From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #81 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, February 27 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 081 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- re: Crosby (VLJC) [FredNow@aol.com] $25 Super Certificate for Survey (Barnes & Noble) [mann@chicagonet.net] BSN review in UK Daily Telegraph [Gertus@aol.com] Even MORE Joni in People Magazine w/David Geffen [mann@chicagonet.net] Henry Diltz show [Deb Messling ] Re: Both Sides Now [MGVal@aol.com] Joni in Rolling Stone [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Smoking and Joni [Jim Gaertner ] Joni Contibutes [RIKandBRAD@aol.com] Beg, borrow or steal [Gertus@aol.com] BSN review [Jerry Notaro ] Interview with Joni in Saturdays Times Magazine [Marsglobe@aol.com] SMOKING.....who cares??? [Bounced Message ] london times ["gene mock" ] Re: BSN review ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Joni Contibutes ["Mark or Travis" ] This Just In [Michael Paz ] Re: london times hooray ["Matthew Hall" ] Joni's Granddaughter [leslie@torchsongs.com] Re: Joni Contibutes [Randy Remote ] Re: Joni Contibutes [Phyliss Ward ] Re: london times hooray [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Joni Contibutes [AzeemAK@aol.com] Turned away from the list by negative postings... [Bounced Message ] Re: Henry Diltz on TLC [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Kyle Eastwood [Seanapper@aol.com] Re: Unsung melodies [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Unsung melodies [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Henry Diltz on TLC/Chicago Radio [Scott and Jody ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:19:36 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: re: Crosby (VLJC) "Ray & Cathy" wrote: > > >Steve, that's a good question! I just always assumed it was Joni, >and have never even heard of Laura Allen. Maybe Fred Simon >knows the answer??? Remote is right, there's no dulcimer on Music Is Love. Well, I did say I wasn't positive. Laura Allen is a singer/songwriter that David Crosby was extolling back in the day, and justifiably so. I heard her open a Crosby/Nash show in 1973 in San Francisco, and she was wonderful. Don't know what she's up to these days. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 04:29:59 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: $25 Super Certificate for Survey (Barnes & Noble) If you have any interest in this at all .....do it quick as the offer can be pulled at anytime. "You snooze you lose" Go to: http://refresh.shopping.com/survey.sdc and take a short survey. For your time you'll get a $25 Super Certificate from GiftCertificates.com They do have Barnes & Noble Gift Certificates that, I believe, you take to the actual store..........not to be used online. Here is a list of all the stores you can choose a Gift Certificate from http://www.giftcertificates.com/index.shtml?siteID=bdshpin25sthnkhtxgc Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 06:10:39 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: BSN review in UK Daily Telegraph BSN gets a reasonable review in today's Daily Telegraph. It's in the Pop cd section, rather than Jazz, along with Oasis, Smashing Pumpkins and Eels. "You might think that an album entitled Both Sides Now after one of her best-known early songs would be a "Greatest Hits" but you'd be wrong. Instead the former trilling folkie and one of the most distinguished singer-songwriters to emerge during the cust of the late Sixties and early Seventies, has assembled a selection of songs from pre-rock Broadway tradition, garnished with her own A Case of You and the new title track, into a lush song-cycle charting the arc of a love affair, from infatuation to disaffection. And lush it is, featuring a rhythm section anchored by former Weather Report drummer Peter Erskine, and his saxophonist ex-colleague Wayne Shorter as featured soloist, plus a huge orchestra including 28 violins, 8 violas, 7 cellos, 6 clarinets, 2 bass trombones and a partridge in a pear tree. Laudably, Mitchell eschews the obvious repetory and composers: apart from her own entries, the highest recognition factors probably belong to Rodgers anf Hart's "I wish I were in love again"(with its unforgettable rhyme, "When love congeals/it soon reveals/the faint aroma of performing seals", and a piano cameo from Herbie Hancock) and Harold Arlen's Stormy Weather, co-arranged by Gordon Jenkins, who did such sterling service for Frank Sinatra during his Capitol years. And it's all beautifully sung, with an intriguing hint of Billy Hollidayesque astringency tempering Mitchells trademark sweetness and limpidity. If you've ever had a fantasy of being a melancholy Manhattan sophisticate in an Upper East Side penthouse circa 1956, here's your soundrack." CSM Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 05:58:51 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Even MORE Joni in People Magazine w/David Geffen The newest People magazine (March 6 issue) page 145, under BOOK BONUS, has an article about David Geffen. It starts out: David Geffen, 57, has been stoking the star-making machinery of pop culture for 3 decades. In the '70's as head of Asylum Records, he boosted the careers of singers Laura Nyro, Joni Mitchell, Jackson Brown and the Eagles................ Page 146 has a b&w picture of David & Joni..... the caption underneath, "Friend Joni Mitchell (in 1973) paid homage to Geffen in her song Free Man in Paris." This article is about his love affair w/Cher ........."Geffen began managing all things, big and small, in Cher's life. He rented a house for her and made sure her white Porsche Daytona was always filled with gas. He advised her to finish the current season of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour and said he would arrange to get her a solo TV show. He envisioned making Cher a classier act, singing the songs of people he represented, such as Jackson Browne and Joni Mitchell." It's pretty juicy! This is the third or fourth week in a row I've heard another Joni song........shopping in the Dominick's food store..........Joni singing Circle Games came on! 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(seen in People magazine) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 07:35:54 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Henry Diltz show A reminder to those stateside that "California Rock: Under the Covers" is scheduled to air today on TLC, 9 PM EST. Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ I love cats. They give the home a heartbeat. - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:27:48 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: Both Sides Now In a message dated 2/25/00 10:10:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, cassysweet@email.msn.com writes: << Regarding the general release disc, I am still wondering whether it will have the same art on the actual disc as the L.E. ... I just got an advance copy from a friend of mine who knows how much I like Joni and the disc is all black with bronze writing on it... I'm curious as to whether this is how the majority of the discs will be printed? Anyone know? >> I have that same disc. Black with the bronze. Doesn't yours say "promotional copy, not for resale?" I asked purchasing at work about it and they seemed to think that the "general" release will have the picture on the top of the CD. I think that Don Rowe asked "whuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz up" about reviews not mentioning the skip-to-my-lou disc qualities that so many list members have experienced. And I think that they've not had any skips because they listened to the advance copy which was not distributed floating around in the box. The advance copy comes in a small, brown outer sleeve and a soft paper inner sleeve. I ordered my limited edition and received it floating around in the box with the scratches. My advance copy was pristine as could be. It almost sounds as though the rush to get the limited edition to the market for Valentine's Day had a less than thought out approach to box design. I bet that we won't see that same problem with the general release and its use of the standard jewel case.... MG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:42:57 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Joni in Rolling Stone Laura already sent along the 3-Star review that RS gives BSN. They also feature a really nice b&w photo of Joni. Boy, I sure would love to see a cover story, but I suppose Joni has no interest in being a subject of an RS interview... Bob NP: Steely Dan, "Haitian Divorce" (love the way Fagan says 'it changed...it grew'...) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:27:55 -0500 From: Jim Gaertner Subject: Smoking and Joni As an ex-smoker, I can only assume the real reason Joni smokes is the same reason that I did it so devotedly for twenty years: I enjoyed it, and nobody was going to tell me what was right or wrong for me. I won't comment on the amount of self-deception or rationalization that lay behind that statement. Suffice to say, when I tried to quit, I suddenly realized that it was more than my mere enjoyment of smoking that really drove the habit. Having said that, I would like to relate the following about a singer (also a serious Joni fan) I dated for a couple of years. She once volunteeered to me that