From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #113 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, March 28 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 113 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: "Naval" Gazing ["Kakki" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #112 ["Claudia SanSoucie" ] Pic of Joni & some info [mann@chicagonet.net] William Shatner does Joni covers... [Steve Polifka ] Re: bsn [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Got Milk? Hell no. Got tickets! [Jerry Notaro ] Got my ticket for E-Center [Brian Gross ] Re: Congratulations Cook-Bookers! [Don Rowe ] my nightmare VLJC ["P. Henry" ] Joni on Speakeasy Excerpt [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] NYC tickets? [Emily Kirk Gray ] BSN Thank You's ["David" ] Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance [GREYC1@aol.com] Morning Morgantown [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: Best of the Best IYHO [Catherine McKay ] Re: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance [Mike Friedman ] Re: This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign ["lpeakes" ] Re: BSN reviewed in Holland ["John van Tiel" ] Re: Pic of Joni & some info [Brian Gross ] Re: bsn [Don Rowe ] Rosemont Tickets [Vince Lavieri ] JONI IN COLUMBIA MD. [dave fairall / beth miller ] Re: This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign [FMYFL@aol.com] [none] [Bounced Message ] Re: Rosemont Tickets [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Morning Morgantown [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Kerry's post [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: ["catman" ] Tribute Tickets [TanyerSCO@aol.com] Re: Got my ticket for E-Center [CaTGirl627@aol.com] I'm still here! [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:50:48 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: "Naval" Gazing Jim joked: >Now me, Jim: Me too! I thought it was naval-gazing, but maybe it WAS naval-gazing. I mean, woh, >isn't the 60s >SongWriter the EPITOME of Naval-gazing? Maybe she RECOGNIZED herself, the >naval-gazer, in the naval-gazing section. It's like staring into parallel mirrors in the fun house- >ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, ME, Naval gazing - sounds like someone waiting for the fleet to come in ;-) I can see your point in a way although I prefer to consider it as a "getting to know you" kind of recognition of kindred spirits rather than mirrored Narcissism! The bios were light-hearted and often funny in their individuality. They made her laugh and endeared us to her a bit. Come on, if they were truly just navel gazing, she would have probably said "yuck" and not have even finished reading them. It's great that she was amused by them. (I do kind of like the "Joni and her mini-mes" idea, though ;-D Kakki NP: Joni - Jericho ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:02:36 -0500 From: "Claudia SanSoucie" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #112 Hi- any JMDL's going to Joni in DC. I would love to hook up with the group, since it is no fun to go alone. Is anybody getting tickets so I could sit with you? claud9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:58:37 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Pic of Joni & some info http://www.livedaily.com/tickets/today.html Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:10:02 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: William Shatner does Joni covers... Bob wrote: << Not currently planned on Volume 2, Maurice, but we'll hunt that sucker down and get it on one at some point! Does William Shatner do any Joni covers? :~) >> Jimmy Replied: I do think William Shatner cover "Judgement of the Moon and Stars" on one of his albums :......." or take a walk a park a bridge a tree a river dammit Spock! " Jimmy My 2 cents... Dont forget, Bones will have to interject at some point in the song, "He's dead, Jim..." Steve Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:29:58 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: American Beauty won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > I'm so Happy "American Beauty" won best Picture.The Academy > certainly got it right his year! > Well to each his own. I thought AB was highly over-rated. For a supposedly original and cutting edge movie I thought it was much too slick & contrived. But then what do I know? Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:41:28 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: bsn i picked up bsn on saturday in fayetteville north carolina in a barnes and nobels for $13.99. i've only had two listens to it so far. i can say that my reaction to it is more favorable than ttt. but it is so different, and so low key. it makes me smile. i really liked Comes Love and I Wish I Were in Love Again. i really really liked the music for a case of you, but i felt the lyrics no longer fit with the song. the music out played the words, or out classed or out grew the words. just my gut reaction, and sorry for any offense. both sides now was beautiful too. and this did not at all mis match with the new music. these lyrics worked for me with this music. in fact, both sides now is really beautiful. pat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:42:00 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni in RollingStone.. - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/26/00 4:56:40 AM US Central > Standard Time, > MINGSDANCE@aol.com writes: > Joni > is very upbeat and funny, > and I was especially tickled that she says the New > Radicals record was the > best thing she'd heard in a while, because I had the > same reaction to that > record as well. Hey, that's good to hear. Ironically, my daugher wanted that CD because of the hit song off it ("You get what you give"(?)) She didn't like the rest of it - - maybe it was too sophisticated for her. She's just turned 13, so whaddya want? Anyone else think New Radicals sound kind of Todd Rungren-ish? ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:10:57 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: bsn <> Good point, pat. A lot of the artists who've covered BSN have also added the lush orchestration, but not as much so with 'A Case of You'. I wonder if she should have substituted 'River' as it lends itself more to the orchestration treatment. I'll bet River gets the treatment on the sequel anyway... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:27:09 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Got Milk? Hell no. Got tickets! Sweated like whore in church, but at the stroke of 10 my agent came on line for Gold American Express ticket line. I'm in ! Then all the questions. I was using me best friend's card and thought I had all the info written down. What is the special customer service number on the back of your card......sir? What is your e-mail address???? What is your business phone. Man did I scramble, lie, cheat. I felt like an episode of I love Lucy. But I did get them. Preferred seating!!!! 2 tickets!!!! Now what do I do for the rest of the day? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:05:51 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Got tickets SF - --- KJHSF@aol.com wrote: > Greetings all-- > Just picked up tickets from bass at tower records in > SF. [...] There was a > line forming at 10;45, and > they tried and then aborted the lottery system > because of complaints. > Looking forward to meeting some of you that > weekend--any plans for a > gathering in the bay area? Something I just read in a letter to the editor in this weekend's Toronto Star - the lottery system is apparently the ticket sellers' way of *discouraging* scalpers. In the olden days (ah yes!), those who camped out a few days in advance were usually the die-hard fans who wanted to get good seats. These days, they're more likely to be homeless people paid by scalpers to hang around and buy up as many good tickets as they can which the scalpers will then re-sell. So, in one way, maybe it IS fair, but on the other hand - why can't people just play by the rules, dammit? ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:05:09 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Got my ticket for E-Center I'm sooooooooo excited at the moment, I can hardly keep my fingers on the keyboard and my butt on the chair I just got back from the Sony Blockbuster E-Center in Camden where tickets went on sale at 10AM for the final date of the BSN US Tour. There were only 4 people there in line when I got there (including a very occasional poster named John - Hi John!) My ticket is IN THE PIT IN THE SECOND ROW WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!! (that was my best Catgirl imitation) Those of you going to that show, contact me so we can co-ordinate our pre- and post-show activities. Later, Brian np: NPR ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Congratulations Cook-Bookers! Wow ... this is SO cool. That Joni would immediately wonder what sort of blissfully deranged souls would undertake such an effort, and flip to the bios section to find out is as endearing a gesture as I can think of. What a delight she is ... Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:12:57 -0800 From: "P. Henry" Subject: my nightmare VLJC hi all, recently someone mentioned nightmares so I thought I'd share mine... (I dreamed?:) there I was onlist trying to share what I could recall of when Joni taught me some songs way back and really trying to relate with some of the better musicians onlist who had worked out tabs for these songs that didn't work for me and so I decided to get a guitar to see if I could work thises things out with the help of my hands' memories. since none of my friends have one and this was like 3 months ago or more. *takes a breath* well, in my dream some people from the list were really helpful and I probably could/should have acquired my guitar through one of them but no, I decided to go online and order a guitar from musiciansfriend.com... in the meantime I have suddenly become way too busy to participate in the list as I once did and so, since no one is hearing from me, some of my good friends begin to really wonder if I'm just some big bag of hot air and bullshit as my silence continues... suddenly it dawns on me that I'm NOT dreaming and that this nightmare is real! now for the other side of the story...: (watch the dates) (NOTE: this is after several weeks of negotiating by email to get the order straight and passing off another sales person on to this 'troy', a manager...) On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 14:30:45 Service wrote: Hello, Thank you for your email. Our mailing address for orders is: Musicians Friend P.O. Box 4520 Medford, Oregon 97504 Thanks again, Customer Service At 07:03 PM 12/20/99 -0800, you wrote: hi again, my money order should be arriving there any day now with the shipping addresses (PO Box and street address) and it occurred to me that, since I work during the day, the shipper may want to call me to arrange delivery. my daytime phone # is (XXX) XXX-XXXX and my home address for weekends and evenings is (XXX) XXX-XXXX. again, thank you for all your help. pat On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 15:47:50 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response. Unfortunately, US Postal Service, is the only way we ship packages to Guam. Due to this, I am not sure that you will be contacted for delivery schedule. Again, I apologize for all the inconvenience this has caused you, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:12:12 Service wrote: At 08:25 AM 1/13/00 -0800, you wrote: hi, it's me again... I sent my money order in a couple weeks ago and just wanted to check if it was received and my guitar sent out. could you verify this for me please? thanks, pat ON 1/10/00 Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response. We have received and processed your order on 1/7/00. Unfortunately your order of the Sigma guitar