From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #136 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, April 12 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 136 The 'Official' Joni Mitchell Homepage, created by Wally Breese, can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com. It contains the latest news, a detailed bio, Original Interviews, essays, lyrics and much much more. --- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. --- Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund" with all donations going directly towards the upkeep of the website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds. it is now up to US to help Jim continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA. 01983 USA ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- BSN .... MAGIC ["Takats, Angela" ] Re: joni's clothes (longish--but jc, I think) [Gellerray@aol.com] Re: More on Joni and JMDL [FMYFL@aol.com] [none] ["Cole, Robb (BSMG)" ] Re: Curad Bandages [Catherine McKay ] Re: More on Joni and JMDL [Randy Remote ] david and the two grey rooms [pat holden ] Re: sunset pig - jlc [Dflahm@aol.com] first in line [Kate ] turbulent indigo [pat holden ] Re: Joni & Bjork [GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com] Joni & Bjork/Liz Fraser [GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com] Re: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance [Heather ] Re: Need tickets for the CT show? [Heather ] Spoiler warning!!! [Richard Rice ] Re: turbulent indigo [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: turbulent indigo [waytoblu@mindspring.com] free Joni liquid audio [Randy Remote ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:33:18 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: BSN .... MAGIC YAY!!! Despite being away from all the intense joni-action in the US...I managed to grab a copy of her new album yesterday....I know i'm late on this whole discussion...but just wanted to add that this aussie lister found the album just MAGICAL....she's never sounded so beautiful, so at peace with life and love and herself....this is a really special album Wish I could see all the TV appearances that she seems to be making in the US...but the album is bringing me more than enough 'joni pleasure'.....if only I could afford to fly to the US to see her perform live...! take care listers Ange Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:45:39 EDT From: Gellerray@aol.com Subject: Re: joni's clothes (longish--but jc, I think) dear catherine, I have no time--o jesus that is always my cry in posts, but, like I always say too, just wait til i'm out of school!--anyway, thanks for all the miyake information. It reminds me of a conversation I had at a bar called Barracuda after the tribute the other night. I had taken a friend to the tribute, a guy who is just a few years younger than joni (I am 38) but who had never seen her perform before--though he is passionate about that era's music and worships, among many faves, Dylan and Lauara Nyro...anyway, he is quite the rover and insisted on going to barracuda after the show ( I mean not just for a drink) and I was game but not in the mood to cruise (long story---never was very good at it anyway). Well, in any case, we were soon being circled at our table by a young, rather attractive guy who found a way to start up a conversation and, after a few moments, sat down. Turned out he's a San Francisco-based clothinig desinger, has worked in Paris, sounds to be doing well, and seems to know his stuff too. If my tone is tentative that's because a). I had just met him and b). frankly, he was a bit soused! But eventually--ha, eventually!-- talk turned to joni and the tribute and though he wasn't very familiar with her his natural intelligence had him not so annoying about that--he said, "I wouldn't recognize her if I saw a picture but I know the name...isn't she mostly a songwriter?..." (hey, it could have been worse--he could have said "isn't she a folksinger?" !!!!). Anyway, my friend was pretty busy trying to hit on this guy (he had an objective!) whereas I would drift in and out of their conversation, but indeed I was having fun when I did drift in...and he and I had a pretty natural ease when talking...finally I said, during a lull, "She was wearing Issey Miyake tonight." And he was impressed enough by that. Then I turned to my friend (who knows nothing from designers) and I said "Issey Miyake is Joni's favorite--she loves the Japanese particarly for clothing design--but she loves Issey the best because, she says, he's the most artistic." ( I know, I know--i realize right now in fact that what she said was that he was "the artist"). I then said something like, "There's a triumvirate of great Japanese post-modernist designers, Rei Kawakabi, Issey Miyake and Yohji Yamamoto, and Issey is the most artistic." To which our new friend, in his cups but no dummy, and having clearly not misplced his opinions said, "No. No. Rei's the most artistic, Yohji is the most classical but Issey, Issey, he is the most adventurous. He's the innovator." And I thought--and I said--perfect, hallelujah, and amen. It figures. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:06:53 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: More on Joni and JMDL Kakki writes: << I've noticed that some other artist discussion lists have distinct nicknames, like the CSN "Lee Shore" and the Neil Young "Rusties". Maybe we should come up with something more memorable that she can refer to, like the "Turbulent Indigos" or something ;-) > We're more like the "Impossible Dreamers" > I don't think Evian will be able to attend. He'll be in the middle of writing another term paper. I'll have to go in his place :-) Jimmy, dodging all the fires not too far from my house ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:17:06 -0400 From: "Cole, Robb (BSMG)" Subject: [none] How can I get a copy of Joni on Rosie this week and David Letterman last week? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:40:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Curad Bandages - --- mann@chicagonet.net wrote: > Lori asked: > But does any company > manufacture bandages for people of color? Does > anyone > know? > > YES.......either Curad or Band-Aid or both do make > these. When I worked (now i'm a stay-at-home > mom.... > altho I try not to stay-at-home!!) my partner > in crime was a woman of color. I had a stash of > bandages in my drawer..........and when she needed > one she'd always complain about them not matching > her skin. One day I actually found a box of > bandages that matched her skin and put one on my > finger and kept waving my hands at her until she > noticed!! It was the first time she saw these > either. > You won't find these in the stores if you live in an > all-caucasion > neighborhood tho. I hate to tell you this, but even so-called "skin"-coloured bandages don't match anyone's skin that I know, never mind what colour you are. That being the case, I suggest that, rather than trying to make them blend in so no one knows you cut yourself, hide it in plain sight by choosing the most outrageous coloured ones you can (although they ARE more expensive. They've got cartoon characters and so on on them.) - -Oh, did you cut yourself? - -Yes, by golly, I did! So glad you noticed! How do you like my Scooby-Doo bandage? - -Awesome -where'dya get it? and so on... On reading the first post about this (sorry but I forget who started this one!), I thought these bandages were actually able to melt into your skin, or do some kind of osmosis or chameleon thing so they actually became one with your skin - and I admit, that kind of creeped me out! ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:19:14 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: More on Joni and JMDL FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > > Kakki writes: > > << I've noticed that some > other artist discussion lists have distinct nicknames, like the CSN "Lee > Shore" and the Neil Young "Rusties". Maybe we should come up with something > more memorable that she can refer to, like the "Turbulent Indigos" or > something ;-) > > > We're more like the "Impossible Dreamers" > Maybe the "Open Tuners" ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:29:10 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: david and the two grey rooms Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:12:01 EDT From: Dmascall@aol.com I've just caught onto the tail end of this thread, and the bit about the "two grey rooms" To me, and before reading the posts to see there are other interpretations around, the song has a wistfulness and longing to it, a feeling not of regret but of revisiting the time when you 're so in love you just want to watch your partner's every move and revel in what they do and the way they move. It still evokes that feeling in me. Dear David, I agree with your comment about the feeling in "two grey rooms" being more about "longing". Guess Ive felt such a longing and could relate from that view point. This is what I love about Joni and her lyrics, how she makes us think, analyse and especially feel. Joni even said on the Rosie show yesterday that her own songs are filled with so many different emotions and that it was so important to her to get those feelings out rather than focusing on her technical singing if that makes sense. Hope I interpreted that correctly. I loved hearing that for I have so often felt a lot of different things on so many levels, while listening to her lyrics. Depending on what is going on in my life at the time, it seems like her songs might suddenly speak to my own experience. I love that. mags* - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:02:19 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: sunset pig - jlc Catherine, you wouldn't be pulling our collective leg about that Greek myth, would you? Doesn't the song begin "sittin' in a park in Paris, France...?" And isn't it from the same album where she was going to say goodbye to Cary, go to Paris, rent a piano and put flowers in her room? I think the ouzo was cheaper than you want us to give it credit for. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:51:15 -0600 From: Kate Subject: first in line >I only have one request - that those attending ensure that native son Evian >is first in line to meet her. If he can't make it through the crush, I >want >a posse to drag him to the front of the line and I want photos! ;-D >Kakki Sorry Kakki ; native daughters first! I will trample him with my bare feet! :-) Kate of the North ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:38:26 -0500 From: pat holden Subject: turbulent indigo Just listening to TI and thinking....when it was first released, I heard that included in the package was a little plastic vangogh ear included...is this true? Does anyone know? Did anyone get one? Ive got the cardboard packaging that came out before the plastic version, but alas, no ear. mags who has nothing better to do at this moment than contemplate vangogh's