she would never quit because it made her voice deeper, richer. She said she wouldn't be surprised if Joni felt the same way. To illustrate, she played old copies of her music, and then current, and then proceeded to do the same with Joni's. She thought her own voice sounded too nasal and Minnie Mouse-ish when she was younger, and preferred the sound of her more mature, sexier, "smokier" voice. All I could tell her was that the process of maturization might have produced the same effect, without possibly doing damage to her vocal chords, lungs, etc. Since that time, however, I have wondered if what she said about Joni feeling the same way has at least some validity. All I know is that yes, Joni is probably a bit headstrong about quitting, but she is also one smart cookie. Perhaps she too prefers her more "smokier" voice. This is not a judgement, but merely an observation. Perhaps other singers on the List have encountered this attitude before in the profession. (My friend also commented that if she quit, nobody would hire her because she would immediately gain 30 pounds, and suddenly those black spandex pants become your enemy. But that is another story for another time.) Jim in A2 (NP-Sarah Vaughan "The George Gerswin Songbook" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:44:07 EST From: RIKandBRAD@aol.com Subject: Joni Contibutes Hello everyone: I have been on the list about six months now and have learned so much from you all. Thanks so much for the thought provoking and informative posts. I have a few questions for anyone who may have time to answer. First, sometimes in posts, I see words framed with an *. It would look like *this*. What does that mean? Second, I am very interested in work where JM was a contributing artist. I was doing a TotalE (www.totale.com) search on music where Ms. JM was such and was astounded by the number of works in which she appeared as a guest artist. One of which was an artist by the name of Kyle Eastwood - album was "From There to Here." Produced by Klein, JM on vocals with Diana King and Julia Forham also on vocals. Anyone familiar with this Eastwood guy? The CD sounds kinda cool. I also noticed JM contributed to Joan Baez's Diamond and Rust - anyone know in what way? Finally, she contributed to another Klein co-production Shawn Colvin - Fat City has JM on background vocals - anyone know the cool factor of this work? BTW - TotalE has BSNLE for $34.98 with $1 shipping. Maybe it's a sale on the scratched up ones we all returned. Thanks, my good pals for your help. RickyRacer Casa Alegre Hollywood, California ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:15:18 EST From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Beg, borrow or steal You have to get hold of a copy of the UK Times magazine for today, 26th Feb. The fron cover is Joni and inside there is a wonderful article illustrated with photographs taken at Bel Air hotel. LA, plus lots of older ones including one with Kilauren and Marlin. The article is by Alan Jackson and is called "The new Joni Mitchell". It takes up 7 pages. Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:22:46 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: BSN review This wonderful review was written by an old friend of mine in my hometown's newspaper. It has some gorgeous photos in it and is full paged. Les, I'm sending it to you. My wonderful Aunt whom I turned on to Joni way back when sent it to me. Copyright 2000 The Buffalo News   The Buffalo News February 20, 2000, Sunday, FINAL EDITION FOLK LEGEND MITCHELL PUTS A JAZZY SPIN ON HER MILESTONE CAREER BYLINE: JEFF SIMON; News Recordings Editor BODY: She was the first, the Mother of Them All. Without her, it's likely there never would have been an Ani DeFranco or Tori Amos or Victoria Williams or Aimee Mann or Suzanne Vega or Tracey Chapman or Alanis Morrisette or any of the Liliths who got their traveling music fair together. And, lest we forget, without her song, "Chelsea Morning," Bill and Hillary Clinton would certainly have found another name for their only daughter. Joni Mitchell was the Guinevere of folk/rock, the archetypal poet/songwriter/singer, the female gender of which "Bob Dylan" is the male. (The difference, always, was that no one ever doubted for a minute that Joni Mitchell could sing.) She was the musical Guinevere who made would-be Lancelots weak in the knees. To some, she still is. At the age of 56, Mitchell has just entered a new professional life and done something largely unprecedented. The disc on which she's done it is, I think, a landmark of American vernacular music. It's called "Both Sides Now" (Reprise) and, while limited deluxe editions are available now, it goes on sale in early