From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #116 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, March 30 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 116 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Both Sides Now, the song, Redux [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Boston Info! ["Barnicle, Kathryn" ] E-Center seats [Dave Gertler ] Re: E-Center seats [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Mendel update [Phyliss Ward ] Re: joni/madonna ["Matthew Hall" ] Re: Tribute Tickets! [dsk ] Re: Got my tickets for E-Center [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] Ticket info. [Richard Rice ] Re: Covers Project [SMEBD@aol.com] BSN Review from SonicNet [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Joni on Ebay [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: Joni in Boston [RickieLee1@aol.com] Joni L.A. Show Parties ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni-inspired movies (c/o "Magnolia") (SJC) ["Jamie Zubairi" ] Re: BSN Review from SonicNet [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: BSN Review from SonicNet [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: BSN Review from SonicNet ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: BSN Review from SonicNet [Randy Remote ] 2 items [mr_lovesaint@webtv.net] Anne Sandstrom surgery [Bounced Message ] Tickets to Joni's CT concert [Bounced Message ] Re: Covers Project ["Kakki" ] BSN debuts on Billboard's album chart [Jason Long ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 07:59:28 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Both Sides Now, the song, Redux <> Only about a bazillion, probably...I think the point is that any true artist will attempt to reinvent and reclaim the songs they've done to death to keep them significant. Joni's done it over and over, listen to "For Free" from her '83 tour, or "Song for Sharon" from the same tour, "Black Crow" from the '98 shows, BYT from the same shows... Dylan obviously turns his songs inside out, so much so that when you combine it with his mushmouth vocals it's a feat to keep up with what he's playing. I'm anxious to see what Jackson Browne is going to reclaim on his solo acoustic show... And in the case of Clapton & Layla, he *had* to re-invent the song because he's never been able to recreate the riff made famous by Duane Allman... Bob NP: Bruce, "For You" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:41:23 -0500 From: "Barnicle, Kathryn" Subject: Boston Info! Thanks RickieLee for the Boston Info. I have been searching the web to find where the fleet pavilion is. You have solved the mystery! Now, let's hope tickets will go on sale Monday. I hope to see you and other JMDLers in Section 2. 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ENSR www.ensr.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:43:55 -0500 From: Dave Gertler Subject: E-Center seats Hi, I just joined the list and saw in Tuesday's digest some discussion of seating at the E-Center. I got my tickets for 6/2 on Monday, after a long, _frustrating_ experience with Ticketmaster. When I finally got through to them on the phone, I didn't even get to talk to a human; the whole thing is automated now, and I felt it was take-it-or-leave-it on the seats. (Next time, I think I'll go to a local store that is a Ticketmaster outlet; sounds like you get a better chance to select seats that way.) Anyway: my seats are section 100, row G (the first row of that section), number 13 and 14. From the seating chart, it looks like they're near (or at) the very outside edge of that row. So I basically have front-row seats, but the furthest ones from the stage. Any opinions on whether I should keep these or try to sell them and find better ones? Thanks, Dave Gertler (longtime fan but haven't seen her live yet) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:00:09 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: E-Center seats <> Welcome to the list, Dave! I know what you mean with your parenthetical statement, as I was also a longtime fan but only saw her live for the first time on the '98 tour. Sounds like you E-Center folks are gonna fill up the center! Wouldn't it be cool if Joni acknowledged her JMDL fans at the shows?! Bob in South Carolina, still about a week away from buying his ticket... NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Point Blank" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 07:46:53 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Mendel update This just in from the Mendel Gallery... Please note: _________________________________ VOICES: JONI MITCHELL Mendel Art Gallery P.O. Box 569 950 Spadina Crescent East Saskatoon, Saskatchewan S7K 3L6 _________________________________ The dates of the exhibition have been extended. Voices: Joni Mitchell will still open on Friday, June 30th at 8 pm, but the exhibition will now be on display until SEPTEMBER 17th (extended from September 3rd). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:57:46 +0100 From: "Matthew Hall" Subject: Re: joni/madonna I've heard a lot about this picture from 'Vanity Fair' of Joni and Madonna a couple of years ago and I am desperate to see two of my favourite people together. Could anyone tell me if it's posted somewhere? I'd be eternally grateful. In fact, I already am. Matthew NP: Patti Smith 'Gung Ho' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:14:25 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: Tribute Tickets! TanyerSCO@aol.com wrote: > Tickets for the Tribute to Joni Mitchell at the Hammerstein Ballroom to be > taped on April 6th will be available at 12:00 noon on March 30th (that's > really soon!) at any Ticketmaster outlet. You can call 212-307-7171 or go to > any HMV or Wiz or Tower Records (I'd call first to make sure they are > vendors). Or you can go directly to the box office at 311 West 34th Street between 8th and 9th Avenues. Tickets go on sale at 12 noon (which is when the box office opens). Prices are $100 and $85. Person I talked to at the box office didn't say anything about the number of tickets, but the place only holds about 3,000 and probably 2,000 of that will be taken up with entourages and cameramen, so.... it's chancy, but I'm planning to go to the box office at about 10-10:30 tomorrow, with a cup of deli coffee and my currently fascinating Jack London book, Call of the Wild, to read while I wait, except I'll probably just end up people-watching. I'm counting my pennies now. If I see any other anxious-looking folks in line there, I'll say hi, JMDL anyone?. Debra Shea NP: Nick Drake's Way to Blue collection, which I know about because of this list. Thank you music-sharers so much, I love this! It keeps capturing me, so all I can do is listen. For such a simple sound, it's very swayie (as in, makes me sway :-), so it's kind of hard to type at the same time. Next up is Beth Orton's Central Reservation, another singer I've never heard but who's mentioned often on this list. And then XTC Skylarking. And then there's Dylan's Blood on the Tracks, a classic I'm told by the Bobists on the list. Thanks everyone for all the recommendations. It's great to have these new listening experiences. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:41:47 -0500 (EST) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Re: Got my tickets for E-Center Deb asked: >So, I'm section 102, row J, seats 11 & 12. >By your criteria, are these ideal, albeit >expensive, seats? If so, I'm glad to hear it! >I lived through Ticketmaster hell to get >them! Absolutely. If I felt that this (or any) concert were worth more than $55, I would certainly pick your seats over Brian's. As it stands, this show now wins the dubious distinction of my 300+ concerts, as being the most I have ever spent on a concert ticket ($55) and sets a new personal limit for the rest of this year. It earns that spot by costing $1 more than the show I saw this past Sat. night, The Allman Brothers at the Beacon Theater in NYC. And here is a fun anecdote form that show that I'll be telling for years to come. I have seen the ABB 6 times now at the Beacon since 1996. In all the previous years I always sprung for floor seats but this year they were too expensive, IMO, so I payed $54 for an upper balcony seat. Not having any intention of placing so much as my big toe on the ascending stairway to balcony, before I left home I went through my 5 previous ABBeacon ticket stubs, finding one from Sat 3/22/97. I meandered in the floor lobby until the lights went down and those still in the lobby rushed to enter the floor and take their seats, at which time I handed my now three year old stub to the rocket scientist checking stubs at the door to the floor. Now, this stub did say ABB, Beacon, and March, but where it should have said 25, it said 22. And it read 1997! But the best part is that it was not even remotely the same color! Nevertheless, I was directed to my now three year old seat. Sweet. I then took a 7th row center aile seat right in front of Dickey Betts, where I remained through the entire three hour, two set show. No one ever came to claim this premium priced seat. HA! So don't be surprised, Deb, if you spot me in your row at the Joni show should I spot an open seat. I imagine there will be several, when those disillusioned and bored folks who did not expect an evening of "dinner music" call it a night. gdave - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:07:44 -0500 From: Richard Rice Subject: Ticket info. Hi Ric, Saw your email to the Joni list and wanted to send along a comforting note (?) regarding tickets. Don't be too alarmed that Ticketmaster does not have any Joni info yet, but do keep an eye out for any confirming info you may see in a local paper, etc. I got my Chicago tickets at a