From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #115 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, March 29 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 115 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: ["Jill and H" ] BYT assimilated ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Best of the Best IYHO (playlist) ["Alison Einerson" ] Re: William Shatner does Joni covers... [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #157 [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #157 [Jerry Notaro ] Re: my nightmare VLJC [Catherine McKay ] Joni in London in August? [jamiezoob@freeuk.com] Joni in London in August? [jamiezoob@freeuk.com] scrambling for tickets [Erin Stoy ] MORE JONI at the Check-out "Celebrity Dish" [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: Morning Morgantown (not much JC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni in London in August? (and the BSN tour) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Got my tickets for E-center [kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave)] Re: Got my tickets for E-center [Deb Messling ] TNT stuff ["Sue Cameron" ] Tribute Tickets! [TanyerSCO@aol.com] ATTN joni boston-concert wannagoes [RickieLee1@aol.com] National Post Review [James Leahy ] Re; Joni Media Hype ["Stephen M. Rapp" ] Both Sides Now, the song, Redux ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:36:27 +0100 From: "Jill and H" Subject: Re: Hello Kerry! Jamie Zubairi here from my parents email. Nice to have you on board. You are really lucky to be living in the States. For those of us on the list that are in Europe (or anywhere else in the world... we are waiting with baited breath to see if she announces any further dates. Well as to your big question.... I feel completely underwhelmed by the amount of coverage she gets. Compared to the likes of the 'teen stars' she doesn't even get a look in in the UK. Apart from AdultOrientedRadio there has been little or no airplay for BSN, no big posters in the stores (and I check with regularity). I am so glad that we do have the internet and jm.com and jmdl.com and the list. I, and I'm sure the other UK listers, will have heard nothing about the tour or the exhibition. I do revel when I do hear her being mentioned, and I scour music magazines for her pics etc (am I obsessed or what?) What is the media in the States coverage of her stuff anyway? I would like to know. That lovely pic from the jonimitchellfans site is way cool! (her and Madonna at '98 Oscar Party.! Joni Rocks!) Anyway Much Joni Jamie Zubairi > > My big question is, does anyone else feel totally overwhelmed by all the > Joni media coverage, the web sites, the discussion list itself? Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone > else shared the same feelings.....I'm sure I will adjust, because it's > all very interesting. > > Thanks, > Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:50:28 -0500 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: BYT assimilated Scott Price wrote: >I must say it warms my heart to know that Joni's words and >music have become so deeply engraved in our culture. And all over the world, too. A friend, whose 10 year old son goes to a school in Islington, North London, told me he'd recently heard him walking round the house humming Big Yellow Taxi. Asking him how he knew that song, he said they were learning it in school. PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:17:53 -0700 From: "Alison Einerson" Subject: Re: Best of the Best IYHO (playlist) Hello All, to answer a few questions: Marian wrote: and Cassy asked: >>What songs did you play? (on the radio joni special i did) what i remember from the setlist ( i don't have a copy of it here) included: (not in order) Sisotowvbell Lane That Song About the Midway For Free Don't Interrupt the Sorrow Tea Leaf Prophecy Songs to Ageing Children Come LIttle Green Cold Blue Steel... People's Parties Dreamland Borderline Tiger Bones and I think, Two Grey Rooms, but it could have been Come in From the Cold. I can't remember. PLUS almost the entire BSN, except the remake of (ironically) BSN because I ran out of time! I interspersed BSN track by track between old stuff. So the contrast was really nice, and you could hear the progression/growth/change between the old stuff and new. I think it worked... :) >From: Catherine McKay > >I'd be curious to know which songs brought in the most >pledges - did you happen to track that? I didn't gauge the response to certain songs in terms of pledges, but i definately had some hardcore joni fans tuned in (as evidenced by requests i got, more obscure stuff) I also had a lot of