From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #189 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 16 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 189 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: And another voice chimes in....(Long!) ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Cassette Recording of TNT Tribute to Joni- FREE- ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Cassette Recording of TNT Tribute to Joni- FREE- ["Bob Muller (Perception] Re: Joni at Woodstock/was: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) [Brian Gr] RE: 60's icon my butt ["Peg Eves" ] More thoughts... [Steve Dulson ] Re: Joni Thru the Eyes of a 9 year old [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: San Francisco Examiner review of Saturday's concert ["Kakki" ] Re: LA Times article re: Friday concert ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) [Scott Price ] Breaking Etiquette [leslie@torchsongs.com] Re: Concert reviews, etc. [MGVal@aol.com] Joni tickets MSG NYC 5/23 ["Rob and Stef Librizzi" ] Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) [peves@marlboro.edu] Detroit Concert - May 31 [Hyatt McClennen ] ACID ROCK, not Rock'n Roll [peves@marlboro.edu] Re: Favorite Careers (SJC) [peves@marlboro.edu] Boston Get-together [AsharaJM@aol.com] set lists!!! pleeze... am foaming.... [KerriLynn@aol.com] intro ??? sjc [Rich Newirth ] Concord Review ["gene mock" ] Re: Concert Programs - all gone now! ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Re: Concert Photos ["Kakki" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #257 [BMBSPIRIT@cs.com] Re: Joni on E-Greetings ["Debby Magill" ] The Paz Report! [Michael Paz ] Bay Area Show - SHORT [Bounced Message ] Bay Area Show - LONG [Bounced Message ] Joni Tix available [Christopher Kornmann ] Greek Theatre Review from Variety [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] The Website [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:15:24 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: And another voice chimes in....(Long!) Steve Dulson wrote: > I think that she had two video monitors on stage, along with > three sound monitors, so I was suprised when she used the > lyric sheet. The video monitors are usually for the singers to watch the conductor (it's a musical theatre technique) for songs that require a little more than 'doing it by feel'. Was Vince Mendoza standing behind her, out of her eyeline? It helps to see him for timing etc. Usually they put video monitors up if the orchestra/conductor is not in the pit. Judging by the photos, they were all onstage(?). > but some of the violin section were practically looking at > their watches during passages they didn't play on. They're probably wondering how much overtime they've clocked up! ;-) Sounds like a great concert anyhoo.... wish I was there.... Jamie Zoob in London ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:20:02 -0600 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: Re: Concert reviews, etc. Well, thanks so much to everyone for all these terrific posts. Lindsay & Kakki especially, thanks for your detail, depth and vividness! I couldn't possibly be more excited about the MSG shows, and even though I am a little dissapointed that I won't be experiencing Kakki, MG and others' surprise, I am very excited about the set list. I wonder if she'll change it at all? I don't know, but I would be happy either way. This will be my first time seeing Joni live, and I wouldn't care if she stood up on stage and sang commercial jingles all, night! I am a little afraid the inevitable mind-blowing I am in for... I am also so thrilled and encouraged by everyone's posts about meeting fellow listers. Being able to meet everyone makes me even that more excited for the show. I don't know what it is about this group, but we seem to be lucky that there is this intangible quality or qualities that draw us all to Joni's music...it must be a special thing because it allows so many potential strangers to become friends based on one common love. It's a pretty powerful thing, I think, and I am very greatful to be a part of it. I wish I could have been with you all in LA to experience what was no doubt, a fabulous party. Steve Dulson wrote: >I am touched, stunned, amazed, thrilled at the wondrous community >that the jmdl and JoniMitchell.com, Les and Wally, have created. >Where have you people been all my life? :) As I tried, incoherently, >to explain to someone Friday, before '98 I could gush about my Joni >fixation to maybe 1 or 2 people who had any notion (or interest) in >what I was saying. Now there is a whole bunch of you - and everyone >I've met I really, really like. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:30:27 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Cassette Recording of TNT Tribute to Joni- FREE- This is the US TNT TV special that included an all-star group of folks paying tribute to Joni and her songs. It's a 120 minute cassette (or two 60 minute ones) that was recorded from the audience at the Hammerstein Ballroom. In between performances, the audience was silent with no emcee keeping the crowd "up". That may be why Joni said it was "such a surrealistic event". I'm offering this tape free, in the classic tape trading tradition. Write me off-list for details. