From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #107 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, March 23 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 107 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni in Florida [MP123A321@aol.com] Re: Paved Paradise [Gertus@aol.com] Re: Joni in Florida [FMYFL@aol.com] Joni Mitchell is NEWS today @Rolling Stone.com [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #148 [PPeterson4@aol.com] Re: Joni in Florida [Phyliss Ward ] gotcha! [Kate ] Re: Joni in Florida (SJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Joni in Florida (SJC) [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Joni Mitchell is NEWS today @Rolling Stone.com [zapuppy2@webtv.net (P] Re:Joni Lyric References ["Stephen M. Rapp" ] David Blue [M.D.Quinn@shu.ac.uk (Mike QUINN\(CMS\))] VG-8 patches [Susan McNamara ] Re: L.A. Tickets [AngelinoCoyote@aol.com] Chaka Added To Tribute [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] BSN review in US Weekly [Brian Gross ] Re: Chaka Added To Tribute [Don Rowe ] What's Goin' on at TNT? [Don Rowe ] Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas ["Reuben Bell" ] Bay Area Tickets [KJHSF@aol.com] Fwd: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas [Wolfebite@aol.com] tickets for S. FL show [Bounced Message ] Re: Best of the Best IYHO [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas [SMEBD@aol.com] Re: tickets for S. FL show [SMEBD@aol.com] Los Angeles Here I Come ["Michael Paz" ] Re: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Los Angeles Here I Come [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Bay Area Tickets ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Bay Area Tickets [MGVal@aol.com] Speakeasy with Joni ["susan+rick" ] Re: ticket prices (SJC) [AsharaJM@aol.com] Joni interview in Rolling Stone [Relayer211@aol.com] Speakeasy with Joni ["susan+rick" ] Re: Los Angeles Here I Come ["Kakki" ] FL ticket prices [FMYFL@aol.com] A few NEW Joni & BSN tidbits [mann@chicagonet.net] Joni Mitchell is NEWS today @VH-1 [mann@chicagonet.net] Back on the list ["steve julty" ] Re: Joni interview in Rolling Stone ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Chicago [diana ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:12:54 EST From: MP123A321@aol.com Subject: Joni in Florida About Joni in Florida. Jimmy's recent post makes me wonder. Does anyone know the date and venue Joni last played Florida. I cannot ever recall hearing anything mid state. Looks like I may have to go to W. Palm...a long drive but not as bad as Atlanta....time to start convincing my wife. Thanks Jimmy for the research. Maurice.........<< The ticket info should be on their website tomorrow, possibly tonight. I'll let yall know if I find out any further info Yippee, Joni in the sunshine state!!!! Jimmy >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:58:15 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Paved Paradise Mike wrote:- From: M.D.Quinn@shu.ac.uk (Mike QUINN\(CMS\)) >>>While I patiently wait for my copy of the Joni Mitchell Companion to wend its way over to the UK, I happened to notice on the web a 1998 book called "Paved Paradise" by Paul Barrera. It appears to be a review of Joni's work plus biographical details. Has anyone read it or know anything about it? Apologies if this has been discussed at length before I joined JMDL.<<<< Hi Mike, I bought "Paved Paradise" a couple of months ago. It's worth buying because it's cheap and it's 100% Joni material, but as usual, there are plenty of inaccuracies. I have to say, the cover is awful. The book is a track by track analysis of Joni's work right up to TTT by a fan and the guy should be applauded for his efforts. It's a worthwhile read provided you take into account a paragraph from the author's introduction which includes the sentence "I make no apologies for my views in this book, I repeat that they are all given with an honesty which may be at odds with your ideas." He goes on to say that if he makes you listen to a couple of Joni tracks again then he will have achieved his objective. I hope you buy it and enjoy it. If you do, let me know what you think. Regards, Jacky PS Which great academic institution is "shu"? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:24:38 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in Florida Julian asks: << Does anyone know the date and venue Joni last played Florida. I cannot ever recall hearing anything mid state. >> Good question Julian, and I'd like to know too! I know she played in Coconut Grove (Miami) back when she and Crosby met, but I don't know of anything since. She was suppose to play in Ft. Lauderdale and Orlando on her '98 tour, but cancelled at the last moment :( Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:48:31 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Joni Mitchell is NEWS today @Rolling Stone.com Nice to see this subject in my email box this morning: "Slipknot, Hendrix, Joni and more" Rolling Stone Daily http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/home/text/default.asp Scroll down the page to NEWS and click on JONI MITCHELL TO TAKE BOTH SIDES NOW ON THE ROAD to see an article about her tour There's also a question of the day you can answer and leave feedback: "Would you rather hear Joni Mitchell perform covers or her own songs?" Let's flood them with answers!! Laura :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:24:11 