March. What Joni Mitchell has done that's unprecedented is this: the seminal singer/songwriter has, in one disc, transformed herself into a great interpreter. In one disc, she has become a truly great artist of jazz/pop. It is, I think, a masterpiece of a sort. And it's been a longtime coming, a lifetime in fact. We're not talking here about Joni the Jazz Singer who first revealed herself cutely singing Annie Ross' "Twisted" on "Court and Spark" and made the eternally interesting but unsatisfactory "Mingus" with a dying Charles Mingus. She didn't really "get it" on "Mingus." She was looking at it all from the wrong side. She thought she could bring her extraordinary art as a folk/rock poet to jazz. She couldn't. She was right, the first time, with "Twisted." It just took her until now to realize it, eliminate the cutes and fulfill the implications. What's happening on "Both Sides Now" is that all of her profound art as a singer/songwriter has gone into making her a magnificent jazz/pop interpreter. There is a life below the surface here - from polio at age 9 to serial lovers as pop music's fabled "Don Juan's Restless Daughter" to the real thirtysomething daughter she gave up for adoption and reunited with a couple of years ago. The early press returns are either magnificent or middling. Those who think it middling tend to be those who don't know what they're hearing. It's the pop corollary of Santayana's Law: those who don't know the past are condemned to think that all repetition is nostalgia. "Both Sides Now" is no more a "waltz through nostalgia" or "mere curio" (as Entertainment Weekly called it) than it is a great modern performance of "Death of a Salesman" or "The Emperor Jones." Mitchell is assuming what jazz singers always assume: that there is something called a classic repertoire of popular and jazz standards in America. And to that repertoire, she is bringing every fiber of her life and her talent and her musical experience. The most obvious referent is Billie Holiday's classic "Lady in Satin." Her melodic phrasing is, obviously, based on Billie Holiday's. And Vince Mendoza's utterly extraordinary string arrangements were clearly meant to rival Ray Ellis' on "Lady in Satin" (in fact, they far surpass them). But Mitchell's breathy alto obviously owes a huge debt to Nat "King" Cole, too. Her dry vibrato has a lot of Cole's honey-roasted sound and she even sings one Cole tune "Answer Me My Love." She caresses some of these notes Cole's way, not Holiday's. And, as only great artists can, she still remains Joni Mitchell throughout. In one disc, she has surpassed in depth all the reigning current jazz vocalists except Andy Bey. The forces Mitchell marshaled were as extraordinary as the disc - not just Mendoza, an arranger/keyboardist who surpassed all previous expectations, but the legendary Beatles producer George Martin, the strings of the London Symphony Orchestra, jazz pianist Herbie Hancock and her old friend and collaborator, the great jazz saxophonist Wayne Shorter of Weather Report and Miles Davis Quintet fame. Mendoza's string arrangements abound in sudden modal codas and luxuriant wit. He has gone Gordon Jenkins one better (and, on one tune, had Jenkins' help); he has consciously used the resources of a modern symphony orchestra to apply reverence to this music and imply the status of modern classic to it. Just as Joe Namath once said "it ain't bragging if you can do it," Mendoza could easily say, "it's not pretentiousness if you can carry it off and make it real." He carries it off in spades. On his few brief appearances here, Wayne Shorter becomes, for Joni Mitchell, part of what Lester Young was for Billie Holiday. His contributions are neither large nor frequent but they are artful and brilliant, suggesting the yearnings for something greater that underlie the whole project. Nothing that she sings on "Both Sides Now" is even close to formulaic. Every song has been thoroughly re-imagined. "You're My Thrill" is worthy to stand next to Ray Charles. "Comes Love," one of the wittier standards, is taken almost straight, even the line "comes a mousie/you can chase him with a broom." Harold Arlen's "Stormy Weather," on the other hand, has a wink of sly wit all through it, as if she's telling us that she knows more than she should about Hollywood and Lena Horne. Listen to "You've Changed" for a specimen of jazz/pop as exceptional as "You're My Thrill." When the great jazz saxophonist Dexter Gordon played it at the original Tralfamadore on Main and Fillmore as part of his 1976 tour, he preceded it by explaining that he always heeded Lester Young's admonition that all jazz instrumentalists should know the words to songs they play. He then