From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #77 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 24 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 077 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: One down, ?? to go [FredNow@aol.com] Judges in black and white ["Raffaele Malanga" ] Re: Joni Tribute in Various Musical Styles [philipf@tinet.ie] Re: One down, ?? to go [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] "Busted!" -- My Conversation with Peter Erskine [Don Rowe ] Re: One down, ?? to go ["Catherine McKay" ] Re: What's a good Carly Simon to buy? [RIKandBRAD@aol.com] Re: Bob's "Covers and Contributions" project [FMYFL@aol.com] Haven;t we Waited Long Enough? [NathanLaFraneer@aol.com] Re: I made a BSN conversion! [Joseph Davis ] Fwd: Joni Sec fret Cd's [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Fwd: policies Joni sec fret!! [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: wally k [CaTGirl627@aol.com] TURBLULENT INDIGO, NIGHT RIDE HOME [dave fairall / beth miller ] Re: Kakki [AsharaJM@aol.com] Joni object sighting [Seanapper@aol.com] People and Songs 2-24-2000 [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni object sighting [CaTGirl627@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:07:39 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: One down, ?? to go SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >And it's not too late to contribute - if you have some Joni covers in the >closet somewhere, just let me know! So far I've got about 3 CD's worth! You mentioned The Byrds, so I assume you have their version of For Free from their reunion album. On the same album is another version of Crosby's Laughing, although I much prefer the one on his "solo" album If I Could Only Remember My Name, which is one of my all time faves. Here's a few more great covers: 1) All I Want - Keith Jarrett, The Mourning Of A Star 2) All I Want - Ross Traut/Steve Rodby (Pat Metheny bass player), The Great Lawn 3) My Old Man - Fred Hersch, Let Yourself Go And, although admittedly falling headlong into the category of Shameless-Self-Promotion (yes, but if not me then who?), there are three Joni covers on a solo piano album I am in the process of completing titled Songs Of My Youth, Vol. 1: Both Sides Now, For Free, and Michael From Mountains. Also some Dylan, Beatles, Beethoven, and my own homage to Ravel. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 03:04:16 PST From: "Raffaele Malanga" Subject: Judges in black and white The JMDL is a community, right? And, as any community, there are clear patterns of behaviour among its members as consequences of pride, accomplicity, indignation, offence, defence, compassion, etc. Although it’s not long that I am on this list, I was not surprised by the few episodes that have happened so far: people signing off, squabbles, disagreements and so on. It’s human and, as humans, we are so firm in our beliefs and opinions that sometimes forget that almost nothing is black and white; in fact, I think we live most of our lives in shades of grey, where only few things are certain (taxes, death and trouble, I guess...). One thing we JMDLers have in common: our love for Joni Mitchell’s work. But this doesn’t necessarily mean that we should be living in a totalitarian society, where one should be afraid of a Big Brother watching over what is said or not said. I have to admit of being an *obsessive* person, in that I tend to be obsessed with things or people I really like. All my friends keep wondering how I can listen over and over to the same albums (mostly Joni’s) and not being bored after a while. When I discover a writer I would read anything he or she has written. If I happen to like a place (a park, a café, a shop) I would return there anytime I have the chance to. But saying that, I should also say that I try being as open to critics as possible, accepting them if I find them fair. Speaking about Joni (IMHO is implied): I love the Mingus album in spite of bad critics and the general feeling among fans; I think (as mostly do) that the HOSL / DJRD period is the peak of Joni’s career, both musically and lyrically; although I like the first two albums, they tend to depress me; I still believe that she should have thought twice before recording DED and CMIAR (at least of the type of sound she gave to them, which is not as timeless as other works); I think the VG-8 (or whatever the name) makes TTT less interesting than what it must have been if she used acoustic guitar; I like the abstract and expressionist style of her paintings of the first period, but I’m not impressed at all by her latest efforts (the Idle painting in the TTT booklet looks Disney illustration to me); I enjoy BSN, but to say it’s her best in recent years sounds like a paradox to me as they are almost all covers. Can I still consider myself a JM fan in spite of my small critics? I