EST From: PPeterson4@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #148 OK everybody. Let's get real about ticket and cd prices. I love JM's music as much as anyone, but the fact is that the release of BSN in an advance "collectors edition" at $40 a pop is plain and simple a greedy rip off of her most devoted fans, the ones who absolutely must have a copy of her new work as soon as it becomes available. When I read about this marketing scam, it really depressed me. The fact that so many of the "collectors" cd's turned out to be defective makes one believe in karma. Considering that the concerts include a full orchestra, the price scale is somewhat understandable. But let's hope some of the money goes into great live sound, as opposed to the shameful sonics on the Dylan/JM dates last year. Disillusioned-but-still-listening ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:44:57 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Joni in Florida I saw Joni in Jacksonville when I was attending college in Gainesville. I think it might have been 1974 or 75. Jerry, do I remember you saying you were there too? My husband used to go to the Gaslight in Coconut Grove around the time Joni played there and met Crosby. He doesn't remember seeing her so he probably didn't, who could forget. Well, maybe in his drug-induced state...I was too young at the time to be going there although I did go in later years. Coconut Grove was THE hippy hangout in those days. Now it's more yuppy, but still nice. Phyliss, who was born and raised in Miami. FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > Julian asks: > > << Does anyone know > the date and venue Joni last played Florida. I cannot ever recall hearing > anything mid state. >> > > Good question Julian, and I'd like to know too! I know she played in Coconut > Grove (Miami) back when she and Crosby met, but I don't know of anything > since. She was suppose to play in Ft. Lauderdale and Orlando on her '98 > tour, but cancelled at the last moment :( > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:52:14 -0700 From: Kate Subject: gotcha! >Evian: LOL Penny, if she EVER played a date in Saskatoon, I swear I'd run >through the downtown stark naked with "I love Shania Twain" painted on >my chest, and "Tom Arnold is my Hero" painted on my back... Needless to say, I will not forget this promise, big fella! Have started making my plans to attend the exhibit opening on June 30. Will you be there? Of course you will. Anyone else coming? I figure I can't pass up a chance to meet the great lady, considering her music has been in the musical foreground of my life for the last 26 years. I'd like the opportunity to tell her what it has meant to me. I will probably take my 11-year-old son, Emil, along, as he is also a big fan of hers and has been since he was two or three. I know I will soon regret telling him though, because he will question me relentlessly between now and then. Don't know how he'll fare in the crowd, as he uses elbow-crutches to walk (cerebral palsy), but am pretty sure he will make a beeline for Joni if he recognizes her. He is very direct. Kate of the North http://www.connect.ab.ca/~katej/auntkate/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:31:41 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in Florida (SJC) Phyliss wrote: << I saw Joni in Jacksonville when I was attending college in Gainesville. I think it might have been 1974 or 75. >> Phyliss, I started college in Gainesville (UF) back in '74 - '75, but I didn't become a Joni fan until 1976 so I don't remember her playing in Jax. We may have known each other or gone out on a date. I was straight back then. lol Go Gators! Jimmy, about to leave for a RedSox - Reds baseball game on this beautiful sunny day ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:49:39 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Joni in Florida (SJC) Jimmy wrote: > Phyliss, I started college in Gainesville (UF) back in '74 - '75, but I > didn't become a Joni fan until 1976 so I don't remember her playing in Jax. > We may have known each other or gone out on a date. I was straight back then. > lol > Go Gators very funny! ; - ) I had a steady guy the whole college years so I don't think so... But I was there from Jan 74 through August 76. I was an Art major for a few quarters then I turned Aggie, go figure. I'm back doing Art now, thank god. I was more into the Hogtown Coop than the Gators - my hippy years 'ya know. Phyliss Golden Fig Ceramics ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 07:58:36 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell is NEWS today @Rolling Stone.com Joni is in the news on VH-1's website also: http://www.vh1.com/thewire/news/03_21_00/joni.jhtml This one includes the bit that Joni plans to do the Christmas album *this* year. And yet another mention that she might add dates to this tour. (Oh Evian, don't quit smoking yet. You would gain 25 very sightly lbs, but be faster from not having to catch your breath for your streak through the streets. I can see it now. Naked, painted and bent over panting. ;-D) And I can't remember if this article tells us that Joni is also scheduled to perform at her Tribute taping April 6....I read it somewhere today. Going into Joni info overload. But happily! ;-) Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:18:57 -0700 From: "Stephen M. Rapp" Subject: Re:Joni Lyric References