From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #12 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, January 11 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 012 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- BSN on CD-Now [Deb Messling ] practical magic [Sarah Schuckman ] Re: No Joni Content - Alternative for discussion [Susan McNamara ] Re: Joni and Pink Floyd [Susan McNamara ] Re: lyrics [Riveragelsinger@aol.com] Re: Where "hits" misses [Siresorrow@aol.com] ALL JC BABY! ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] Amour, mama, not cheap display! [Susan McNamara ] Anybody Need Some Lace? [Julian51469@aol.com] Video and DAT tree request, and ONE loaner report [Kleronomos@aol.com] Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! [catman ] Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! [Susan McNamara ] Re: lyrics [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! [Jerry Notaro ] more on Joni in S'toon [evian ] Joel Rafael Band ["Peter Holmstedt" ] "Soloman kept his head in all his glory"? [Relayer211@aol.com] "Soloman kept his head in all his glory"? [Vince Lavieri ] Re: more on Joni in S'toon ["Kakki" ] RE: "Soloman kept his head in all his glory"? ["Wally Kairuz" ] Goodbye Blue Sky! [Michael Paz ] Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! [Kathleen Kajioka ] Re: JONI IN NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!! ["Mark T. Domyancich" ] Amour, mama, not cheap display! [evian ] more on Joni in S'toon [evian ] Re: JONI IN NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!! [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: JONI IN NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!! ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:03:43 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: BSN on CD-Now CD-Now is taking advance orders for the special edition of Both Sides Now. As Jim mentioned, if you click to CD-Now from the JDML site, it helps defray Les's costs. Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ I love cats. They give the home a heartbeat. - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:12:39 -0500 (EST) From: Sarah Schuckman Subject: practical magic has anyone heard the "practical magic" soundtrack? it's really good, and "case of you" is on it. And there are two good stevie nicks songs, and this great song i'd never heard called "black eyed dog" by nick drake... andthis very fun son gcaled coconut by harry nilsson... you know, the one that goes, "you put the lime in the coconut, then you feel better"... :) just wanted to put in my recommendation! :) have a good day! sarah :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:34:06 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: No Joni Content - Alternative for discussion Thanks, Alan, for your suggestion, but I think since this is a Joni Mitchell discussion list, it should be contingent on people not wanting to talk about Joni to tag their messages, not the other way around. My humble opinion. I don't think we will ever get around the fact that some people will forget to include the tag, being humans and all, and I think that's where tolerance for boo-boos comes in. I think the current system is working great. Every once in a while a reminder goes out, and that's no big deal. thanks, Sue >I'd like to suggest that people consider an alternative approach to how the >"Joni-lists" are currently set up; that instead of putting NJC (No Joni >Content) on messages with no Joni content, JCL (Joni Content List) is put on >messages for the "Joni only" lists. The reasoning behind this as follows: > ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:07:12 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: lyrics Which song would you like to discuss? I'm up for that! Welcome to the list, sue ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:11:55 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Joni and Pink Floyd Here is an excerpt on this subject from Wally's site: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Roots.html In the spring an invitation came from Roger Waters to join him in a re-staging of his epic "The Wall" at the site of the now torn down Berlin wall. Roger suggested a song to Joni that he wanted her to perform in the upcoming concert, but she told him she'd prefer to do a different one. He agreed and re-arranged the line-up of singers and songs to accommodate her. Joni also requested that she be sent a tape of the backing tracks so she could practice. The concert "Roger Water's The Wall : Live In Berlin" was held on July 21, 1990 and included guest singers and musicians such as Sinead O'Connor, Van Morrison, Cyndi Lauper, Bryan Adams, Paul Carrack of Mike and the Mechanics, the Band, the Scorpions, etc. This was certainly an all-star event. Joni was joined onstage by flutist James Galway, performing with a pre-recorded backing track on the song "Goodbye, Blue Sky." She also re-appeared at the finale and sang a few solo lines for "The Tide Is Turning" clustered with Sinead O'Connor, Thomas Dolby and Bryan Adams at one side of an elevated platform. Go here for some pictures: http://www.jonimitchell.com/TheWallBerlin90.html > I have been a big Pink Floyd fan for a long time,as well as a Joni >Mitchell fan.I was wondering how did Joni wind up singing with Roger Waters >at the performance of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" in Berlin in 1990?Does anyone >know the story behind that?what does Joni think about "The Wall" and the >performance in Berlin at the Berlin Wall? > thanks for any info. ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:34:09 EST From: Riveragelsinger@aol.com Subject: Re: lyrics For no immediately relevant reason other than to show what I mean by discussing Ms. Michell's lyrics, how do all you folks understand the characters she creates in "In France They Kiss On Main Street" from The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Its context has to do with France, a downtown setting, dance halls and cafés, a pinball arcade. Several people have names...it's about the romance she recognizes as an integral part of French culture and perhaps a main thread or goal of rock 'n' rolling???? Your thoughts?? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:51:51 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Where "hits" misses i love the hits collection. i gave it to someone and i haven't replaced it yet, but i plan to. what i like about it is that joni picked the order and sequenced the songs and in that alone, she tells a story with the album which really makes it different than a greatest hits album. i see it more as an arrangement. pat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:03:41 -0500 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: ALL JC BABY! Joni Mitchell! ;-) - -Jenny P.S. Just kidding. I've been reading the JM Companion, of course, first I checked out all the pictures. I'm so greatful for it, and glad to be acquainted to a published writer of my favorite topic. I couldn't believe whatever writer for the "Village Voice" actually said Joni "failed" as a lyricist in reviewing "Hejira". Hejira is my favorite, and I'm not alone at all. One of the biggest reasons it's my favorite is because of its lyrical content. It has taken me years to uncover its depth and I'm sure I haven't gotten it all yet. Anyway, GREAT job, Stacy. I can't wait to have more time with it. - -Jenny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:44:00 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Amour, mama, not cheap display! I too agree that Joni loves the romance of the French and uses that image of love and freedom in France in a couple of her songs: Free Man in Paris (of course) and the new song Love Puts on a New Face: In France they say, everyday, love puts on a new face ... This line is also repetitive and very telling of Joni's attitude toward love and repression: Amour, mama, not cheap display. I originally thought she was using the word mama sort of the way blues singers did, yeah mama, but she is actually talking to her mother here, and does so on the same subject in many of her other songs: Let The Wind Carry Me: She don't like my kick-pleat skirt, she don't like my eyelids painted green Happiness is the Best Facelift: Shacked up downtown making love without a license, same old sacred cow. So I think in the French sense (if this is a French philosophy), Joni very closely links love and freedom (and rock & roll!). Sue >For no immediately relevant reason other than to show what I mean by >discussing Ms. Michell's lyrics, how do all you folks understand the >characters she creates in "In France They Kiss On Main Street" from The >Hissing of Summer Lawns. Its context has to do with France, a downtown >setting, dance halls and cafÈs, a pinball arcade. Several people have >names...it's about the romance she recognizes as an integral part of French >culture and perhaps a main thread or goal of rock 'n' rolling???? Your >thoughts?? ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:25:43 EST From: Julian51469@aol.com Subject: Anybody Need Some Lace? Hello everyone, I've been out of the loop for so long now and am desperately trying to catch up on my JMDL reading....but before I go on any longer.... Does anyone need a copy of the LACE show tape? If so then please e-mail me privately and I'll be more than happy to pass it along. I will take the first eight folks who contact me. The transmission of the show is rough but the content is a wonderful "filling in of all the gaps" concerning her painting. Talk to you then. Julian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:59:25 EST From: Kleronomos@aol.com Subject: Video and DAT tree request, and ONE loaner report Would be so grateful if someone with either DATs of the tape trees, or anyone with the (2), 2 hr. videos (video tree #1) could contact me offlist to arrange to get copies. As proud owner of a new DAT machine, would love to help relieve the burden on Burner Bob for high-quality dups to tape / CD for future requests. Have never seen the video tree... looks scrumptious! ONE "loaner" report: Regarding the ONE Joni album people have expressed that they would use to INTRODUCE Joni to a "newbie", a consensus, as expected, is