From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #90 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, March 7 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 090 Ashara has set up a "Wally Breese Memorial Fund," with all donations going directly into the upkeep of the JoniMitchell.com website. Wally kept the website going with his own funds, and it will now be up to Jim to continue. If you would like to donate to this fund, please make all checks payable to: Jim Johanson and send them to: Ashara Stansfield P.O. Box 215 Topsfield, MA 01983 USA ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage can be found at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: new to list ["Alan Lorimer" ] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: new to the list [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [Don Rowe ] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [Ken ] "Confounding Expectations" ["Paul Castle" ] BSN Reviews - but with barbs [Dmascall@aol.com] Roseanna interviews Joni! [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Roseanna interviews Joni! [jan gyn ] Re: new to the list [Randy Remote ] Re: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Forgot one more! ["Matthew ] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Add ons if you dont already have them [Catherine McKay ] Re: BSN Reviews - but with barbs ["Matthew Hall" ] Lennox cover of Joni's Ladies of the Canyon [GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com] Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) ["Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: new to list Garret said >I was wondering if anybody could tell me if there are any good books >or biographys that i could read that would help to enlighten me some. Garret, I have just received a copy of "The Joni Mitchell Companion" from Barnes & Noble. Stacy Luftig has selected articles from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's to illustrate what she perceives to be various aspects of Joni's life and music. In my humble opinion the book is excellent value and highly recommended. Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:26:09 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) David writes: << The best I've been able to do so far is MORE JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL or (since four of my pieces will be on it as well) MORE THAN JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL. >> I do like both of the titles that you've mentioned, and I've been trying to think if there might be any other good ones, but all I can come up with at this time of the morning is " OUT ON A LAHM FOR JONI"........oooooo I know that was bad!!! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:55:04 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) <> Or how about: 1. Joni Mitchell's Reckless Jazz Daughter 2. Joni Mitchell, 'Lahminated' 3. A Leg O' Lahm, a Disc O' Joni :~P Bob NP: Paul Horn, "Blue" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:04:51 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: new to the list <> Welcome to you, Garrett! << I was wondering if anybody could tell me if there are any good books or biographys that i could read that would help to enlighten me some.>> I too would suggest firstly several long visits to JoniMitchell.com and also to Les' "Articles" section on jmdl.com. They are both excellent resources, organized and laid out in chronological fashion. And The JM Companion is excellent if you're like me and prefer to do your reading with a book in hand and not always staring at the screen... <> No need to ever apologize for a wonderful Joni post! Bob NP: Brian Kennedy, "ACOY" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:55:33 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) How about turning the double-entendre around this time ... JAZZ TAKES ON MORE JONI MITCHELL? Just a thought ... Don Rowe ===== "I want a stillness inside, and a quiet of mind, and to stop dreaming of the comfort of strangers." -- Julia Fordham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:15:19 -0800 From: Ken Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) I do like that pun! How about "Lahm Chops for Joni" or "Lahm's chops for Joni" or maybe "A Jazz Lahment for Joni Mitchell" FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > David writes: > > << The best I've been able to do so far is MORE JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL > or > (since four of my pieces will be on it as well) MORE THAN JAZZ TAKES ON > JONI > MITCHELL. >> > > I do like both of the titles that you've mentioned, and I've been trying to > think if there might be any other good ones, but all I can come up with at > this time of the morning is " OUT ON A LAHM FOR JONI"........oooooo I know > that was bad!!! > > Jimmy - -- (~~~) ( KEN ) ( * * ) ( * * ) (* *) ) ( ) ( |-| Back to the Shadows again |-| |=| |-| |-| |=| email = slarty@total.net |-| |-| web = http://www.total.net/~slarty/ (''| |'') ( ) ) ( ) ( ( ) ( ) ( ) `~ ~' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:22:58 -0500 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: "Confounding Expectations" All the UK reviews