ticketmaster. I was there 15 minutes before the 10 a.m. opening, and even then the computer punched up 'no information available on that event.' It wasn't until 5 min. before hand that Joni's date appeared on their terminal. Luckily, I was the first in line (the only person in line.) and got good seats!!! This is amazing that she is touring again so soon! Even more amazing that she wants to get back into the studio by August!!!!! Although, my partner, who does not care for her, is a Jazz 'traditionalist' and who particularly does not care for BSN, made the comment upon hearing the album and the news she wants to cover her stuff and a 'Christmas' album," It's obvious she just wants out of her record contract." Anyway, the world is clueless and luckly, thankfully, WE ARE NOT!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:42:45 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers Project In a message dated 03/29/2000 3:25:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: << I think it would be great to come up with a Joni tune by the "original" Nancy. There must be something of Joni's she has recorded somewhere. I've always liked her going way back to when I was a kid in the 60s. I met a guy a couple years ago who lives in a very average condo building in Hermosa Beach here and he said that Nancy is his neighbor and that they are very friendly with each other! Maybe I should "cheat" and ask him to find out some scoop for us ;-) >> Kakki, When it comes to Joni, I'm not above cheating!! Are you? Consider this a challenge: may the best JMDL'er be the first to uncover a Joni cover by the "original" Nancy Wilson :-) Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:22:14 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: BSN Review from SonicNet Under The Covers Something's lost, but something's gained. By Carol Cooper At New York's Madison Square Garden in November of 1998, Joni Mitchell gave an extraordinary 15-song concert that included the jazz standard "Comes Love." Opening for Bob Dylan, she'd embarked on her first full U.S. tour in decades, and time didn't permit her to showcase more than a handful of songs for an audience dying to hear her most popular tunes. It was, in fact, interesting that she chose to include any cover material at all, but "Comes Love" — previously recorded by the likes of Ella Fitzgerald, Rosemary Clooney and (perhaps most famously) Billie Holiday — came across every bit as wry and witty as the best of Mitchell's own compositions. Performed with a tight, rock-fusion combo, the song was an electrifying triumph — its subtle, deliciously ambient accompaniment only enhancing Mitchell's dark, reedy timbre and brisk phrasing. Mitchell's nuanced readings of Tin Pan Alley classics such as "Stormy Weather," "Sometimes I'm Happy" and "You're My Thrill" are firmly stamped with both '50s moral ambivalence and her own particularly mordant post-modern sensibility. Had all 12 tracks of Both Sides Now, Mitchell's new album of mostly covers of vintage torch songs, been performed with the same band she used on that tour, it probably would have been a far more enjoyable listening experience. As it is, overwhelmed by the 70-piece London Symphony Orchestra, her vocals here sound lost and colorless. Mitchell's intent is clear, part of this ever-restless artist's ongoing experiments with form and context. Her inclusion of rearranged versions of her own "Both Sides Now" (RealAudio excerpt) and "A Case of You" helps cast this album as a sort of "bridge" project — a way of explaining her fascination with unorthodox, blues-inflected tunings and wide jazz harmonies. By subtracting the pop-folk bounce and simple harmonies from these Mitchell touchstones, she places them in a different emotional and cultural universe. Citing Duke Ellington's tone poems and Charlie Parker's improvised solos as bigger influences on her contemporary style than the Irish and English ballads she mastered while first learning her craft, Mitchell told the Austin Chronicle's Jody Denburg, "I don't suffer in a pure minor. I just don't. I'm not happy in a pure major [either]; there's always some ... ever since the bomb dropped, ... there's always been a second note running through everybody's lives, whether they're sensitive to it or not." This album, then, seems to be Joni's attempt to better familiarize us with that "second note," and how it presaged the lean, moody melodies of recent works such as "Lakota" and "The Magdalene Laundries." Thus, her nuanced readings of Tin Pan Alley classics such as "Stormy Weather," "Sometimes I'm Happy" and "You're My Thrill" are firmly stamped with both '50s moral ambivalence and her own particularly mordant post-modern sensibility. Anachronistic? You bet. Disconcerting? Absolutely. But upon further reflection, one can think of no better way for an ambitious singer/songwriter to gamely try to transcend some of the most time-honored