not there! But the (admittedly un-scientific) impression I got from the posts and emails is that Blue and FTR are good choices for their simplicity and accessability, but with a depth that seems inexhaustible. They were heavy favorites. Hejira also rates high for a first timer, according to the list. I thought the suggestion of "Misses" was a good one, but it only got one "vote." NRH came up several times, and a smattering of the other albums. Several noted that their choice would depend on what they knew about the person that they were loaning it to. (makes perfect sense, of course!) Do you have a friend or relative that isn't yet a fan? Consider surprising them with a Joni album next time their birthday or something rolls around! Or maybe just get them something just "out of the Blue" (((sorry))) Reminder: if you access CDNow through the Joni Mitchell website, JM.com gets credit for the sale! Get well Wally!! You are in our prayers. Dan NP: vacuum cleaner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:11:01 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! > > > So I think in the French sense (if this is a French philosophy), Joni very > closely links love and freedom I would have thought. Love involves freedom or it isn't love-it becomes control. > (and rock & roll!). > > Sue > > >For no immediately relevant reason other than to show what I mean by > >discussing Ms. Michell's lyrics, how do all you folks understand the > >characters she creates in "In France They Kiss On Main Street" from The > >Hissing of Summer Lawns. Its context has to do with France, a downtown > >setting, dance halls and cafÈs, a pinball arcade. Several people have > >names...it's about the romance she recognizes as an integral part of French > >culture and perhaps a main thread or goal of rock 'n' rolling???? Your > >thoughts?? > > ____________________ > /____________________\ > ||-------------------|| > || Sue McNamara || > || sem8@cornell.edu || > ||___________________|| > || O etch-a-sketch O || > \___________________/ > > > > "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell - -- To change the world-change your self "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:27:00 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! I'm probably opening mouth, inserting foot and chewing vigorously on this one -- but could Joni's Canadian upbringing be the simplest explanation for her love of things French? Don Rowe ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:37:40 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! Colin said: >I would have thought. Love involves freedom or it isn't love-it becomes >control. Right again, my dear cat! :-+ ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:53:08 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: lyrics "R" said: <> I think this is one of her "snapshot" songs, where she's not trying to get across any heavy message or philosophy, but rather giving us a series of snapshots of her teenage years...I thought the observation about Louise was on the money. It never occurred to me that the Louise in this song is also "Cherokee Louise", but I have no doubt it is. I'm also sure that Gail, Ron, Chickie, Melvin, et. al were real people and that Joni went out looking to raise Jesus up from the dead. Most of the "teenage party" images she gives us here are very common ones we can relate to, like the songs "We'll have these moments to remember" or The Beach Boys "All Summer Long". I think the title comes from contrasting having to kiss in secret (in cars, under bridges, etc) with kissing in public - right on Main Street, not concerned with what neighbors (or a disapproving Mama) might say... Bob NP: Nothing as I'm in somebody else's office in TN... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:04:17 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! I've always taken this to be a rock and roll anthem in response to Joni's previous generation's condemnation of Rock and Roll as "the devil's music." Also to the hypocritical and puritanical attitude toward sex in general, much like her recent painting of she and Don "french" kissing. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:13:57 -0500 (EST) From: David Wright Subject: Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Don Rowe wrote: > could Joni's Canadian upbringing be the simplest explanation for her > love of things French? I wouldn't think so, because isn't Quebec (in eastern Canada) the main French-Canadian province, whereas Joni comes from the open prairie of the midwest? - --David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:40:10 -0600 From: evian Subject: Joni exhibit in S'toon Hey Listers, Word has it that the Joni exhibit in S'toon will be in June. I'll post later when I know more, but I think the month is at least confirmed, if not specific dates yet. Evian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:29:41 -0600 From: evian Subject: more on Joni in S'toon Hi Again Listers, Just talked to the cranky man from the Mendel. The tentative date for the Joni exhibit is June 30th, which just happens to fall on the weekend of my frigging family