people who found the show accidentally and were thrilled to hear joni on the radio. It was a very positive response in general. If you want a copy of the show, I did record it so I could make a copy for you. Email me privately and I can give you an address to send a blank to. Thanks again for the comments, advice, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 07:45:46 -0600 From: Mark Domyancich Subject: Tickets for 6/2 If anyone is in search of tickets for 6/2, eBay has two of them: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=294658844 NP-Otis and Marlena - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net http://homepage.mac.com/mtd/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:15:35 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: William Shatner does Joni covers... - --- Steve Polifka wrote: > Bob wrote: > > << Not currently planned on Volume 2, Maurice, but > we'll hunt that sucker > down > and get it on one at some point! Does William > Shatner do any Joni covers? :~) > >> > Jimmy Replied: > I do think William Shatner cover "Judgement of the > Moon and Stars" on one of > his albums :......." or take a walk > > a park > > a bridge > > a tree > > a river > > dammit Spock! " > > Jimmy > > My 2 cents... > Dont forget, Bones will have to interject at some > point in the song, "He's > dead, Jim..." > Steve > Or, "Dammit, Jim - I'm a doctor, not a composer!" ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 06:20:11 PST From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Re: Morning Morgantown (not much JC) Up here, we always figured out that it was about Morgantown, PA. Reuben Vince Lavieri wrote: Everyone I know from Morgantown, West Virginia swears the song is about Morgantown, West Virginia. But what do I know? (the Rev) Vince ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:29:38 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: bsn - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > < not at all mis match with the > new music. these lyrics worked for me with this > music. in fact, both sides > now is really beautiful. >> > > Good point, pat. A lot of the artists who've covered > BSN have also added the lush orchestration, but not > as much so with 'A Case of You'. I wonder if she > should have substituted 'River' as it lends itself > more to the orchestration treatment. You guys are just SOOO wrong! (I'm kidding, it's your opinion, just as *valid* as mine - but not as good!! Ha!) Actually, I really DO like this version of A Case of You. It's almost like having 2 *different* songs that are both them same song (huh?), both of them amazingly good. This new orchestrated version sounds almost anthemic to me - an anthem to tough love (as it were). (Listen to it again). In the car last night with 9-yr old Matty, "Sometimes I'm happy" is playing. When Joni sings, "Sometimes I love you/ Sometimes I hate you/ But when I hate you/ It's because I love you", from the backseat pipes a young voice: "that doesn't make sense". Later, that same evening, Matthew the mimic is overheard crooning to one of the cats, "I'm furry when I'm with you." ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:31:13 EST From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #157 Hi everyone! Ok, I'm still new at this thing so please excuse my ignorance but what does NP mean at the end of all these postings? Duh, Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:37:51 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #157 TanyerSCO@aol.com wrote: > Hi everyone! > Ok, I'm still new at this thing so please excuse my ignorance but what does > NP mean at the end of all these postings? FAQ. Now Playing. Many times it will introduce us to names or songs we wouldn't have listened to. Jerry np: BYT - Spectrum "76 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:44:36 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: my nightmare VLJC - --- "P. Henry" wrote: > hi all, > recently someone mentioned nightmares so I thought > I'd share mine... This is soooo bad, it just had to be true - no one could have made it up! Now we're all waiting with bated breath to find out when you actually DO receive the guitar (and - I hate to say this! - if it gets there in one piece!) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:46:08 z (BST) From: jamiezoob@freeuk.com Subject: Joni in London in August? Hello All I have just read the i/v at jm.com from pro.qb (I think) and it says that Joni has come up with a list of possible to the followup to BSN with the possibilty that she will record again in London in August! I must find out where George Martin's Air Lyndhurst Studios are. Any offers? Martin Giles? Much Joni Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:45:18 z (BST) From: jamiezoob@freeuk.com Subject: Joni in London in August? Hello All I have just read the i/v at jm.com from pro.qb (I think) and it says that Joni has come up with a list of possible to the followup to BSN with the possibilty that she will record again in London in August! I must find out where George Martin's Air Lyndhurst Studios are. Any offers? Martin Giles? Much Joni Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:49:42 -0500 From: Erin Stoy Subject: scrambling for tickets "... at the stroke of 10 my agent came online for Gold American Express ticket line. I'm in ! Then all thequestions. I was using me best friend's card and thought I had all the info written down. What is the special customer service number on the back of your card......sir? What is your e-mail address???? What is your business phone. Man did I scramble, lie, cheat. I felt like an episode of I love Lucy. But I did get them. Preferred seating!!!! 2 tickets!!!!" I went through the exact same thing!! I used a friend's AmEx and wrote everything off the front...Who in the world would've thought they'd require some 1-800 # from the back of the card??!! But I got 2 tickets also, in Row N. For the bargain price of $180! But what are ya gonna do... I figured if I'm gonna make an 8-hr round trip drive to see my favorite artist of all time, I was gonna do it right. :) Erin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:37:27 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: MORE JONI at the Check-out "Celebrity Dish" Isn't this fun????? Joni is suddenly everywhere............now in a cooking magazine called CELEBRITY DISH. They have them here at the check-out counter of the grocery store next to TV GUIDE. In fact, CELEBRITY DISH is put out by the publishers of TV GUIDE and is the same size. Check out the April issue with a picture of Leeza Gibbons on the front. On page 10 under STARTERS is a small color picture of Joni playing guitar and singing into a microphone. She's the only artist picture on the page! Quoting below: QUIZ: EAT TO THE BEAT Some songs make you want to dance, some tunes inspire you to cuddle and some ditties put you in the mood for food (think 'American Pie' or even 'Tea For Two'). Test your knowledge of munchable melodies by matching these song titles and performers with the lyrics that follow. SONGS AND SINGERS A. Hot Lunch Jam - Irene Cara b. That's Amore - Dean Martin c. Chelsea Morning - Joni Mitchell d. MacArthru Park - Donna Summer e. Scarborough Fair - Simon & Garfunkel f. Sugar, Sugar - The Archies g. Jack and Diane - John Mellencamp h. Ice Cream - Sarah McLachlan i. My Favorite Things - Julie Andrews J. You Were Meant for Me - Jewel LUSCIOUS LYRICS 1. * Got my eggs and my pancakes too/ Got my maple syrup, everything but you 2. *You are my candy girl/And you got me wanting you. 3. *Your love is better than chocolate/ Better than anything else that I've tried 4. *When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie. 5. *Someone left the cake out in the rain/ I don't think that I can take it/'cuz it took so long to bake it/And I'll never have that recipe again. 6. *Macaroni and bologna/Tuna fish our favorite dish. 7. *Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme 8. *Suckin' on a chili dog outside the TasteeFreez 9. *Woke up...and the first think that I knew/There was milk and toast and honey and a bowl of oranges too. 10. *Cream-colored ponies and crisp apple strudels/Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles. Hey, I feel a sweepstakes coming on.............. Okay, Okay.........here's the answers if you really need them!! a. 6 b. 4 c. 9 d. 5 e. 7 f. 2 g. 8 h. 3 i. 10 j. 1 You gotta love this!!!!!!!!! Oh, BTW, check out the oven-baked barbecued ribs (and picture!) recipe on page 74 and the rich chocolate frosting recipe (and picture!) on page 49 !! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:40:34 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Morning Morgantown (not much JC) - --- Reuben Bell wrote: > Up here, we always figured out that it was about > Morgantown, PA. > > Reuben > > Vince Lavieri wrote: > Everyone I know from Morgantown, West Virginia > swears the song is about > Morgantown, West Virginia. > > But what do I know? > (the Rev) Vince > Not much, Rev ;) Funny, but I never thought Morgantown was a real place - - it sounded too perfect (but in a NICE way, not necessarily in the pretty-on-the-surface-with-a-seamy-underbelly kind of way.) To me "Morgan" was always one of those archetypical names - it goes beyond "Smith" (which is the name people typically use when signing into by-the-hour motels *pretending* to be married couples - - poor people whose real name is Smith who must get weird looks when they tell people their name) and "Doe" (which is usually a dead person with a tag on his/her toe). The town would be one of those fantasy places that you'd sing to your kids about. When I was a kid and we were playing at being other people, my last name would typically be "Morgan". Don't ask me why, but it seemed like the perfect name to me somehow. But then, in the town where I grew up, just about everyone was of Scottish, Irish, French or Polish background, so a name like "Morgan" would be pretty typical. ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:55:20 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers Project In a message dated 03/26/2000 12:04:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, KakkiB@worldnet.att.net writes: << Tell me about funny - this was my serendipitous find on a small atoll in Micronesia last month. In the midst of working 17-hour days, I excitedly told a co-worker and fellow musichead about my great find and she was yelling and cheering and wanting a copy for herself. We literally snuck off away from the bosses late one in my rental car (the only place we had to play it) in a monsoon rain to give it a listen. At the first strains of the folky acoustic guitar, we both went "HUH?!" I was so embarrased! The she said, rather irritatedly, "THAT'S NOT NANCY WILSON!" We figured that the wrong tape got in the wrong cassette case or something. It wasn't until the next day that the light bulb went on with me. Duh!! >> Kakki: I always enjoy reading your contributions to the list--I regard you as one of the "knowledgeable ones" so I was both amused and PLEASED to read that you thought you had a recording of a Joni song by Nancy Wilson the jazz singer. When I first heard the guitar strains I immediately realized that it was Nancy Wilson of Heart, but felt real stupid that I had even thought of the jazz singer. I feel that I'm in good company knowing that you had the same thought/hope :) But I am determined to sniff out a recording of any Joni song by "our" Nancy Wilson (if one exists) and you will be the first to know about it and to receive a copy of it (Sorry Bob, but you will have to stand behind Kakki for this one). Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:04:00 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Discounted Airline Tickets For those of you looking for airline tickets to get to Joni's shows......... check out: http://www.Expedia.com I was just talking with a friend of mine I used to work with, who has to organize flights for herself and her new boss. She told me that twice now she's used Expedia.com and found cheaper tickets then calling the airlines direct (for the cheapest prices) or using a travel agent. She was pretty amazed. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:51:31 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: Joni in London In August Jamie wrote: <> Hmmm, Jamie, my first thought when I read that Joni was going back to the UK in August to start recording on the next one, was that maybe that's when she could plan to do a concert over there for you guys! Hope so! Why not? She'll be over there anyway, why not pay a few bills while she's there? Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:02:10 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni in London In August If Joni shows up in London in August, and if my Dad's estate has been settled by then, I'll be there! In fact, since it's cheaper to fly from Toronto to Europe than it is to fly from Toronto to anywhere in Canada (figure that one out!), I'm going to suggest that my brother and sisters join me there and we'll do a tour. We'll meet at Stonehenge and do some kind of ritual, then we'll head down to my grandmother's birthplace (somewhere in Kent, do you think I can remember the name?) and then go to Scotland and Ireland while we're at it to check out our other ancestral roots. What the hey - I haven't had a vacation in eons and I need to get away! Somewhere! Anywhere! It might as well be England. Someone put the kettle on - I need a good cuppa! - --- Penny wrote: > Jamie wrote: > > < think) and it says > that Joni has come up with a list of possible to the > followup to BSN > with the possibilty that she will record again in > London in August! I > must find out where George Martin's Air Lyndhurst > Studios are. Any > offers? Martin Giles?