ear. *snicker* - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _~O / /\_, ___/\ /_ - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:09:19 EDT From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni & Bjork Does anyone on this list have the duet of Joni & Bjork "What is this thing called love" that she talked about with Rosie Monday? This would be an ultra cool song for the tree! HUH? I can't even imagine what this would sound like. Makes me want to imagine Joni doing a duet with my second favorite singer in the world, Elizabeth Fraser (Former "Cocteau Twins" singer presently working on solo album) Now that would be interesting to say the least! Anyone on this list ever heard of The Cocteau Twins? I'm sure all my fellow gayboys on here have! Liz Fraser is also considered a gay diva of sorts, amongst the alternative fans. Dreaming of Joni, Guru DJ Smithmix ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:20:35 EDT From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: Joni & Bjork/Liz Fraser Does anyone on this list have the duet of Joni & Bjork "What is this thing called love" that she talked about with Rosie Monday? This would be an ultra cool song for the tree! HUH? I can't even imagine what this would sound like. Makes me want to imagine Joni doing a duet with my second favorite singer in the world, Elizabeth Fraser (Former "Cocteau Twins" singer, presently working on solo album) Now that would be interesting to say the least! Anyone on this list ever heard of The Cocteau Twins? I'm sure all my fellow gayboys on here have! Liz Fraser is also considered a gay diva of sorts, amongst the alternative fans. If you are adventurous pick up Victorialand or Four Calendar cafe by the Cocteau Twins! You will never hear a more ethereal, gorgeous, and original voice like this! And the music is incredible. Like I said for the open minded only! My Dad likes them once I played him Four calendar cafe. OK, IM rambling again! Dreaming of Joni, Guru DJ Smithmix ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:42:26 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance YES! I wish she would sing more standards! Rent 'Living Out Loud' if you want to hear her sing some great tunes. Heather At 12:08 PM 3/27/00 -0500, GREYC1@aol.com wrote: >Is it just me or does anyone else think that Queen Latifah has an amazing >voice for >singing the "standards"? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:48:46 -0400 From: Heather Subject: Re: Need tickets for the CT show? Hi everyone! I'm back among the cyber living! My husband trashed our computer with some software he bought home from work (the jury was lenient with him ;-) We are all back to normal :-) My offer to pick up tickets at the box office for the CT show is still on. Show date is May 27th. I'm REALLY excited about my second row, dead center seats!!!! Heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:06:50 -0500 From: Richard Rice Subject: Spoiler warning!!! Gdave, TALK ABOUT SPOILER WARNINGS! GDAVE, THE NEXT TIME YOU WRITE SOMETHING THIS FUNNY (!!!) THERE SHOULD BE A SPOILER WARNING PRECEEDING IT!!! I NEARLY KILLED MYSELF LAUGHING SOOOO HARD! ALL I COULD DO WAS FIGHT BACK THE TEARS OF LAUGHTER! GOD. I HAVE NOT HAD SUCH A GOOD LONG LAUGH IN YEARS. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL BIT OF HUMOR! THIS IS ONE JONI MUST SEE!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:09:37 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: turbulent indigo In a message dated 4/11/2000 8:38:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pholden@iprimus.ca writes: << Just listening to TI and thinking....when it was first released, I heard that included in the package was a little plastic vangogh ear included...is this true? Does anyone know? Did anyone get one? Ive got the cardboard packaging that came out before the plastic version, but alas, no ear. >> It is not plastic but a little silver (ok metal) charm. I even bought THREE of those CD's in hopes of an ear to no avail. I finally got one from a friend. Recently one sold on EBAY for over $28.00. Catgirl (finally getting her ear-whoo-hoo!!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:33:48 -0400 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: Re: turbulent indigo >Just listening to TI and thinking....when it was first >released, I heard that included in the package was a >little plastic vangogh ear included...is this true? >Does anyone know? Did anyone get one? Ive got the >cardboard packaging that came out before the plastic >version, but alas, no ear. I believe the ear was included in a limited number of promotional copies but was not included in any for sale. Victor http://www.mindspring.com/~waytoblu/Tangled.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:27:20 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: free Joni liquid audio The song "Both Sides Now" from the new album is available as a free download for those with the liquid audio player. Go to this address, you will get a 30sec sample, click the "free download" button on the right side of the player. The sound quality is excellent-better than MP3. http://liquidaudio1.m0.net/m/s.asp?H1131019423X642502 If you don't have the liquid audio player it's free from http://www.liquidaudio.com/ it will play MP3's, wavs and more, and there are often freebees if you get on their emailing list. They are hoping you will like what you hear and pay to download more or buy the CD. RR ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #136 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?