From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #179 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, May 10 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 179 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- L.A. Show and Parties ["Kakki" ] Re: Please Help ! (SJC) ["Alan Lorimer" ] Re: L.A. Show and Parties [LasaterJ@aol.com] Re: advice? [philipf@tinet.ie] Favorite Careers 2 ["James L. Leonard" ] Joni Imports: Bob [Matt Jones ] Re: Joni Imports? [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Urge for controversy ["Victor Johnson" ] Joni Imports: Bob ["Bob Muller (Perception)" ] Joni Tickets - Boston [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Joni on Leno Scratched??? ["Reuben Bell" ] Re: Joni Imports: Bob [AngelinoCoyote@aol.com] Rare Joni Is Free ["Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lamadoo\)" ] Re: Urge for controversy - kinda long ["P. Henry" ] How Do You Stop [Howard Motyl ] Re: Joni in FL tickets available! ["Debby Magill" ] Re: Urge for Going Controversy ["Kakki" ] favorite careers [Janene Otten ] Joni soundscan ["Brenda J. Walker" ] Re: Joni in FL tickets available! [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Favorite Careers ["Madell S" ] BSN covered ["Garret" ] One Ticket for the Boston Show [AsharaJM@aol.com] Concord show [MGVal@aol.com] Re: Concord show [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: BSN covered [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #242 [Evan + Vanessa Thomson ] Apologies... [Evan + Vanessa Thomson ] Re: Joni Imports: [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Joni Imports? [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Lahm an I [Michael Paz ] S.F.Cronicle Preview ["gene mock" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:03:06 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: L.A. Show and Parties I'm starting to hear from last minute surprise guests for our Joni concert party this Friday! Yay! If anyone else is planning to be at the L.A. show and wants to party with the group, please let me know soon so I can fill you in on details before I go into Joni zone ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:46:51 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: Please Help ! (SJC) Could I please get a few people to test my Creative Writing web site before *Thursday*. Just spend ten minutes or so playing with it and see what you think. Some of the backgrounds I've created for Joni's lyrics are simply stunning if you can set your display to "True Color" (Millions of Colors, 32 bit color depending on your machine) The addresses for the two sites are: http://users.bigpond.com/AlanLorimer/ For the site in Australia, and http://jonimitchell.homestead.com/files/ For the site in North America. Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 05:38:14 EDT From: LasaterJ@aol.com Subject: Re: L.A. Show and Parties JMDLers: I'm one of the last minute guests to which Kakki refers. I don't think I'll be able to make it New Orleans, so I look forward to a chance to get together with some familiar (Kakki, Paz, others?) and unfamiliar faces in LA. I booked my flight to Los Angeles after most of the good tickets for the May 12 show had already been taken, but a very kind JMDLer (Cecilia) has offered me a chance to buy one of her extras, so, I'm on my way.... Does anyone know any of the details of the setlist for the BSN tour? Will any of the musicians who played with Joni last time around (Larry, Brian Blade, etc.) be taking part in these shows? Will Joni be playing guitar and/or piano, or just torching it up in her evening gown? Delirious with excitement (and awake at 5:30 am) in North Carolina, - -John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:06:51 +0100 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: advice? Mark Domyancich wrote > My choice would be Court and Spark I agree, this would be a great place to start. There's not a single weak point on the record and it combines the earlier introspection with some beautiful playing by Tom Scott and the band. I've come back to Court and Spark a lot lately and it really has some great production details like the "didn't it feel good" refrain on Help Me, the multi guitar into to Peoples Parties, Tom Scott sounding like a passing car on Car On A Hill, Guerin marking off beats like passing telegraph poles on Just Like This Train etc. It was quite a startling thing at the time to hear Joni Mitchell doing rock and jazz for the first time. Joni and Tom Scott were a great team and for me Court and Spark and it's live sister Miles Of Aisles are superior to the uneven and over rated Hejira /Shadows and Light combo. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:39:53 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Favorite Careers 2 Thanks to everyone who's thusfar answered my query as to your favorite careers. Please keep those cards and letters comin' in, you folks who haven't shared yours yet. I'm planning to write a longer post about my list, on which I inadvertently left out Paul Simon. I should also have included Duke Ellington. "Haste makes waste." Including Joni this time, here's my list again: Eric Clapton, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Bob Dylan, Duke Ellington, Pat Metheny, Joni Mitchell, Van Morrison, Paul Simon, and Neil Young. "Boston Jim" NP: Pat Metheny Group, Imaginary Day, "Across The Sky" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 06:52:21 -0400 From: Matt Jones Subject: Joni Imports: Bob Hey, I am writing in response to Bob's offer to provide copies of Joni bootlegs. I'd love to get a copy, if I can. Please let me know how much! Also, I've emailed a guy who has soundboards and various other vintage Joni concerts in his collection and he offered to make me a copy of a show in Temple (??) Pennsylvania for 30 bucks. Is that worthwhile? I'm new to the whole bootleg side of things, but I agree that they should not be sold in stores since the artist does not get a part of the profit. Also, I just bought my first Carly Simon CD, the best of..., and was wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a second buy. thanks matt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 08:22:36 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni Imports? kerry wrote: > I was in a local record store yesterday and they had 3 Joni CD's I had never > seen before. They were labeled as imports and titled "Joni Mitchell - > unplugged and jammin,'" or something like that. It looked like they had a > lot of live stuff, including she and James Taylor on the BBC. They were > labeled vol.s 1,2 & 3. Does anyone know anything about them? Are they > worth getting? They were $25 each, so I'll have to take out a second > mortgage on the house!!!!! Imports is a polite euphemism for rip-off bootlegs. Someone OTHER than Joni is making a lot of money off these. Most are part of the Tape Trees in much higher audio quality. Save your money and trade with a list member. Jerry np: Ricker Lee Jone - Girl at Her Volcano ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:37:53 -0400 From: "Victor Johnson" Subject: Re: Urge for controversy An interesting note to add to this controversy: Everybody is probably familiar with the James Taylor song, "Shower the People." This was in fact not written by James Taylor. It was written by an unknown songwriter who sold all rights to the publisher for a flat sum. It then became the publisher's song to do with as they saw fit. So it is not that unlikely of an occurance that Joni could have done the same thing. Victor http://www.mindspring.com/~waytoblu/Tangled.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:43:23 -0400 From: "Bob Muller (Perception)" Subject: Joni Imports: Bob <> It's a wonderful show, Matt - it was a part of Tape Tree 6 or 7, it's her '74 show at Temple University in Ambler PA. I'll be glad to hook you and/or anyone up with it, as well as the others I have in my collection, for blanks & postage. The guy who's making you this $30 "deal" is using you for a Door-"Matt"! Just this last weekend I put together a list of the concerts, Interviews, Tributes, and misc. Joni on tape & CD that I have, I'll be glad to forward a copy to you. I'm currently making CD's for Jim Leonard, Bev Wolfe, Steve Polifka, and probably some more that show up in the mail today. Not for profit, purely for sharing the joy of this music - many other JMDLer's feel the same way and share the music too! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:02:42 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Joni Tickets - Boston Hi everyone. I really hate to do this, but based on my chemo schedule, I don't think I'll be able to go to Joni's Boston show. After two rounds of chemo now, I have to say there wasn't a single evening when I would have had the energy. I'll have to look and see just where the tickets are ( what row, etc...) If you think you might be interested, please let me know. They'll be my gift to whoever can use them. sigh... lots of love Anne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 06:07:10 PDT From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: Joni on Leno Scratched??? I, too, switched from Leno to Hanson on Letterman. It occured to me that like 'em or not, they are pretty talented. That was the second song that I have heard from their new album, and I am unashamed to say that I am going to stop on the way home from work and buy the CD. This makes me think of the recent thread on boy-bands...who have absolutely nothing on Hanson. Backstreet Boys, N-Sync, etc. are overproduced to the point of muzak-level musical quality, and are basically way over-glorifed barbershop quartets. IMHO, of course. :) I admit that I flipped the channel after the first chorus of whoever it was on Leno, but it was a touch decision. My GAWD he was cute! Reuben "Take that stuff off, Henry, there's a dear. You can't go to dinner dressed like that. You know nylon brings you out in a rash!" Bette Davis "The Anniversary" "Sometimes you have to be a little Dallas." Cara Reedy >From: Vince Lavieri >If Joni doesn't show up on Leno then we are free to watch Hanson on Dave >Letterman tonight!!!!! :-) (the Rev) Vince (who would rather see Joni, but would also rather watch >24 hours of Hanson rather than one hour of Leno) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:14:00 EDT From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Imports: Bob In a message dated 5/9/00 3:59:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, musicmat@earthlink.net writes: << Also, I just bought my first Carly Simon CD, the best of..., and was wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a second buy. Coyote Suggests: My all-time favorites are Hotcakes and Another Passenger (At time When My Head is amazing). I hopped off the Carly ship after the latter, but may be listening to some new tapes in my bedroom, thanks to Colin. No regrets, Coyote Casa Alegre Hollywood, California I'll be dancin' on a pony keg. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:21:36 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lamadoo\)" Subject: Rare Joni Is Free Kerry, If you have a cassette deck, you have available, free, more than a dozen free performances and interviews free from her coffeehouse days all the way through the TNT Tribute. Did I mention that it's free? :) All you have to do is send a nice note, blank tapes, and return postage. It's run by a labor of love. I think of it as a ministry. (!) Write to me for details. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:39:59 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu \(Lamadoo\)" Subject: Free Joni On Tape To learn about getting free Joni Appearances on Tape, go to: http://216.247.66.89/trading/index.cfm You'll find info on the tape trees. These are collections of joni interviews and performances. Then there are the Video Trees of tv appearances, also available free. If anyone has interesting Joni material for the JMDL community, let's talk! I'm especially looking for a complete PAL version of the BBC concert video with Joni and James in 1970, and the demos of the Mingus session that included the _original_ band. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 08:30:59 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: Urge for controversy - kinda long les, my apologies for reponding SO late on this... my life has gotten so I have to make an appointment with myself, once a week if all goes well, believe it or not, to sit down and read through the digests. the posts from catgirl's list get my attention a lot quicker because I can't afford to leave 300K emails in my online inbox because it's so full, if I don't get them deleted right away my incoming mail will start getting blocked. I remember when you asked me about this before and, while I wasn't a listmember at the time, I can imagine the outcry at such a claim... and in fact, your post helps me to understand some of the reactions to me when I joined the list. (and my 'outlandish claims', which, of course I still stand by as being completely true) being so late on this and not having seen any other responses, I'm sure this has been well mulled already, but here's my take on it nonetheless: not a chance, bro! musically, while I have to agree that it is different in that it was (yes, I admit I was dead wrong on this *major blush* which I now realize thanks to my new guitar. (my 'version' to be posted soon gang)) written in standard tuning, in my mind it is still very much, in terms of chord phrasing as well as 'melodic flow' a *signature* Joni Mitchell song! UFG is really very similar to TCG IMHO, in fact, I could almost picture the two songs being intermixed in sort of a call and response... 'yesterday a child came out to wander... I awoke today to find the frost perched on the town...' ah, but then, I do have strange musical ideas... ;o) financially, I'd have to ask, where, fer pete's sake', would she get the money?! take a good look at the 'mod city living' article in your own database. living in an inner-city, fix-em-up, $70/mo, 5th floor apartment when both were working doesn't exactly inmply that the bucks were rolling in... (though I'm not sure if she wrote it before or after she met Chuck and came to the states) I can tell you that playing coffeehouses in those days wasn't exactly lucrative, witness the ad I posted where the cover charge was $1.25 a head (Dec.'66) to see Joni in a room that could hold about 60-75, SRO. http://homepages.go.com/~badwolff/albums/album1/pic4.html it's been a long time and brian moss would know better than I but I think we paid about $50/night to Joni on some of her gigs and maybe it went up as high as $100. even the Raven, which was the folk classiest venue in those days, only paid about $150+ a % of refreshments... I really don't see Joni as having those kind of bucks to go out and 'buy a song' from someone. last but not least, as I have said numerous times in the past, and I *know* bri and cul would recall this also, Joni always, everytime she played it onstage, was drawing special attention to UFG as being her personal favorite song *that she ever wrote*! I remember the night she came in all excited like a little girl, literally jumping up and down, and came running over to me to present me with a copy of a 45rpm single by George Hamilton IV doing Urge. I think this was the first vinyl for national distribution of a song of hers... on capitol or rca maybe... I know it had a black label. (I think at this point Tom Rush was still circulating his recordings in the local Boston area and to radio stations in some areas, (philly for example) but not yet as a 'release') Joni was really proud that her song had been recorded and just beamed... I think this was the first time she ever hugged me. :o) so, bottom line, I just don't see it... I don't know if this woman's dad was 'full of crap' or maybe just exagerating a little to impress his little girl, but, based on my experience, I can't come to any other conclusion than that Joni Mitchell wrote Urge For Going, and very, very well indeed as a matter of fact! pat NP: take a wild guess... ;o) les