>> > > > Hmmm, Jamie, my first thought when I read that Joni > was going back to > the UK in August to start recording on the next one, > was that maybe > that's when she could plan to do a concert over > there for you guys! > Hope so! Why not? She'll be over there anyway, why > not pay a few bills > while she's there? > > > Penny > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > Grace dies when it becomes us verses > them......Philip Yancey > > ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:30:49 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in London in August? (and the BSN tour) Jamie wrote: << I have just read the i/v at jm.com from pro.qb (I think) and it says that Joni has come up with a list of possible to the followup to BSN with the possibilty that she will record again in London in August! >> I wonder if she'll be singing some of the "follow up" songs on her BSN tour. There are 12 songs from BSN and she did 16 songs at the Atlanta concert in '98, plus Dylan performed. Will she pull out the VG8 and sing without the orchestra, or will she give us a surprise and perform some new standards? I'll be thrilled just to hear her sing the 12 songs, but some fans may be disappointed if the concert isn't a little longer. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 17:22:32 -0500 (EST) From: kb420@webtv.net (gr8fuldave) Subject: Re: Got my tickets for E-center Got exactly the tix I wanted at 10:30 AM yesterday at the local counter. There was no one there and no wait. I asked for section 202. This is the exact center section just over the money line. In other words there is a 6' wide walkway separating the $80 seats from the $50 seats, effectively dividing the roofed seating in half. I was given Row D so I'm close enough to see the whole stage very well, while far enough back and center to get perfect stereo sound and save $30 and still stay dry in the event of rain. Although I don't think they are even selling the lawn, but that could change with demand. Catgirl, your seats are in the extreme left or right section (102 being center) and not too good for sight or sound based on my 2 or 3 experiences at the E-center. Brian, your seats have their + & - , depending on the wants of the attendee. There's no debating your view, but your sound will be "different" than most of the "house" being so close to the stage. Ideally, if I were not so cheap, I would want to be about 10th to 15th row center, but I di not mind being ~30th row center to save $30. Let's hope for some gr8 weather that night! Anyone else besides the three of us for Camden? gdave NP: Roger Waters 3/28/85 @ Radio City Music Hall, NYC - ----------------------------------------------------------------- DaveBase @ http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2349/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:00:52 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Got my tickets for E-center So, I'm section 102, row J, seats 11 & 12. By your criteria, are these ideal, albeit expensive, seats? If so, I'm glad to hear it! I lived through Ticketmaster hell to get them! Drove to my "local" (ha ha) outlet, and their computer was down, so I had to schlep to the next closest "local" counter. At 05:22 PM 3/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >most of the "house" being so close to the stage. Ideally, if I were not >so cheap, I would want to be about 10th to 15th row center, but I di not >mind being ~30th row center to save $30. > >Let's hope for some gr8 weather that night! Anyone else besides the >three of us for Camden? Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ ~there are only three kinds of people: those who can count, and those who can't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:08:48 -0500 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: TNT stuff Hello all, My daughter ran out of her room Sunday night to announce the ad she has just seen for the tribute on TNT. I laughed and told her I already knew. "Ah that darn list!" she said. "I wanted to surprise you with the news." Had a Joni sighting of my own watching the Sunday morning news on NBC. The goofy guy who does color sequences had a piece on the Oscars and what the stars would be wearing. He promised that he would not show a shot of the skimpy Jennifer Lopez dress. While he was saying this I glanced over his shoulder and saw an advertisement for BSN with a picture of the "dress" taped to it. Quite funny. Last but not least, due to the post noting the promotion being given to BSN I though I would write TNT to see what was going on. The note read: Name: Sue Cameron comments: I just found out you are airing a tribute to the talented Joni Mitchell. Will there be merchandise related to this event for sale in the future? Their answer to me? " No". That was it, just two little letters forming that one tiny word. Who do they have hired to answer these things? I think several other listers might write and inquire the same thing. The address to the page is http://www.tnt-tv.com/asktnt/special_events.html. Two months and three days to Detroit!