This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------A8F98A7978E266C0919CC02B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wondering if I can put a question to some of you Joni-philes. Where are the reference origins to the the lyrics, "Moon at the Window" and "Lakota?" I've seen them both but failed to note it. Moon comes from I believe a Chinese Poem and the line, "pity me,' comes from a Lakota prayer. Can anyone pin-point them for me. Second: In the early 70's I read and interview w/ Joni in, what I remember was, a Whole Earth Quarterly. She spoke of her reference to a teacher she honors on Song to a Seagull liner notes. And her study of Carl G. Jung. Anyone have or remember the interview? Thanks Stephen - --------------A8F98A7978E266C0919CC02B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="footpath.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen M. Rapp Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="footpath.vcf" begin:vcard n:Rapp;Stephen tel;cell:801-636-1855 tel;home:801-756-1096 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;112 So. Main Street;Alpine;UT;84004; version:2.1 email;internet:footpath@enol.com x-mozilla-cpt:;3 fn:Stephen Rapp Film Project end:vcard - --------------A8F98A7978E266C0919CC02B-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:28:16 +0000 From: M.D.Quinn@shu.ac.uk (Mike QUINN\(CMS\)) Subject: David Blue Logged in the far recesses of my mind there was a connection between David Blue and Blue the song, but I could not recall who planted it there. Then looking through old cuttings I found a copy of the Sunday Times magazine from 1983 with an article on Joni. Here is an extract by the author Michael Watts: "We met in the Sunset Boulevard office of her manager Elliot Roberts, a droll Bronx humorist who, after consenting to an interview, shouted to his secretary,'Start the clock, Mary!'. The choice of day was ironic, for that very morning there had been a funeral service for an old folksinger friend, David Blue, who is enshrined in her mythology as the inspiration for her album Blue. Blue's real name was Cohen, and his death was not romantic: from a heart attack, at 41, while jogging. Roberts explained, with rising incredulity, that his ashes were to be laid to rest in Laurel Canyon. At this Mitchell clapped her hands, suddenly gripped by an idea. They would put the ashes in a friend's yard and plant a bush there. 'Jooan!' Roberts wailed. 'Fertiliser! Is that what he ended up being? Mulch?' 'I wouldn't mind being fertiliser for a rosebush or somethin'', she protested; and added, with a hint of reproof, 'bear that in mind, Elliot.' " Now I remember reading that article 17 years ago and part of it stuck in my mind. But wait, tucked away further on in the same article is the following: "Journalism often misrepresented her, she said. There were even men who thought, quite wrongly, that she had written about them. She promptly scotched the legend that 'Blue' had been about David Blue. And other torch bearers turned out to be mere spear-carriers" So perhaps there is the truth. Certainly the article gave more emphasis to the legend than her denial of it. And it was the myth I vaguely remembered. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:52:56 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: VG-8 patches Hi Gang: This is Joni technically related so continue skimming or deleting if synthesized guitars are not what you are looking for!! :-) This is a request for anyone who is willing to contribute to the VG-8 page I am setting up on the JMDL guitar site. What I am interested in is patches or techniques that you think other Vg-8ers would be interested in. I am already linking to the V-Guitar Online site, so basically I'm looking for Joni-related Vg-8 stuff. Also since I am technically deficient and don't own a VG-8 myself, I would like to know of anyone who is willing to offer their services as the JMDL VG-8 expert and would be willing to field questions from our constituency (which I like to describe as Joni lovers worldwide). Thanks for your input -- sue ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:02:02 EST From: AngelinoCoyote@aol.com Subject: Re: L.A. Tickets GreyC1 Wrote: Did those who purchased LA tickets do so by subscribing to one of the 2 "plans" that the Greek Theater is offering at this time? I called yesterday to purchase tickets for Joni and was told that the only way to get tickets at this time was to choose one of the plans they offer (4 or 6 different concerts purchased at once). Coyote Responds: Yep, a few of us, that I am aware of, did buy the 4 series option. Here is an email I received back from the Greek: *Tickets are filled in this order: Premiere Club Pick 6 subscribers; Premiere Club Limited subscribers; Single show orders. So you will be ahead of your friend who ordered just Joni tickets. BTW, when you arrive at the Greek for Joni you can go to the Box Office and ask about upgrading your seats if you are unhappy with the tickets you receive. Enjoy the show!