is currently out of stock and we have 1/18/00 as the expected date of arrival. This date is tentative and is subject to change without notice from the manufacturer. As soon as we receive more shipment of the item, we will ship the item to you. Again, I apologize for all the inconveniences this has caused you, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 02:19 AM 2/18/00 -0800, you wrote: hey troy! what's up with this guitar?!? we had this interaction a month ago and the tb1 was supposed to be in stock within days. do I have an order tracking #? an insurance #? has it been sent out? please help me. pat On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:06:14 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. Your order was shipped today, February 21, via US Postal Service. Normal delivery time for packages sent via this method is approximately 7-10 business days. You should receive the package soon. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 11:37 AM 2/22/00 -0800, you wrote: Troy, Thanks for letting me know. Per our previous negotiations and considering the unduly long delay in processing my order, due, I suppose, to someone's dropping the ball on this sale, I would expect the same supervisor whom you consulted with before to authoorize that I also be sent a refund check for $20.00 reflecting the *current* catalog price of $XXX.XX. That would only be fair seeing I've had to wait so long. Thank you, Pat On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:53:17 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for your inconvenience. A refund check will be sent to you for $20.00 for your inconvenience. You should receive this check in approximately 7-10 business days. You should receive the guitar also about the same time as the check. Again, I apologize for your inconvenience, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you need anything else, please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 07:58 AM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: thanks very much troy, blah blah blah blah. take care, pat On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:06:14 Service wrote: Pat, You are welcome! I do appreciate hearing from you! You should receive the guitar in the next few days. If you need anything else, please feel free to send us an email. Troy Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 08:06 AM 3/23/00 -0800, you wrote: troy, a month since I received this from you... still no guitar. what's going on? pat Fri, 24 Mar 00 04:01AM GST From: "Service" service@musiciansfriend.com Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response, and for your inconvenience. I have replaced the missing order, and it will be shipped to you soon. Here is the new order number, P1025497. Again, I apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com ...and would ya believe I STILL don't have a guitar?!? I coulda made one by now! the moral: I'm not full of it and beware of musiciansfriend.com! THIS is a nightmare! pat Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Joni on Speakeasy Excerpt I can't pull it up myself, but maybe some of you guys can....here's a link to get the interview audio (the video too?) It's about midpage. http://www.muchmoremusic.com/speakeasy/ The following are excerpts from Jana Lynne White's conversation with Joni Mitchell on Speakeasy:   Jana: A lot of people discovered jazz through Miles and Chet, Duke and Billie and Sarah, but really, honestly, my introduction to jazz was through that 1979 album of yours, "Mingus". And I wondered who awakened you to the many colours of jazz? To the colourful possibilities of jazz for your own expression?   Joni:Well, I grew up in a house that had very few records and that was typical of the time. My mother had Chopin and Brahms and she had several classical records, all Lunar Melodies: "Clair de Lune," "Moonlight Sonata," that kind of thing. And my dad was a trumpet player and a trumpet teacher, played in small town swing bands and he had Leroy Anderson and um, Harry James and that's about as jazzy as it got in the household. But I was always an artist in school and um, when I hit my teens and the beatnik thing was happening, the boys in the crowd that I danced with uh, went to New York and came back, if they could, with moustaches and striped t-shirts and berets and sandals and a lot of jazz records and one of them, Brian Anderson, wanted me to paint a mural of a jazz trio on his bedroom wall and he paid me in a jazz album. Um, also, I received a jazz album for doing a unicef christmas card for the school. Um, and I spent my own money to buy lambert, hendricks and ross, the hottest new sound in jazz, which was a jazz vocal album and that was kind of my beatles in high school. I knew every song on that record and admired it but at that time I was not a musician, i was a rock-n-roll dancer but that was what i kind of privately listened to. My active participation in music was, you know, Lindy Hop and going to public dances. Um, as my friends went onto college, and some of them prematurely -- one guy skipped a lotta grades and entered college at 15 and he used to take me to college dues and he was really a mischievous character, and anyway, there's a was a kind of partying that was happening then at the college level where people sat around and sang folk songs but nobody really played the guitar, it was considered déclassé. It was like country and western music which was low-class in the region that I grew up in, you know. So, um, my exposure to jazz was voluntary, and, you know, I was listening to folk music and jazz and rock-n-roll for three different reasons, you know, rock-n-roll for dancing, jazz for, "Oh my god, isn't that cool," you know, like, and, and um, folk music really for group song at parties. It was a different kind of partying where people would sit around, you know, instead of drinking beer and getting rowdy, they'd sit around and sing these songs and there was something exciting to me and the community in that. Do initially, I started to play guitar to be, because they needed an accompanist at these things.   