wrote: Joniphiles - Long time listers may remember the brief appearance a few years ago of a woman who delurked and innocently proclaimed that "her father wrote the song 'Urge For Going' and sold it to Joni". Needless to say, she was met with considerable derision and never posted again. I've often thought about her claim and wondered. Urge for Going has always seemed to me to be an "odd" Joni song. The chord structure and the melodic flow seem to be unlike anything else she was doing at the time. Certainly, it wasn't uncommon to "lift" melodies from other sources - I'm probably wrong, but I don't think Dylan wrote an original melody until 1964. On the other hand, why would Joni be "purchasing" a song at a time when her creativity was overflowing? The wealth of as-yet-unreleased songs she wrote during that period certainly sheds huge doubt on this claim. Could be that Joni just fell in love with the song and "had to have it". Or, could be that this woman's father is full of crap and the song is indeed 100% Joni's. Thoughts anyone? Pat... Cul... you were both there during that time, no? Any insight? Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:33:33 EDT From: Treehuggergirl25@aol.com Subject: Re: Thanks to all of you Beautiful People you know, this is the first mailing list that i've ever been on in my life that i actually enjoy. i like it a lot. it's not a million emails insulting each other and saying stupid things......thank you all for filling up my inbox! - -angela ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 17:50:57 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Thanks to all of you Beautiful People Angela, dear, we are just going thru a dry patch right now. bw colin Treehuggergirl25@aol.com wrote: > > you know, this is the first mailing list that i've ever been on in my life > that i actually enjoy. i like it a lot. it's not a million emails insulting > each other and saying stupid things......thank you all for filling up my > inbox! > -angela ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:44:26 -0700 From: "James L. Leonard" Subject: Favorite Careers (Rationale) Wow. Thanks again to everybody who's answered my "Favorite Careers" question, and, please, those of you who haven't as yet (and you know who you are), please do so. Already, there are many artists I'm planning to re-discover or seek out for the first time. My Top 10 list (for the last time, and it now includes Joni, even though I'd originally asked for artists *other* than Joni) is as follows: Eric Clapton, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Bob Dylan, Duke Ellington, Pat Metheny, Joni Mitchell, Van Morrison, Paul Simon, and Neil Young. What distinguishes these particular "careers," for me, in addition to the fact that I've loved the music of these artists, is that each career has been (or was) a "journey." More than any other artists whose music I've loved in my 46 years (and there have been *very, very many*), it's been these individuals who most dramatically continued to evolve, and whose albums from one to the next took another step forward (in most instances). In the cases of those artists still active, I look forward to their next projects never knowing exactly what to expect...like I'm turning the page to begin the next chapter in a new novel by a favorite writer. (I hope I'm making sense, or at least getting my gist across). I agonized over placing The Beatles on this list, and Marcel has made a wonderful, eloquent case for their inclusion. In so many ways, they exemplified the growth as artists that I'm particualrly enamored with, and which I am trying to describe. It's likely that it was The Beatles, in fact, who provided me with the very example by which I judge *other* important careers. Every one of their albums grew from and expanded on the previous one. In the final analysis (and, in retrospect, I was probably wrong not to include them), I judged their "importance" to have been immeasurable, but their career to have been sadly short-lived. Yes, they did in fact make it possible for so *very* many of the artists we love to find their own voices and inspirations, and their songwriting and production was incomparable, but it all ended too soon, in 1970. Each made fantastic solo albums after the breakup, to be sure, but none of the individual members really continued to move ahead to the degree that Joni did after Blue, or Miles did after 'Round About Midnight, or Dylan did after The Times They Are A-Changin', or Coltrane did after leaving Miles, or Clapton did after leaving John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, or Van Morrison did after the breakup of Them, or Duke Ellington did after his residency at The Cotton Club, or Paul Simon did after Bridge Over Troubled Water, or Pat Metheny did after Bright Size Life with Jaco, or Neil Young did after Harvest. My list of favorite "artists" (as opposed to "careers") would go on for hours. Still, when I purchase new albums by the vast majority of my favorites, I'm just not as curious as to what they'll be up to on *this* one. Joni's BSN, on the other hand, was yet another surprise, and yet another example of her continued artistic growth. I guess I originally posed this question because, not only was I curious about everyone's favorite artists, I was also curious if the type of evolution Joni has exhibited would be one of the significant