reunion, where I offered to put up a crapload of cousins, and on a day that I have to work... So, I am hoping they change the date, or I will have to just leave the house keys in the mailbox and call in sick to work, go to Saskatoon, and hire a fat actor to play me at the family reunion! Anyway, the guy said the date is tentative, but he is assuming it will stick -- there was an article in the Saskatoon Paper on the weekend about it, which I will try and find. Anyway, they will let me know as soon as it is confirmed, so I'll post as soon as I hear for sure. Evian np: "Every Little Kiss" - -Bruce Hornsby (one of my all time fave songs) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:20:58 +0100 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Joel Rafael Band Hi there, Just a short note to let you know that I received finished product of the Joel Rafael Band's new album "Hopper" today. What was a great album as an advance copy, has now become a georgeous listening experience! The album is recorded at Jackson Browne's Groove Masters Studio in Santa Monica, and is produced by Paul Dieter ( Jackson Browne, CPR, Venice, etc. ) and Dan Rothchild ( son of Paul ! ) . If you can imagine a cross between Bob Dylan, Eric Andersen, Joni Mitchell and Jackson Browne, that's what this album is all about ! ! ! The Joel Rafael Band is : Joel Rafael on guitar and vocals, Jamaica Rafael on violins and vocals, Carl Johnson on lead guitar, Dan Rotchild on bass and Jeff Berkley on percussion. The band is managed by Cree Clover, who also works for Jackson Browne. The brand new album ( release date, January 8 ), features some great, original songs by Joel Rafael, "China Basin Dogs", which is a Rafael - John Trudell composition ( John does also appear on the song! ) and "Minor Key", written by Woody Guthrie and Billy Bragg. If you're interested in getting a copy, please contact : Reluctant Angel Records PO Box 357 Bonsall, CA 92003 U.S.A. Phone: 760 - 749 - 0813 Fax: 760 - 749 - 8011 Email: rangel420@aol.com jrafael@flash.net DFM3@aol.com Website: http://www.flash.net/~jrafael/ The first classic album of the 21st century is here! Take care, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:40:51 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: "Soloman kept his head in all his glory"? Speaking of HOSL lyrics,I was wondering yesterday,why does joni say this line in "The Boho Zone"?In the bible,Soloman let the glory go to his head,he didn't keep his head.At least that's how I understand it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:24:01 -0500 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: "Soloman kept his head in all his glory"? Jesus was a beggar - he was rich in grace And Solomon kept his head in all his glory It's just that some steps outside the Boho dance have a fascination for me. Boho Dance I can't speak for Joni but I suspect that she is comparing the humility/humble life style of Jesus with the ornate riches of Solomon (both sons of David in some sense, for what it is worth). There are far more diligent and wise Joni scholars than me in here so I now step back for the experts to speak... (the Rev) Vince Relayer211@aol.com wrote: > Speaking of HOSL lyrics,I was wondering yesterday,why does joni say this > line in "The Boho Zone"?In the bible,Soloman let the glory go to his head,he > didn't keep his head.At least that's how I understand it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:16:16 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! I recall her saying that her upbringing in (mid?) western Canada was strictly English, despite the multilingual cereal boxes and things. I've known some English-speaking Canadians who are actually somewhat touchy on the subject of French. But I could imagine Joni embracing French out of sheer rebellion. At 10:27 AM 1/10/00 -0800, you wrote: >I'm probably opening mouth, inserting foot and chewing >vigorously on this one -- but could Joni's Canadian >upbringing be the simplest explanation for her love of >things French? > Deb Messling messling@enter.net http://www.enter.net/~messling/ I love cats. They give the home a heartbeat. - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:28:04 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: more on Joni in S'toon Evian wrote: >Just talked to the cranky man from the Mendel. The >tentative date for the Joni exhibit is June 30th, which just >happens to fall on the weekend of my frigging family >reunion, where I offered to put up a crapload of cousins, >and on a day that I have to work... So, I am hoping they >change the date, or I will have to just leave the house keys >in the mailbox and call in sick to work, go to Saskatoon, >and hire a fat actor to play me at the family reunion! Evian, take a deep breath and start planning how to slip out of the house. It will only be a few hours out of that Friday night and you might even be able to fit in the JMDL afterparty over at the Bessborough ;-D Thanks for the updates. Kakki NP: Lani Hall - Amor De Indio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:39:05 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: "Soloman kept his head in all his glory"? well, yes, but when god asked solomon what he wanted most in the world, he answered wisdom. and then there are all the stories about solomon passing judgement wisely [the story of the two women fighting over who was the real mother of the child, the story of the hard-boiled egg,] at least in legend, solomon has remained as a representation of wisdom and level-headedness. you know, like when you say a "solomonic decision" . > > Speaking of HOSL lyrics,I was wondering yesterday,why does joni say this > > line in "The Boho Zone"?In the bible,Soloman let the glory go to his head,he > > didn't keep his head.At least that's how I understand it. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:13:57 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: JONI IN NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!! I can't stand it anymore. I can't keep it to myself any longer. Here it is! My boss informed me that he got a call from a friend of his who is working as Joni's road manager. He says she is booked to play the NATPE Convention (TV producers and actors etc.) later this month for a private show on the 28th of January at a local hotel ballroom. He also says they require a place to rehearse for 5 days before the show starting on the 23rd. He asked me to check on a few places we have used in the past for other artists that had specific requirements, which I did. He said he thought they would probably use our location at the office because they needed it at night only and it would not effect our business. I still have no confirmation on all of this but had to let the rest of you know. I asked him to talk to management and let him know that I had 600 or so of my closest friends that would be interested in padding this private audience to insure a gracious audience of fans that appreciate her music. As soon as I have more details I will let you guys know and do my best to get you access to the show if any of you crazies can make it. I am sorry I could not divulge this sooner, but I felt it was in my best interest at work. I was also certain that someone else might have heard something by now. I hope we are able to confirm this within the next couple of days. My best to you, Michael NP-Take Five(Take Another Five)-Grover Washington, Jr./The Columbia Years ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:38:23 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Goodbye Blue Sky! Sue wrote: "Joni was joined onstage by flutist James Galway, performing with a pre-recorded backing track on the song "Goodbye, Blue Sky." She also re-appeared at the finale and sang a few solo lines for "The Tide Is Turning" clustered with Sinead O'Connor, Thomas Dolby and Bryan Adams at one side of an elevated platform." Hi Sue Happy New Years! Thanks for mentioning this. I just pulled out my copy of The Wall Live cause I haven't hear this in so long. Wow! Her voice sounded so great on this tune. Let ALL the walls come tumbling down. I guess it's time to burn a new CD with obscure Joni stuff on it. Oh if only there was more time in the day... Cheers, Michael NP-Goodbye Blue Sky ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:55:33 -0500 From: Kathleen Kajioka Subject: Re: Amour, mama, not cheap display! David Wright wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Don Rowe wrote: > > could Joni's Canadian upbringing be the simplest explanation for her > > love of things French? > > I wouldn't think so, because isn't Quebec (in eastern Canada) > the main French-Canadian province, whereas Joni comes from the open > prairie of the midwest? > > --David Agreed. In English Canada, I can't say that there's a huge romanticization of all things french on the basis of the presence of Quebec--in many regions I would even say it's quite the opposite. But even if it is true, the French influence through Quebec is largely a different animal than that from France. Though they share a similar spirit, they are essentially two different cultures. I would think Joni picked it up from 'France proper'. Kathleen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:06:47 -0600 From: "Mark T. Domyancich" Subject: Re: JONI IN NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!! This is incredible, Michael! Any idea of what she will perform? I kinda get the impression it will be like the Reprise Music Show.... count me in as one who's interested! NPIMH-Sweet Sucker Dance At 10:13 PM -0600 1/10/00, Michael Paz wrote: >My boss informed me that he got a call from a friend of his who is >working as Joni's road manager. He says she is booked to play the NATPE >Convention (TV producers and actors etc.) later this month for a private show on the 28th of January at a local hotel ballroom. Mark Domyancich Harpua@revealed.net http://home.revealed.net/Harpua ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:09:38 +1100 From: john low Subject: Slouching Towards Bethlehem A bit of ‘Joni spotting’ down under: For what I guess are obvious reasons, “Slouching Towards Bethlehem” has been a song much on my mind in recent weeks. So, when I spotted Joni’s name in the literary section of “The