* No regrets, Coyote Casa Alegre Hollywood I'll be dancing on a pony keg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:10:18 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Chaka Added To Tribute Geez, I hope some of you NYC JMDLers will have a chance to get into this! We'll refer to it as PWWAM East. ;-) This update was found today on the Billboard site: Stars Set For Joni Mitchell Tribute Elton John, Diana Krall, Shawn Colvin, Richard Thompson, Wynonna Judd, Chaka Khan, k.d. lang, and Cassandra Wilson will honor Joni Mitchell in "An All-Star Tribute To Joni Mitchell," according to The Hollywood Reporter. Mitchell, a four-time Grammy winner, will also perform in the show, which will tape April 6 at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York and is scheduled to air on TNT April 16. Judd's sister, actress Ashley Judd, will host the event. Special guests, as well as additional performers, have yet to be announced. In other Mitchell news, the artist will mount a 12-date orchestral tour in support of her new Warner Bros. album of standards, "Both Sides Now." The jaunt will kick off May 12 in Los Angeles and conclude June 2 in Philadelphia. "Both Sides Now" is the first in a trilogy Mitchell and producer Larry Klein have planned. The next project will feature Mitchell's music in a symphonic setting. "You know, it will be stuff like ["Judgement Of The Moon And Stars (Ludwig's Tune)"]," from 1972's "For The Roses." I had to do it low budget with just one violin player originally," she told Billboard's Melinda Newman in February. "So it would be a thrill to take material and orchestrate it for a big orchestra." Mitchell calls the third album "Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas." "It will include four of my 'something bad always happens to me on Christmas' songs, four secular Christmas songs, and four carols. I want to make a play out of it," she said. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:19:43 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: BSN review in US Weekly In the 3/27/00 issue of US Weekly, on page 65, Karen Schoemer gives Both Sides Now a FOUR STAR review, as follows: Any singer who coins terms like "Turbulent indigo" and compares herself to Picasso doesn't need help taking herself more seriously. But Both Sides Now, Joni Mitchell's twentieth album in 32 years, is unexpectedly down-to-earth - even though she's hanging out with the London Symphony Orchestra and singing some of the greatest pop standards of the twentieth century. Both Sides Now is no easy-listening trip down Harry Connick Jr lane; it's an unflinching assessment of love's ins and outs, with Mitchell luxuriating in such classics as "Stormy Weather" and "I Wish I Were In Love Again." Her voice, that famous silvery trill, has roughened into a smoky husk. Yet she uses it well: Her main points of reference seem to be late-period Billie Holiday and Nina Simone, two singers she can now match almost note for note. Mitchell occasionally lets her ego loose; she's decided that two of her own compositions, "Both Sides Now" and "A Case of You," belong in this esteemed canon. But overall, the album achieves a sense of self-revelation, not self importance. Not since Marianne Faithfull went cabaret has a rocker invested herself so brilliantly in the music of another era. Listening to Both Sides Now, you won't just take Mitchell seriously - you'll take her to heart all over again. (in bold at bottom) Don't call her a hippie. Mitchell proves she can sing classy standards with the best. There is a black and white picture above the review of a fifty-ish Joni playing an acoustic guitar, with Front Side Now inset into the corner and the caption "Out of The Blue: Mitchell adapts the classics" Brian np: Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:22:14 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Chaka Added To Tribute > This update was found today on the Billboard site: > Stars Set For Joni Mitchell Tribute > Richard Thompson THERE IS A GOD!THERE IS A GOD!THERE IS A GOD! I'll be taping on Hi-Fi VHS from Sony DSS and transferring to CDR. I'll keep you posted ... and just in case you hadn't heard: THERE IS A GOD! Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:12:36 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: What's Goin' on at TNT? I'm completely jazzed about the upcoming tribute concert -- but airing on TNT? Can this be the same channel that alternates between "Jaws" and "The Shawshank Redemption" almost constantly? The same channel that brings you WCW Thursday Nitro (that's a pro wrestling two-hour gig, for all you highbrows out there!) ;-) The same channel that saw fit to colorize "Casablanca"? What the hell is going on ... not that there's anything wrong with that! ;-) Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:17:30 PST From: "Reuben Bell" Subject: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas I love Joni...she has such a strange attitude sometimes. Which four songs will be included in this Christmas album? I can only think of "River", and "Facelift" (I know I could come up with the other two, but I AM supposed to be working...) Cyndi Lauper did a great Christmas album a couple of years ago called "Merry Christmas...Have A Nice Life". Good mix of fun and traditional. She has one of the truly great voices in pop music. Reuben >Mitchell calls the third album "Have Yourself A Dreary Little >Christmas." "It will include four of my 'something bad always happens to >me on Christmas' songs, four secular Christmas songs, and four carols. I >want to make a play out of it," she said. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:27:41 -0800 From: Mike Friedman Subject: Re: L.A. Tickets You can buy just the Joni tickets, but you get 3rd priority behind the person who chooses 6 or 4 in the series. They claim that you get tix before the general sale starts, though. Mike - -- I'm porous with travel fever But I'm so glad to be on my own. - --Joni Mitchell, Hejira, 1976. > From: GREYC1@aol.com > Reply-To: GREYC1@aol.com > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:54:54 -0500 (EST) > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: L.A. Tickets > > Did those who purchased LA tickets do so by subscribing to one of the 2 > "plans" that the Greek Theatre is offering at this time? I called yesterday > to purchase tickets for Joni and was told that the only way to get tickets at > this time was to choose > one of the plans they offer (4 or 6 different concerts purchased at once). > > Does anyone know of a way to buy just Joni tickets?? > > Thanks > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:05:07 EST From: KJHSF@aol.com Subject: Bay Area Tickets In the SF Guardian, tickets for BSN at the Concord Pavilion go on sale Sunday at noon. I was planning on going to Santa Cruz this weekend to play and possibly visit Leslie Mixon (Hope you're recuperating and thanks for the invite--I will give you a buzz when I confirm weekend plans) but I may go to concord and spend the night in line at the ticket center. Looking forward to seeing Joni Live! and to meeting some of you in person! Ken in SF ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:08:43 EST From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas - --part1_e.1b8f3e3.260a743b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the only other christmas line I can think of is 'christmas is sparkling, out on carol's lawn' from chinese cafe... actually i'm just remembering that off the top of my head- lyric wise.... what else? and what secular songs? carols? would she do? jane siberry did a fine christmas albumn- 'child' with some real beautiful old traditional carols- it's my favorite christmas albumn... it's my only christmas albumn... doug - --part1_e.1b8f3e3.260a743b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (rly-zb02.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.2]) by air-zb01.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:20:21 -0500 Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by rly-zb02.mx.aol.com (v70.21) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:19:58 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [24.30.216.55]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA13003; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id NAA13718; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:18:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id NAA13704 for joni-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f282.hotmail.com [216.32.180.136]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with SMTP id NAA13696 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1615 invoked by uid 0); 22 Mar 2000 18:17:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20000322181730.1614.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.0.45.42 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:17:30 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.0.45.42] From: "Reuben Bell" To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 10:17:30 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-joni@jmdl.com Reply-To: "Reuben Bell" Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I love Joni...she has such a strange attitude sometimes. Which four songs will be included in this Christmas album? I can only think of "River", and "Facelift" (I know I could come up with the other two, but I AM supposed to be working...) Cyndi Lauper did a great Christmas album a couple of years ago called "Merry Christmas...Have A Nice Life". Good mix of fun and traditional. She has one of the truly great voices in pop music. Reuben >Mitchell calls the third album "Have Yourself A Dreary Little >Christmas." "It will include four of my 'something bad always happens to >me on Christmas' songs, four secular Christmas songs, and four carols. I >want to make a play out of it," she said. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --part1_e.1b8f3e3.260a743b_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:01:26 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: tickets for S. FL show Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:44:04 -0800 (PST) From: Erin Stoy Subject: tickets for S. FL show I have what may be a dumb question: A post yesterday said that for the South FL show, the AmEx gold card was selling tickets for the first ten rows in certain sections. Does this mean one has to have the gold card to purchase these particular tickets, or what? Thanks, Erin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:05:05 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of the Best IYHO In a message dated 03/21/2000 8:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, alisone@kirkhams.com writes: << songs that you feel would be especially relevant, or songs you think would mesh well with this album (pardon my run-on sentence!). I am at my wits and it's my first fundraising show. Any ideas would be so appreciatted!!! >> Alison: You could play "Summertime" and "The Man I Love" from the Herbie Hancock CD. Or it might be interesting to play songs that chart Joni's progression into jazz. For example, you could play, "Real Good and For Free" (I've always felt that this song has real jazz overtones), "Twisted", "Blue Motel Room", anything from DJRD or Mingus, etc. Good luck with the show. Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:14:09 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas In a message dated 03/22/2000 2:14:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, Wolfebite@aol.com writes: << 'christmas is sparkling, out on carol's lawn' from chinese cafe... actually i'm just remembering that off the top of my head- lyric wise.... what else? >> "He sings Merry Christmas for you just like Nat King Cole" from Barandgrill. Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:26:34 EST From: SMEBD@aol.com Subject: Re: tickets for S. FL show In a message dated 03/22/2000 3:08:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: << A post yesterday said that for the South FL show, the AmEx gold card was selling tickets for the first ten rows in certain sections. Does this mean one has to have the gold card to purchase these particular tickets, or what? >> Erin: For Gold Card events, you must have an AMEX gold card to purchase those tickets that they are holding aside. If you don't have a Gold Card, perhaps a friend who does can purchase the tickets for you and you can reimburse them. AMEX will often do this type of promotion as an incentive to get you to apply for the Gold. Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:17:20 -0600 From: "Michael Paz" Subject: Los Angeles Here I Come ********THIS IS AN OFFICIAL WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY KNOWN AS LOS ANGELES******* The Paz's will be descending upon your city for the opening of the Joni Tour on May 12. We will be without children and ready for a wonderful weekend in the company of dear friends. THIS WILL BE YOUR *ONLY WARNING*!! Please polish the martini glasses and make reservations at Les Deux and have them prep the Presidential Suite at the BelAir Hotel. Please be advised that Southwest has a *VERY CHEAP* deal going on thru midnight on the 23 of March. I got us round trip tickets for both of us for a TOTAL of $429 (YES thats $215 each person) I had been stressing because of high ticket prices across the board, but alas they have rescued me. Hopefully these kind of prices will be attractive to some of you folks that are sitting on the fence about coming to JoniFest2000 New Orleans. Also *THIS JUST IN* Singer/Songwriter Roots/Rock sensation Anders Osborne has just signed on to play. Check out Anders new album called Living Room in stores NOW! SO, should I, yes I should. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:29:54 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas Doug writes: << << 'christmas is sparkling, out on carol's lawn' from chinese cafe... what else? >> and Stephen writes: "He sings Merry Christmas for you just like Nat King Cole" from Barandgrill. >> and I add: if you really want to make a stretch how about Oh come let us adore---ME! from "Tax Free" Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 20:33:03 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Have Yourself A Dreary Little Christmas In a message dated 3/22/00 1:13:40 PM US Central Standard Time, Wolfebite@aol.com writes: << actually i'm just remembering that off the top of my head- lyric wise.... what else? >> Facelift would be one, and it would never happen but I'd LOVE to hear her remake "Gift of the Magi", based on the O.Henry short story of the same name. It's a gorgeous song... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:05:54 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Los Angeles Here I Come Well, all I can say is... WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO back at 'ya Prepare to prepare, Man the partyships, well, whatever. A good time will definitely be had by all. When is your arrival and departure so we can start making all those plans and reservations... Phyliss Michael Paz wrote: > ********THIS IS AN OFFICIAL WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY KNOWN AS LOS > ANGELES******* > > The Paz's will be descending upon your city for the opening of the Joni Tour > on May 12. We will be without children and ready for a wonderful weekend in > the company of dear friends. THIS WILL BE YOUR *ONLY WARNING*!! > SO, should I, yes I should. > > WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > > Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:16:59 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Bay Area Tickets > In the SF Guardian, tickets for BSN at the Concord Pavilion go on sale Sunday > at noon. I was planning on going to Santa Cruz this weekend to play and > possibly visit Leslie Mixon (Hope you're recuperating and thanks for the > invite--I will give you a buzz when I confirm weekend plans) but I may go to > concord and spend the night in line at the ticket center. Looking forward to > seeing Joni Live! and to meeting some of you in person! > Ken in SF Well I checked airfares to San Jose and a round trip ticket will cost me $129. That I think I can swing and several people have told me I should go for it (including Travis). So, bay area JMDLers! Shall we plan a gathering? Would anybody be willing to get an extra ticket or two? WOOO HOOOO to you too! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:33:34 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: Bay Area Tickets In a message dated 3/22/00 6:22:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: << So, bay area JMDLers! Shall we plan a gathering? Would anybody be willing to get an extra ticket or two? >> I offered this to Mark and I figured, what the heck, why not the everyone else? If there is anyone considering the Bay Area show and considering flying in from points unknown, I'm willing to open up my house, (I'm an hour-ish from the place, right Al?), to weekend guests. We could have a full mini-Joni weekend. MG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:19:26 -0800 From: "susan+rick" Subject: Speakeasy with Joni Oh yeah, first commercial break in a really great interview with Joni on Canadian TV. She talks about recording with Wayne Shorter, her life around Blue, intermingled with clips of performances by her and others. Really well done (except for the kind-of treacly interviewer). This is going to be a great addition to a video tree. Joni: no make-up, cigarette smoking, looking gorgeous. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:39:17 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: ticket prices (SJC) Steve, the old timer wrote: <> And Ashara, the other old timer writes: Joni Mitchell, Barton Hall, Ithaca New York 2/3/74- $6.00 {sigh} I still have the Ithaca Times with the advertisement, and article about the concert! Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:11:23 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Joni interview in Rolling Stone In the very latest issue of Rolling Stone Magazine,there is an interview with Joni,where-and this a big shocker...ready everyone....she talks about how sick the music buissness is,how much she hates being in the music buissness,how current music is all garbage,and how just about everything else is garbage ect...Now,I'm sure there is alot of truth in Joni's rantings,but it is getting a lttle bit tireing reading the same thing in just about every single interview that I have read of Joni. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:19:20 -0800 From: "susan+rick" Subject: Speakeasy with Joni Okay, this has to be one of the best interviews with Joni I've ever seen. I plan to tape all three airings of the show. She talks about how she finds her chord patterns, her unorthodox use of sus (suspended) chords, her affinity for native peoples, the recording of Lakota, the shape of her life around the time she recorded Blue, a very little bit about the recent spate of awards being showered on her, the recording techniques of Wayne Shorter, considering Albert Grossman as her first manager, how she first got into jazz, all intermingled with clips of performances and videos. No bitterness just Joni relaxed and charming and beautiful. Very very fine. People are going to love this one. I am offering a copy of it to anyone who will put it on a video tree. All good things Rick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:35:52 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Los Angeles Here I Come Mr. Paz wrote: > Please polish the martini glasses Polished, chilled, signed sealed and delivered!!! WHOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!!! YAAAYYYY!!!! Kakki NP: Boom Boom - Yardbirds ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:57:48 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: FL ticket prices a friend who has today's Miami Herald just called me with the ticket prices for Joni's concert in West Palm. They are $78. , 58. and 25. I guess this just concerns the 5 or 6 JMDLer's who plan on attending. The rest of Florida says "Joni Mitchell, oh that young hippy whipper snapper" : ) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:18:13 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: A few NEW Joni & BSN tidbits The Tower Records in Schaumburg had rows and rows of BSN in their new CD display section!! Also, last time I was there they had about 6 BSN Limited Editions on display. Only saw 1 today. The CD is on sale for $13.99 (usually $17.99......OUCH!) Also stopped in Borders.........they had Joni's new BSN a dollar less then Tower...........$12.99. Shame on Borders!! They did not have BSN in their new CD display!! But they did have a couple of magazines that Tower didn't Also saw at Borders: There's a picture of Joni and a review of BSN in the new MOJO magazine. Only scanned it.......didn't buy it today so I can't quote anything..........my memory fails me. The new Rolling Stone has a picture and article on Joni. I didn't buy it because I thought I'd get mine in the mail today but I didn't (guess my free trial must have ran out!!). A big caption in the article read something like (sorry.......can't remember exactly) "I'm ashamed to be a part of the music industry".........should be an interesting article!! Borders also had the new April Life magazine with a Joni picture and article......as was posted in the NEWS section of JoniMitchell.