From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #11 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Monday, January 10 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 011 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Where "hits" misses ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Joni Tape Tree #3 on 3 Audio Cassettes ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Mr Ripley [Roman ] photo of joni ["Sue Cameron" ] Re: photo of joni [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: KCSN Interview [EVRIBUTJON@aol.com] More JC Questions ["Russell Bowden" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 [Riveragelsinger@aol.com] Plug Of The Week #1 ["Peter Holmstedt" ] Joni and Pink Floyd [Relayer211@aol.com] RE: LondonFest [howard ] Re: KCSN Interview ["Kakki" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 ["Kakki" ] UK list offer - joni interview tape ["David Foley" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 05:10:32 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Where "hits" misses I'm up early on this fine Sunday morning. I've never warmed up to the hits collection much. Today I noticed this: Chelsea Morning ends with Joni strumming her guitar, playing the changes. On the "hits" collection, it's followed by Big Yellow Taxi, strumming again. Not only strumming again, but it sounds like the _same_ changes. It sounds like she has no melodies to choose from, which is completely wrong! I guess it's the order of play that I don't warm up to. np: hits in HDCD format ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:18:46 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni Tape Tree #3 on 3 Audio Cassettes Tape Tree #3 is available free on audio cassette. Tape Tree #3 offers a retrospective of the early years of Joni's career between 1966 and 1968, originally broadcast in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. It also includes a live performance at a place called the 2nd Fret, also in Philadelphia on October 1967. Finally, the third tape has 2 discussions with Joan. First interview took place in 1988, to announce the (then) new album called "Chalk Mark In A Rainstorm", and in 1995 in an interview with Todd Rungren. This tape tree acts as an excellent introduction to the tape trees in general, Joni's early years before her recording contract and the middle period stuff. First read Les's introduction to tape trees at http://jmdl.com/trading/ Then send an email to me and I'll fill you in! - -- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:29:44 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Buying CDs this week? Hello JMDLers! Help JMDL & buy CDs at the same time! http://www.cdnow.com/from=sr-159240 http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/cdu_main.asp?frm=lk_jmdl Each of these e-stores will refund 5% of sales made from these links to offset the cost of operating the Joni Mitchell Discussion List. Please consider using them as a way to thank Les for all that he has done for the JM Internet community. In fact, if you bookmark these URLs, it will all happen automatically. This is James Earl Jones say, "Thank you for your consideration." As the song says, "More fulfilling -and less frustrating." All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu in Highland Heights, Kentucky, a suburb of Cincinnati, Ohio, USA. ** Get well, Wally!** np: static from the cheesy sound card that came in my HP tower. What's up with towers anyway? You still need a box to raise the monitor to eye level! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:46:57 +0100 From: Roman Subject: Re: Mr Ripley Julie Webb wrote: >The best visual massage movie release: "The Talented Mr. Ripley, " >is gorgeously photographed Hey, that's weird! I just read this book over the Christmas holidays - picked it up in a used English bookstore in Rome - It was an edition that included all three Ripley novels, and I'd wanted to read it for some years after seeing Wim Wenders's 'An American Friend', based on 'Ripley's Game'. Dennis Hopper plays the slightly older Ripley in the magnificent way that perhaps only Dennis Hopper could have played this part. Anyway, I ate up the three books inside of a week, finishing just a couple of days ago, which is pretty fast for me. What a nice coincidental surprise that 'Talented' is now a movie too. I agree, Cusack would have been miles better for the title role though, but I'll reserve judgement until I see it. >Tomorrow we see "Mansfield Park." yet another novel I only just read - well, eighteen months ago actually, but it was my first ever foray into Jane Austen, so that kind of makes it recent. Tube ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 11:12:55 -0500 From: "Sue Cameron" Subject: photo of joni Congrats Howard on your momento of Joni. I keep the autographed book of her poems and lyrics displayed prominently on my bookshelf. It is something I will cherish forever as it will remind me of the two magical days in October of 1998. When Joni was tourning Don McGee (or was it Dan?) was the man Terry contacted in Detroit for a heads up as to when we could meet up with Joni. We speculated at the time that maybe this is a cousin? McGee is Myrtle's birthname and since Joni has no sibs it makes sense that she might employ a male cousin to be her road manager. Does anyone know for sure on this educated guess? Suze ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 13:40:45 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: photo of joni In a message dated 1/9/2000 11:17:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, scam1@freeway.net