could go on forever but they are just *my opinions*. You can agree or disagree, and then it’s up to me whether to accept your point of view or stick to mine. I shouldn’t unsubscribe to the list just because I didn’t get enough positive responses. Each one of us *is* different, thanks God. I don’t know whether a JM fan’s stereotype exists, but I tend to believe it doesn’t. As I believe there isn’t such a thing as a gay male stereotype. When I first moved to London and started going out in clubs and bars, I thought “Well, I must get more into standard gay icon divas, George Michael and Abba (to name a few)”. I though it was a way to be part of a community and be recognised as such. But, Abba’s tunes make me sick, I can’t stand George Michael face, and when it comes to bands like Step (sorry non-UK folks, you may not know them, lucky you) I’m really with Joni when she speaks about ‘junkfood music’. I haven’t met a gay male who is also a JM fan yet, but I know for sure I’m not the only one. I’m glad when I think about differences and complexity, as opposed to simplistic models applied to people. However, I mustn’t say I’m right and the others are wrong. I just don’t share their tastes or lifestyle, and this cannot make me a better person. I only tend to get hostile when I don’t see respect or am forced into things I don’t like. A little bit of sense of humour is also a good approach, I find. I always try not to take myself too seriously and really enjoy good sarcasm (I’m still laughing thinking of Bob’s post about looking for Waldo in the cover painting of BSN: I haven’t found the ‘heart on the sleeve’ thing myself yet!). Sorry for the long post. The latest discussions and events have been very stimulating. OK, I’m ready for the flood now ;-) PS. I din't label this NJC because 1) I'm not sure it's NJC and 2) I get the onlyJoniDigest and I love seeing my name in the posts I receive Raffaele in London (wondering whether he should take a less tolerating approach towards those who don’t like JM or have never heard of her, tying them on a chair and make them listen to the complete oeuvre in loop mode for a whole month, occasionally injecting them with high doses of stimulants not to fall asleep – OK, I’ve taken this from Clockwork Orange… I’ll snap out of it) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:29:31 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Various Musical Styles Someone mentioned Maire Brennan's version of BYT, I heard a version of BSN by her band Clannad which sounded decent enough. I've been looking for it for Bob's project. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:23:15 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: One down, ?? to go Fred sed: <> For Free IS in fact the Byrds selection, and Laughing is the version from Crosby's record. And man, is it nice! I'll plead ignorance and say that I don't have this Crosby record...is it all as good as this track? <> Fred, I'd love to include these in the "box set"! Can you toss them on tape or CD and send to me for inclusion? Bob Muller 309 West Prentiss Ave. Greenville, SC 29605 <> Please keep us posted on this one! I for one will GLADLY add it to my collection (with an autograph of course!) :~) Bob NP: Tori, "A Case of You" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:22:05 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: "Busted!" -- My Conversation with Peter Erskine As many of you may know, I play the part of Larry Klein in defense of Joni from time to time ... which recently led to an interesting and humbling exchange of e-mails. After replying to a recent message from Jamie Zoob, and signing Larry's name, I returned to my computer the next day to find a message in my In-Box indicating it was from Peter Erskine, the legendary jazz drummer for Weather Report, who also plays on "Stormy Weather" and of course, BSN ... "Larry is that really you?" it asked. Now I like to pull chains as much as the next list member, so my immediate thought was that someone out there was playing Peter's part, much as I play Larry. But I decided to respond as if it were real ... I came clean, confessing that I was not in fact Larry Klein. Imagine my surprise when Peter wrote back the very next day. He said he'd subscribed to the jmdl to check reactions to BSN, thanked me for my honesty and related a wonderful story from the BSN sessions. Apparently Sir George Martin dropped by the studios, and was listening to the playback of some of the recently recorded tracks, and remarked to Joni "You know, this is the way we used to make records in the old days." He was also kind and gracious enough to mention that at several points during the recording, the orchestra members were literally crying over Joni's performances. So mind your P's and Q's out there list -- Joni may not be lurking, but be assured -- her drummer is! :-) Don Rowe (and ONLY Don Rowe for the forseeable future) ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:32:03 -0600 From: "Mark T. Domyancich" Subject: Re: One down, ?? to go Sarah McLachlan also covered "Big Yellow Taxi" on the Lilith Fair disc. It's a horrible rendition of it. The backup singers sing "ooooh, bop, bop, bop, bop!" duh... NP-Morning Becomes Eclectic 9/12/94 - I forgot how good this is---I've played it nonstop lately! At 12:01 AM -0500 2/23/00, SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: >Blue - Sarah McLachlan - -- Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net http://home.revealed.net/Harpua ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:39:37 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: One down, ?? to go Mark writes: "Sarah McLachlan also covered "Big Yellow Taxi" on the Lilith Fair disc. It's a horrible rendition of it. The backup singers sing "ooooh, bop, bop, bop, bop!" duh..." I sweartagod - if I hear one more cover of BYT, I am going to throw up. Enough, already! (Joni did write another song or two, didn't she?) Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:00:32 EST From: RIKandBRAD@aol.com Subject: Re: What's a good Carly Simon to buy? Mark in Seattle Wrote: 'Another Passenger' is one of Carly's best imo. I never thought that 'Dishonest Modesty' had anything to do with Joni. Great song, though. Wickedly witty lyrics. Mark in Seattle Anybody think this is about Joni? I can't see Carly being that mean-spirited but who knows? RikyRacer Responds: Amen, Mark. This is the best CS album since Anticipation imo and is the last of her best. One very, very cool song is Libby and no, I have never heard that Dishonest Modesty is about JM. Even though she disclaims Fairweather Father is about JT, Do we really believe her? Do we dare to start the rumors about You're So Vain, AGAIN? RikyRacer in Hollywood ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:05:17 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Bob's "Covers and Contributions" project This is great Bob! You'll be finished with this project way before the JM Tribute album is released. I'm looking forward to your box set more than the Tribute album. Any chance of a Limited Edition ? :-{) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:31:35 EST From: NathanLaFraneer@aol.com Subject: Haven;t we Waited Long Enough? I have been hearing about this Joni tribute project for like 3 and a half years now. I am starting to have doubts that it will ever materialize at all. For gosh sake, it's a TRIBUTE album, not the Ring of the Nibelung. Why the delay? That interview on the Joni site that Wally had with the woman behind the tribute project was almost a year ago now. (That was a badly structured sentence, but please ignore it.) I mean, let's see ... in those three and a half years, we've had Hits, Misses, TTT, and now BSN. I had originally heard it would not be released in 1998 so as not to steal thunder from TTT. But really ... were any of us to take this long with a project we had to do at work, we'd have some explaining to do. No, I am too tired to storm Reprise with emails or what have you, I just want to know...will it happen, or should we just forget about it? I guess you could say, "I've been sitting up waiting for my album to show, I've been listening to the sirens and..." Oh forget it. So..what's going on? Ed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:41:49 -0600 From: Joseph Davis Subject: Re: I made a BSN conversion! Excellent choice for the old Joni head lost in the wilderness! Still get misty at the the sheer POWER of "The Magdeleana Landries" and if and when I ever get my teaching certification, I'm gonnna teach "The Sire of Sorrow" in my poetry classes - just excellence. Alan Lorimer wrote: > >Question is, what do you-my fellow experts think that someone > >who's been out of the Joni-loop for over twenty years and who loved > >the new album would respond best to? > > Jerome, > How about "Turbulent Indigo"? I can't think of a "mature" Joni album > which would be better for introducing old Joni fans to her new music. > Powerful lyrics, stunning music combing the best of the old with the new. > You still get some excellent acoustic work while being introduced to the > newer VG-8 based songs. > > On the other hand, I must admit that tracks such as "Slouching Towards > Bethlehem" on NRH would be absolutely mind blowing to older Joni fans who > haven't heard some of her "newer" music before > > Alan Lorimer > Hawley Beach > Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:17:16 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Joni Sec fret Cd's - --part1_a1.224ad0e.25e5d28c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there friends! This jerk is selling Joni's music for profit and I do beleave he is on the list. He needs to be kicked off NOW!!!! In a message dated 2/23/2000 12:04:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, voiceoverbc@earthlink.net