Jana: Why that creative arc about love? Because I mean, let's face it, most songs are written about love but to think of it in that way. Did the idea come from you?   Joni: Yeah. Well, maybe, who knows, like -- I was working with my ex-husband, we were recently divorced for one thing, maybe that had something to do with it, um, and we had a few songs that were already on the list of we were gonna, you know, what we were gonna do: "Stormy Weather" because that's how I got introduced to singing with a big orchestra and got the appetite for it. I sang that one night with a 61 piece orchestra here in L.A. and I said, "Oh, I gotta do this again!" and Klein was musical director and Vince Mendosa was the conductor and arranger on that project. So, then my friend Paul Starr who heard me sing that night said, "You should do more of this" and brought me "You're My Thrill" and, um, "Comes Love To Do," while I was on the road with Dylan so, I worked up "Comes Love" and toured it and sang it on tour and it was my favourite part of the set in a way because i just had to stand there, i could put my guitar down. It was really fun and Dylan came up to me and said, you know, "Where'd you get that voice, that voice? you know, that's a different voice!"   Jana: You always look like you're having what almost borders on a mystical experience, but when you're really in the music, that is joy.   Joni: Oh, it is, you know, and I've been blessed, the calibre of players I've been fortunate enough to play with, even though it created a milieu which was demographically, uh, unslottable, you know. For all my whining and complaining, which because it's in me and it does appear here and there, you know, the things that were extraordinary was the collaboration with great musicians and um, and touching experiences with people who really got the music. The frustration with the business has been difficult and uh, you know, priorities of the exploiters, but that's the way art has always been. it's always been painful where art meets commerce.   Jana: Are there other Canadian attributes that have served you well? That you know about? Because we're always busy trying, struggling with this, like, "what is it to be a Canadian?"   Joni: Oh, that's uh -- I wish we would drop all of that, you know, and just be, you know. Canada's always struggling to define itself, um, when if it would just quit it, it would be you know, because it just creates a chip, you know, because it's comparison, you know. what is it that "Desiderata" says? You know, don't compare yourself to others lest you become vain and bitter, you know. Canadians constantly in their search for their identity comparing themselves to others and either coming up short or going, "We're better than them at something! We have one now!" Um, I heard something on the CBC years ago where the commentator was claiming Jack The Ripper as a Canadian and I thought, "oh, that's it." You know, like, so desperate are they for celebrity that they say, "He was a Canadian you know!"   Jana: In all the accolades that have been handed to you in the past few years, finally, for some of them, rock-n-roll hall of fame, billboard century award, juno, uh, the list goes on, do they mean something to you?   Joni: Frankly, most of them rang really hollow. Um, in that it felt to me that if you were correctly honoured, it would humble you, you know. Um, the instances when i felt truly honoured, there was a natural humility, whereas, if you're improperly honoured, you become arrogant, right. Most of them made me arrogant, so I, you know -- when people come up and genuinely love the work, it's a humbling experience for me, you know. But uh, a lot of the awards felt like a copycat crime, like it was felt that it was the right thing to do but they weren't quite sure why. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:45:42 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: NYC tickets? hi everyone -- i think i saw on the JM site that tickets for the MSG 5/22 show go on sale on Monday, April 3. but then i couldn't find any more info on either the ticketmaster site or on the madison square garden site. anyone have more info? i'm so nervous about being able to grab tickets -- and jealous and happy for those of you who are already holding them for other shows! - -- emily ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:57:02 PST From: "David" Subject: BSN Thank You's Im sure this has already been discussed, but I don't remember it so I though i'd mention it just in case. Did everyone notice that Wally Breese was mention on the thank you's of BSN? I thought that was a very nice gesture that Wally would have really liked. Anyways as im probably wasting everyones time, as this has probably been discussed, Ill say good day sir. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:08:52 EST From: GREYC1@aol.com Subject: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance Is it just me or does anyone else think that Queen Latifah has an amazing voice for singing the "standards"? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:12:55 EST From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Morning Morgantown Does anyone know to which Morgantown Joni is referring? Thanks! Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:30:49 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Best of the Best IYHO - --- Marian wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:17:28 -0700 "Alison Einerson" > wrote: > > > Just wanted to say a big "Thanks" to everyone > > who threw out their ideas and opinions on > > what to play during my Joni special...I did > > it this morning and it went really well. > > What songs did you play? > > > I more than doubled my dollar goal I'd be curious to know which songs brought in the most pledges - did you happen to track that? ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:14:43 -0800 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance Yes, I thought she was fantastic!!!! ============================================================= "I see the blue pools in the squinting sun and the hissing of summer lawns."--Joni Mitchell, 1975 Mike Friedman, San Francisco, CA, USA http://63.192.218.181 > From: GREYC1@aol.com > Reply-To: GREYC1@aol.com > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:08:52 -0500 (EST) > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Burt Bacharach's Oscar Performance > > Is it just me or does anyone else think that Queen Latifah has an amazing > voice for > singing the "standards"? > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:16:04 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign I just found out about this and I thought it would cheer some of you folks up about (the usually poor) advertising behind Joni's stuff. Make sure to visit the Tower Records store in your area and check out the online store. Tower Memo Tower Records is joining Warner Bros and TNT to salute Joni Mitchell. TNT has put together an extensive 1 Million Dolar ad campaign to support Joni. There will be a new Joni release 3/21 and a major TNT television program in conjunction with this campaign. Please read ALL of the advertising carefully and let's do everything possible to make this promotion a huge success. Here are the specifics... Product on Sale Joni Mitchell "Both Sides Now" $13.99 CD Sale Dates 3/21 - 4/24 Joni Mitchell "Both Sides Now" 4/5 - 4/25 Joni Mitchell Catalog Product Postioning 3/21 - 4/5 Joni Mitchel "Both Sides Now" (end rack 1A @ 2 facings) CD OVER & BINS (please create generic leader card for this) 4/5 - 4/24 Joni Mitchell New Release and catalog in Best Available Rack for Display Contest Display Contest 4/5-24 Criteria 1. Feature entire Joni catalog from WEA in Best Available Rack. 2. Enhance end rack with TNT Joni Mitchell poster and additional merch materials (18x24 posters and flats) provided by WEA sales reps. 3. The new release "Both Sides Now" must be the predominant title in the end rack. TNT must be incorporated into the display (their logo and TV show air dates). *ADVERTISING* Here is a list of the extensive advertising that Tower will receive for this promotion 4/4-16 Warner Brothers Studio Store outdoor board 4/3-28 Soho outdoor board 4/24 issue People Magazine (full page/4 color ad) 4/16 issue TV Guide 4/16 issue Sunday TV supplements 4/14 issue USA Today 4/2 NY Times (full page ad in Arts and Leisure) 4/16 NY Times Sunday Magazine 4/10 Cable Trades (full page 4/color) TBD Billboard/Daily Variety (full page spread) TBD Wild Postings TBD Tags in all Press Release and collateral materials 4/5- Radio Spots in NY, LA, Chicago, Philly, S.F., Boston, D.C., Atlanta TBD Varies daily and weekly print ad tags Online This is exciting! Tower Online will work in conjunction with TNT to hold an "Enhanced Television Viewing Event". What this means is that when the customer is watching the Joni Mitchell TV special, web surfers can explore the behind the scenes aspects of the show, get additional information on the artists performing and buy CDs from Tower online direct from this event. TV SHOW AIRDATE=SUNDAY, APRIL 16 9PM ET/PT ON TNT Merchandising Materials You will be receving P.O.P. kits from TNT directly to your stores. Have fun with the displays. Also, TNT is making T-shirts (see your WEA rep for details). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:27:13 EST From: Chilihead2@aol.com Subject: Need tickets for the CT show? Hi, The JMDL's Heather aka luvart@snet.net, has asked me to post this since her pc is down. She is offering to pick up tickets at the box office for JMDLers who need tickets to the May 27th show at the Oakdale in Wallingford, Connecticut . Tickets for that venue go on sale April 10th. The website is www.oakdale.com If you're interested please contact Heather at gallihe@ccsu.edu . - -Chili ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:23:12 -0500 From: Sally Pont Subject: RE: Morning Morgantown I have never thought of this as a literal place, but rather as an idealization of morning and newness. "Morgen" is German for "morning," and I have always assumed Joni knew that and created the name for this magical place as a result. Joni invented other words the Siquomb and Sisotowbell; I think Joni's Morgantown as being similar to Sisotowbell Lane: a Joni world. Sally - -----Original Message----- From: TanyerSCO@aol.com [SMTP:TanyerSCO@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:13 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Morning Morgantown Does anyone know to which Morgantown Joni is referring? Thanks! Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:28:37 -0500 From: "lpeakes" Subject: Re: This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign Thanks, MP - juicy post!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:32:06 +0200 From: "John van Tiel" Subject: Re: BSN reviewed in Holland Misspelled??? Dutch treat??? Thou art a jester, gadzooks!!! You need a good talking to by a Dutch uncle, my lad! And tell me all about that liberal university you have down there in SC. But seriously, if you want me to be your European subsidiary for the covers project, just let me know. I have the equipment, an I can always make the time. From one music slut to another. Vriendelijke groeten, John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Pic of Joni & some info Laura wrote: > http://www.livedaily.com/tickets/today.html Following one of the Joni links there brought me to a Herbie Hancock article from Feb 9, 2000 which ended: " Hancock’s video shoot at the Great Western Forum in Los Angeles was only a ripple in his continuing career. The 59-year-old pianist appears on Joni Mitchell's upcoming collection of standards, ''Both Sides Now'' (Warner) set for release March 21. Hancock's accompaniment on two tracks returns the favor for Mitchell's vocal work on 1998's ''Gershwin's World,'' which earned three Grammy awards. Hancock will return to the studio