I've seen so far have been really positive. Mojo claims it "knocks George Michael's efforts into a pre-war trilby hat", saying that with this album Joni was "closer than ever to the terrain that great performers occupy". Whilst Q Magazine has used a none too flattering picture of Joni with the caption "Ever wondered what happened to Rick Wakeman's hair?", they still give the album a 4 star rating. However the one that has surprised (and pleased) me the most is in this week's 'Time Out', London's main listings magazine. Here's the full review, by Ross Fortune. "If you've nothing to say, why keep on saying it over and over. There's a calm dignity in silence. The '90s saw just three new releases from Joni Mitchell. Two were impressive if formulaic affairs. One sought to break free stylistically but fell flat and sounded a little feeble. News, then, that Mitchell's latest album was to be a collection of covers hardly inspired confidence. Particularly when - after similarly themed sets from George Michael and Bryan Ferry - it was revealed to be a selection of 'classic twentieth century love songs'. And yet, confounding expectations, the album is a masterpiece, her best since 'Hejira' in 1976. And her voice has never sounded better. Accompanied by a big band and orchestra (featuring Mark Isham, Herbie Hancock and Wayne Shorter), here are torch songs and standards ('Stormy Weather', 'You're my Thrill', 'Answer Me, My Love' etc) imbued with a richly romantic sense of grandeur and craft. She also covers a couple of her own songs (the title track and 'A Case of You'), both of which fall at what would have been the close of each side of a vinyl record. Indeed, recalling the great themed Sinatra albums of the '50s, the songs here have been chosen and programmed to trace the arc of a relationship. It is a very different affair from 'Mingus', her sincere but flawed first foray into jazz. Glorious, heartfelt, dramatic and sweeping, this is a beautifully realised work of timeless song and classic style." Time Out March 1-8 2000 PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:28:29 EST From: Dmascall@aol.com Subject: BSN Reviews - but with barbs The good old british tradition of the review with the kick at the end lives on. I've seen two reviews of BSN in the British press in the last few days. One in the Guardian was generally positive until the last sentence - which ran something like "but didn't Nelson Riddle do all of this 40 years ago?" The second I might have expected. I picked up a copy of "Q" magazine, spiritual home of the sniper and smart-ass, in a shop. They ran a very complimentary 4-starred review, but with a picture of flowing-locked Joni accompanying and a caption along the lines of "so this is what happened to Rick Wakeman's hair". Have I lost my sense of humour? David Mascall ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:42:07 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Roseanna interviews Joni! I was just about to turn off the TV when Donnie and Marie came on and said they would have Roseanna Arquette (spelling?) on today. Since I know she and Joni are pals I stayed tuned. It turns out Roseanna is starting a web site in a few weeks where she will be 'disc-jockey' and interviewer for some of her faves. She says she is a music fanatic and a frustrated disc-jocky. An interview with Peter Gabriel is reportedly in the can and she also mentioned she will be interviewing our Siquomb! I haven't looked for the site yet but we'll need to keep our eyes and ears pealed! - -- Phyliss Golden Fig Ceramics http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:49:09 -0800 From: jan gyn Subject: Re: Roseanna interviews Joni! At 10:42 AM 3/6/00 -0800, you wrote: >I was just about to turn off the TV when Donnie and Marie came on and >said they would have Roseanna Arquette (spelling?) on today. Since I >know she and Joni are pals I stayed tuned. It turns out Roseanna is >starting a web site in a few weeks where she will be 'disc-jockey' and >interviewer for some of her faves. She says she is a music fanatic and >a frustrated disc-jocky. An interview with Peter Gabriel is reportedly >in the can and she also mentioned she will be interviewing our Siquomb! >I haven't looked for the site yet but we'll need to keep our eyes and >ears pealed! >Phyliss Weren't Roseanna and Peter Gabriel and item in the late 80s? - -jan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:50:15 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: new to the list Welcome to the list, Garrett. Another great source of Joni info will be her autobiography, if she ever finishes it. We're all waiting. RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:47:22 -0000 From: "Matthew Hall" Subject: Re: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Forgot one more! where can you find the annie lennox version of ladies of the canyon? Is it on 'medusa'? Matthew NP: Fiona Apple - When The Pawn... - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 2:29 AM Subject: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Forgot one more! > Hello all: > Sorry forgot the best cover yet. Annie Lennox "Ladies of the Canyon" is > the best Joni cover Ive ever heard! Again you