Sydney Morning Herald” last weekend, I was not surprised to find that it was in relation to this song. A local academic and literary critic, in an article on millenarian "doomsaying", mentioned the fact that she had set the central image in W. B. Yeats’s poem “The Second Coming” to music. I was interested to read, too, that Norman Mailer considered this poem to be the “most important poem of the 20th century”. I guess I’m not the only one to have this song (and poem) on their mind at this time! John (in Sydney). __________________________________________________________________ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:40:30 -0600 From: evian Subject: Amour, mama, not cheap display! Don Rowe wonders, > 'm probably opening mouth, inserting foot and chewing > vigorously on this one -- but could Joni's Canadian > upbringing be the simplest explanation for her love of > things French? > Hell no... not on the prairies, anyway. Here you see bigtime resentment against Quebec, and French really is a small minority of Saskatchewan culture... I'd say the biggest ethnic groups here are Aboriginal, Ukrainian, and Germans... I did a paper on this once, and I think that is what the results were. Anyway, I think it's safe to say that Joni's love of all things French doesn't stem from just being Canadian. Basically, French Canada is like a foreign land to most people on the prairies. I dunno, Kate in Alberta, you are from Saskatchewan too, what do you think? I can't think of any French influence apart from a few French Metis settlements around Duck Lake.Evian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:09:45 -0600 From: evian Subject: more on Joni in S'toon Kakki counselled: > Evian, take a deep breath and start planning how to slip out of the house. > It will only be a few hours out of that Friday night and you might even be > able to fit in the JMDL afterparty over at the Bessborough ;-D > Hehehehe, don't worry, I'll think of something! I started a new job last week, and I work there one day a week until May 1st, when I start full time (hopefully my thesis, if not the defense, and language requirement will be done by then). So, I am going to have to be crafty in asking for a day off for June 30th, but damnit, they better give it to me! As for the reunion, I am thinking that I can somehow miss Friday night, and I'll just creep home Saturday morning with a hangover and still get to see all those wackos, errr.. I mean... relatives.... on Saturday. But God, it's the story of my life to have all this stuff happen at once! Brian also asked: > Who do you love more, the JMDL or your relatives?? :-) > I can't answer that, some of them have computers and can access the archives ;)Anyway, I'll let you all know when the date is FOR SURE confirmed... I am just puzzled that they are doing this when I thought they would wait until the time when Joni got her honourary degree.... Evian, who has practically gotten diarrhea wondering if this still constitutes Joni Content. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: Re: JONI IN NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!! Michael wrote: <> This is wonderful news Michael! If this can get confirmed and the audience isn't limited to *just* convention attenders, this could actually be do-able for quite a few listers, at least from the States. I went back to Yahoo travel to look up RT fares to New Orleans, and they're excellent. From Boston $162, from Philly $172, from Miami $152, from Chicago $178-197, from Seattle $188, from Portland $178, from L.A. $198. And a lot of the airlines have extended or added flights so these prices also fit the N.O. Jonifest window. (they had ended 3/31) Penny :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Grace dies when it becomes us verses them......Philip Yancey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:29:42 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: JONI IN NEW ORLEANS!!!!!!! Penny wrote: >This is wonderful news Michael! If this can get confirmed >and the audience isn't limited to *just* convention >attenders, this could actually be do-able for quite a few >listers, at least from the States. Me, too! Thank you Michael for letting us know and thinking of us. It would be a dream come true if a few jmdlers could squeeze in. Wish I had some NAPTE connections and could get a few extra badges! I'm also very curious as to whether Joni might preview some new material at the show. > I went back to Yahoo travel to look up RT fares to New >Orleans, and they're excellent. From Boston $162, from >Philly $172, from Miami $152, from Chicago $178-197, >from Seattle $188, from Portland $178, from L.A. $198. >And a lot of the airlines have extended or added flights so >these prices also fit the N.O. Jonifest window. (they had >ended 3/31) Thanks for alerting us, Penny! These are incredible fares that many of us can take advantage of for Jonifest, too. Kakki, going to check her credit card balance now ;-) NPIMH: Dusty Springfield - Wishin' and Hopin' ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #12 ******************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?