in the spring, according to his management, to begin work on his next project, an electric pop album set for release on Transparent Music, the imprint Hancock co-owns with manager/producer David Passick and former Verve president Chuck Mitchell. " Is *this* Chuck Mitchell *Joni's* Chuck Mitchell ??? Brian np: NPR ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:48:38 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: bsn > I'll bet River gets the treatment on the sequel > anyway... > > Bob > I don't know ... Joni's given my line-up for the third installment the "dour" label in her latest interview - -- and she's been knocking about the house singing something under her breath that sounds like 'Waltzing Harlequin' ... not sure what that's all about. I'll keep you posted. Larry Klein ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:14:52 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Rosemont Tickets Laura, the wonderful one of Chicago, just emailed me that she got a ticket for me for the Rosemont concert, after quite a struggle with the ticket office (and being from Chicago, why am I not surprised at a box office with attitude?). So, everyone, I must pause in my day to offer thanks and praise to Laura, to whom I am greatly indebted! Laura, thank you, bless you, and for the first time time ever I will give the office JMDL salute: WhoooooooooooooooooHooooooooooooooooooooo! I've got a ticket to see Joni in Chicago and will sit with Laura and Jody! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:20:09 -0600 From: dave fairall / beth miller Subject: JONI IN COLUMBIA MD. Successfully ordered 6 tics online today at 10:00, {when they officially went on sale - Ticketmaster-} for the May 25'th show in Columbia Md @ $92.11 per, due to the exorbitant "convenience charge"...........ouch!! I know it's a once in a lifetime event, but that's ridiculous. We're psyched, although my wife is prego, and due.... guess when.... late May. Dave Fairall Baltimore Md. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:01:12 -0800 From: Ken Corral Subject: Re: Magnolia and Aimee Mann Ken in SF Wrote: >I, too, find it hard to believe that aimee was overlooked in order to honor >Phil Collins. >Furthermore, I've heard Aimee publicly disparage Phil Collins in particular >when lamenting what the masses consider "Good Ballad Writing". Someday, >Aimee will be properly appreciated. >Ken in SF Actually guys, think about it, given what the Academy Awards are (and I like 'em as much as the next guy), its better that she DIDN'T win. Ken in L.A. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:25:14 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: This Just In-Joni Ad Campaign Paz writes: << I just found out about this and I thought it would cheer some of you folks up about (the usually poor) advertising behind Joni's stuff. 4/24 issue People Magazine (full page/4 color ad) >> Thanks for the info Michael, I just looked at the April 3rd issure of People Magazine, and there's a full page ad of Joni. GREAT!!!! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:38:39 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: [none] From: "kerry" Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:39:27 -0600 Hi! As I said previously, I'm new to this list and relatively new to the Internet. I'm so happy that because of "Joni.com," I found out about the concert in Chicago. I missed her last tour with Dylan because I live in Milwaukee and we are sometimes "out of the loop" when it comes to Chicago events. (pun intended). I am now ecstatic because I have tickets for the Chicago concert. I will be going with my sister who first got my into Joni's music (she was 24 and I was 14) and her daughters (18 & 16) Practically 3 generations! I'm just in awe because I saw her in 1979 and the tickets were $10.50! My big question is, does anyone else feel totally overwhelmed by all the Joni media coverage, the web sites, the discussion list itself? For so long, I never heard anything in the press about her and hardly knew any people that were fans, let alone all the new artists who cite her as an influence. I guess I just felt like she was my private little "find" and got used to feeling that way. I even took a trip with a friend to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame basically to see what they had about her. (The rest of it was cool, too) Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else shared the same feelings.....I'm sure I will adjust, because it's all very interesting. Thanks, Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:35:32 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Rosemont Tickets Everyone addressed and Scott and Jody, Wolfebite@aol.com wrote: > > > i know it's weeks and weeks away- but i hope we all can do dinner (plus > anyone else that's coming)... i'll do some more investigating- with the > convention center right there, there are a bunch of restaurants within > walking distance. preference to dine before or after? i'm willing to make a > night of it. > > doug It works out that I will be in Chicago the Saturday and Sunday prior (May 27 and 28) because I will be at Comiskey Park... so I'll be staying in Chicago rather than come home on the 29th amd go back on the 30th, and take in the Titanic and the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibits, so for me, just as easy to eat ahead of time and I can only say: pizza. One cannot get pizza in Michigan. Wooooohoooo... I may actually have a life this year! (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:50:38 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Morning Morgantown Everyone I know from Morgantown, West Virginia swears the song is about Morgantown, West Virginia. But what do I know? (the Rev) Vince Sally Pont wrote: > I have never thought of this as a literal place, but rather as an idealization of morning and newness. "Morgen" is German for "morning," and I have always assumed Joni knew that and created the name for this magical place as a