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:50:13 -0700 From: Ken Corral Subject: Purple Spinnaker Greetings, This is Ken Corral, part of the L.A. gang back from an over-extended weekend. I have something to pass along. I have no idea what you will make of it but here’s Steve’s Greek Theater fashion post with a small bit of Casa Alegre info thrown in for good measure. I truly wish this had been more timely but better late than never. Think of it as an antidote to the harsh bay area press reviews. (A brief bit of background: Starting with the Stormy Weather benefit concert in 1998 and continuing on through the “Painting With Words and Music” taping sessions, my partner Steve has seen fit to weigh in on what JM was wearing for the evening. Here were his reactions to Friday night’s Greek Theater show.) ________________________ Like a grand schooner she sailed forth into the warm Southern California night. Her crunchy pleated Miyake gown rolled and furled like a great purple spinnaker jib, pulling energy from the balmy air and sending it back out to us, irradiated and transformed. Did she bring us to the harbor? Like little toy boats. Not to say that those of us at the pre-party were not already sailing. Rick and Brad's Casa Alegre was wide open to the Mediterranean afternoon. We lucky few wandered through the cool, dark Spanish colonial rooms, past the famous Joni coat, out onto the patio where we met Rick, all smiles and sizzling kabobs, and Brad, all spiky blond and rapier thin. We wound our way around the pool, greeting old and new friends. Up and up we strolled, into the aerie of a pool house high above the rest, where we chatted with the exotic joniphile bartender, nibbled on taquitos, and went dreaming in a ritual of sound and time in the period tropical elegance. At the Greek, it was after 8:30 and dark when she walked out, after the orchestra's overture. The lights came up and it was just she up there, elegant and getting us to feel. The classic and ingenious gown was, we think, silk. Swirling and swooping in variously constructed areas: a suggestion of a saucy little bolero, big funnel sleeves coming from and going nowhere, cinched waist (a tummy!), and a hem above the ankle. And speaking of ankles, an eye for detail saw the snug little cuffs of pants, turned out from the same fabric but of burnished gold, peeking from under her sails. Okay, the shoes. Those of you who care deeply, and you know who you are and why, will have to content yourself with a replay-like an old erotic fantasy re-imagined for just the right moment: we had seen them before at the taping. Sleek and sexy golden sandals worthy of Helen of Troy. Only the first few rows, I bet, caught a glimpse of her toenails, but you know they were perfect and purple, of some shade. The essential information on accessories and hair? None and none required. Limit it to some simple sparkly earrings and a long, smooth and very blond helmet-more Lombard than Lake. So. We were just getting the first bits of imagery down when she told us we were doing intermission. We had to, she said-as if we both agreed it wasn't a great idea. And did she change? Oh, baby…… Since we only had a couple songs left on the program from the new album, we had a hunch we were in for a treat. And what would it be? To what far off province could she take us with a 70-piece orchestra in tow? One glimpse of the outfit and you knew: it was plain as night in her “particles-of-change” skirt! The vamp had dressed down to rock. Start with the top: more purple with a little scalloped décolletage. Over that was a long, feathery coat---almost a tailcoat---of gunmetal crunchy silk. With tight sleeves that she constantly pushed up with her large, ever-moving but empty hands. More sandals, now low-heeled and black. A hippie as seen by Hurrell. But when you saw the skirt, you knew we were up for some fun. Full-length, white, and form-fitting with a fabric dreamed up by your favorite astrologer in the middle of a major psychotic break. It breathed. On the front, there was a Gibson Girl in a swing. Poking out from under her flounces and ruffles was a sparkling wand which reached out and zapped the rest of the night-sky universe. Those charged-up particles hinted at where we were going. We heard about the moon and stars, went traveling in some vehicle, and pretty soon we were left with an empty spotlight. But we knew she was out there, so we were okay. Steve- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:45:34 -0400 From: "Bob Muller (Perception)" Subject: Cassette Recording of TNT Tribute to Joni- FREE- <> And if you prefer your tunes in CD form, lemme know if you want the TNT tribute on a CD - this is basically just the songs, not the speeches, and it sounds great! Sorry, I cannot make copies on 8-track or Edison cylinder! :~) Bob NP: B.T. Express, "Do it 'til You're Satisfied" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:50:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Joni at Woodstock/was: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) Lindsay wrote: > >> New Joni Lore: Overhead a man near me telling someone > >>that Joni had gone to Woodstock two days (Phylliss heard > >>four days from someone else) before the event to do a sound check. Kakki wrote: > >You too?! He also told Scott and Shawn Price the same story. This is some > >new Joni lore. Scott and Shawn both thought he sounded credible. Shawn > >later found a Joni colored pen painting in my STARART book entitled "The > >Road to Woodstock" and wondered some more about it all. Scott wrote: > Just before the show started Shawn and I were chatting with another couple > right outside the seating area. The guy said it would be his second time > seeing Joni perform live, the first time having been at Woodstock. I was > going to shrug it off without comment knowing it was bullshit but Shawn > gently lobbed: "I thought Joni didn't perform at Woodstock..." He proceded > to tell us that he was working at the site helping to set it up in the > weeks before the festival and that on the Tuesday prior to Woodstock's > opening Joni came up with David Crosby and they each did about four songs > for a sound check and played for 20 minutes before a crowd of only a few > thousand workers and other early-arrivals. > > At this point I remained skeptical but the guy was of the proper age and > seemed quite together and friendly and easy-going. Just about the time I > thought he might claim to have been a sound engineer or V.I.P. he told us > that he was up there to dig ditches for latrines and this little break for > some great Joni music was a welcome respite. This humble confession added > greatly to his credibility, IMO. > > Later while browsing through Kakki's "Starart" book Shawn came across a > painting by