style preference,...and Jonis Jazz >phase with Hissing of Summer Lawns material went off the richter scale and >blew the doors off the building. Virtually every album had several songs >contributed. Songs that I absolutely do not and have never liked that much >had me howling with the pure pleasure of listening to this great stuff. So I >want to work on the Joni Tribute Night in detail report before I post it. > >Now having said that I also need to say that the entire event which spans >three to four days needs to be described as well so I think I need to break >it into two separate posts. I had heard about these fests and even got the >video from the first two at Julie Webbs house in Pittsburgh and at Asharas in >Toppsfield. I found the one I finally got to everything good that I had read >in the past reviews. This time we were lucky and we had this incredible >person in Paz who has the abilities and connections necessary to produce a >night like this was at the Howlin Wolf. If you have ever seen the movie The >Coneheads ??? Remember the fireworks demonstration at the homecoming game at >haltime that Dan Akroyd did. Thats what Paz did to/for us. However we also >had a less spectacular (obviously) but equally interesting and musically fun >two nights at Mikes house and at the gourmet restaraunt, and the day after. > >New Orleans and the surrounding area itself is a big time place and it knows >it. Its totally different in many good ways. Thanks to Mikes great buddy Jack >we were able to have somewhat of a guide and limo service that made it all go >smoothly. WE can never thank Mike enough for making this trip what it was. >Thats it for now. Wish you all could have been there. I will come back with >part two probably tomorrow. > >marcel deste ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:23:36 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Twisted... oooooooooooooooooooooh i love twisted!!! it's a great song to sing when you're doing house chores. "my analyst told me...bang! [slam fridge door closed] that i was right out of my head [swish swish swish while you vacuum the rugs] ... the way he described it... ba-boom! [shake your hips as you toss the salad]" and so forth! wallyk > > Colin wrote: > > < > favourite Joni tracks, > > even if she didn't write it. It's a good laugh >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 22:50:34 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Atlanta mystery man In a message dated 5/26/00 8:10:51 PM US Central Standard Time, alice@mindspring.com writes: << This is my first post to the list after lurking around in the shadows for quite a few months. >> Hiya Alice! Very strange to see a first post from someone who I've already met! :-) Glad to hear from you, thanks for stepping out of the shadows... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:16:54 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Brian Hinton's Joni Bio In a message dated 5/28/00 10:59:33 AM US Central Standard Time, jll@tampabay.rr.com writes: << I haven't started reading it yet, and was curious as to any opinions of it. Thanks. :-) >> I'm in the midst of it Jim...I read some on the plane to N.O. It's not been given a high review here, but I'm really enjoying it. Yes, he makes some mistakes, but not so many, and he's obviously a fan. You have to throw away some of the silly asides he says, but it's a compelling read - very thorough, he reviews EVERY song on each album which I think is cool... Plus he lists a pretty good COVERS discography in the back! ;-) Bob NP: Elvis, "Love Me Tender" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:24:13 -0500 From: "Michael Bird" Subject: ACOY revelations At the risk of going off on a tangent, a new thread, would anyone out there be willing to educate me on some of the musical intricacies occurring in "A Case of You" as arranged for BSN? How do Vince Mendoza & Co. seem sometimes to completely mask the fact that the song is in simple 4/4 time? Do the musicians or jazz-interpretation-enthusiasts among us have any answers to this mystery? How the heck did they do it? I think it's that I'm overwhelmed by how this arrangement seems to be an improvement over the original, which was already such a stunning composition long ago, simply stated, simply played. It's been echoed in the list over and over again, but I think I'm just catching on to the extraordinary richness achieved by the renewals of ACOY and BSN. It's a sign of a rich, fertile spirit. It took back-to-back playings of ACOY to serve up this little epiphany. One last thing and then I'll go away: the phrasing she uses on the words, "on the back" ( ... of a cartoon coaster) in the newer BSN get me every time, they play in my head as I fall asleep at night, in my dweems, first thing in the morning . . . Nickel Chief, feeling humbled. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:29:14 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: WHAT A WEEKEND!!! (on the long side) Where do I begin? Picked up Jacky from England through crazy Boston traffic on Friday night. Saturday morning, set out for Heather's house in CT. She is the most gracious hostess, and an immaculate housekeeper! (In my next life, I will be the same, I keep telling myself.) Off to a delicious dinner with Heather, Fred, Jacky, Jenny, Kenny, and Patrick, and then on to the Oakdale Theater. My first mission was to buy all the goodies I had promised people I would snag. I had a long list, and credit card in hand. One problem. One MAJOR problem. That night, there was a sign saying, "CASH ONLY!" Seems there was no phone line into that area, and they did not have the means to do cards. On top of this, the ATM machine had also broken down. I had only brought about $60 in cash, hardly a dent in the mission I had taken on. I had wanted to take care of all this Saturday night, as I would be busy taking photographs on Sunday. So.....a woman's got to do what a woman's got to do. I begged. I pleaded. I cajoled everyone within 10 feet of me for money. I gathered all the cash I could from nearby JMDLers. Patrick had to forcibly hold me back from approaching complete strangers, so intent on my mission was I. I did run into one of the teachers from my son's school, and after a quick hug, needled $50 out of her and her date and moved on to my next victim. I finally got settled into my seat, 2nd row, dead center. Heather, I can never thank you enough for getting these seats. It was the joy of a lifetime! I swear, she had eye contact with all of us sitting there. Joni is having a ball with this gig, and it showed in every second of this show. She was smiling, moving, happy!!! Her voice was wonderful. Some highlights for me: Be Cool: was never a favorite of mine, but I had a new appreciation for it after hearing it live, and in its new form. When she sang "Don't whiiiiiiine," she pinched her nose so it was high and nasally. Too cute! A Case of You: Cried hysterically throughout the whole thing. Thankfully, Patrick's supportive arm was around my shoulder, and Jenny's supportive hand was holding mine. I just completely fell apart. (What can I say? I wear my heart on my sleeve!) I especially loved how she spat out "Oh, Canada!" It just brought the whole poignancy right to the very surface. I Wish I Were In Love Again: when she sang, "The faint aroma of performing seals" she put her hand up to her nose. Ludwig's Tune: Floored me. Absolutely floored me. I love this arrangement!! Leaving the Oakdale, a few hours sleep, and then back to Boston for a quick shower and change, and on to dinner with JMDLers, Maggie, Chuck E., DJ, Joe, Robbert, Jacky, and assorted significant others and friends. I had to wolf (that lives in Lindsay?) down my food so I could get to the venue early, as I was the concert photographer that evening for jonimitchell.com. (A million thank you's to Jim for the opportunity!) The Boston show was every bit as wonderful as CT, although a bit different in parts. The venue was very different, as Boston was an outside venue, and the crowd was a bit more rowdy. Nothing, but nothing could spoil this show. Not even the (ahem) choice of attire that Joni wore. Back to the Seaport Hotel where the die-hards met up again for after concert conversation, including Simon, Roberto, and Ric. At one point, I felt a what only can be described as a vice grip on my arm, and Maggie was leading me into the very crowded bar. There was Larry Klein. Now, I am a very outgoing person, and will talk to anyone, but I am very uncomfortable approaching celebrities and getting autographs. But, what can I say? I was caught up in the moment, and asked for an autograph or two. Finally, at 3 AM I snuggled into bed for a few hours sleep before going off on Monday to show Jacky as much of New England as possible before her evening flight. First, off to the Photo store to one-hour develop the prints from Sunday night. I was sweating absolute bullets, because my camera jammed, and I wasn't sure I had gotten anything at all. The minute we walked into the store, the guy behind the counter said, "How was the Joni concert last night?" Now, those that know me well know I am a firm believer in ESP, intuition, psychic knowledge and all that, but I had never even met this guy before, and he was just holding a roll of film that he had no idea of what was on it! I couldn't even answer him. All I could do is stand there with my jaw to the ground, wondering how the hell he knew that!! Jacky, after she was done rolling on the floor with laughter, just looked at me with tears of laughter, and said "Your shirt!" Of course, I was wearing my JMDL denim shirt. (DUH!) Jacky will probably never let me live that one down as Patrick will never let me live the "panhandling" down. LOL!!! To make a long story even longer, the pictures came out fine, we had a wonderful time by the ocean in Newburyport, Jacky got to her plane in time, and it was one of the most enjoyable weekends I've ever had. Thanks to all who made it possible! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:37:03 EDT From: "Pat Post" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #220 Valerie Hey Valerie, How did your Hubby get those second row seats? I got fifth row the second they went on sale. I am so excited to see HER tomorow night. The reviews and comments from this lively bunch has got me totally geeked. Pine Knob is the best place to see a concert that I have ever been. I have been so fortunate to see Joni there three times so far. I really want to get my camera in there in the worst way. Thanks, to everyone on this fabulous list for the spectacular build up to the concert. I know she will be exquisite. Take Care, and by the way I love 'Blue Boy' and 'Ethiopia', the intensity of her voice on these tunes is what I love about Joni. I have quite often skipped over 'Shades of Scarlet Conquering',on THOSL. The Lyrics are great. I think it's the melody that turns me off. Speaking of Pine Knob in Detroit, When the Miles of Aisles came out I swore the she took the cover of Pine Knob, but I could't find a credit anywhere. Does anyone have the difinitive info on this? Bye for now, Pat P. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 23:49:47 -0500 From: "Michael Bird" Subject: the next Joni record I know that we've discussed what songs we'd LIKE to see on the next Joni record (her older material renewed in the orchestral style, assuming she doesn't do the "Dreary Christmas" one first). But now I'd like to know what songs everyone thinks are most LIKELY to end up on that record. Do I smell an idea for a cool contest? Submit your list of the twelve songs you think Joni will do next, and win . . . stolen clothes! hair in your bathtub drain! a boom-boom pachyderm! the latest styles and colors! (is that our new car, Charles?) Anyway, a proposed twelve-song album would have to include: 1. Judgement of the Moon and Stars 2. Be Cool 3. Hejira 4. For the Roses I would hastily presume Joni would tackle the following: 5. Shadows and Light 6. Amelia 7. Woodstock 8. Night Ride Home 9. The Magdalene Laundries 10. Down to You 11. The Sire of Sorrow 12. Overture/Cotton Avenue Anybody have any leads? Better choices? Anecdotes? Admonishments? (This is by no means a wish list, just a speculation . . . dreams, dreams and false alarms). Nickel Chief ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:09:18 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Is Joni doing autographs? In a message dated 5/30/00 3:37:36 PM US Central Standard Time, Merk54@aol.com writes: << Anyway, I would love to get her to autograph it, so if anyone knows anything, I would appreciate the info. >> Hi Jack, I snagged Joni's autograph in Atlanta '98, and tried to meet up with her again this time 'round, but she appears very sheltered and is not really circulating much...some handshakes for people on the front row, that's about it... But hey, ya never know - good luck! Bob NP: Stevie Wonder, "Summer Soft" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 00:19:05 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: joe, new to list - concerts/internet - jc In a message dated 5/29/00 10:10:53 AM US Central Standard Time, patrickl@bway.net writes: << joe, however was wearing a fantastic long-sleeved white t-shirt from the tnt tribute. i didn't know such a thing existed. the only negative emotion i experienced at that concert was green jealousy over joe's t-shirt! >> Hi Patrick (who SHOULD HAVE BEEN in N.O.), That shirt was also worn by the gracious & debonair Paz, it was a giveaway for those who attended the press party after the TNT Tribute show... Bob NP: Stevie, "Saturn" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 01:08:28 -0400 From: "cassy" Subject: Re: Marcels trailer: Journey to New Orleans JoniFest! [1] I just want to know if there will be a video or cassette for those of us who couldn't be there? Paz? anyone? Cassy N.P. Cat Stevens "Tea for the Tillerman" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 01:32:29 EDT From: Murphycopy@aol.com Subject: Desperately Seeking Shirley Yoo Do any of you JMDL people know Shirley Yoo? I think she may have touched your lives because Shirley Yoo touched mine... :) -- Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 02:56:24 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re:New Orleans JoniFest! I'll handle this question until Michael has time to give us a progress report. The short answer is maybe. I asked Michael if he understands that there's probably a LOT of enthusiasm for this material and he does understand that. Michael's priority is to raise funds for the Ruth Paz Foundation's important work- immediate burn relief for children before they can be transferred to the Shriner's Burn Center. The radio station may or may not web-cast the audio. Joni may or may not waive her royalty "pennies". The artists may or may not grant permission to their performances. The video may or may not be wedded to the audio. Let's all hope that something can be hammered out. I was there and I can tell you that there are some very special moments in the can. I'd like to get my hands on the roll call of musicians who donated their time and talents to this wonderful Foundation and post it. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "cassy" > I just want to know if there will be a video or cassette > for those of us who couldn't be there? Paz? anyone? ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #223 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?