From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #49 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, February 6 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 049 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Posts about Wally ["Alan Lorimer" ] Farewell, Wally [pmeyer ] Wally [Linda Worster ] My Wally thoughts [MGVal@aol.com] wally tribute ["David Foley" ] Wally [Marian ] Re: Fairwell ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Wally [mann@chicagonet.net] Re: Farewell, Wally ["Matthew Hall" ] Re: HOSL ["Matthew Hall" ] Wally ["Chuck EIsenhardt" ] (no subject) [dave fairall / beth miller ] Wally [Steve Dulson ] Michael [Steve Dulson ] Joni in Entertainment Weekly Magazine 2/11/00 [mann@chicagonet.net] Wally [pyramus ] PWWAM viewing (SJC) [Emily Kirk Gray ] Re: Joni in Entertainment Weekly Magazine 2/11/00 [catman ] refresh my memory (Wally) [neo@mail.utexas.edu (Neil E. Orts)] Wally [Maggie McNally ] Re: PWWAM viewing (SJC) [catman ] Why many of us are here [diana ] Re: Joni in Entertainment Weekly Magazine 2/11/00 ["Mark or Travis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:46:08 +1100 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: Posts about Wally I've just read another Digest full of wonderful posts about Wally. It's been a beautiful day here, and the words of a song jump to mind: "hey, there's not a cloud in the sky it's as blue as your good bye and i thought it would rain on a day like today hey there's not a cloud in sight it's as blue as your blue goodbye and i thought it would rain on the day you went away" Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania NP: Wendy Matthews "the day you went away" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 02:38:22 -0800 From: pmeyer Subject: Farewell, Wally I grieve over Wally's death, though I knew him only through his beautiful work. He is an inspiration. "Love is touching souls; surely you've touched mine..." I'll miss Wally. I'm heartened by the JMDL community and the unique bond we share. Wally helped create us. Paul Meyer-Strom pmeyer@ibm.net ps Funeral? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 19:08:44 -0500 From: Linda Worster Subject: Wally Down with the flu, I had Wally's photo up on my computer monitor for most of yesterday. Sometimes crying, sometimes smiling... I thought of him and Jim and all of you. What a fine example Wally is of how doing what we love most yields that which is most valuable in this world. His work and love continues with us. God bless you Wally. love- Linda ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 07:55:49 EST From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: My Wally thoughts Like Mark and many others, www.jonimitchell.com was the very first stop I made when I unpacked my pc and hooked it up. Unlike Mark, I was travelling at 2,400 bps in those days, (and for longer than I care to say until the helpful intervention of fellow JMDL'er Al Date - thank you Al), so I had plenty of time between downloading and reading to stay glued in front of my pc for hours. I remember reading in awe the essay that Wally posted about "Joni Mitchell and the History of My Sadness," (title not exact). It was the first piece of writing by someone other than a reporter that talked about Joni's place in someone's personal life. I was hooked. Like Mark, I too, posted and corresponded with people from the Cafe section, but I can no longer remember who they were. People may remember the old epoxy glue that required the mixing of two compounds. I often think of Wally and Les as standing over two separate and different pots of epoxy base. When mixed together, it creates an incredible bonding substance that stands strong and true. I do not think that I am exagerating when I say that the glue of the Joni Mitchell Homepage and the JMDL has helped to create an Internet community that shares a common heartbeat. I couldn't un-sub if I wanted to now. I joined the list in 1997. That summer, I was lucky enough to participate in one of the first jmdl gatherings. Leslie and Steve Mixon, Rich Neuwith, Merriweather Jones and Wally and his friends. At the time, I don't think that any of us had any idea of what love would blossom within the chaos of sitting through the recitation of the night's blue plate special. Thank you, Wally. Through you, through Les and through all the rest of my JMDL family, I have been blessed. Life is short, love is precious. MG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:40:19 -0000 From: "David Foley" Subject: wally tribute I hope this idea isn't too far-fetched. Thinking of Wally and all of the messages I've read in the last couple of digests an idea came to mind. Is there any Joni material we could tree and put out as the 'Wally memorial tree' Sadly I don't have anything I could offer but I would gladly help out in the UK side of things. It just seems a golden opportunity to do something positive Best Wishes to all David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 16:14:18 +0100 From: Marian Subject: Wally Today I have added to the JMDL Guitar Files an arrangement of Shadows And Light dedicated to Wally's memory. I am grateful to Wally for many reasons, not the least of which was his assistance in getting the JMDL Cookbook to Joni through her management. Although we did not always agree on everything, I feel that his motivation was always to protect and further the best interests of SIQUOMB. I hope to meet him in the world beyond - I'm quite sure he's having a much easier and more interesting