From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #91 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, March 8 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 091 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) ["Raffaele Malanga" ] Re: #32 on the Top 100 of all time [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [Catherine McKay ] Re: #32 on the Top 100 of all time (md) [MDESTE1@aol.com] A True Friend ... [Don Rowe ] How Percy Meisel fails [M.D.Quinn@shu.ac.uk (Mike QUINN\(CMS\))] BSN, IMHO [micks.mail@cwcom.net] that girl ["Christine Nunn" ] Re: BSN, IMHO [Don Rowe ] Re: How Percy Meisel fails [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) ["Mark T. Domyancich" ] re: Confounding Expectations [Dmascall@aol.com] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [FredNow@aol.com] Re: #32 on the Top 100 Stevie and Joni (SJC) [FredNow@aol.com] Welcome, newcomers [Seanapper@aol.com] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [dsk ] Re: BSN, IMHO ["Mark or Travis" ] Medical Emergency - SJC [Bounced Message ] Both Sides Now LE [Bounced Message ] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Joni's Jazz Sequel [michael w yarbrough ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 01:51:45 PST From: "Raffaele Malanga" Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) Bob wrote: <> Bob, I think this is genius: *Joni Mitchell, 'Lahminated'* I love it. Raffaele (London) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:55:22 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: new to list Welcome Garret, it's nice to see a neighbour on the list (we're on the same server). I assume you missed Joni when she played in Dublin, you were only two. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:49:04 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Bob, The Jungleline? <> Don't have that one either, Craig...hustle it to me and we'll squeeze it on Volume 2, or we can use it to kick off Volume 3... Bob NP: The Reivers, "Chinatown" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:52:02 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Add ons if you dont already hav... <> Firstly, Mr. Lahm, shame shame for not following the thread too closely...after all, you're making a living interpreting Joni's stuff (with the touch of your own brilliance). Secondly, so far nobody's stepped up with this record of Theodore and his rockin' balalaika, so if you want to share it on the boxset let me know! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:57:48 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: #32 on the Top 100 Stevie and Joni (SJC) <> "That Girl" (not based on the Marlo Thomas TV show) is available on his collection/retrospective called "Stevie Wonder's Musicquarium". It's mostly a 70's greatest hits 2-disc set, but it featured 4 new songs: That Girl The Front Line Do I Do (with Dizzy G) Ribbon In The Sky The collection is still in print I think...and Joni's "My Top 12" is available on cassette for anybody who missed it and wants it for their very own - it's definitely worth having. The Peter Gabriel song she plays is "I Have The Touch"... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:01:33 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) <<*Joni Mitchell, 'Lahminated'* I love it.>> I envision the whole marketing concept; the cover superimposes David's head on Arnold Schwarzenegger's bod as "The Lahminator"...Full page ads promise that David is here to PUMP YOU UP with new Joni tunes! :~) I'm sure David is much too classy a guy to go this route however... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:04:09 +0000 From: M.D.Quinn@shu.ac.uk (Mike QUINN\(CMS\)) Subject: Number 43 with a bullet I noticed that BSN was at number 43 in this week's top 75 albums at Our Price Records in UK. Lets hope it can pick up some momentum and move higher. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 08:20:16 -0500 From: James Leahy Subject: Joni on Walk of Fame This news is a week old, but thought you'd like to know: Joni is one of 50 new inductees for Toronto's Walk of Fame -- a series of plaques on the sidewalk of Toronto's theatre district (sort of like Graumann's Chinese Theatre, but without the hand impressions). Among the other inductees is Alexander Graham Bell, the inventor of the telephone! Left out of the current batch of sidewalk celebs are Shania Twain and Ashley MacIsaac -- the rules state that inductees must have been born in Canada and have spent their formative years here, and have a sustantial body of work spanning over ten years. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:13:42 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: #32 on the Top 100 of all time In a message dated 3/7/00 1:03:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, MDESTE1@aol.com writes: << Any poll that places the Police ahead of Stevie Wonder I have to wonder about. >> i was very surprised by this. as well, i was equally surprised that david bowie ranked higher than elton john. i love them both, but i guess i thought elton had gone farther and longer over the years. then, when you think about the top five, it seems to me what they really were ranking were elements of change, as opposed to overall talent...in other words,...who did the most to make novel musical changes to our culture. pat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:16:23 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) How 'bout "Joni's Jungle, Lahm's Line"? - --- Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, Randy. I like the JUNGLE LINE idea, but > without her name in the > title, it'll