cliches of 20th-century pop craft. [Wed., March 29, :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:43:56 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Joni on Ebay Hi Gang! I don't know if everyone is checking this out, but along with some great seats for Joni's upcoming East Coast swing, also spotted was a BSN cover poster and a poster that looks like what will be showing up in the Tower displays Michael posted about a couple of days ago. Ha, personally I don't ever do ebay, but it is a good place to be tipped off on what might be available, real good for free, in the record stores shortly. The 18X24 BSN poster is what caught my eye, and usually a record store will let you put your name and phone number on the back and give you a call when they're ready to take it down. Penny PS Russell, mail me privately, and I'll put your name and phone number on the back of a poster if I come across these in Portland. ;-) :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:48:07 EST From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in Boston robbert. there will, no doubt, be a big gathering of list fans, and i would love to join all of you. of course you would be welcome! roberto will be here, i think! it will be a grand, wonderful party, and i hope i can attend, stay up all night and cause trouble! i don't want to offend anyone's sensibilities, and no one needs to join me if they feel it might not be politically correct, but if circumstances allow, i have every intention of stalking joni's every move! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:08:35 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Joni L.A. Show Parties Hi all, For those of you who will be attending Joni's concert at the Greek on May 12th and would like to meet up with a really great bunch of fellow jmdl'ers please let me know. There are 12 listmembers on the L.A. party list so far. We have some wonderful pre- and post-show party plans and don't want anyone interested to be left out, so please email me privately if you'd like to join us. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 18:40:02 -0000 From: "Jamie Zubairi" Subject: Re: Joni-inspired movies (c/o "Magnolia") (SJC) I have seen a film called 'The Arrangement' which starred Kirk Douglas. Her song of the same name was meant to be the opening title theme. It never got used. It's about a businessman who goes through some troubles. Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:55:15 +1000 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Creative Writing (SJC) I really wish I could write creatively :-) What I am trying to develop (as an assignment) is a software package that can teach people to write creatively. The first part of this process is, of course, to be able to to learn from other people's creative writing. I'm basing this around Joni's writing and I'd love some feedback, *any* feedback. A great big thank you to those people who have already contributed, but for a sneak preview of what's going on, have a look at: http://www.users.bigpond.com/AlanLorimer/welcome.htm Have a look and see what you think :-) Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:59:42 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: BSN Review from SonicNet << Had all 12 tracks of Both Sides Now, Mitchell's new album of mostly covers of vintage torch songs, been performed with the same band she used on that tour, it probably would have been a far more enjoyable listening experience. As it is, overwhelmed by the 70-piece London Symphony Orchestra, her vocals here sound lost and colorless. >> While I don't totally agree with this writer, can you imagine how sweet it would be to hear some of these with a simple jazz trio or quartet? Piano, Drums, Sax, Bass? Or even Joni singing with somebody else on a Steinway...awesome! Bob NP: Hejira, from Troubadour of Folk 6/5/93 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:22:40 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: BSN Review from SonicNet << Had all 12 tracks of Both Sides Now, Mitchell's new album of mostly covers of vintage torch songs, been performed with the same band she used on that tour, it probably would have been a far more enjoyable listening experience. As it is, overwhelmed by the 70-piece London Symphony Orchestra, her vocals here sound lost and colorless. >> Bob wrote: Oh yes, that would be sweet, eh! Just the possibility of this, was a determining factor for me to pick Joni's Mendel exhibit opening as my "Joni event of the spring/summer", when I realized it was happening at the tail end of the Saskatoon Jazzfest. The Jazzfest people are currently trying very hard to get Joni to sign on to play there. And Saskatoon does, in fact, have a 65 piece symphony, with their regular performance day being Saturday. (Joni's exhibit opens on Friday night.) Either way, small band or full symphony, just the possibility of Joni