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:39:05 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Joni Mitchell is NEWS today @VH-1 Good find, Penny!! Laura Penny wrote: > Joni is in the news on VH-1's website also: > http://www.vh1.com/thewire/news/03_21_00/joni.jhtml > > This one includes the bit that Joni plans to do the Christmas album > *this* year. And yet another mention that she might add dates to this > tour. (Oh Evian, don't quit smoking yet. You would gain 25 very > sightly lbs, but be faster from not having to catch your breath for your > streak through the streets. I can see it now. Naked, painted and bent > over panting. ;-D) > > And I can't remember if this article tells us that Joni is also > scheduled to perform at her Tribute taping April 6....I read it > somewhere today. Going into Joni info overload. But happily! ;-) > > Penny > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:28:52 -0500 From: "steve julty" Subject: Back on the list Hi everyone, It's been a while since I've written or read any jmdl content. Hopefully, some of you will remember me from my past affiliation. I first would like to express my sorrow in the passing of Wally Breese. It always amazed me that he could put so much of himself into making Jonimitchel.com such a great page to visit even though he was ill for so long. It pleased me to see that the current postings were up to par with his original concept. Wally lives on!!! Now onto the reason I'm posting, After anxiously awaiting it's release, I just listened to BSN in it's entirety and there was some thing that bothered me about it. These comments are my own and I don't want to offend anyone. As a huge Joni fan, I really don't think it's fair for me to be too critical because I was not the one who spent all the time to create it. I will start out by saying that Joni's voice is as pristine and perfect as it's ever been and the arrangements of the songs were faithful to the originals. I was however very disappointed in the treatment of the orchestra. To me, it lacked dynamics and was buried way too far in the back of the mix. Let me use Frank Sinatra's "Strangers in the night" or Herbie Hancock's "Gershwin's World" as comparisons . As you listen to those recordings, the strings, the horns and the percussion seem to jump out at you along with the vocals. I am not by any means an audiophile or audio "snob" & I own a decent but not great stereo system. I do however know how to identify great recordings and mixes and conversely sub-par ones. and I have to say that my enjoyment of BSN was greatly hampered by this less than great mix. I'm sure that Geoff Foster @ AIR studios did a fine job of recording the full orchestra sound, it just didn't carry over into the mix. I tried raising up my treble settings to bring the strings forward but that didn't seem satisfy me. Otherwise I absolutely love the record. Joni's cover artwork is just great and the remakes of "both sides now" and "A case of you" were inspired!! Does anyone else hear where I'm coming from on this or am I out on my own? I will however remain a devout Joni fan forever... Steve Julty stevephoto@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:41:43 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: Joni interview in Rolling Stone >In the very latest issue of Rolling Stone Magazine,there is an interview >with Joni,where-and this a big shocker...ready everyone....she talks about >how sick the music buissness is,how much she hates being in the music >buissness,how current music is all garbage,and how just about everything else >is garbage ect...Now,I'm sure there is alot of truth in Joni's rantings,but >it is getting a lttle bit tireing reading the same thing in just about every >single interview that I have read of Joni. I know we've heard it all before - Joni doesn't like the music industry, Joni is a painter first, Joni only makes records 'cos it pays the bills, etc., etc., etc. But I'd love to be a fly on the wall at one of these interviews. I find it hard to believe that an interviewer would only ask questions about what an artist DOESN'T like about the music industry, and neglect to ask anything about current projects, future projects, and any other positive questions, or indeed that the artist wouldn't mention it themselves. I really get the feeling that a lot of these magazines/papers just like the shock value, so they use a little bit of poetic license and leave out the boring old "I loved singing with the London Symphony", "I'm looking forward to recording my Xmas album", etc. It seems to me that if Joni was that fed up with the whole thing, she really would have quit - and certainly wouldn't be touring the US with a full orchestra! Hell - shooting the message, not the messenger! NP - The cat yelling at me that it's dinner time. The fact is, daylight saving has just finished and his digestive clock is all wonky. And I'm not giving in, despite the biting of my ankles! _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:02:00 -0600 From: diana Subject: Chicago Hi all, I know I very seldom post but the new CD and now the tour has lured me out of the shadows. I just wanted to say that I'm so jealous hearing about the group that is going to get together for the Chicago concert. I can't believe it but I'm going to have to miss this tour! I get my masters on the 13th of May, and leave for Calif. for a wedding shower on the 19th. Plans and tickets are already bought. I won't be back to the Midwest until after the wedding on June 3. Can you believe this! I miss the Calif. concerts because of graduation and miss the others cause I'll be in Calif! I've been having dreams of being there for a Joni concert every night this week. Knowing that these dreams won't come true are turning them into nightmares. Not really, they're great dreams as of course I'm her closest friend and we have a great time after the concert. Laura, Jody, Howard, Doug, Simon? and the rest, think about me. If it wasn't family obligations I'd be there. Diana, who's chin deep in graduate class work. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #107 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?