never be approved. My favorite ideas > for the first one were all > lyric quotes, like "renegade stories" but they had > the same shortcoming. DL > ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca (the former cateri@hotmail) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:49:49 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: #32 on the Top 100 Stevie and Joni (SJC) Les wrote:- >>Speaking of Mr Wonder. About the time that WTRF came out Joni did a 'special' on BBC Radio one. It was called My Top Ten. I recorded it from the radio for no other reason than hearing Joni speak. Her voice in coversation was as rare as hen's teeth in those days in Britain. One of the songs she chose to play as one of her top ten songs was Stevie Wonder's 'That Girl'. Listening to it used to make the hair on the back of my neck especially when he broke into the chorus. I've never been able to find this song on an album release and wondered if anyone knew which one it was on. By the way, another track that she played was Edith Piaf's Les Trois Cloches. She used that song to illustrate the influence it brought to a song she wrote for the WTRF collection but which didn't surface until NRH where it had become 'Two Grey Rooms'. She played this earlier version which featured a scat vocal and was light-heartedly called 'Speechless'. She said at the time that because of the 'french diphthong' present in the 'singing' she hoped to put a french lyric to it. Other music in the show, so far as I can remember, were, You've Changed sung by Billie Holliday, Nefertiti by Miles Davis, a Peter Gabriel song - I think it was Shoot the Monkey(?) and Stravinsky's Rite of Spring. Oh yes and I have to agree with the attached observation regarding Stevie and the Police..........no arguement from me on that one.<<< That program was on Tape tree 5. The Gabriel track was "I have the touch". Also included were Little Richard "Lucille", Bob Dylan "Memphis blues again", Lamberts, Hendricks, Ross "Cloudburst" Laura Nyro "Captain for dark mornings" and Steely Dan "Gaucho". Thanks for reminding me about Billie Holiday's "You've changed" as I'd forgotten that was on it and it's interesting to compare her version with Joni's which although clearly influenced by Holiday is also so much her own. Re-listening to that program, I noted that Joni says she would have liked to fit in some "Police" as well but, obviously Stevie Wonder won out! By the way, I loved your story about your 18 year old niece and ACOY. Both versions of that song are wonderful and I always like to hear about teenagers getting turned on to Joni. Regards Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:46:17 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Diltz Caught the Henry Diltz special on the Learning Channel Saturday. I nominate Henry and Kakki to be the tour guides on the LA jmdl tour busses..."on your left we have Joni's Lookout Mountain Road home, famous as "Our House", where she lived from..." It's a good show - watch for it if you missed it. ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:06:15 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: #32 on the Top 100 of all time (md) In a message dated 3/7/2000 6:13:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, Siresorrow writes: << it seems to me what they really were ranking were elements of change, as opposed to overall talent...in other words,...who did the most to make novel musical changes to our culture. pat >> The Police were probably the worst placed of any artist on the list. Other than getting their videos played to an annoyingly frequent degree I cant think of much that they contributed. They just happened to appear at the dawn of Rock Video with a good looking (and pedestrian) bass player. I would rank them in the second 50 if at all. Elton is on a completely higher level. Who sings Roxanne. As a matter of fact I went to a big day on the green with Bowie, The Clash, Oingo Boingo, and a few others and Bowie absolutely blew them away. The Police were in a word "boring". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:19:03 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: A True Friend ... My good friend, and musical partner in crime, went to see Richard Thompson in Columbia MO last night -- and returned with a wonderful, special present for me that he saw in a used record store off the Univ. MO campus - -- "A Conversation With Joni Mitchell" ... the Reprise Promo CD featuring tracks from TTT and a wonderful interview Jody Denberg of KSGR Austin, TX. To quote our soon-to-be-famous femenine feline -- WOOO-HOOOO!! Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:18:53 +0000 From: M.D.Quinn@shu.ac.uk (Mike QUINN\(CMS\)) Subject: How Percy Meisel fails Now I understand. I read the Percy Meisel article from the Joni Mitchell Companion last night. I have not got the book yet but read in the reviems section on jmdl.(Thanks David for pointing me in the right direction, I thought I'd already checked the archives) I must say I enjoyed reading it, although after years in academia I reckon I can detect a sniffy academic from 30 paces. It is a revealing article. But, to my mind, tells us more about the author than about Joni's work. I agree with David Wright when he says: It's very evident from his(Meisel's) review that he had a strong, complicated response to the album and when he states: I think he(Meisel) pinpoints a lot of the duality, on many levels, in Joni's work The duality is also evident in Meisel's own relationship to Joni's work. Perhaps the clues are in two of the sweeping, unjustified statements he makes to bolster his argument. 