playing too, was too great to not make this event what I'm zeroing in on! ;-) Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:46:55 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: BSN Review from SonicNet > While I don't totally agree with this writer, can you imagine how sweet it > would be to hear some of these with a simple jazz trio or quartet? Piano, > Drums, Sax, Bass? > Or even Joni singing with somebody else on a Steinway...awesome! > > Bob BSN is beautiful but I have to say I agree with Bob on this one. A small jazz ensemble would be sublime for Joni & a bunch of standards, imo. Kinda like Billies early 30's stuff and also the Verve recordings of the 50's.... Now make a note of this, Bob. I'm *agreeing* with you! ;-) Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 17:53:35 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: BSN Review from SonicNet SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: can you imagine how sweet it would be to hear some of these with a simple jazz trio or quartet? Piano, > Drums, Sax, Bass? > Or even Joni singing with somebody else on a Steinway...awesome! > > Bob She did this at the 1980 Bread and Roses benefit in Berkeley, for one song, Sweet Sucker Dance, a duet with Herbie Hancock on piano. It was awesome, more powerful, IMO, than anything on BSN....though I am looking forward to hearing this stuff live.... RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:38:31 -0500 (EST) From: mr_lovesaint@webtv.net Subject: 2 items 1 ). when the heck are atlanta tix on sale???? did i already miss it?? 2 ). i had the pleasure of seeing our friend Victor ( waytoblue ) perform last week . it was on one of the best stages for live music in Atlanta : eddies attic . the sound system they have there is wonderful .  well, i got there late and after taking a bathroom break and receiving my sunflower photo ( a doorprize from victor ) , i got to see my first fellow jmdl'er . now let me tell you victor is one cool cat. i could tell when i saw him that he was a really nice guy. and he's got some wonderful . i can remember really listening to the words and then getting lost because of his rich voice bouncing off wood floors . we didn't get to talk much but im sure we will ( maybe at the show ) . if any of you get a chance to see victor play , i say DO IT. i had a great time victor. hope to see you again soon, pal. JESS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:46:29 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Anne Sandstrom surgery From: "Marie Rizzo" Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:44:07 -0500 Anne came through the surgery OK, but will need further chemotherapy treatment. Please keep her in your thoughts and prayers. Her Sister, Marie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:45:11 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Tickets to Joni's CT concert From: "Galli, Heather (Chem)" Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:09:30 -0500 Hi everyone! Sorry to bounce through like this but I just wanted to extend the offer of purchasing tickets to Joni's show here in Connecticut. They go on sale to the public on April 10th. For those who are interested in going please contact me at: gallih@ccsu.edu I can make payment arrangements with you. I will be going to the box office to purchase the tickets so I can see the best seats available. I am more than happy to do this. The more JMDLies the better :-) Heather ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:23:44 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Covers Project > When it comes to Joni, I'm not above cheating!! Are you? >Consider this a challenge: may the best JMDL'er be the first >to uncover a Joni cover by the "original" Nancy Wilson :-) Stephen, My few searches online have not come up with anything yet. Although I see she is on a just-released "Tribute to Duke Ellington" that sounds fantastic and includes a performance by Jon Hendricks. (my credit card started trembling at the selections) Also noticed that she has covered "You've Changed". So do I get Joni-related bonus points? ;-) Well, the next step may be a search of old vinyls or resorting to outright cheating! ;-D Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:58:39 -0500 From: Jason Long Subject: BSN debuts on Billboard's album chart This has probably already been posted, but since I'm on the digest version of the list I have no way of telling -- sorry if this is a repeat... According to an article on the Addicted to Noise site about tomorrow's new Billboard chart, _Both Sides Now_ will debut at #89. Not as good as one might hope for, but hopefully the album will pick up some momentum over the coming weeks with the tour dates and other promotional plans. Cheers, Jase NP: Hole, _Celebrity Skin_ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #116 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?