Joni, "Road to Woodstock," which was described as being done on > the way to the festival, further leading us to speculate that Joni was > there at Yasgur's Farm right before the festival began. Anyone know Croz's > e-mail addy so we can verify the story? :-) Now me: After reading this story, the lyrics popped up and smacked me in the head like a 2 by 4. "I came upon a child of God He was walking along the road And I asked him 'Where are you going?' And this he told me He said 'I'm goin on down to Yasgur's farm Gonna join a rock-n-roll band Gonna camp out on the land And try and get my soul free" The sense of this encounter is that it happened *before* the festival started. The child of God was an early arriver, as there were already thousands of people there on-site by the time Max Yasgur gave the ok for the promoters to erect the fence (haha) around the site, lest he lose a last milking of his cows. Sounds like the $60,000 question to ask Joni on Wednesday night in West Palm, Pearl, or Friday night in Atlanta, Bob. Right?? I'm anxiously awaiting my own chance to see the show in Camden on June 2nd. And maybe I'll do a 'Kakki' and get to see her at MSG next week, too ;-) Thanks for all the great reviews and stories everyone. And for the pictures too, Leslie. And a thanks in advance to our sneakier jmdlers. I can hardly wait to hear it in all its glory. Take care everyone, Brian np: NPR - Terry Gross (no relation :-( ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:32:25 -0400 From: "Peg Eves" Subject: RE: 60's icon my butt God. Anyone who thinks Joni Mitchell is merely a 60's icon is gravely uninformed and I'm so glad you DID set them straight. Thank YOU. Isn't she a blessed genius??Communicating with people who SEE the enormity of her art and relate to it like I do - is a dream come true. I have often felt isolated in my reverence for her work. For 30 years - and now - I DON'T. Way cool people!! Thank you for your impeccable taste! Peg from Vermont New lister > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Lori > R. Fye > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 1:12 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Time Out.com replies ... > > > Last week, in the midst of my annoyance over Time > Out.com's reference to Joni as a "sixties icon," I > wrote to them, repeating much of my recent letter to > the JMDL (regarding Joni's release of only two albums > in the 60s versus nine albums in the 70s, no > appearance at 1969's Woodstock, et cetera). I just > received this reply: > > --- Dean Irvine wrote: > > > Wow, thanks for all the info on Joni. Never will she > > be referred to as a '60's icon on TO's pages. > > Glad to know that! > > Lori, slowly trying to set the record straight, > in DC > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:28:04 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: More thoughts... More thoughts as the brain cells regenerate: The sound at the Greek was awesome. The orchestra did not sound electric/amplified at all. Joni's voice could have been a touch higher in the mix on a few songs, but overall, great sound. Her first outfit was not, as someone has mentioned, very flattering. It emphasized her tummy! How long has it been since I listened to WTRF? I had to ask Ken Corral if he was familiar with the song "fifty-fifty fire and ice" that she did. :) Those reviewers in SF seem to be carrying way too much baggage.... at least Hilburn in the Times came through with a decent review. ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:28:43 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Thru the Eyes of a 9 year old In a message dated 5/15/00 2:45:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, p.a.oconnor@worldnet.att.net writes: << My nine year old niece Julia was visiting me today. I walked into the living room and she had a pile of CDs on the floor. She said"You have 18 Joni Mitchell CDs!" I acknowledged that was true. >> So which two are you missing? Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:41:22 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: San Francisco Examiner review of Saturday's concert > Uneven evening with Joni Mitchell > > By Philip Elwood > EXAMINER MUSIC CRITIC thus spoke: >The hundreds of Joni cultists in the crowd went berserk during "A Case of You," cooled off >considerably until "Both Sides Now" and had a field-day of enthusiasm for the rest of the evening as >she sang, or narrated through quite a few oldies in the "Case of You," "Urge For Going" "Crazy Ride >Home" style; missing, sadly, was "The Circle Game." LOL! Is this for real??! And can someone please translate it for me? At least us cultists know her music. Geez. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:01:16 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Purple Spinnaker Thanks Steve! (and Ken) I think this is your best yet!! ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:12:20 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: LA Times article re: Friday concert Les and all, I hope you'll consider adding this review to your ever expanding collection on jmdl.com. This reviewer, Rober Hilburn, obviously "GETS IT". Especially when he says, "For more than a quarter century, Mitchell has not been seen by music observers as just a singer-songwriter, but perhaps THE singer-songwriter." His words, my emphasis. Off to COBOL class, Lamadoo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:19:48 -0700 (PDT) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Juliana's Dilemma Help Me I need to see Joni On TNT I heard there was a tribute But I was out of the country Now I’m asking Over and over If you can Dub it for me I know you Joni people Will do it for me for free Help Me I don’t know what else I can say I need to see this concert I’m getting more desperate Every day I want to hear Elton Singing “Free Man In Paris” And Sweet Honey’s “Circle Game” And I know you Joni people Will do it for me free Oh, didn’t it feel good To hear James playing “River” And Diana sing, “A Case of You” Didn’t it