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:54:13 EST From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Tribute Tickets! Ok . . .here's the scoop! Tickets for the Tribute to Joni Mitchell at the Hammerstein Ballroom to be taped on April 6th will be available at 12:00 noon on March 30th (that's really soon!) at any Ticketmaster outlet. You can call 212-307-7171 or go to any HMV or Wiz or Tower Records (I'd call first to make sure they are vendors). Hope to see you all there!!!!!!!! : ) Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:58:36 EST From: RickieLee1@aol.com Subject: ATTN joni boston-concert wannagoes greetings listers: here are the facts, as currently understood. i hope those of you in the boston area find this helpful. (all others, press those delete buttons down) you may want to print this out for future reference. the boston fleet pavilion is not at the fleet center. it is at 290 Northern Ave., Wharf 8. There is parking available at the Seaport Hotel and/or the EDIC Parking Garage. (it may be the EDAC garage...it was difficult to understand the recording.) Directions: from the north (like me and ashara!) Take 93 South to the High St/Congress St. exit Left on High St. Left on Congress St. Left on Atlantic Ave. Right on Northern Ave. Wharf 8 is directly after Jimmy's Restaurant. from the South: (like katie on the cape!) Take 93 North to Exit 22 "Northern Ave/Atlantic Ave" Stay to the right side of the exit ramp. Cross Atlantic Ave and proceed over the new Northern Ave. Bridge Continue down Northern Ave. to Wharf 8, directly after Jimmy's Restaurant. from the West: Take the Mass Pike to the end. Stay to your left as you approach the end of the Pike and follow signs on to 93North. Take the first exit, #22 (Northern Ave/Atlantic Ave) and follow "from the south" instructions. Public Transportation: Take the Red Line to South Station stop. Go Upstairs and catch the BankBoston shuttle to the Fleet Pavilion The phone number for the pavilion is 617-728-1600 The website is www.bankbostonpavilion.com. Tickets will be available at the pavilion on the day of the concert only. call first. Advance ticket sales are only through ticketmaster. Ticketmaster's number is 617-931-2000 Ticketmaster's phone lines open at 9AM. From the seating chart that i have, the best section would be section 2, rows a-z. (i.e., rows 1-26) section two continues centrally back from the stage, rows aa-zz. (i.e., rows 27-52) sections 1 and 3 are to the left and right of the stage and are probably very good seats too, but section 2 would be center. behind sections 1 and 3, also to the left and right, but farther back, are sections 4 and 6. all top price seats are covered and offer unobstructed sight lines to the stage. all lower price seats are either obstructed under the pavilion (a tent like structure) or partially obstructed and uncovered concourse seating, which is outside the pavilion and has table service. seats in each row start with number 1 on the left. i.e., if you got in section 2, rows a-z, seats numbered 1, 2, or 3 (etc.) would move you from the left to the right progressively. unfortunately i do not know how many seats there are to a row. now, the downside to all of this is that i checked the website, and i called ticketmaster, and neither place had ANY information whatsoever about any joni mitchell concert! i have been looking in the boston papers, and no ads or announcements have been made thus far. the person i spoke to at ticketmaster checked their computer and found nothing about any "joan mitchell". (she sounded about 12 years old.) given the fact that tickets are supposed to go on sale april 3, per the joni home page, this is a bit alarming! i am not sure if i will be able to provide anymore updates, but i hope you boston area folks find this info useful. in the meantime, keep the hartford concert in mind, because unless something solidifies here, we may all be making the drive south. good luck! peace, ric ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:14:08 -0500 From: James Leahy Subject: National Post Review The National Post's (Canada's 2nd national newspaper) review of BSN (complete with pic) is at the following web site: http://www.nationalpost.com/artslife.asp?f=000328/244630 Here it is as text (just in case it disappears tomorrow). I hope this wraps OK: Knows what she's got Joni Mitchell makes good use of her eroded voice on an album of old love