factors influencing others' decisions as to their "favorite careers." I wanted to see if it was a common thread. Please keep 'em comin', with no regard whatsoever to tailoring your response to this criteria. I've loved reading all the lists, and I look forward to many more. Thanks. :-) "Boston Jim" NP: Joni, Second Fret Sets, Vol. 1, "Winter Lady" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 13:16:46 -0500 From: Howard Motyl Subject: How Do You Stop This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------C37AA1BB6A1C9051647449A9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this has been discussed before, forgive me. I was reminded yesterday when looking at the TI credits that How Do You Stop was not written by JM. Is there a story about this choice? Is this the same Dan Hartman who wrote that wonderful disco song Instant Replay? Also, it continues to astound me how great, really great--I mean, one of the all-time great, top five songs--the song Turbulent Indigo. It's totally Joni but not overdone Joni (sometimes she overdoes herself, especially in the background vocals). The music in this is superb; a wonderful beat--great lyrics, her voice is amazing, and even Wayne Shorter's playing is perfect for this song. (Someone here said he had problems with Shorter during the tribute--he was kind of just spurting out notes here and there and getting too much camera time--and I agree with him wholeheartedly.) Somehow, here in TI, the short bursts work beautifully, almost like the short, abrupt brushstrokes of Van Gogh. 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It's been awhile since I've written ... but I've been following the flow :~) Anyway, I have a pair of 5th Row seats for Joni in West Palm Beach, FL on 5/17 (a week from tomorrow)! I am NOT going to be able to use these tickets and am putting them up for sale for cost. I can't believe I can't go and I just don't want to be out that money, too. They are GREAT seats and I'm sure that someone would love to use them. Please email me at debbyis@prodigy.net if you are interested in buying these awesome seats. I look forward to hearing from you :~) Sadly passing the torch, Debby in Mad Beach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 12:48:15 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Urge for Going Controversy Victor wrote: >Everybody is probably familiar with the James Taylor song, "Shower the People." This was in fact not >written by James Taylor. It was written by an unknown songwriter who sold all rights to the publisher >for a flat sum. It then became the publisher's song to do with as they saw fit. So it is not that unlikely >of an occurance that Joni could have done the same thing. This was also one of my points in the original debate. I've known a few songwriters personally who sold songs outright back in the 60s-early 70s. Can't name names but one sold a classic top hit for a famous R&B artist that still gets a lot of airplay. He received $30,000 for it and gave up all rights to future royalties. He was a young unknown at the time and couldn't help but be tempted to sell his song for that kind of money to a famous artist. In the post that was forwarded to the list about UFG, the woman related that her father (who she said was a young unknown passing through the coffee houses at the time) sold the song to Joni for one dollar ($1.00) and as I recall, it was just the rough bones of what the song eventually evolved into by Joni. The woman also said her father had no ill feelings about it whatsoever. I'm not saying I believe it's true, but it is plausible. And it doesn't change my opinion or regard of Joni if she did do it. Kakki NP: Joni - Nothing Can Be Done ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:09:56 -0400 From: Janene Otten Subject: favorite careers Hi, everyone. I wanted to chime in on Jim's question about careers If you haven't heard a band called The Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies, please check out their CD's, first is self-titled, second is called Magnolia & third is called Big Wheel. They are one of my favorite bands of all time and I love them. They are from Nashville, TN and sound like a cross between Elvis Presley, Otis Redding, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Little Feat, maybe a little Allmans too. I know that the description is lacking but the music & spirit of this band is indescribable. It's even better if you can see them live. When they're live, they thrive. Regard this as my #1 plug! I also love R.E.M. Lyrically, Michael Stipe is factual, historical, witty, sensual and smart. The music of Peter Buck & Mike Mills (Bill Berry, pre-departure, too) is sonically simple yet simultaneously lush and beautiful. I can never get enough R.E.M. The Beatles have always been my choice for best band ever for reasons I think are entirely personal. I mean, almost everyone I know likes the Beatles but when I ask someone why, they have a difficult time putting it into perspective. They are (were) incredible songwriters. My final favorite has to be Peter Gabriel. Peter breaks free from the norm with his innovative music and is a wonderful human as well. What a man! That's all for now except to say that there's no one like Queen Joan. Back the the lurker's lair... Peace, Janene np: Lou Reed - Ecstacy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 15:32:02 -0700 From: "Brenda J. Walker" Subject: Joni soundscan Report for last week is available; email me if you'd like a copy. Sorry for the delay! New numbers will be out tomorrow. Last week BSN sales fell from 20,936 to 13,087 and chart position slipped from 90 to 103. Total catalog sales fell from 40,112 to 22,498. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:47:50 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in FL tickets available! In a message dated 5/9/00 2:52:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, debbyis@Prodigy.net writes: << Hey everyone! It's been awhile since I've written ... but I've been following the flow :~) Anyway, I have a pair of 5th Row seats for Joni in West Palm Beach, FL on 5/17 (a week from tomorrow)! I am NOT going to be able to use these tickets and am putting them up for sale for cost. I can't believe I can't go and I just don't want to be out that money, too. They are GREAT seats and I'm sure that someone would love to use them. >> Similarly, I have decided to send my pair of tickets to the West Palm Beach show to me new stepmother for Mother's Day. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 22:51:42 GMT From: "Madell S" Subject: Favorite Careers Hi- Here's a list of some of the artists whose careers I've been following for a few years. Mary Chapin Carpenter-I've been listening to her since I was 10 and she's been my favorite singer since then. I never really listened to music until I began listening to her. My faves are "Jubilee" "John Doe #24" and "Why Walk When You Can Fly". Shawn Colvin-Discovered her music through MCC. Love especially "If I Were Brave" and "Monopoly". Indigo Girls-Love all of their music. They write such inspring lyrics. "Virginia Woolf" and "Closer to Fine" are some of my faves. Natalie Merchant-Enjoyed her from the 10,000 Maniacs days. Didn't really think much of her until "Wonder" came out and I became a fan then. Other artists that I've recently discovered: Dar Williams, Lucy Kaplansky, Cheryl Wheeler, Kate Rusby, Bob Dylan, Catie Curtis, Susan Werner, Solas and of course Joni Mitchell. :-) - -Madeline NP:John Coltrane "Lush Life"--One of my teachers mentioned this song earlier in the year and I LOVE it! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:18:21 +0100 From: "Garret" Subject: BSN covered I have a vague memory of hearing Vonda Shepard singing Both Sides Now in an episode of Ally McBeal. I know i wasn't imagining it! the piece played in the episode did sound quite promising. i wonder if anyone else heard (tell me i wasn't dreaming!!), and more importantly....if it was in the show, there must be a recorded version of it somewhere. Also, i remember reading on the list that Courtney Love and Hole covered teh same song on Pretty on the Inside. i have this album years. I was wondering if Bob had gotten a copy of this song and decided not to put it on to the covers collection or if he never got his hands on a copy (if not, let me know....). to be honest, i wouldn't say that they cover the song though, no, I'd say that they vandalise it. (and i am a Hole fan) GARRET NP- Tori Amos- Cornflake Girl Live ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 19:23:09 EDT From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: One Ticket for the Boston Show I have one extra ticket for the Boston show, May 28th. It's Section 2, (Center) Row 12. Please e-mail me privately if you are interested. Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:56:46 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Concord show Through the very, very, very gracious offer of Mr. Rich Neuwith, I'm going to the May 13th show in the Bay Area. Granted, it was a tough toss up. Saturday is also the first full day of the UCD Whole Earth Festival, (Mr. Date; please note my penchant for messing around with words) and I equivocated for a full 5 or 6 seconds over Joni or tie dye....Joni or tie dye. Having made my choice, (Joni, natch), I'm now wondering what I may have missed vis a vis Bay Area pre-show gathering announcements. I know we have the Mixons, Mark, Rich, Darice and now me! Fill me in please! MG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:07:18 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Concord show In a message dated 5/9/00 8:59:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MGVal@aol.com writes: << Having made my choice, (Joni, natch), I'm now wondering what I may have missed vis a vis Bay Area pre-show gathering announcements. I know we have the Mixons, Mark, Rich, Darice and now me! Fill me in please! MG >> You all should meet for drinks and dinner at the Benihana's in Concord. There are only a few ogther restaurants worthwhile, and I didn't get the feeling you folks were Marie Callendar's types. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:23:14 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: BSN covered In a message dated 5/9/00 5:09:33 PM US Central Standard Time, sprout@eircom.net writes: << I was wondering if Bob had gotten a copy of this song and decided not to put it on to the covers collection or if he never got his hands on a copy (if not, let me know....). >> I've heard OF it, Garrett, but never "ACTUALLY" heard it! ;-) If you have it and want to share, let me know! You'll get a free copy of the disc it shows up on, from all accounts it may be yet another slice of cheese - - whatever would Doris Day think of sharing CD space with Hole! LOL! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:32:32 +1000 From: Evan + Vanessa Thomson Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #242 > Thanks Jimmy, > I would love to pick up all the 'down under' listers and take them on a > 'magical mystery' cruise to New Orleans... > Please, please swing through Victoria and pick me up! Mind you, I'm probably too pregnant to fly now. You can't catch a plane with 10 weeks to go I guess... :-( > > Ange > Sydney > > Vanessa in cloudy Melbourne P.S. I hope you feel better... if it's any consolation, at least you're not in Mooroolbark, home of the Great Grey Moccasin and Giant Holiday Smokes! These are the temples at which all Mooroolbarkians worship... please save me! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:51:38 +1000 From: Evan + Vanessa Thomson Subject: Apologies... Please accept my apologies for forgetting the NJC tag on my last post! Vanessa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:23:18 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Imports: In a message dated 5/9/2000 6:59:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, musicmat@earthlink.net writes: << Also, I've emailed a guy who has soundboards and various other vintage Joni concerts in his collection and he offered to make me a copy of a show in Temple (??) Pennsylvania for 30 bucks. Is that worthwhile? I'm new to the whole bootleg side of things, but I agree that they should not be sold in stores since the artist does not get a part of the profit. >> I got the temple show too. I got it for FREE from the tape trees! You should never have to spend alot of money on Joni music unless you are either buying a CD of one of her records or must get a new release. One day (paws crossed) she might come out with a rare CD collection but until then there are the tape trees! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:25:07 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Imports? In a message dated 5/9/2000 8:24:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, notaro@bayflash.stpt.usf.edu writes: << Imports is a polite euphemism for rip-off bootlegs. Someone OTHER than Joni is making a lot of money off these. Most are part of the Tape Trees in much higher audio quality. Save your money and trade with a list member. Jerry >> That is great advice. There are some very friendly listers here that would be more then happy to make you some copies of CD's or tapes from shows. I have been very lucky in that department. Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 23:51:13 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Lahm an I Hello All- I am still not aware of what's going on in the world or on the list, but wanted to drop a line a gloat a little about the wonderful time I am having getting to know David Lahm and his wonderful piano playing. We had a chance tonight to play quite a few songs together and it was wonderful for me. I normally play these songs by myself and am not use to having a great player improvising along with me. I kept stumbling because I was having so much funb just listening. David has to leave tomorrow night but it has been a great time having him here at the house. It has been a great Joni month. I also fogot to write in and tell you how wonderful Diane Krall was (even though she did not play A Case of You). I asked Tony, her manager, if she had been doing it, and he said she has done it at every show since the Tribute. When she went back up for the encore I was at the bottom of the short stairs to the stage a hollered for her to do it. She turned back and looked at me and smiled a sort of a sheepish grin. I'm not sure why. She seemed to be somewhat uncomfortable in the Jazz Tent setting, although the crowd loved her. Laurence Fishburne was seated on the stairs two feet from me. We exchanged a couple of smiles and nods, but I chose not to speak to him to try and be respectful to him and to the music. I did make a comment to my friend when I went to sit down (after standing up all day I was beat) I commented that I wondered if my ass still worked and he burst out laughing and so did I. I also got to record Ani DiFranco's set and totally enjoyed her and her crew. It was the best sound I heard ever at the Jazz Fest. Very talented engineers. I wish I could write more but I am exhausted and have to get up early so I can play a little more with Lahm. Night all. Peace Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:06:03 -0700 From: "gene mock" Subject: S.F.Cronicle Preview MUSIC: Folkie-Cum-Chanteuse Court or Spark? When did we become our parents? And when did our Lady of the Canyon become Shirley Horn? Those are two questions that longtime baby boom fans of Joni Mitchell will be asking themselves as they listen to Both Sides Now, the 20th album -- and most dramatic departure -- of Mitchell's 32-year recording career. Mitchell, the beloved Canadian-born pioneer of confessional contemporary folk music, takes a radical turn to swathe herself in the kind of silky brass and gossamer violins that romanced a generation of Depression-era fans. -- Derk Richardson May 13: Joni Mitchell and the Both Sides Now Orchestra; Chronicle Pavilion, 2000 Kirker Pass Rd., Concord; 8 pm; $27.75-$77.75; (925)676-8742. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #179 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?