proceeded to prove it by reciting, through billows of cigarette smoke and heavy-lidded eyes, the first two verses in a mock-bedroom basso that rivaled Barry White's: "You've changed. Your smile is just a careless yawn/You're breaking my heart/You've changed/You've changed/Your kisses now are so blase/You're bored with me in every way/You've changed." What Gordon proceeded to take apart and lovingly and jaggedly reassemble, Mitchell reinforces by remelodizing and meaning every word. On this and "You're My Thrill" and "At Last" (with double-time piano plinking a la '50s doowop), she is extraordinary. But it's on two of her own songs on "Both Sides Now" that Mitchell shows you how she has re-created herself as a great interpreter of American popular song. When she sings "I Could Drink A Case of You" (from "Blue"), the thirst of it is abject. (Her sudden interpolation of "Oh! Canada" seems close to a retch of disgust now.) And she ends it with the title song, her best known, a song written by a wildly talented but slightly pretentious young woman in her 20s. She's interpreting it now, finding how much more meaning it has now, three decades later. What you're hearing now is a woman who, in the '80s and most of the '90s, stopped appearing live because the debilitating symptoms of what's called Post-Polio Syndrome made it impossible; a woman who finally reunited with the only daughter she'd had and given up for adoption decades before. And when Wayne Shorter plays a yelping saxophone obligato, you're hearing a musician who lost his wife and manager aboard TWA Flight 800. "But now old friends are acting strange/they shake their heads, they say I've changed/Well something's lost but something's gained/by living every day." You can, believe me, hear Joni Mitchell and Wayne Shorter together for a month and still have trouble keeping a dry eye. It's a milestone disc for Mitchell and, I think, for American music. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:56:22 EST From: Marsglobe@aol.com Subject: Interview with Joni in Saturdays Times Magazine Hi everyone, I'm Adam in London, and have been lurking for ooooh.....forever :) I thought I'd uncloak from cyberspace to say that todays London Times ran a really good feature about Joni by the journalist Alan Jackson. Excuse me if this is old news as I'm a bit backlogged with posts. Anywho it's a great interview over five pages and includes some really good pictures by Graham Wood taken at the Bel Air Hotel LA. Joni looking cool in a Yamamoto dress and discussing the general critical "rehabilitation" she's undergoing currently. Also getting older, ("I'm an old babe now. I'm of an age when husbands run away with younger models") her daughter and her painting and her albums. It's really sweet when the interview ends with Alan Jackson saying "You see? ... You're loved. People live their lives with your music as a soundtrack. I have"... "Come here" Joni Mitchell commands rising from her seat. "You need to be given a hug" Awwwwwww :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:51:24 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: SMOKING.....who cares??? Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:51:54 -0500 From: Matt Jones Geeze Louise!!! I wish you'd all just retract your claws! I thought this discussion was about Joni's smoking. I am growing weary of all these personal attacks. As a non-smoker, I know how annoyed I get when I have to be around smoking, and I know how annoyed my allergies get, too!! However, I am sure that I (as well as every other smoker and non-smoker!) have habits or behavior that annoys someone else. If you don't like smoke, avoid establishments that allow smoking. If you don't like non-smokers, avoid them. I have friends of either persuasion, and we all manage to get along! I think you're all acting like a bunch of adolescents! I am GLAD Joni does not sub.scribe to this list because right now I am embarassed to be part of something that perpetuates such juvenille behavior! The fact is some people are going to smoke, despite what anyone says, and some people are not going to smoke. Potential health risks aside, is it really that big a deal? Personally, I'd rather have something more pleasant in my inbox than all these negative posts! Let's get back to the real reason we're here: JONI MITCHELL!!! SIDE NOTE: My gratitude goes out to all those who have helped me with my book on Joni!!!!! Work is going full steam....right now I am dealing with DJRD and the music involved... much love to you all!!! Matt J. in Athens, GA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:32:11 -0800 From: "gene mock" Subject: london times fyi from the london times JONI MITCHELL (9/10) Both Sides