time over there. Marian Vienna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:39:43 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Fairwell Farewell Wally. Your talent and enthusiasm will be a beacon for the rest of us. All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 10:02:11 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Wally THE REDWOOD & THE SPIRIT Wally & Joni You started out a small tree and touched and embraced many with your arm-branches. Many have looked for shelter under your leaves that have brought them knowledge and friendships and musical pleasures. You've since become a Redwood with roots firmly established. We are the cathedral trees and redwood burls. People come from all over the world to see your tree. A "regular" ordinary tree has become extraordinary. The Mysterious Redwood has become a forest. The Spirit blows thru the forest like fire. Her heat reaches the core of the many trees....... they are warmed and continue to grow and sprout. The forest grows. Many that have lingered in that forest have met and spoke with the Spirit. Others feel her presence like never before. Lives have been changed. Directly and indirectly. Because of you, dear Redwood. Smaller trees that otherwise could not grow together have flourished. The environment is one of harmony as we all seek the spirit in the respected Redwood's forest. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you, Wally for creating a new path for my feet. You've made my life much richer. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:23:05 -0000 From: "Matthew Hall" Subject: Re: Farewell, Wally I have been reading a lot about Wally's death - I'm not going to say much because I really didn't know him at all, but I did smile thinking about what a cool funeral/service he would have. Hundreds of Joni songs to choose from! Matthew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 16:23:02 -0000 From: "Matthew Hall" Subject: Re: HOSL Well I've had HOSL for nearly a week now (I am so good at these little abbreviations) and I thought I'd give you a little update on what I think (like you care). My fave songs on it : 'In France They Kiss On Main Street' - for obvious reasons, it's no accident that this is the first song on the lp 'Don't Interrupt The Sorrow' 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' 'The Boho Dance' - Is it true that Bjork is doing this one for the tribute album? That would be so good, I love Bjork. I saw her live about a year ago in Manchester and she was mesmerising, with her little angel wings too. 'Shadows and Light' I do love 'Harry's House/Centerpiece' but I already knew this one, so I take it a bit for granted. One song that I thought I would really like, just from what I'd heard about it, is 'Edith and The Kingpin' but it doesn't really do anything for me... yet. I have resisted buying any more Joni releases yet, although I did get Patti Smith, Fiona Apple and the new Raissa single this week. Matthew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 11:28:12 -0500 From: "Chuck EIsenhardt" Subject: Wally It strange how expected, and even somewhat hoped-for, news can grab you by the throat. Wally's passing is a great loss. My thoughts and prayers are with Jim, family and friends, and that's all of you in the larger family as well. This morning I keep coming back to his 'Woodstock' for some solace. This was his contribution to tt#4 'A Tape of You' which we distributed in early 98. Here's what Wally wrote in the notes about it: "For me, 'Woodstock' perfectly reflects the Aquarian ideals that were being tested back in the 1960's when I was an impressionable teenager. This recording with guitarist John Connolly is from 1985. At that time, back before the days of 'The Joni MItchell Homepage', I was still devoting most of my energies to songwriting; as was the case with almost all of the cover tunes we experimented with, it was a first and only take. This celebratory song's minor key adds a touch of poignancy for me. reflecting the sad improbability of ever getting "back to the garden". ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 13:43:46 -0600 From: dave fairall / beth miller Subject: (no subject) Being a long time JM fan, I, like many of us, inevitably met Wally Breeze through cyberspace, and admired his efforts to promote one of my favorite artists. I bookmarked the site after my first visit, and was thrilled with having found a source for "all things Joni". As a result of Wally's tireless efforts, I first heard about the Day in the Garden concert (trekked from Baltimore to NY to attend), and really appreciated having a forum through which to share my experience. I'm sure that many of us who didn't know him personally feel a very tangible sense of loss today. My thoughts are with his close friends and family. Seeing Wally in a state of bliss seated in the front row in the Painting w/ Words and Music video will always serve to remind me of his commitment, dedication, and passion for JM, through which he succeeded in uniting a global community. THANK YOU WALLY. Dave Fairall Baltimore Md. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:01:37 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Wally Dear friends, Michael Paz gave me the news about Wally yesterday. While I am glad his suffering is over, our world is a lesser place without him. I will be forever grateful for the doors he opened for me. Look at his beaming face in so many shots of the PWWAM video. Wally was in Heaven that day. Now he's in Heaven every day. sigh, mournful sister, whisper and turn, i will rattle like dry leaves when i go stand in the mist where my fire used to burn, i will camp on the night breeze when i go and should you glimpse my wandering form out on the borderline between death and resurrection and the council of the pines do not worry for my comfort, do not sorrow for me so all your diamond tears will rise up and adorn the sky beside me when i go from When I Go © 1998 Dave Carter - BMI ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ (Website under construction!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:06:02 -0800 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Michael In our sorrow, there is always light. I believe Michael Paz wil be posting some good news for our community soon. Michael and I were at the NAMM show in LA yesterday (I swear Michael knows EVERYBODY in the music biz!) and picked up some interesting info - but I don't want to steal his thunder. ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ (Website under construction!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 15:12:36 -0600 From: mann@chicagonet.net Subject: Joni in Entertainment Weekly Magazine 2/11/00 The press is starting. Unfortunately, the first one I've seen is not a raver. Entertainment Weekly magazine (February 11, 2000 issue) pg.74, under MUSIC has a nice b/w pic of Joni with the caption: STANDARDS BEARER Mitchell's latest is a not-so-great experiment. The paragraph goes on to say: JONI MITCHELL Both Sides Now (Reprise) In which one of America's most respected singer-songwriters rents an orchestra and tries her hand at some standards, including two of her own. It's tough to argue with the spirit of the set, a song cycle tracing the arc of love gone wrong highlighted by "You're My Thrill" and "You've Changed" (both associated with latter-day Billy Holliday), a ripe re-visioning of Blue's "A Case of You", and a take on "Both Sides Now" that benefits from her vocal maturity. But Mitchell's art is about her writer's voice more than her intreperter's voice, and in the end, this is more curio than keeper. B - Will Hermes Some good news: I went and had my first Starbucks coffee yesterday (Friday). There was a coupon in the paper for a free cup of their new 'light' coffee (sounded good to me because I'm not much of a coffee drinker.....altho I do love Dunkin' Donuts coffee). Heard Joni singing Chelsea Morning over the speakers above. Then walking out another newer Joni song (I cannot remember the tune right now) came out from the spakers and one of the employees was humming it as she went out the door. It made my day and I like Starbucks a little more because of it!! A great freebie.........you can use this toward a purchase or to pay for the shipping at on-line stores like: Tower Records Mothernature.com drugstore.com (go here for a complete list of stores:) http://www.flooz.com/send/liststores.asp Take a few minutes to complete this survey. They will then email you $10 of Flooz. To be eligible for the Gift Certificate, you must complete the survey by February 14, 2000. I believe flooz is good for up to a year (and not easy to get some) so get in on this while you can. Take the survey here: http://www.esurvey.com/mail/jan/mail-survey.html If you need any help using the flooz feel free to email me and I'll be glad to help you out. They do have instructions on the flooz website. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 21:13:29 +0000 From: pyramus Subject: Wally Very sad news about Wally. I never had the privilege to know him but from the comments of people on the list it seems like he was quite a guy. Although he has departed, his heartbeat will remain, on the website and the list. Kevin. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:52:45 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: PWWAM viewing (SJC) hi everyone i'm so stressed about how to quantify my joni-content these days...nervous that referring to a joni-related item without large doses of in-depth analysis of her music will piss off lots of people! but i digress... anyway, i showed my PWWAM video to a friend/boyfriend last night (the guy who lives under the hejira-playing window dresser for those of you keeping track...actually he just moved but that's another story), and ANYWAY i was hoping he'd like it (his taste runs to the sex pistols and such) or at least hoped that he'd fake liking it knowing my allegiance. i suspect the latter occurred. but his only real disparaging comment was towards larry klein! out of nowhere, my friend says, "who the hell is that chump?" gesturing towards larry, and i explained, getting irked but also giggling. my friend said "why is he playing bass like he has to make up for the fact that he's not jaco?" and i disagreed and tried to argue. but there was no arguing and my friend was relentless in poking fun at larry the whole time we watched the video. and you know what? now I'VE caught the bug and i DO find larry's oh-so-into-it facial expressions and such kind of annoying. or i did last night, i should say. isn't that annoying? i'm annoyed that he's gotten me annoyed about larry! - -- emily NP: "The Truth," by The Artist Formerly... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 23:52:31 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Joni in Entertainment Weekly Magazine 2/11/00 > But > Mitchell's art is about her writer's voice > more than her intreperter's voice, This is exactly what I was trying to say when I was saying that Joni 's singing is not what i call singing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 10:30:02 +1100 From: "Alan Lorimer" Subject: Re: HOSL Mathew, I've only had HOSL for two months, but this has become my personal Joni album full stop. "Don't Interrupt The Sorrow" by itself would have justified the purchase of this album. This, to me, is Joni's #1 song. "Edith And The Kingpin" was spoiled for me after hearing the live version on the S&L. Joni manages to breath new life and meaning into this song. I can't explain, I just know that the slower, live version seems "right". Don't rush into buying S&L though, take a year or two and work your way through the studio albums first. Glad to hear from you again, hope you weren't too put off by all the *censored* discussion. You've just got to mention *censored* and people jump on their soap boxes and start..... Alan Lorimer Hawley Beach Tasmania ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 19:21:32 -0500 (EST) From: neo@mail.utexas.edu (Neil E. Orts) Subject: refresh my memory (Wally) I've been reading the Wally comments on the digest and noting the impact he's had on so many people. What I haven't noticed (and what I've only thought of this afternoon) is any mention of perhaps the most significant part Wally played in the life of Joni: her reunion with "Little Green." Have I screwed up the details in my mind or wasn't the website instrumental in that "mother and child reunion"? - -Neil he of dubious memory (and obviously misplacing the memory of the daughter's name) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + neo@mail.utexas.edu + + + + + + + + + + Neil Ellis Orts Austin, TX 512-372-8082 When we think it's over + + + + + + + + + + + + Baby we find new things to be afraid of -Sarah Masen + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 19:18:33 -0500 From: Maggie McNally Subject: Wally It's a winter day here in the Northeast USA, and I have spent much of it mourning our dear Wally. I finally came to the logical place -- the JMDL - -- it feels good and right and holy to have come here. Wally's life was sacred -- at his birth, in his living, and in his dying. I want not to celebrate the victory of death -- I do not belive Wally would want that -- but to give thanks for a life well lived. I have thought ofen of Leslie and Jim in the last weeks, knowing of their vigil, and sending them my thoughts for their strength and peace. The work they did was honorable, beautiful, life affirming. I send them my thanks. I looked at the messages of fellow JMDLrs, some I have met and laughted and sung with, and some I have only "met" here in cyberspace. The amazing thing is that through Wally's work (and Les' too, bless you Les), and Joni's art, we have an abiding connection to each other. Thus, we come to the JMDL to mourn, to celebrate a life well lived and the power of love and music and art that fills and extends beyond this screen to many other hearts. Death has brought us face to face with Life. Let us use this time to explore and experience the deepest meaning of life. Let us be open to the possibility that the deep sadness we feel may unlock new opportunities for growth and living. I send you all love and hugs. Maggie Maggie McNally ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 00:43:33 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: PWWAM viewing (SJC) Emily-first off PWWAM is JC, so don't worry about it! secondly, don't feel obliged to defend Larry. He gets slagged off here a lot. Many blame him for DED!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 20:29:56 -0600 From: diana Subject: Why many of us are here At 12:38 PM 2/4/2000 +0000, catman wrote: >Listening to TTT. Tiger Bones is on. John says 'This is good. Glad she >didn't spoil it by singing'!!! >John gets no dinner. This is the reason why I found Wally's site the first day I hooked my new computer up to the internet. This was back in the fall of '96. So many of us have family that doesn't share our love of Joni's talent. We had no one to share our JOY with. Because of Wally, we now do. What a tribute to Wally, that he accomplished his goal of creating something worthwhile, giving something to all of us we so desperately needed. I know that his family and friends realize just what greatness Wally accomplished. I am not religious but believe that our immortality is our influence on the lives of others. Wally will live on forever in our hearts. Diana ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:54:22 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni in Entertainment Weekly Magazine 2/11/00 > > But > > Mitchell's art is about her writer's voice > > more than her intreperter's voice, Well, it has been up to now. God forbid that Joni should try something new! Personally I think Joni was ripe for stepping into this new role. Of course I still want new, original Joni! But she can record a standards record anytime she wants, as far as I'm concerned & I'm there! Colin, this is in no way directed at you. It's directed at the review. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 22:12:49 -0600 From: evian Subject: BSN Canadian Listers, I just saw that BSN is available at Chapters, but thank God I ordered from cdnow... the Canadian price at Chapters is $75.99!!!! Good Lord.... with my $10 off coupon, it works out cheaper than buying from Canada. How stupid is that? Even if it takes a month to get here, it's still better than paying $80 bucks. Evian ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #49 ******************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?