songs Robert Cushman National Post The liner notes to Both Sides Now (Reprise CDM 4720), Joni Mitchell's album of standards, proclaim that "Joni has achieved something quite extraordinary in that she has truly sung [these songs] as if, as Nietzsche would say, she had written them in her own blood." Oh, come on now, it's not that bad. As a matter of fact, it's rather good. Mitchell is not a starry-eyed nostalgist, in the manner of Carly Simon or Linda Ronstadt. Unlike most post-rock singers who venture into pre-rock songs, she has some idea of how to interpret them. She explores the lyrics, and - -- perhaps even more important -- she is able to spread her findings intelligently and intelligibly across the music. Her previous experiments with jazz (including her Mingus album) may not have been too happy, but they have taught her how, in this repertoire, words and music support one another; in most contemporary songs, one illuminates the other. She doesn't swing, but she can play with rhythm. She includes a couple of her own compositions, but most of the material comes from the '30s and '40s. They were most popular, though -- certainly most omnipresent -- in the '50s and early '60s, and it's that period that seems to have inspired this production. That isn't a new idea; Ronstadt's albums, widely criticized for their anachronistic feel, also harked back to the '50s -- it just happened to be the wrong kind of '50s. (Critic Will Friedwald said that Ronstadt came "out of the classic Eddie Fisher-Teresa Brewer-Johnny Mathis tradition of really bad singing." She reminds me more of Connie Francis, but the point is the same. Everybody in the '50s was singing these songs, but they weren't all singing them well. Which is why the "lounge music" vogue, which lumps them all together in some camp idea of "style," is so pernicious.) Mitchell takes another idea that the notes describe as "innovative" -- though it was quite commonplace 40 years ago: arranging the songs to chronicle the rise and fall of a love affair. The built-in attraction of this concept is also its built-in flaw: The songs as written divide into rigid categories of happy and sad, and within those categories they are, in narrative terms, pretty much interchangeable. So albums like Mel Torme's Prelude to a Kiss or Bobby Darin's Love Swings boil down to half a dozen fast songs followed by half a dozen slow ones. Mitchell, though, is slow all the way through. Her CD recalls the Frank Sinatra ballad albums, each of which takes a particular mood (and it's a subtly different shade of despair on each LP) and dissects it. She ends with what is still her own best-known song, the one that gives the CD its title, but it sounds very out of place; the evidence is that she's looked at love from one side now, and it has, from the very first track, been the downside. I think that if I were selecting a song to illustrate the dawn of love, I might fix on The Way You Look Tonight or How Long Has This Been Going On, something that had wit in it, enjoyment -- maybe even a touch of optimism. Mitchell comes up with You're My Thrill, which expresses a masochistic devotion ("You do something to me ... Here's my heart on a silver platter") that seems to belong more to the obsessive middle of a relationship, and in any case is bound to end in tears. She sings it with a tremulous air of drugged surrender that sounds, in temper if not in tone, like late-period Billie Holiday. She lightens up a bit for At Last (a song that seems to me to be getting slightly more than its due these days), sounding as if she's singing with her eyes closed. But then it's Comes Love, a very '30s list song that, as written, is a merrily fatalistic catalogue of romantic resignation; she does it as a witch's curse. And then comes You've Changed, only the fourth song out of 12, and disillusion has set irrevocably in. After that it's all downhill, with Rodgers and Hart's I Wish I Were in Love Again turning up near the end as a sort of summation. I've often felt that this, the best of all anti-love songs, could stand a more mordant treatment than it usually gets, but in this context it seems superfluous. Why should someone who has got so little fun out of love be so eager to go through it again? Larry Hart's lyric is full of fun, however ironically expressed; Mitchell, unfortunately, comes from a school of song that thinks of irony as something misty and mopey rather than something hard and bright. (It's a mercy she doesn't include any Cole Porter.) And why should she think that Hart's great couplet "The pulled-out fur of cat and cur/The fine mismating of a him and her" is improved by the pedestrian subsitution of "flying