feel good To hear the First Lady give praise to our Joni Although some of you called Hillary a phony Help Me I need to see Joni On TNT I heard there was a tribute But I was out of the country I heard about Cyndi’s sexy dance And k.d. lang’s awful pants And I know you Joni people Will do it for me free Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:27:56 -0400 From: peves@marlboro.edu Subject: RE: TRADE: TNT for JONI BOOTLEG Bob, It's called Joni Mitchell BBC Concert 1972 My address is 142 Whitney Hill Brookline, VY 05345 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:46:34 -0600 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: pre-concert meeting plans 5/22 Hi Paul! and all others attending the MSG show on the 22nd, we are (as far as I know!) meeting at Judy's Chelsea which is located on 169 8th Avenue between 18th and 19th streets. David Lahm will be playing piano beginning at 6:00 p.m. According to David, the food is really good, it is a fifteen minute walk to the garden, and is "clean and attractive." I plan to be there around 5:00 (or possibly earlier). So far those who have expressed interest include Rose, Patrick, Tanya, Harper Lou, Lori, Sherelle (and probably others I have forgotten) I haven't heard from Emily. If you're out there, Emily, I hope you can come. I am very excited to meet everyone. Please email me if you are going and add your name to the list! best to all, alison e. > >How are things going with the Joni get together in New York. It is getting >close to the concert time now ( I am leaving this Thursday) and I am getting >a little anxious that I haven't any firm arrangements as yet. > >Cheers ! > >Paul Headon > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:00:30 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) At 09:29 PM 5/14/00 -0700, Lindsay Moon wrote: >Kakki remarked that we should have seen "Ludwig's Tune" coming >I was stunned, absolutely stunned, when she introduced the song. As >the orchestra went into the musical segment of it and she stood listening, >I thought I hope she is appreciating what an amazing piece of music this >is, to have been written at such an early point in her musical development >or career, and how it is so musically complex and advanced that it just >translates into an orchestral piece. I can't quite get my thought clear on >that, but maybe you understand what I'm saying. Hi Lindsay, Count me in with those who had no clue that "Ludwig" was part of the setlist, even while Joni told that story about Beethoven. It is an amazing composition and as stated earlier I'm so glad Joni is revisiting some of these older songs. Vince Mendoza deserves special kudos for arranging all these classic Joni numbers. I'm now curious about how much input Joni and perhaps Larry are giving Mr. Mendoza as he transcribes. He is capturing the "musically complex and advanced" qualities you write of very well. When it was first announced that Joni would be performing some of her older songs with the full orchestra the two pieces that immediately came to mind were "Ludwig" and "Paprika Plains" because they were originally recorded with orchestras making them obvious choices. But I never dreamed that Joni would include either of them. What a pleasant surprise! "Moon and Stars" was enormous and had she done only this one song I would have gone home in amazement. (taking a page from Rick and writing note to self: don't be afraid to dream more often!) Some have commented on the dissonance and slightly-chaotic version of "For The Roses" that was performed. I have been thinking about this and concluded that like so many of Joni's songs, they often require many listening sessions to sink in. This arrangement is definitely complex and not exactly what you'd call "accessible." It's a daring choice and I only wish I could be present at more of the concerts in order to get a few more "takes" on this one and then be able to more fully appreciate it. Still in a daze, Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:19:05 -0700 (PDT) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Breaking Etiquette Since Jim did it, I'll do it too - after reading my parody, I received this from Juliana: I loved that!!! :) Regards, Juliana :) The lady has a sense of humor! Welcome into the fold Juliana... Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:49:33 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: Concert reviews, etc. In a message dated 5/15/00 12:11:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, alisone@kirkhams.com writes: << I couldn't possibly be more excited about the MSG shows, and even though I am a little disappointed that I won't be experiencing Kakki, MG and others' surprise, I am very excited about the set list. >> I will say this: I knew the set lists beforehand but it was in the area of "it's all a dream, she has awaked...." Beforehand knowledge did little to dilute the delight and surprise. MG - ready to take a nap and catch up on lost weekend sleep.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:04:41 -0700 From: "Rob and Stef Librizzi" Subject: Joni tickets MSG NYC 5/23 Hi List, I have Two tickets for MSG on 5/23 in Sec 201 Row M Seat 16/17 for sale at face value 175.00. Please email rslibrizzi@tcsn.net if you want them or know anyone that could use them. Thanks Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:07:44 -0400 From: peves@marlboro.edu Subject: Re: L.A. Concert Report--The Rest (Long) God!! She's doing some early stuff with the orchestra too?? Is there an acoustic keyboard, by the way, in the show? I revel in and rejoyce in Joni's recent stuff. It is inspired. But I miss the "wires & hammers" . Like on "Moon & Stars", like on "River', like on "Rainy Night'!!!!! Long live the queen!! Peg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:14:59 -0500 From: Hyatt McClennen Subject: Detroit Concert - May 31 I'll be going to Detroit for the May 31st concert at Pine Knob and was just wondering if there's any plans for a JMDLer connection for that evening?. Please excuse me if this has already been