might already have this. I own > this too if you need it Bob? > Peace>>>Craig > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:35:59 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) Thanks, Randy. I like the JUNGLE LINE idea, but without her name in the title, it'll never be approved. My favorite ideas for the first one were all lyric quotes, like "renegade stories" but they had the same shortcoming. DL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:41:46 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Add ons if you dont already have them Oh man, I really hate to bring this up - I don't know if you're looking for "oldies" or new stuff, but there's an entity (for lack of a better name) called the BoomTang Boys (sp?) who have done a cover of "Both Sides Now". I don't know why they're called "Boys" (much less the BoomTang thang) since the only voice you hear and the only person you see on their videos is a girl named Kim Estey (Sp?) It's a dance-type version, Kim has a pretty voice, but apart from that, there's nothing remarkable about it - sounds kind of like the Judy Collins version, sped up a bit with one of those fake drum-beat thingies behind it. I don't know if you'd get this outside Canada since I think they're Canadian (but I'm not sure!) If you have a 12-year old in the house, your odds of hearing it increase substantially. If you're in or near Toronto and said 12-yr-old (whoa, she turned 13 on Feb 25, didn't she?) listens to CISS-FM, you've probably heard it, whether you wanted to or not. It's very current, so probably not what you're looking for, and I was going to avoid bringing the whole thing up at all, but what the hey... (BTW welcome GuruSmith...) - --- GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com wrote: > Hi fellow Joniheads: > Im new to the list and this is my first post. I > saw a short list of what > is going to be on the compilation and wondered if > you added "Blue" by Sarah > McLachlan & > A case of you by Tori Amos ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca (the former cateri@hotmail) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:53:31 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: new to the list Garret McD writes: >I read > both the "Joni as a gay icon" and "Joni's smoking" > threads with much > interest, but did not add to the discussions for > fear of my opinions not > being relevant, vaild or important enough to warrant > posting. First of all, welcome. Second, puhleez! Whatever you say couldn't possibly be any LESS relevant, valid or important than anything anyone else has to say (what??? Never mind...) (BTW, I tried the dog test and I ended up a chihuahua. I must tell you, I DETEST chihuahuas, therefore the god of silly computer tests must be punishing me for some transgression in a previous life. I also tried the IQ test and, even though I thought I was a genius, I was mistaken. I am SO disappointed.) ===== Catherine (in Toronto) catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca (the former cateri@hotmail) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:16:42 -0000 From: "Matthew Hall" Subject: Re: BSN Reviews - but with barbs > The second I might have expected. I picked up a copy of "Q" magazine, > spiritual home of the sniper and smart-ass, in a shop. They ran a very > complimentary 4-starred review, but with a picture of flowing-locked Joni > accompanying and a caption along the lines of "so this is what happened to > Rick Wakeman's hair". Have I lost my sense of humour? > > David Mascall yeah, but they do this with everyone, they always take the piss with a funny little caption - it's not supposed to be taken seriously or detract from the review. I thought the picture was nice anyway, and the caption funny. Matthew NP: Kate Bush 'The Red Shoes' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 00:35:37 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Forgot one more! I think it was just on a cd single Matthew Hall wrote: > where can you find the annie lennox version of ladies of the canyon? Is it > on 'medusa'? > > Matthew > NP: Fiona Apple - When The Pawn... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 2:29 AM > Subject: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Forgot one more! > > > Hello all: > > Sorry forgot the best cover yet. Annie Lennox "Ladies of the Canyon" > is > > the best Joni cover Ive ever heard! Again you might already have this. I > own > > this too if you need it Bob? > > Peace>>>Craig > > - -- To change the world-change your self "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 19:54:07 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Geffen article Last week Steve Polifka wrote: << The author is Tom King, and his book is called, "The Operator". There was also a characature diagram called the 6 Degrees of David Geffen- He set up a date for Warren Beatty with our Joni... >> I just read an article in People Magazine about the biography on Geffen. I was aware of his relationship with Joni and Asylum Records, "Free Man in Paris", etc...., but until I read some of the other JMDL posts (which weren't so flattering to Geffen) plus this article, I had no idea what a control freak he was/is. The article quotes the author "He'll sabotage any relationship, personal or professional, to get what he wants." I'm sure it's another one of those gossipy books, but the article has a nice photo of Joni and Geffen from 1973, which I'll scan and post on Catgirl's joni-list. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:01:21 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Add ons if you dont already hav... In a message dated 3/6/00 3:59:48 PM US Central Standard Time, catrin_of_aragon@yahoo.ca writes: << Oh man, I really hate to bring this up - I don't know if you're looking for "oldies" or new stuff, but there's an entity (for lack of a better name) called the BoomTang Boys (sp?) who have done a cover of "Both Sides Now". >> Catherine, new or old doesn't matter to me...like I said, the collection will have songs from the 60's on up through the 90's, and even maybe a cover or two from 2000!. If you have this "BoomTang Boys" version of BSN and wish to contribute to the ever-burgeoning boxset, let me know... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:29:53 -0500 From: "cassy" Subject: #32 on the Top 100 of all time I've been watching VH-1's presentation of the top 100 Rock and Rollers of all time, as voted by their peers.... at #32 our very own Joni Mitchell; a short, but sweet, glmpse of her career. Catch the reruns if you missed it, the entire line up has been like a trip down memory lane. Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:36:57 EST From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: Lennox cover of Joni's Ladies of the Canyon Matt Right now I believe the only place to find Anne Lennox's version of Ladies of the Canyon is on a b-side from her single "No more I Love You's". It is my favorite Joni cover. Although that might change once I hear Bob's great comp's! I still see the single around once in a while. Hope this helps! Peace>>Craig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 18:38:27 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: the sequel to JAZZ TAKES (sjc) How about 'Joni Mitchell From the Jazz Side Now' or 'Jazz for Joni Mitchell Fans' or 'Jazz Take On Joni Mitchell Again' or 'Jazz For Distingue Joni Mitchell Lovers' Mark in Seattle > Six of the seven JM tunes are now completed and I am very, very happy with > what I'm hearing. Now I'd like some suggestions for the title. It must > include the words "JONI MITCHELL" (duh) and can't be too cumbersomely long. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:41:32 EST From: GuruDJSmithmix@aol.com Subject: Bob, The Jungleline? Bob & All: Did "The Jungleline" by Thomas Dolby make the cut for the Comp.? I have that too!!!>>>The Guru DJ Smithmix (Craig) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:40:28 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Covers Project Update (Long but all Joni)/Add ons if you dont already hav... I haven't been following this thread too carefully, but has the c.1970 recording of Urge for Going by Theo Bikel been noted? LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 01:00:14 EST From: MDESTE1@aol.com Subject: Re: #32 on the Top 100 of all time Any poll that places the Police ahead of Stevie Wonder I have to wonder about. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 07:14:54 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: FW: #32 on the Top 100 Stevie and Joni (SJC) Speaking of Mr Wonder. About the time that WTRF came out Joni did a 'special' on BBC Radio one. It was called My Top Ten. I recorded it from the radio for no other reason than hearing Joni speak. Her voice in coversation was as rare as hen's teeth in those days in Britain. One of the songs she chose to play as one of her top ten songs was Stevie Wonder's 'That Girl'. Listening to it used to make the hair on the back of my neck especially when he broke into the chorus. I've never been able to find this song on an album release and wondered if anyone knew which one it was on. By the way, another track that she played was Edith Piaf's Les Trois Cloches. She used that song to illustrate the influence it brought to a song she wrote for the WTRF collection but which didn't surface until NRH where it had become 'Two Grey Rooms'. She played this earlier version which featured a scat vocal and was light-heartedly called 'Speechless'. She said at the time that because of the 'french diphthong' present in the 'singing' she hoped to put a french lyric to it. Other music in the show, so far as I can remember, were, You've Changed sung by Billie Holliday, Nefertiti by Miles Davis, a Peter Gabriel song - I think it was Shoot the Monkey(?) and Stravinsky's Rite of Spring. Oh yes and I have to agree with the attached observation regarding Stevie and the Police..........no arguement from me on that one. - -----Original Message----- From: MDESTE1@aol.com [mailto:MDESTE1@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 06:00 To: cassysweet@email.msn.com; Joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: #32 on the Top 100 of all time Any poll that places the Police ahead of Stevie Wonder I have to wonder about. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #90 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?