Now (Reprise) UNLIKE BRYAN FERRY'S recent lame album of Thirties standards, Mitchell's reinventions of romantic songs made famous by the likes of Sinatra, Nat King Cole and Ella Fitzgerald is an unexpectedly thrilling and cliché-free affair. While you might want to hear her singing new compositions, these days her voice has a smoky expressiveness that is perfect for this material. She oozes a mature sensuality, the arrangements are inventive and the songs are cleverly sequenced to track the rise and fall of a modern romance, from the intoxicating rush of You're My Thrill to the world- weary Stormy Weather. She also offers orchestral remakes of two of her own songs. The title track is the album's one failure, but A Case of You, originally on Blue, is quite lovely. - NW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:43:59 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: BSN review This wonderful review was written by an old friend of mine in my hometown's newspaper. It has some gorgeous photos in it and is full paged. Les, I'm sending it to you. My wonderful Aunt whom I turned on to Joni way back when sent it to me. Jerry, Thank you so much for posting this! Except for that little reference to the 'Folk legend', I agreed with just about everything this person had to say. I really think Joni's vocal performances on BSN are extraordinary. Unlike some singers who attempt this type of material, she really seems to know what she's doing and she does it brilliantly, still managing to maintain her own very unique persona & style throughout. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:53:42 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni Contibutes > One of which was an artist by the name of Kyle Eastwood - album was "From > There to Here." Produced by Klein, JM on vocals with Diana King and Julia > Forham also on vocals. Anyone familiar with this Eastwood guy? The CD > sounds kinda cool. I don't have this cd but I do know that Kyle is the son of Clint Eastwood. Joni sings the Marvin Gaye song 'Trouble Man'. > > I also noticed JM contributed to Joan Baez's Diamond and Rust - anyone know > in what way? Joni duetted with Joan on the song 'Dida'. Basically all this ditty consists of is Ms. Baez singing the syllables 'dee-dah' or 'la-la-la-la-la' with Joni improvising a kind of response, backup thing. Sometimes they harmonize and it's really very pretty. > > Finally, she contributed to another Klein co-production Shawn Colvin - Fat > City has JM on background vocals - anyone know the cool factor of this work? Don't know this one at all but I did learn from this discussion list that Shawn Colvin used Joni & Klein's at-home recording studio for one of her albums and I assume it was this one. The last we heard, Joni was turning the recording studio into a painting studio. > > BTW - TotalE has BSNLE for $34.98 with $1 shipping. Maybe it's a sale on the > scratched up ones we all returned. CDNow also has it on sale for this price. I wrote them an email & asked if they had any kind of price guarantee. Basically they said, sorry but your order is already processed & the item wasn't on sale at the time but we will give you a $5.00 credit to use whenever you want to. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:28:31 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: This Just In Hey Folks- I have received a set of tapes from a fellow member of the Lee Shore list. It is from a Westbury, NY show dates 9-8-74. (There is also some filler on the final tape from shows on 10-4-73 and 12/71) There is alot of Joni content on this concert. You can hear her singing on alot of the songs. The performance as a whole is kinda rough, but it is very cool. You can hear chatting away and having a good time between songs. I am wondering if there is some interest in these tapes, I would be willing to offer my copies up to someone to try and clean them up and turn them into a CD tree. Any ambitious folks out there with plenty of time on their hands. Have a wonderful weekend! Michael (Backstreet Boys Bound again with 3 kids in tow) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:41:21 -0000 From: "Matthew Hall" Subject: Re: london times hooray Hooray. I actually work in a big newsagents (i'm taking a year out before uni) and on a Saturday it really pisses me off because we always got loads of old women bringing their papers up to the counter and asking us to check if all the supplements are in there (a lot, i can assure you), anyway, today this woman was having a little moan about the papers and the supplements and I had a little flick through for her and out fell Joni on the 'times' magazine! I was in a good mood for the rest of the day - and it is