mentioned and I failed to notice it. Debbe in Alabama ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:49:47 -0400 From: peves@marlboro.edu Subject: ACID ROCK, not Rock'n Roll Lori, I agree completely. I was just writing exactly that in an email to post. Unfortuneatley I took a moment, minimized the message and it disappeared altogether. So, thanks for saying it for me. It was "acid rock" The psycedelic era was 65 to 75 or so. The seed was sown and the revolution is still going on. It looks different. It's in our children, it's in our academic ciriculuums, in our legilation -- Let's hope the planet can hold out. Long live the queen!! Joni. Peg from Vermont ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:53:22 -0400 From: peves@marlboro.edu Subject: Re: Favorite Careers (SJC) . . . and I miss my clean white linen and my fancy french cologne !!!! Peg from VT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:03:20 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Boston Get-together Plans are in for the Boston show get together!! If you haven't received the information by now, and you are going to the show, please e-mail me as soon as possible for the plans! We would LOVE to see you there!! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:10:01 EDT From: KerriLynn@aol.com Subject: set lists!!! pleeze... am foaming.... please please please... forward me the set lists of joni's current tour!! i've been somewhat "lax" in my list reading i'm trying to make a so-called "collage".... i wont let you JMDLers down!!! please dont let me down!... i wont be able to see her :( love to all... kerrilynn np: rickielee - the magazine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:37:34 -0700 From: Rich Newirth Subject: intro ??? sjc Wasn't the musical intro at the concert from Daphnis et Chloe by Ravel? My last post before I sign off and head on vacation. I'll drop by again. Best, Rich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:50:27 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: Concord Review This was taken from an east bay paper, the Conta Costa Times. Hope you enjoy it. TimeOut HOME : TIMEOUT Published Monday, May 15, 2000 In love with Joni She may have changed her act a bit, but fans embraced her like she was singing old favorites concert review By William Friar TIMES STAFF WRITER - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- "You've changed," Joni Mitchell sang Saturday night at the Chronicle Pavilion at Concord. Look who's talking. The Mitchell who took the Pavilion stage that night was almost completely different musically from the Mitchell who first made her mark on popular music more than 30 years ago. First there was the voice. The ethereal, loop-de-loop soprano has been replaced by a rich, earthy alto. Then there was the accompaniment. Instead of a single, spare guitar line there was a full orchestra. And in case that wasn't enough firepower, several songs featured Herbie Hancock on piano and Mark Isham on trumpet. Finally, there were the songs. A singer/songwriter famous for her idiosyncratic and highly personal folk-pop songs was content to spend most of the evening singing the songs of others, songs that have become standards because of their universal sweep. The one thing that hasn't changed is the subject matter: love. Love in all its stages, from blissful discovery to obsessive fear to total heartbreak. Mitchell got a kick out of reminding her audience that the songs were going to start out rosy and quickly turn thorny. She took the crowd through a brutal arc that began with "You're My Thrill" and hit bottom in a screaming nose-dive just three songs later with "You've Changed." She did it with a devilish glee that nearly made her crack up at the beginning of that last one. Mitchell was clearly having a good time, and she seemed totally at ease on stage. As well she should have been: It was a triumphant performance. Mitchell proved herself capable of doing the chanteuse thing on classics from "Don't Go to Strangers" to "Stormy Weather." She played them all entirely straight, borrowing from a long torch-song tradition rather than trying to mold them into Joni songs. And she showed evidence of her long love affair with jazz on swinging numbers like "Sometimes I'm Happy," which had a light and breezy air in no small part thanks to Herbie Hancock's guest appearance at the piano. It was especially interesting to see her reinvent her own classics. The arrangement of "Case of You" suggested the kind of pieces Samuel Barber might have come up with if he'd been a pop-song writer. Misty, mournful cathedral strings carried the song along, with Mitchell's crystalline vocals glimmering through. Rearranged for orchestra, the song had the abstract shape of Mitchell's later music. So did "Both Sides Now," which was the emotional climax of the concert even though a number of songs followed. Mitchell's original version got much of its power from its starkness. The new one allowed the lushness of the orchestra to buoy it aloft on a cloud of sad, tender feeling. Mark Isham's trumpet was perfect here, adding just a few subtle brushstrokes of steely wistfulness. The song ended in a standing ovation that went on and on and on. Mitchell may have changed, but her fans were ready to accept and enjoy the new person she's become. Now that's love. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:55:47 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Concert Programs - all gone now! Richard wrote: >And it occurs to me: if at the other/future venues...if people are willing >to pick up 'extra' programs (lots and lots) and post here that they are >willing to mail them to 'needy non-concert-goers', then more people could >get to have and hold something from this terrific tour? Just a thought.... Ooh, yes please! I would LOVE to get hold of one of these, if anyone can manage it? I'll trade a compilation of Kiwi music for it! Hell _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 19:59:38 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Concert Photos I just checked the latest on JM.com and wow, Michael and Leslie - what gorgeous, beautiful photos of Joni! Thank you for getting them to us so quickly. I was thinking that even though Joni's various costumes don't necessarily flatter her figure, they are certainly incredible works of art. I started having this vision of the Madame Alexander Doll Company coming out with a series of Joni costume dolls with all their attendant silk and satin finery ;-D Also read some more reviews submitted on JM.com for L.A. and S.F. and was happy to see some *very* eloquent, beautiful (and accurate ;-) new additions. Yay! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:27:09 EDT From: BMBSPIRIT@cs.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #257 An interesting tidbit for American fans of Maire Brennan. I saw Mary Black in concert in NYC the night Ireland beat Italy at the Meadowlands a few years ago and she made a comment about Maire. She said in the states people know Maire as the sister of Enya, but among musical artists in Ireland, Enya is known as the sister of Maire. Bernie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:50:31 -0400 From: "Debby Magill" Subject: Re: Joni on E-Greetings Hi again! I am so glad that everyone enjoyed the Joni e-cards at www.egreetings.com ! I forgot to mention that they are free and they have a huge selection of cards to choose from! There are a lot of other musicians and some awesome movie cards. Besides Joni, my other favorite is their vast collection of Austin Powers cards! They are so funny! As far as Joni, in addition to the fan club sign-up and website link, there is also some background info on Joni and her CDs for sale! I think we should all support this incredible site! I mean, what are the chances that they'd choose Joni over some Top 40 artist for their cards?! Obviously, someone with very good taste works there :~)! Ciao for now ~ Debby in Mad Beach ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:50:41 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: The Paz Report! Friday May 12, will be a day I will remember always. It was one of the most incredible concerts I have EVER seen. From my early concert vantage point (first 3 songs) I saw her take the stage with a confidence and beauty I don't think I ever witnessed in the past. Her voice was so powerful and clear and strong. I think not having the guitar or piano appendage was very liberating for her and it reflected in her performance. This does not mean I want her to stay here forever. I would give alot just to see her sit at the piano and play a few like the old days and the VG-8 is my new best friend so I don't want her to give that up either (I don't think there is any need to worry about her quitting the brushes) She really had a good time with this format though and so did I. The concert was pretty predictable in the beginning with the expected Overture and the program running just like the sequencing on the new album from "You're My Thrill" to "Both Sides Now". A very special surprise for Freda and I was the next tune she played, "Be Cool" because we too were newly in love at the time this record came out and it is our favorite one as a couple ( we still sing Chinese Cafe together once in a while). It was an amazing version and I loved it very much. "Judgment of the Moon and Stars" was next and of course I sit on a fence between For The Roses and Hejira (leaning towards FTR this week) and the first thing it made me think of was Kakki (knowing she is a huge fan of this record). I can't wait for the new record to come out knowing there is so much FTR content already. Larry joined her on stage for an unbelievable "Hejira" followed by O MY GAWD!!!! "For The Roses" and closed the evening with "Trouble Man", which I thought she nailed. Judgment and For the Roses seem like they have some growing to do in these arrangements, but I loved them just the same (as you all probably know, she could sing the white pages and I would love it, just sing honey sing!!!) All in all I was really pleased with her selection of material and they way it played out. I dreamed of her lying across the piano and purring one or even sit behind the piano and play with the band (as she called the orchestra several times).{OK WHO PINCHED ME???} I thought her treatment of "A Case of You" borrowed alot more from the original version than on BSN and I really liked it. She seemed so comfortable with this huge band (now I am doing it) and she was loose and playful with the lyrics. She cracked me up with her comments about being grown up and adult, which she mentioned several times. I have to admit, that I had that feeling of being all grown up too (most of you who know me, KNOW, what a big kid I really am, but hey it's catchy). I thought the audience in LA was weird (as usual) and there were tons of people calling out for songs like "California" and "Help Me". I found and felt pockets of warmth throughout this beautiful venue, but there was something lacking. Maybe we needed a jmdl section for strength and support, both for us and Joni. I found myself thinking of my friends I came with and wishing I could have sat near them. I must admit I was very exhilarated by the show and could not calm my heart, but I know it put alot of folks on the sleepy side till "Stormy Weather" and from there on it was a different vibe in the room. At four different points ( "Case of You", "Be Cool", "Judgment, and "For the Roses") during the show I welled up with so much emotion I thought I would burst. During "For the Roses" I thought of old Wally and imagined him sitting in the front row with Jim and friends and his face radiant and smiling like it was in PWWAM. I also found myself thinking of dear Marian in Vienna (who I found out that night is not coming to New Orleans) and Anne who is mending and to all of you folks in Europe and down under that might not be able to be at one of the shows and I was somehow soothed with the knowledge that we can live and share through each other in this community. (and thanks to our new list