fur" and "fine mismatching"? Or was she just being careless? The arrangements, by Vince Mendoza, are sensational. On one cut, Stormy Weather, he shares credit with the late Gordon Jenkins; this turns out to mean that the chart is heavily indebted to the windswept, string-laden treatment that Jenkins supplied for Sinatra's No One Cares album. It's a credit to Mitchell that her vocal, which includes an unexpected banshee wail on "everything I had is gone," stands up in the context. (And pleasing rather than embarrassing that the record appears on the label that Sinatra founded.) Mendoza, too, harks back to the '50s but in a wide-ranging way. At times he echoes Sinatra and Nelson Riddle. While his arrangement of Comes Love is something cool, dark and plangent that Gil Evans might have conjured for Miles Davis; it incorporates a startling trumpet solo by Mark Isham. (Other star guests are Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock.) Mitchell's vocal choices are similarly eclectic, and sometimes memories of other singers seem to be descending on her line by line rather than song by song. But she usually makes the material her own and uses the erosion in her voice to good, craggy effect; occasionally she seems to be singing Canadian mountain blues. The songs themselves vary more in quality than she probably believes: A couple are certifiable classics, a couple more might as well be, half a dozen are good, and one -- Answer Me, My Love - -- is a piece of '50s slush that there was no need to excavate. It's her own songs, though, that really get shown up. The lyric to A Case of You reads well (better, I'm tempted to say, than the lyric to a good song would) but gains nothing when it's heard. Both Sides Now itself she has simply outgrown, and her efforts to pump maturity into it are painful. It's a good fault, though. Compare her to Judy Collins, who had the original hit with the song and whose equivalent new album, Classic Broadway (Platinum 37522), shows her to be as blandly uncomprehending now as she was then. Mitchell has reached a new plateau; the notes may suggest that she is doing the old songs a favour, but she must know that it's the other way round. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:10:50 -0700 From: "Stephen M. Rapp" Subject: Re; Joni Media Hype This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------06BBB3058E4F2F01B5F048E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If Joni Mitchell is being over hyped in the media, it's because Joni Mitchell wants to be over hyped. Several years ago Joni discovered part of poor album sales was due to her reluctance to go out on the stump. She got a new manager and hired a publicist. Joni doesn't like poor album sales no matter how indifferent she might appear in some text. After all she has a Bel-Air home and an island in Canada to keep up. Joan is no fool as to the biz. You will notice that after the album "opens", she disapears back into her studio obscurity. - --------------06BBB3058E4F2F01B5F048E9 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="footpath.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen M. Rapp Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="footpath.vcf" begin:vcard n:Rapp;Stephen tel;cell:801-636-1855 tel;home:801-756-1096 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;112 So. Main Street;Alpine;UT;84004; version:2.1 email;internet:footpath@enol.com x-mozilla-cpt:;3 fn:Stephen Rapp Film Project end:vcard - --------------06BBB3058E4F2F01B5F048E9-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 23:32:58 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Both Sides Now, the song, Redux The first thing that struck me about recording "Both Sides Now", the song, again was how very shrewd it is from a marketing standpoint. Like the press can say, "Joni 'reclaims' her folk classic Both Sides Now on her new album." I imagined that the "People" magazines of the world would be able to say, "Mitchell has reinterpreted two of her FOLK songs (where just about everyone last saw her) in her new (sic) jazz idiom." It gives them a chance to restate the old tired party line about being a 60s folk, while introducing a new take. The concept is incredibly easy to explain, to pitch. Just like they said that Clapton 'reclaimed' Layla by recording an unplugged version. Just like they said that Springsteen 'reclaimed' Born To Run by recording it in a new unplugged version sans the E Streeters. Are there other examples? All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu near Cincinnati ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #115 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?