the best interview I've read. I love Alan Jackson (the interviewer); he is such a good reviewer because he actually reviews the music rather than the artist and also he gave 'ray of light' ten out of ten when it came out, but anyway, I could tell he'd obviously done his research (he quotes from 'sweet bird') but I wasn't sure if he was a fan and then, as Adam said, right at the end came: "You see? ... You're loved. People live their lives with your music as a soundtrack. I have..." "Come here" Joni Mitchell commands rising from her seat. "You need to be given a hug" Joni had already mentioned why she felt some of the accolades she's recieved in the 90s where given for the wrong reasons, and how she is most touched when a fan comes up to her (she always hugs them in response) and I thought it was very touching to finally read someone who understood her (even though he did get the title of 'facelift' wrong, but i'll let him off) and then there was a review of BSN and it got 9/10, and that was by a different reviewer. I am so excited for Monday, and Fiona Apple's album is out then too... Matthew NP: Night Ride Home ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 14:07:48 -0800 (PST) From: leslie@torchsongs.com Subject: Joni's Granddaughter I remember reading that Kilauren's new daughter (born last June) was named, Daisy Joan. Is that confirmed anywhere or in the JMDL archives? Leslie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 14:10:07 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni Contibutes > Second, I am very interested in work where JM was a contributing artist. I > was doing a TotalE (www.totale.com) search on music where Ms. JM was such and > was astounded by the number of works in which she appeared as a guest artist. The joni website has a list of her contributions on other people's albums, which is, I think, fairly complete. It is either jonimitchell.com or jmdl.com. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:14:13 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Joni Contibutes regarding Fat City, Mark wrote: > Don't know this one at all but I did learn from this discussion list > that Shawn Colvin used Joni & Klein's at-home recording studio for one > of her albums and I assume it was this one. The last we heard, Joni > was turning the recording studio into a painting studio. I recently bought this CD and really like it. The only Joni participation I saw mentioned was that she can be heard 'clapping' on one cut. Not much better than nothing ; - ). But she does say in the liner notes: " To Joni Mitchell: you master, me wimp" : - ) - -- Phyliss Golden Fig Ceramics http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:20:04 -0800 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: london times hooray Matthew Hall wrote: > Joni had already mentioned why she felt some of the accolades she's recieved > in the 90s where given for the wrong reasons, and how she is most touched > when a fan comes up to her (she always hugs them in response) Wow Matthew, thanks for that. It really brings back the day when I met Joni and went up to her mumbling something incoherent about how much I loved her music. She gave me a huge hug! Little did I know this was her modis operandi... - -- Phyliss Golden Fig Ceramics http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:57:57 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Contibutes In a message dated 26/02/00 14:47:55 GMT Standard Time, RIKandBRAD@aol.com writes: << Finally, she contributed to another Klein co-production Shawn Colvin - Fat City has JM on background vocals - anyone know the cool factor of this work? >> As a big Shawn Colvin, I'd like to give this wonderful album a hearty plug. Shawn Colvin is a superb singer, songwriter and guitarist, who has spoken many times of her great admiration for Joni, and to me is one of the few current performers who's right up there in the top league. In fact I'd go as far as to say that her last-but-one album, "A Few Small Repairs", is one of the best albums of the last decade, and would get a higher place in my personal best-of-the-90s list than any of Joni's. Azeem in London NP: Pooka - This River - just finishing you tape Catgirl, it's the last song! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:33:32 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: Turned away from the list by negative postings... Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 17:13:26 -0500 From: Matt Jones Look, to everyone who keeps bitching at me for voicing my opinion about this smoking discussion......I am sorry for voicing my opinion. My intention was NOT to get things started up again. I merely tried to make the point that some people are going to smoke...some are not. Each side needs to get over the fact that the opposing side is in opposition to them....geeze! did that even make sense??? hahaha... Thanks for all personal attacks via email that I've recieved. way to make a newcomer feel welcome. I did not realize you all felt so passionately about one another's smoking habits. Excuse me for wanting to discuss Joni and not your nicotine intake. I *must* have signed up for the wrong list....I will be leaving this one. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:26:41 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Judy Collins's Home Page One sight I visit alot is The Judy Collins Home Page.I would guess that many people on here would be interested.There is a discussion forum where people discuss issues related to Judy Collins,and often Judy responds to her fans on the board.The adress is:http://www.judycollins.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 18:13:37 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Henry Diltz on TLC It's on right now !! (in the Eastern USA) And it's great, so far. Only 10 minutes in, and there have been many shots of Joni with CSN, shooting the cover to their first album! The vcr is rolling! Laurel Canyon next !! Later, Brian nw: TLC (Of course) ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 21:31:21 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Henry Diltz on TLC Thanks for the tv tip Brian! I have it on and just got a glimpse of Joni's "Blue" album.......and Kakki was right, he does look like Nick Nolte. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:06:48 EST From: Seanapper@aol.com Subject: Re: Kyle Eastwood RickyRacer wrote: "One of which was an artist by the name of Kyle Eastwood - album was "From There to Here." Produced by Klein, JM on vocals with Diana King and Julia Forham also on vocals. Anyone familiar with this Eastwood guy? The CD sounds kinda cool." It is kinda cool. I just listened to it again this afternoon. Joni does only one song on the cd: Trouble Man. Of course, it's great. Neil in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:38:15 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Unsung melodies In a message dated 2/25/00 10:39:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, DC200009@Exchange.AtlantaGA.NCR.com writes: << I know I would definitley love to hear Joni sing her old songs. >> Some of these, even many of these, are available on the Joni tape trees. I know I have heard Joni sing more than a dozen of these soings on those tapes. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 23:42:48 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Unsung melodies In a message dated 2/25/00 11:21:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, DC200009@Exchange.AtlantaGA.NCR.com writes: << Do you think there's a way to convince Joni to record these? It would be wonderful! >> No, I think it would be somewhat insulting to her to even try, actually -- implying that she has not been able to write anything better in 30+ years. Be thankful there are recordings of many of them and leave it be. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:57:25 -0600 From: Scott and Jody Subject: Re: Henry Diltz on TLC/Chicago Radio Thanks Brian, I heard Henry Diltz on Chicago talk radio this morning. When asked what his favorite album cover was that he was involved in, he replied, "Crosby,Stills and Nash". He said that was his favorite. Those three guys sitting on the couch, outside their house. He said he loved it for it's textural quality - Non glossy -Very grainy - Down to earth. He mentioned Joni but didn't expand. It was a brief phone call interview. When asked what his favorite album cover was that he didn't shoot, he replied, "The White Album" of course. ;-) jody ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:31:24 -0500 From: "Patricia O'Connor" Subject: Re: Unsung melodies - ----- Original Message ----- > In a message dated 2/25/00 11:21:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Paul IV writes: > << Do you think there's a way to convince Joni to record these? It would be > wonderful! >> > No, I think it would be somewhat insulting to her to even try, actually -- > implying that she has not been able to write anything better in 30+ years. Be > thankful there are recordings of many of them and leave it be. > > Paul I Why insulting? I don't think that Joni has said that her newer songs are BETTER than her older songs. After all the 2 songs she chose to re-record for BSN are both over 30 years old. Would it have been better to have been thankful they had been recorded and to let them be? 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