writes: << Subj: Re: Joni Sec fret Cd's Date: 2/23/2000 12:04:04 AM Eastern Standard Time From: voiceoverbc@earthlink.net (BuddhaMan/Alan) Reply-to: voiceoverbc@earthlink.net (BuddhaMan/Alan) To: CaTGirl627@aol.com Mind your own business/ Some people WILL pay Because they have nothing to trade/ Shame on you for being an asshole ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:44 PM Subject: Joni Sec fret Cd's > Hi, > I just found out that you are on the Joni Mitchell Disscussion List. SHAME > on YOU for selling HER music for profit. What did you do to deserve making > money off of Joni Mitchell? I hope I was not the one who burned that CD for > FREE for you!! What a jerk!!! > >> - --part1_a1.224ad0e.25e5d28c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (rly-zc02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.2]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:04:04 -0500 Received: from scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by rly-zc02.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:03:50 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer (dialup-63.209.91.150.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [63.209.91.150]) by scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA15765 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:03:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000701bf7dbb$be1a1540$965bd13f@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "BuddhaMan/Alan" From: "BuddhaMan/Alan" To: References: <2.1227fa0.25e4b1a8@aol.com> Subject: Re: Joni Sec fret Cd's Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:06:26 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Mind your own business/ Some people WILL pay Because they have nothing to trade/ Shame on you for being an asshole - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:44 PM Subject: Joni Sec fret Cd's > Hi, > I just found out that you are on the Joni Mitchell Disscussion List. SHAME > on YOU for selling HER music for profit. What did you do to deserve making > money off of Joni Mitchell? I hope I was not the one who burned that CD for > FREE for you!! What a jerk!!! > - --part1_a1.224ad0e.25e5d28c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:31:45 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Fwd: policies Joni sec fret!! - --part1_17.22c7684.25e5d5f1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello again, This is the response I got from ebay. I know we have been down this road befor but never with a fellow lister. I am so sicken by the whole thing I could spit and the guy had the balls to call ME an asshole. HE is the one that should get a new one ripped!!! A very pissed of Catgirl!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrr...hisssssssss..... In a message dated 2/23/2000 4:17:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, queue@support.ebay.com writes: << Hello Debi, We have reviewed the Joni Mitchell auctions you have brought to our attention and taken apropriate action. We would also like to explain eBay's policy with respect to reports like yours. eBay is not in a position to make judgments about the authenticity or authorized nature of auction items, except in the most extreme circumstances. This may mean that we cannot remove the item about which you contacted us. In some cases, we refer the information to the owner of the rights (copyright, trademark, etc.) involved, if we know who they are and how to contact them. Although you may be extremely knowledgeable about these types of items, we often cannot remove items upon the representations of third parties whose credentials we cannot verify, unless of course the alleged infringement is obvious on its face. That is why we strongly urge you to notify the rights holder of the suspected infringement and encourage them to join our Verified Rights Owners (VeRO) Program (formerly called Legal Buddy Program). This program enables them to request the ending of allegedly infringing auctions. I appreciate you taking the time to contact Reprise on this situation. We appreciate your vigilance in helping us to keep inappropriate auctions off eBay. If we can be of any further assistance, please let us know. Regards, Jason Hughes eBay Communtiy Watch _____________________________ eBay Your Personal Trading Community (tm) >> - --part1_17.22c7684.25e5d5f1_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb02.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:17:17 -0500 Received: from phoenix.ebay.com (phoenix.ebay.com [216.32.120.98]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.24) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:17:02 -0500 Received: from ebb2.ebay.com (ebb2.ebay.com [216.33.9.103]) by phoenix.ebay.