result. Joni invented other words the Siquomb and Sisotowbell; I think Joni's Morgantown as being similar to Sisotowbell Lane: a Joni world. > > Sally > > -----Original Message----- > From: TanyerSCO@aol.com [SMTP:TanyerSCO@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:13 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Morning Morgantown > > Does anyone know to which Morgantown Joni is referring? > > Thanks! > Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:52:58 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Kerry's post << My big question is, does anyone else feel totally overwhelmed by all the Joni media coverage, the web sites, the discussion list itself? >> Firstly Kerry, welcome to the group...It's certainly a busy time here with all the Joni activity...at times we've got to try and stir up conversation about Joni but these days it's been mostly monitoring all the information and media! I can't quite get over all the promotion and attention she's getting these days, and I love it! Overwhelmed? I don't think I'm there yet, but I'm working on it! :~) << For so long, I never heard anything in the press about her and hardly knew any people that were fans, let alone all the new artists who cite her as an influence. I guess I just felt like she was my private little "find" and got used to feeling that way. >> And here you find out that the world is a little smaller, and all of a sudden there are literally hundreds of people who want to talk you about Joni's legacy of work and what it has meant and is continuing to mean in their lives! It's pretty cool indeed. Bob NP: Dave Van Ronk, "That Song About the Midway" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:18:25 +0100 From: "catman" Subject: Re: - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bounced Message" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 2:38 AM > From: "kerry" > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:39:27 -0600 > > > My big question is, does anyone else feel totally overwhelmed by all the > Joni media coverage, the web sites, the discussion list itself? For so > long, I never heard anything in the press about her and hardly knew any > people that were fans, let alone all the new artists who cite her as an > influence. I guess I just felt like she was my private little "find" > and got used to feeling that way. I even took a trip with a friend to > the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame basically to see what they had about her. > (The rest of it was cool, too) Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone > else shared the same feelings.....I'm sure I will adjust, because it's > all very interesting. > > Thanks, > Kerry > Until I got a pc and got on the net I had never come across another Joni nor a Carly fan. I love this list. Having said that, i have lost the majic I had in my adoration of both. The fantasy has gone. The bubble has burst. (in the case of carly I found her fans I 'met' elsewhere on the net, to be appalling, nasty people-that was a real shock and made me wonder about how I could love someone who attracts such people!!!) Until the net I barely knew anything about Joni or Carly. I think I read one RS article about Carly and nothing about Joni. Now I know quit a lot and met hundreds of others who share my passion. I am almost disappointed that the majic has now gone. In the old days, when searching thru a record store and coming across a new Joni or new Carly, I would literally start to tremble and sweat and my hands would shake and my heart pound. I remember once I thought I would faint. I guess before, they were just figments of my imagination and now they are fallible, ordinary human beings, like the rest of us. They just happen to be talented in a way i appreciate. Mind you, my attitude to much has changed all in the same time period-I think probably because I experienced a deep grief and that truly chnages the way one experiences the world and ones attitude to it. I guess the loss of the majic has to do with both. Although I think it best not to have anyone on a pedastool, I miss the childish fantasy of it. Even the Oscars holds no thrill for me-it is fantasy and quite meaningless! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:35:10 EST From: TanyerSCO@aol.com Subject: Tribute Tickets Hi Everyone! I'm really writing a lot more than I thought I would. I must share this news . . . I took it upon myself to call the Hammerstein Ballroom since the Ticketmaster people knew nothing about tickets. The woman at the Hammerstein Ballroom Box Office said she was nearly positive that only a small amount of tickets would be available on March 30th. She said I should call back tomorrow, so I will and I'll give you the update! I'm dying to go to this . . . wish me luck getting tickets. xoxo Tanya ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 00:32:46 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Got my ticket for E-Center In a message dated 3/27/2000 11:09:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, BrianGross@rocketmail.com writes: << My ticket is IN THE PIT IN THE SECOND ROW WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!! (that was my best Catgirl imitation) Those of you going to that show, contact me so we can co-ordinate our pre- and post-show activities. Later, >> Hey Hey!! I got my tix too. I ordered them on the phone. I got left side, 104, Row G, seats 5 and 6. I will sell them if a certian friend can get the ones we want!!! (hint, hint, say no more, say no more.....) I am in the first row but behind the handicapable section. They are pretty good seats but I would love to get better. Brian, how many tix did you get? Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:47:53 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: I'm still here! I'm still here if you need me. And I think I can find a sweet sounding guitar for you to play so far away.... Michael Pat wrote: "hi all, recently someone mentioned nightmares so I thought I'd share mine... (I dreamed?:) there I was onlist trying to share what I could recall of when Joni taught me some songs way back and really trying to relate with some of the better musicians onlist who had worked out tabs for these songs that didn't work for me and so I decided to get a guitar to see if I could work thises things out with the help of my hands' memories. since none of my friends have one and this was like 3 months ago or more. *takes a breath* well, in my dream some people from the list were really helpful and I probably could/should have acquired my guitar through one of them but no, I decided to go online and order a guitar from musiciansfriend.com... in the meantime I have suddenly become way too busy to participate in the list as I once did and so, since no one is hearing from me, some of my good friends begin to really wonder if I'm just some big bag of hot air and bullshit as my silence continues... sudd! enly it dawns on me that I'm NOT dreaming and that this nightmare is real! now for the other side of the story...: (watch the dates) (NOTE: this is after several weeks of negotiating by email to get the order straight and passing off another sales person on to this 'troy', a manager...) On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 14:30:45 Service wrote: Hello, Thank you for your email. Our mailing address for orders is: Musicians Friend P.O. Box 4520 Medford, Oregon 97504 Thanks again, Customer Service At 07:03 PM 12/20/99 -0800, you wrote: hi again, my money order should be arriving there any day now with the shipping addresses (PO Box and street address) and it occurred to me that, since I work during the day, the shipper may want to call me to arrange delivery. my daytime phone # is (XXX) XXX-XXXX and my home address for weekends and evenings is (XXX) XXX-XXXX. again, thank you for all your help. pat On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 15:47:50 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response. Unfortunately, US Postal Service, is the only way we ship packages to Guam. Due to this, I am not sure that you will be contacted for delivery schedule. Again, I apologize for all the inconvenience this has caused you, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:12:12 Service wrote: At 08:25 AM 1/13/00 -0800, you wrote: hi, it's me again... I sent my money order in a couple weeks ago and just wanted to check if it was received and my guitar sent out. could you verify this for me please? thanks, pat ON 1/10/00 Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response. We have received and processed your order on 1/7/00. Unfortunately your order of the Sigma guitar is currently out of stock and we have 1/18/00 as the expected date of arrival. This date is tentative and is subject to change without notice from the manufacturer. As soon as we receive more shipment of the item, we will ship the item to you. Again, I apologize for all the inconveniences this has caused you, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 02:19 AM 2/18/00 -0800, you wrote: hey troy! what's up with this guitar?!? we had this interaction a month ago and the tb1 was supposed to be in stock within days. do I have an order tracking #? an insurance #? has it been sent out? please help me. pat On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:06:14 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. Your order was shipped today, February 21, via US Postal Service. Normal delivery time for packages sent via this method is approximately 7-10 business days. You should receive the package soon. If you have other questions or comments please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 11:37 AM 2/22/00 -0800, you wrote: Troy, Thanks for letting me know. Per our previous negotiations and considering the unduly long delay in processing my order, due, I suppose, to someone's dropping the ball on this sale, I would expect the same supervisor whom you consulted with before to authoorize that I also be sent a refund check for $20.00 reflecting the *current* catalog price of $XXX.XX. That would only be fair seeing I've had to wait so long. Thank you, Pat On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:53:17 Service wrote: Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for your inconvenience. A refund check will be sent to you for $20.00 for your inconvenience. You should receive this check in approximately 7-10 business days. You should receive the guitar also about the same time as the check. Again, I apologize for your inconvenience, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you need anything else, please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 07:58 AM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: thanks very much troy, blah blah blah blah. take care, pat On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:06:14 Service wrote: Pat, You are welcome! I do appreciate hearing from you! You should receive the guitar in the next few days. If you need anything else, please feel free to send us an email. Troy Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com At 08:06 AM 3/23/00 -0800, you wrote: troy, a month since I received this from you... still no guitar. what's going on? pat Fri, 24 Mar 00 04:01AM GST From: "Service" service@musiciansfriend.com Pat, Thank you for your email. I apologize for the delay of response, and for your inconvenience. I have replaced the missing order, and it will be shipped to you soon. Here is the new order number, P1025497. Again, I apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for your patience and understanding. If you have other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. Troy M. Internet Customer Service service@musiciansfriend.com ...and would ya believe I STILL don't have a guitar?!? I coulda made one by now! the moral: I'm not full of it and beware of musiciansfriend.com! THIS is a nightmare! pat" ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #113 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?