sponsor,MaxiPads, we will have a "Tree" of this show) As a sound person I thought the audio crew did an amazing job. With two 56 input Yamaha PM-4K consoles, I know that was not an easy task even in skilled hands. The venue lent itself to good sound and my hat goes of to the crew that made it so special (I hope a board tape surfaces or a live release). I will have to defer to one of my friends to describe her outfits because the best I can do is say she was very beautiful and the colours and patterns she chose, as always were brilliant. If you are not yet signed up to see one of the shows, I strongly urge you to rob a bank, sell a child, or do whatever you have to do, to be a part of this wonderful time in Joni's life and legacy. I would like to thank Jim for giving me the chance to be the official photographer, which I was going to have my wife do (seeing how she is the visual artist in the family), but she got cold feet about the digital camera and threw me the ball. I have sent the Digital's to Jim which were pretty good considering the light situation and I just got our film back and there are several good ones there as well. I tried to be as unobtrusive as possible with my charge and still get a couple of shots and I am pleased with my humble results. Also to all my hosts and friends that I got to share this experience with, thank you from the bottom of my heart, and hope we can do this often! I am sorry this took a few days to come out, but I am sure you understand. I know alot of you have already posted about both shows so far and I look forward to reading them as soon as I catch up to the digests. I know there will be mo betta written reports with more details then I have given you, but I just wanted to share my feelings with all of you. ONLY 10 SHOWS LEFT. CATCH ONE OR TWO!!!!!!! Yeah, Joni! Whooooo-Hoooooooo! Michael Paz New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:47:16 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Bay Area Show - SHORT Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:43:42 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon I have to mention that because Steve was wearing a tuxedo, many people assumed he was in the show. Strangers kept coming up to him and saying they loved the orchestra. On the way home after the show, Steve, Mark and I stopped for a bite to eat. While we waited for a table, several people started applauding and yelling out, "Great show!" Steve's accomplished enough to be in the orchestra, but they didn't have a seat for a mandolinist. Our waitress, Tamara, told us that her dad introduced her to Joni's music. She was familiar with "Blue" but not any other recordings. I suggested to young Tamara, that she might want to get "Miles of Aisles." Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 22:45:13 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Bay Area Show - LONG Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:36:33 -0700 From: Leslie Mixon Wow, what a weekend! Picked up Mark (from Seattle) at the airport on Friday night and whisked him away to Buca di Beppo for a scrumptious Italian meal. Mark feels like a friend of spirit, so easy to be with, so free to be myself. We sang along with Joni all the way from San Jose to Santa Cruz along the twisting and turning curves of Highway 17. Saturday morning Mark, Steve and I walked to downtown Santa Cruz for breakfast. Ohmygosh, the International Hemp Exposition is being held this weekend. Who do we spot but Wavy Gravy sitting in his Camp Winnarainbow Truck. I march up to him and say, "Hi Wavy, you even drive your own car!" (Don't know exactly why I said that, probably thought after all his acid trips he'd probably need a driver) He replies with a smile, "Yeah, and I dress myself in the morning too!" We blabber on a bit and I proclaim, "We're going to see Joni Mitchell tonight!" Wavy says, "Oh, you lucky, have you heard her new album, I just love it!" And then he spots Mark's "Turbulent Indigo" shirt, points at it and smiles. We said our goodbyes and continued along the yellow brick road. For those of you who have been to Santa Cruz, it often feels like Oz. After breakfast and a visit to the local used book and record shop we returned home to prepare for the rest of the day's adventures. Steve ironed his tuxedo and Mark attempted to iron his new, beautiful blue dress shirt. I tried to help Mark but only made matters worse. I thought of "For Free" and the line, "...two gentlemen escorting me to the hall..." Although for this occasion I can add, "well-dressed" and "handsome." What a thrill. Joni. A photo pass. Steve and Mark. Life is good. We drove North to San Francisco along picture-perfect Highway 1, to meet up with Jim Johanson, and his partner, Andrew. We then followed them to the venue. How lucky to be able to see MG and Rich Neuwirth again, and to meet Russell Bowden. I've met so many lovely people through this community. Joni requested that photographers leave after the second song. The pressure was on and the time short. There I was, dressed in black velvet with a gardenia, down on my knees, furiously snapping, the only female in the bunch. I marched up to that stage and positioned myself right in front of Joni. I was the JM.com photographer and I wasn't going to let my brethren down! Joni looked at me during "At Last" probably thinking, "She doesn't look like the rest of those jean-clad shutterbugs..." I gave Joni a "thumbs up" and she smiled. "This is for Wally, I thought. Wish he was here." I thought alot about Wally on Saturday, especially driving down Highway 1 as I had done so many times before on my way to see him, during his good days and bad. After I returned to my seat I sent up my prayers that I had taken some good shots. It was time to kick back and listen. Joni mentioned that she was having so much fun and that she felt like she was flying. I yelled out, "Amelia!" We were in row 7 and the sound was excellent. Mark and I kept giving each other looks of joy and disbelief. I've rambled on enough and you've already heard about the setlist. Two