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3938F50 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:10:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:14:23 -0800 To: "CaTGirl627@aol.com" Subject: Re: policies (KMM9498015C0KM) From: eBay Customer Support Reply-To: eBay Customer Support MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Kana 4.0 Message-Id: <20000223211042.3938F50@phoenix.ebay.com> Hello Debi, We have reviewed the Joni Mitchell auctions you have brought to our attention and taken apropriate action. We would also like to explain eBay's policy with respect to reports like yours. eBay is not in a position to make judgments about the authenticity or authorized nature of auction items, except in the most extreme circumstances. This may mean that we cannot remove the item about which you contacted us. In some cases, we refer the information to the owner of the rights (copyright, trademark, etc.) involved, if we know who they are and how to contact them. Although you may be extremely knowledgeable about these types of items, we often cannot remove items upon the representations of third parties whose credentials we cannot verify, unless of course the alleged infringement is obvious on its face. That is why we strongly urge you to notify the rights holder of the suspected infringement and encourage them to join our Verified Rights Owners (VeRO) Program (formerly called Legal Buddy Program). This program enables them to request the ending of allegedly infringing auctions. I appreciate you taking the time to contact Reprise on this situation. We appreciate your vigilance in helping us to keep inappropriate auctions off eBay. If we can be of any further assistance, please let us know. Regards, Jason Hughes eBay Communtiy Watch _____________________________ eBay Your Personal Trading Community (tm) ******************************************* For our latest announcements, please check http://www2.ebay.com/aw/announce.shtml In order to better serve you, we'd like to occasionally request feedback on our service. If you would rather not participate, and have not yet updated your Notification Preferences, please click on the link below and set your Notification Preferences to "No" for the option "eBay Customer Support Surveys" found under the "Other Emails" heading. Please note that it can take up to 14 days for this change to go into effect. http://pages.ebay.com/services/myebay/optin-login.html ******************************************* Original message follows: - ------------------------- A guy on eBay is selling CD's of Joni Mitchell and they are illegal. He needs to be shut down. I am in the process of contacting REPRISE of this offense. He has done this befor and I think it is terrible!!! item number 265801875 Debi - -- catgirl627 - --part1_17.22c7684.25e5d5f1_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:38:44 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: wally k In a message dated 2/23/2000 7:32:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, michaelpaz@worldnet.att.net writes: << Hi Wally- Good to hear from you! Hope you are not hurting yourself or anyone in the Big Apple. My you South Americans take extended vacations. Stay in touch while you are on the road. You know Joni is going to be touring in May?? Dates will be announced real soon. >> Sounds like a major road trip for all including Wally. Wally didn't you leave to go on vacation in January and you are still away? Did you ever get your FREE Sec Fret Cd's from me yet? (I say that because of the jerk who is SELLING his!!!!) I will make the Sec Fret Sets for anyone who wants to mail blanks and postage....that is all for now.. Catgirl breathing and trying to calm down...inhale, exhale........ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:58:55 -0600 From: dave fairall / beth miller Subject: TURBLULENT INDIGO, NIGHT RIDE HOME Alan, Your comments about TI and NRH are right on the money. I think they really represent the best of the new Joni, organic sounds intermingle with her expanded sonic landscape, really lush recordings, a great way to reacquaint an older Joni fan. Dave Fairall Baltimore JMDL Digest wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:16:45 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: worried about Joni's smoking I certainly believe that people should smoke whenever and whereever they want(as long as it's not against the rules-though I think some rules are ridiculous,like the rules that prohibit smoking in resturaunts).However I am worried about Joni,the fact that she has a heavy daily smoking habit.I know many people who have cancer,including my sister,and my aunt died of cancer in March.I'd hate to see Joni get cancer,or some other major smoking related illness.not that smoking is the only cause of cancer.but It does increase the risk of cancer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:43:39 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: CD Trees In a message dated 2/23/00 6:40:40 PM US Central Standard