1) That the poetic element in Joni's work has been a source of embarassment to many listeners. 2) that even for her greatest fans, her greatest songs have always been her most tuneful ones. Well as we know you will never get a consensus on the greatest Joni song or album as the JMDL displays continually. Tuneful is subjective of course and who are the embarrassed listeners? I've not met any. Maybe these statements apply to Mr Meisel, which is OK of course but not when generalised in this vague, imprecise way. His main premise, by the way, is that Joni uses language in a "vague, imprecise way". Ouch I can hear someone hoist on his own petard, methinks. Call me old-fashioned but I like a bit of evidence to back things up. On one hand Hejira is Joni's best album since C&S. And yet it has a "dearth of melody", Joni's "singing gets boring" and just wait until he gets started on the shortcomings of the lyrics! I do have a soft spot for the man though. I reckon he adores Joni's music, particularly Blue, which inhabits his mind "as an unforgettable sweep of notes largely devoid of lyrics". Now that's reveaing. I doubt if Blue would have been such a great sucess as an instrumental piece. Maybe we have a conflict here between the "eagle and the serpent". Emotionally moved by the songs but intellectually hesistant (even embarrassed) to praise the lyrics in their own right. And he says Joni may have "latent anality"! Meisel's starting point is that the lyrics should be scrutinised as poetry alone. Maybe in future artists should write a disclaimer: These lyrics may seem poetic but they are part of a complete musical experience and should not be judged in isolation. Pretentious or what? Maybe there are poets out there pushing back linguistic boundaries and producing multi-layered (some might say contrived) poems. But what do they sound like set to music? Its possible to pick holes in any art form after endless scrutiny. They've been doing it to Shakespeare for 400 years. To say that the line "history falls, To parking lots and shopping malls" from Furry Sings the Blues, implies that shopping malls are not part of human history is just plain silly. Parking lots (as in BYT) and malls signify the march of progress(?), the present rather than the past. Of course history cannot fall in the sense that its a continuous process but at any discrete moment the artefacts of your past or history can be destroyed. I don't believe this choice of words subverts or undermines the meaning at all. If I want cryptic, contrived wordplay I do the Times crossword,with Joni on in the background of course! The line "These are the clouds of Michelangelo..." from Refuge from the Roads he calls impossibly pretentious. I have never thought this. Apart from its wonderful descriptive qualities, to me it connects us all to those great achievers from the past. All can seem insignificant when viewed from space, our own attempts ("chicken scratching ") at immortality or even those of the greats like Michelangelo. So in the end Meisel's piece fails. To me his agenda was predetermined, he failed to summon convincing arguments and slips into the imprecise language he so abhors. It was a good read though! Please excuse this post which I know is a bit long, but I had to get some of this off my chest and you lot got lumbered. Mike . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:45:25 +0000 From: micks.mail@cwcom.net Subject: BSN, IMHO I've played it now about 15 times since I got it last Thursday so feel confident I can stand by this mail in spite of the fact that it will appear that I've gone off on one. But I love her, so:- For the first time I have felt the full impact of a Joni Mitchell album at first play. Released from the demands of new music and lyrics, it's all in the arrangements and... that voice! It was the voice that provided the first shock; from the top of my head, to my stomach where it rested that first time. Respect and deference, yes, to all the past singers of these songs, as well as one or two others (did anybody else hear Dusty for a moment?) but that was surely a demonstration for the doubters. There was no need. Joni loves these singers and their songs and they love Joni. It is all the same. On each listen to this album, sobs rise in many places but I can't stop crying each time I hear Both Sides Now for that is where Joni truly takes her place. This is her song, she is singing it straight to me and I feel my heart could burst. Then the arrangements. Wagnerian? Yes, many noted, but not greatly. Hollywood? Greatly! (Sorry I forgot the guy's name but I am only 45 after all). But what about the timing, that thing called rhythm... melody? Poor much used and devalued words for such fine expression. What about those things that one doesn't talk about for fear of derision? What about the pure love and respect that is passing from the hearts of these unknown musicians and her better-known close friends through the woman who has created this opportunity? What about this finest hour of pre pop popular music of the 20th century? That's it, there will never be better. Had this album not have happened now it couldn't happen in the future as many of those invisible men and women would no longer be around to show us how it's done. Then there's the closing of a circle. The generation gap, Fifties to Sixties bridged at last. Peace and reconciliation. I wish my Mum and Dad were alive to hear Both Sides Now, but that's me, always in need of proof. They do, through her, through me. Come October it will be 29 years since Joni (on Blue) first taught me to listen without prejudice (well, within her frame). I knew she could see the big picture and I knew the rewards would be great, so I trusted. It was easy then, I was sixteen. As the years went by it became more difficult but she trained me well. I never knew which turn she would take next and would seek clues in her latest albums to make guesses. Sometimes I think I got it right but never enough to be sure. Anyway she became my leading light back then and I am enriched by every single moment. And very greatly so by this album. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:08:14 -0500 From: "Christine Nunn" Subject: that girl I believe that girl is on Stevie's "Musicquarium". Christine E. Nunn Development Director NYC Anti-Violence Project (212) 714-1184 ext. 29 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 10:15:17 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: BSN, IMHO Outstanding! I couldn't agree more, and I've only heard a wildly compressed web broadcast ... you know, I think Rev. Vince has got some competition in the preachin' department! :-) Amen! Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 14:03:29 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: How Percy Meisel fails <> Excellent point, Mike, plus I just love to hear an uncommon, non-cliched word in a song. Joni tosses in words like Javex, Michaelangelo, Winn-Dixie, hula, etc. that give her writing such a sense of uniqueness. I enjoyed your post very much. Bob NP: REM, "Airportman" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:10:00 -0600 From: "Mark T. Domyancich" Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) How about "Jazz is Joni" (ala Jazz is Dead?) At 6:38 PM -0800 3/6/00, Mark or Travis wrote: >How about 'Joni Mitchell From the Jazz Side Now' > >or 'Jazz for Joni Mitchell Fans' > >or 'Jazz Take On Joni Mitchell Again' > >or 'Jazz For Distingue Joni Mitchell Lovers' - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net http://home.revealed.net/Harpua ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:51:41 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Diltz I caught it too, it was great. Does anyone know-was this the same as the "Under The Covers" CD-ROM?? Steve Dulson wrote: > > Caught the Henry Diltz special on the Learning Channel > Saturday. I nominate Henry and Kakki to be the tour guides > on the LA jmdl tour busses..."on your left we have Joni's > Lookout Mountain Road home, famous as "Our House", where > she lived from..." > > It's a good show - watch for it if you missed it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:16:41 EST From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: re: Confounding Expectations Paul Castle" wrote "All the UK reviews I've seen so far have been really positive....." Paul - I'm willing to have my expectations confounded (and often do) but I have this sneaky feeling that the "lounge" scene (if I understand it correctly and it still exists ) and the general yen for retro song styles could just give Joni a commercial success in the UK with BSN. Like the Time Out reviewer I'm also coming to the conclusion that BSN is ...well.... a classic, for want of a better word. I'm hooked.. David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:19:32 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) ><< The best I've been able to do so far is MORE JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL >or > (since four of my pieces will be on it as well) MORE THAN JAZZ TAKES ON >JONI > MITCHELL. After Miles Davis' classic Sketches Of Spain, how about Sketches Of Joni? - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 19:05:30 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: #32 on the Top 100 Stevie and Joni (SJC) "Ross, Les" wrote: >One of the songs she >chose to play as one of her top ten songs was Stevie Wonder's 'That Girl'. >Listening to it used to make the hair on the back of my neck especially when >he broke into the chorus. I've never been able to find this song on an album >release and wondered if anyone knew which one it was on. Don't know what album it was originally on, but it is on an incredible Stevie Wonder box set called At The Close Of A Century. Any Stevie fan who doesn't have a lot on CD should run out to get this ... four remastered discs, 70+ tunes from his whole career, and the dreaded Ebony And Ivory nowhere to be found! - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:31:16 EST From: Seanapper@aol.com Subject: Welcome, newcomers Welcome, Garrett and GuruSmith! Bob, has anyone sent you Mary Black's "Urge for Going" for your covers compilation? I bought that tape several years ago and didn't care too much for it except for one song, which I played over and over: Urge for Going. It wasn't until much later that I discovered Joni wrote it. I took the dog test and discovered I'm a basset. Maybe that explains why my face is getting droopier every year. Neil in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:30:29 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > The best I've been able to do so far is MORE JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL or > (since four of my pieces will be on it as well) MORE THAN JAZZ TAKES ON JONI > MITCHELL. These make sense, but scintillate NOT. Here are some ideas: Jazzily Joni Mitchell Joni Mitchell's Jazz Too Jazzier Joni Mitchell Lahm's Joni Mitchell Jazz: Take Two Joni Mitchell on the A Train Joni Mitchell Jazzilated Jumping Jiving Jazzed Up Joni Mitchell Lahm's Jumping Jiving Jazzy Joni Mitchell Lahm Loves Jazzy Joni Mitchell Lahm's Jazzy Joni Mitchell Lahm Plays Joni Mitchell Jazzy Lahm Makes Joni Mitchell Jazzy (a little too personal maybe :-) Or maybe use a play on the title of whichever song you want to highlight (if I only knew what that is :-). I'm looking forward to hearing this new project, whatever it's called. Hope these ideas are helpful. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:29:59 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: BSN, IMHO > Come October it will be 29 years since Joni (on Blue) first taught me to > listen without prejudice (well, within her frame). I knew she could see > the big picture and I knew the rewards would be great, so I trusted. It > was easy then, I was sixteen. As the years went by it became more > difficult but she trained me well. I never knew which turn she would > take next and would seek clues in her latest albums to make guesses. > Sometimes I think I got it right but never enough to be sure. Anyway she > became my leading light back then and I am enriched by every single moment. > > And very greatly so by this album. This was a great post! Loved all of it. This last paragraph really sums up the way I feel about Joni. She has shown me the way to so many new & different things that I might never have explored had it not been for this courageous & creative woman. Thanks, Mick, for saying it so well! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:36:39 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Medical Emergency - SJC From: leslie@torchsongs.com Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:17:40 -0800 (PST) "Sometimes change comes at you like a broadside accident..." Told the chiropractor that my belly ached, sent me to urgent care, who sent me for blood tests, who sent me to the hospital for a CAT scan. I was advised tonight that I will need abdominal surgery within the next few days. I am un.sub.scribing for now - hopefully won't be gone for too long. I threw my husband a birthday party last Friday night and played BSN for our guests. After the CD ended I asked, "What would you like to hear now?" They replied, "Play 'Both Sides Now' again man..." Leslie Mixon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:38:22 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Both Sides Now LE From: "smarcaurele" Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:00:13 -0500 I just got my copy of Both Sides Now, LE, hated to open it, a measure only of the way I feel about Joni and her music, but the need in me, opened the box - I feel as if she has been holding back the "side" that comes forth in this work, I feel even as I listened to it, that she is still holding back, damn those music executives and all other tripe that has rained on the parade of true art! This music is so dazzling, I must confess my ignorance in not knowing how the originals were arranged, must confess my ignorance in not knowing how much of an influence she had in it all - I was surprised to see Larry Klein's peice heading off the words and credits - this album is alot like Joni - always putting others before her, yet she is a culmination of a music genre that began way back when my mother and father were just being born, she is the culmination of many many decades, if not centuries of art, literature, music, and history intertwining their reveries and spawning light, again and again, inside someone some would call me the parsimonous of all - she, she gives to us, and sure Joni, there will be the usual bushel of ignorance gathered to sneer and jeer for their ten cent show, but you, I have waited a long time for you to sing to music that does not give one nod to the POP scene - it pops in and is gone, but what you do, what you salute, you make it shiny and new like it was just minted Since 1983 there has always been a note or word or withdrawal from us all, in each and every album, this time, the whole thematic again, hints at the possibility that this will be the last one, I still want to know what those around you did that makes you always leave a sense of withdrawing in all the albums since 1983 To me you are precious and I bear no jealousy as I imagine some must have, for the preferential treatment ( to some degree) that you receive - at least there are some people who realize that suffocating your artistic breath is absolutely the most idiotic thing they could do - I guess they see just how much garbage they create for future archaeologists should this world still hold that long a future You may remember me, I am Miz pensive, miz crazy at times, miz recalcitrant - and a whole host of other negatives - but I am also positive when I say, I simply could not have beared this life all of these years if you had not shared your stimulating thought processes with us- though I still begrudge the shortness of those shared moments! One last thought I am EXTREMELY GLAD THIS IS NOT AN ALBUM THEY CAN SELL WITH SOME NIFTY SPEAK OR JINGLE! Sincerely Suzanne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 01:45:23 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) In a message dated 3/7/2000 11:13:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, dsk11@bellatlantic.net writes: << Lahm's Joni Mitchell Jazz: Take Two >> I like this one best!!! It gets my vote!!! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:57:25 -0600 (CST) From: michael w yarbrough Subject: Joni's Jazz Sequel How about _More Sides Now_? - --Michael - ----------------------------------------------------------------- "I asked Henry, my bartending friend If I should bother dating unfamous men. And Henry said, 'You're lucky to even know me. You're lucky to be alive.'" - --Liz Phair, "Polyester Bride" ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #91 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?