more funny happenings to share. As we left the venue these two gentlemen approached me and said, "Leslie?" I had never seen either of them before. "My name's Kelly, and I post to the JMDL." "Oh, hi Kelly." He introduced me to his friend (who's name I've forgotten - it was late...) I took a digital picture of the two of them and emailed it to Kelly (nightflight12@earthlink.net). How did he know my name and who I was? I then went into the ladies room to relieve my bladder (alot more sensitive since my surgery) and blow my nose (seasonal allergies). After I came out of the stall a woman in the bathroom said, "I heard you in the bathroom, how much are you selling that for?" I was blowing my nose and she thought I was snorting coke! Somehow, that seemed hilarious to me. Oh well. Thanks for listening. And Mark, you're a delightful guest and a wonderful friend. "Anyone will tell you just how hard it is to make and keep a friend...." Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 May 00 00:51:28 -0400 From: Christopher Kornmann Subject: Joni Tix available Hello... I have an extra ticket For Joni's performance in NYC at the Theater at MSG for Tuesday, May 23rd. It is section 202, Row X. Cost is $88. Please email me if you or anyone you know is interested. Thanks, Chris - --------------------- Christopher Kornmann Graphic Designer Spit & Image 828 Waring Avenue Bronx, NY 10467 718.798.2862 spitandimage@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:55:47 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Greek Theatre Review from Variety Mitchell Overcome By Orchestra Joni Mitchell (Greek Theatre; 6,162 seats; $88.50 top) By Steven Mirkin Monday May 15 9:41 PM ET HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Midway through her Greek Theatre performance with a 70-piece orchestra, Joni Mitchell remarked she was relieved that the show wasn't ``too much classicism´´ (sic) for her fans. The audience was more than willing to follow the mercurial singer into new musical territory and appeared to be familiar with Mitchell's new album, ``Both Sides Now´´ (which was performed in its entirety); where the two-hour show faltered was in the interaction between Mitchell and the orchestra.   The problem wasn't in Mitchell's (and arranger Larry Klein's) conception, but in the follow-through. From the overture, an over-long piece of program music so lush and chilly it could have served as the score for Dr. Zhivago, the orchestra sounded stiff and under-rehearsed. When Mitchell arrived on stage in a dramatic, caped, mauve outfit, it was obvious they were even less comfortable performing with a singer then they were with each other. And Mitchell's vocals on ``You´re My Thrill´´ and ``At Last´´ found her tentatively looking for some common ground. But early on, none was to be found: She gamely tried to swing against the orchestra´s stiff reading of ``Come Love´´; on less rhythmically grounded songs such as ``Answer Me, My Love,´´ no one even heard the question. Matters improved whenever pianist Herbie Hancock sat in. His buoyant playing acted as a bridge between Mitchell and the band, giving the singer an intimate familiar sound to work with while taking some of the focus off the orchestra, turning ``Sometimes I´m Happy´´ and the encore of Marvin Gaye´s ``Trouble Man´´ into the evening´s most musically satisfying selections. With her voice scarred by years of cigarette smoking (she lit up during the encore), Mitchell is more than up to the task on melancholy classics such as ``Don´t Talk to Strangers'' and ``Stormy Weather.'' Surprisingly, she was least at ease performing her own compositions, her vocals becoming mannered and stilted, as if she felt she had to oversell ``A Case of You´´ and ``Hejira.´´ Mitchell told the crowd that she is planning another album of standards. When she returns, she would be better served by a more intimate band with a small orchestra providing tonal color. Presented by TNA (USA) Inc./SFX, reviewed May 12, 2000 Band: Chuck Berghofer, Peter Erskine, Herbie Hancock, Mark Isham, Wallace Roney, Bob Shepherd, and orchestra, Vince Mendoza, conductor, Larry Klein arranger/musical director. Reuters/Variety ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:59:22 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: The Website Hi Everyone- It's me procrastinator.com here. Just got around to checking out the site and wow Leslie what great pics. And what a wild coat she had on, I love it! Lots of great reviews and Some of the reviews were hysterical from both shows. There are some cranky old kings and queens out there lurking around! Scary! Oh well I guess we all have our different views from all kind of grey and colourful rooms. There are a few reports with inaccurate song titles though (strange coming from some LONG TIME Joni fans) tee hee! Jim is doing a fantastic job getting this stuff up so fast. I have some more pics to send him and look forward to more from the rest of the shows (geaux Jim Lamadamadoo and Pearl, et al.) I've gotta go crash so I can spend tomorrow doing something besides Joni Mitchell stuff like PAZFEST (oh shit is right around the corner) and I guess that's more Joni stuff as well. I guess I am obsessed! Come on down to New Orleans we have a few vacancies left. We will miss our friends Marian, WallyK, Ashara and Sal , Brett , Julian, Rick Coyote, Harper Lou, Julie Webb, and Medric, all of whom had to cancel. We have had a few late fence sitters jump off this way though; welcome Pearl and Steve, Clark, and Julius from the bay area. We had an impromtu Trio going over at Kakki's featuring Clark, Julius, and myself. Freda kept complimenting them on their great vocals (funny she never said a word to me. guess my smoky, sultry voice isn't the high pitched bird like thing it use to be). Great party at Kakki's by the way! I have to collect my thoughts and do the other side of the concert report. Night all! Michael ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #189 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at ------- Siquomb, isn't she?