Time, CaTGirl627@aol.com writes: << (I say that because of the jerk who is SELLING his!!!!) I will make the Sec Fret Sets for anyone who wants to mail blanks and postage....that is all for now.. >> Hiya Catgirl! Good for you! I see those constantly on E-Bay, I've made them for a bunch of folks too as well as the CD Trees and even a tape every now & then... So if you want "unofficial" Joni, put the word out here on the list...like Joni says "Don't Go To Strangers"! Bob NP: Black Friday ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:47:02 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Posted on another list This was posted on the CSNY list and I thought some of the junkies and sluts might find it interesting. Apologies to the rest of you. Michael Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:32:57 +0100 From: Jochem GROENEVELD <157410@student.fbk.eur.nl> Subject: Songs That Make A Difference (Johnny Cash) Several people asked me for the Johnny Cash lyrics that mentioned Graham Nash and Joni Mitchell, so I thought I'd post them on the lee-shore! It's on the Highwayman 2 record from 1990. Some words may be wrong as English is not my native language and some parts that Waylon Jennings sings are hard to hear. greetings, Jochem Songs That Make A Difference (by Johnny Cash) - - --------------------------------------------- Hey babe, do you remember back in 1969 we gathered 'round the room You sang yours and I sang mine We took turns with the guitar In the front and <> Shel and Kris and Dylan and the couple of the street Joni Mitchell cried on both sides now We sang songs that made a difference And we can again somehow Everybody knew that this was quite a special night Graham Nash was nervous, in the hot seat, in the light Joe South was toring magic and we all walked in his shoe <> and rabbit fried and rock the country blues Blueberry San Francisco Label joy We sang songs that made a difference 'Till he was pregnant with my boy I could make a living Driving lates 'n' driving trucks Sleep beneath the bridge Or in the streets down on my luck I'd stand the cold and hunger If they'd let me hear the songs Everybody'd write one, that us bums can sing along Keep it from the heart and down to earth Sing the songs that make a difference if it's all our money's worth Hey, keep it from the heart and down to earth sing the songs that make a difference if it's all our money's worth. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:14:25 EST From: AsharaJM@aol.com Subject: Re: Kakki Steve wrote: patrick wrote: >kakki, you're one of my favorite people on the joniplanet. that i've ever >met through the internet. that i've ever met. I can't imagine anyone who has met Kakki who would disagree with that.>> I presently in CT, helping my Mom through her initial doses of chemotherapy, and trying to catch up on digests. Just to add my 2 cents worth, I would be extremely sad to see you, Kakki, drop out of touch from this list. I see this community as an extended family in some ways, and have had the great privilege of hosting Kakki (and many others) in my home for the past 2 years, and have also had the great privilege of experiencing the "Kakki hospitality" in LA last summer. As in all families, we have our differences and our struggles sometimes. Sometimes we put our foot in our mouth, and hurt without intending to. Having met Bob as well last summer, I truly don't think there was any intention to be hurtful. Life is too short, (as I know only too well these past few years with the passing of extremely close friends) and I for one, value the intelligence, humor, camaraderie, and yes, occasional squabbles of this wonderful list. Please stay, Kakki. I enjoy your well though out, and well written posts so much. And Bob, I enjoy your sense of humor, your willingness to share the music, and all that you bring to this place. Hugs, Ashara www.photon.net/lightnet ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:01:44 EST From: Seanapper@aol.com Subject: Joni object sighting Hi List. I haven't posted in ages, but I want to publicly thank Jim Lamadoo for the tape tree tapes: THANK YOU, JIM!!! And thanks to all who have generously posted coupons for Internet music stores; I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of my very own scratched-up limited edition of BSN. I recently had a Joni Object Sighting: A couple of weeks ago, I went to Whistler, B.C. for the "gay ski week" with 3 friends. We're all Joni fans to varying degrees. I, of course, think Joni hung the moon. Anyway, we were at an aprez-ski happy hour in the Whistler Hard Rock Cafe, standing in a corner and feeling a bit self-conscious, old, and scrawny among all of the beautiful and tragically hip people, when we started looking at the decorations on the walls. All around the room, high on the walls near the ceiling, hung autographed guitars. Our eyes scanned from guitar to guitar, reading the autographs, amused. Then I looked at the guitar hanging on the wall directly over my head. I about wet my britches when I saw Joni's signature on the guitar! (The beer might have had something to do with that, too). Of course, we immediately started brainstorming how to sneak off with the guitar (pull a fire alarm...borrow a waiter's uniform...pretend to be a guitar maintenance technician...do an interpretive, yet distracting tabletop dance with VERY large veils...hide under a table until the place closed...pretend we were EMTs wheeling out a corpse under a sheet...etc.). I took one day off from skiing during the middle of the week to relax and heal from my many falls. I was watching a Canadian comedy channel that morning when they cut to a phony commercial: seated on a stool was a blond woman in layered clothing wearing a beret playing an acoustic guitar. In front of her sat a couple of dogs, to whom she was singing. The narrative voice-over advertised the "Joni Mitchell, For the Dogs" album, and a list of songs scrolled up the screen in typical K-Tel fashion. The songs listed had titles like "A White Sportcoat and a Pink Dalmation" and other such nonsense. I was pleased that she's well-known enough in the area for the show to poke fun at her, but at the same time, I was a bit offended. You know, sacrilege and all. Neil in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:18:18 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: People and Songs 2-24-2000 Hi List- I have been asked to post what's going on to the general list so more of you will get off that fence that you have been sitting on since last year at Ashara's. We hope that more of you will join us for this amazing show that is coming together so well so far. If you don't see your name here and you wanna join us, please send me an email and sign up for the sub list that our wonderful host, Les, has set up for us. AND THIS JUST IN........ Brian Thomas could be bringing some of his band with him. Stay tuned for more exciting details as JF2kNO plans continue to develop. Peace Michael WHO"S COMING TO TOWN!!!! Ashara&Sal Chuck and Barb WallyK MG CatGirl Bob Muller Kakki Julie Z Webb Terry Marian Steve and Leslie Mixon waytoblu@mindspring.com (Victor) +Holley Ric Jimmy FMYFL@aol.com Lori Hakulinen lorireason@hotmail.com Les Irvin Barbara Burst Marcel Julian51469@aol.com Jerry Notaro Steve polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us Julius Mills Bill Dollinger Pearl and Steve Medric Faulkner megg56@yahoo.com Phyliss Ward (pward@lightspeed.net) David Lahm Brian Thomas Jim Lamadoo Bern Bern44105@aol.com Dan Haas (Kleronomos@aol.com) Jody (johnsonjs@earthlink.net_ The Inside Scoop Friday May 26-Private Dinner and Cocktails at my home, rehearsals, general partying. Saturday May 27-Group Dinner in the French Quarter, more music. Sunday May 28-Morning Load In at Howlin' Wolf, Sound Check, 2pm-6pm Joni Fest List Members Only Brunch with performances by list members on stage. Break for a couple of hours to charge batteries. 8pm concert opened to the public and featuring already confirmed artists; David Lahm, Brian Thomas, Marian Russell, The Continental Drifters, Vikki Peterson (Bangles), Susan Cowsill, Peter Holsapple (REM, db's, Hootie and the Blowfish) Jack Neilson, Denise Marie (Open The Door), Beth Patterson (Hybrid Vigor) with some surprises I am still working on. Monday-Swamp Tours, sightseeing, spa day, medical attention at a local hospital, martinis at the lovely Columns on St. Charles Ave., shopping, etc. The Music Songs for Joni Fest2000 New Orleans Black Crow Big Yellow Taxi All I Want Little Green Both Sides Now Rainy Night House Circle Game Raised on Robbery Woodstock For Free Song For Sharon Chinese Cafe Amelia Hejira Just Like This Train Love Puts on A New Face Two Grey Rooms Man From Mars Down To You Harry's House Blue Motel Room Furry Sings The Blues Conversation Chelsea Morning Night In The City Coyote You Turn Me on Comes Love Stormy Weather This Flight Tonight Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire This Flight Tonight A Case of You For The Roses Blue Boy River That Song About the Midway ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:32:29 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni object sighting In a message dated 2/24/2000 1:05:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, Seanapper@aol.com writes: << I was pleased that she's well-known enough in the area for the show to poke fun at her, but at the same time, I was a bit offended. You know, sacrilege and all. Neil in Seattle >> What a fun post. I really enjoyed reading about your endevors to get that guitar. so now that you *have * it what are your plans with said guitar? Maybe a trip to N'Arlins??? Whoo-hooo!! Catgirl ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #77 ******************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?