writes: << When Joni was tourning Don McGee (or was it Dan?) was the man Terry >> I'm pretty sure it's Dan and he is incredibly sweet! Terry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:20:43 EST From: EVRIBUTJON@aol.com Subject: Re: KCSN Interview Hi Everybody, This is my first post, after lurking for about 2 years. I just received from Bob Muller the KCSN interview (Thanks again, Bob!). When the orchestra started and I gradually realized it was "A Case Of You", and then Joni's older & wiser voice came in, I was swept away. The tears started rolling down my cheeks. It brought me right back to where I was when I first heard the original version. (An unhappy love affair). Almost 30 years later, hearing her sing it again, now middle-aged, it summoned up all kinds of different feelings. What a beautiful version of a classic song. I can't wait to here the whole album. I also loved the interview, hearing Joni explain her paintings and laughing so much. So I just had to post. John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 11:22:52 PST From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: More JC Questions Hey, All, Quick ones....Who has info on the Saskatoon 2000 thang??? Joni's art exhibit, etc. If this is happening, I'm very interested... Apologies if this one has been discussed before. I just finished reading the book 'Borderliners' by Peter Hoeg (author of Smilla's Sense of Snow) THIS IS NOT A PLUG! Anyhow, a lot of the theories and slightly mindbending concepts in that book I found to be very similar to Our Queen's song of nearly the same name...They both came out around the same time. Forever searching for the roots of the songs. Any takers? Love, Russ np The First Art (singing and chorale singing) NPR ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:39:04 EST From: Riveragelsinger@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 I am a newcomer to this discussion list and not very technologically adept at this yet. I am very grateful and amazed at the high quality of Wally Breese's work in creating JoniMitchell.com. I look forward to "discussing" the strengths and weaknesses of Ms. Mitchell's lyrics. I have nothing really to say about her music, but will sit back to listen and learn about it, if you will let me. Like many of you, I have enjoyed following Joni Mitchell's art from age 16, when I fell for a girl friend who was performing her music on stage and was a Joni clone. I liked the music's early folk roots and have kept up over the years to her latest work. I do not really understand a lot of what many of you are talking about. I am not a particularly dense person, but I am someone whose focus is on thoughts, ideas, art and the creative process. I am not focused on other people's personal matters, although I am glad people are clear on their own standings in the world. I understand that people do have the need to bond emotionally , but I have plenty of emotional intensity in my life already. I am not looking for pen-pals or a chat room to share my privacy. If this is what the so-called "discussion list" is, I will undoubtedly drop out soon. If, however, we can get some focused discussion going about Ms. Michell's literary and musical work, which will inevitably require some of her input, then I'm in for a while. I have some training in successful staff development. I still work with a staff of 100+ people. In order to facilitate effective discussions in which ev eryone makes a contribution, or at least feels an obligation to focus on the topic at hand, we developed one focus question at a time related to our profession, after we had already taken time to come up with some agreed upon norms we all could live with. Since we are not in the same room or face-to-face, some people who wish to go off on a tangent not related to the focus question could remind themselves to focus on the discussion question at hand, and perhaps find a way to share e-mail addresses to talk about other more personal things. So I propose that, if you want, each of us answers a first focus question individually, which would be: What group norms do I need everyone to respect in order for me to focus on particular aspects of Joni Mitchell's body of work? I need people to withhold all side-bar conversations and to send all tangential Joni Mitchell information to individual e-mail addresses or to Wally Breese to publish in another format. Sorry to sound so "take-charge," but I want to get on with the discussion, and avoid feeling as though I'm eavesdropping on private and personal conversations. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:00:58 +0100 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Plug Of The Week #1 Hi there, Another year and another bunch of great music! ...'cause music's why we're here, right? The CD that has occupied my player, the most, for the last couple of weeks is : Bob Cheevers - The Stories I Write ( Hayden's Ferry ) Bob grew up in Memphis and got a soul full of music from his mom, who was a radio star in the late 20's - then with home boys Elvis, Jerry Lee, Carl Perkins and Johnny Cash. Moving to California after college, Bob landed his first, in a series of major record deals, on Dot, Paramount and Acta, leading to a string of chart records and writing deals with publishing companies, including MCA Music, Cobra Music, FMA Music and Criterion Music. During the 80's, after two of Bob's music videos won 8 Emmys, including "Best Musical Composition Of 1986", he organized the "Bob Cheevers' Sacramento Song Writers Showcase" which, for two years, featured high profile regional, as well as national hit writers and became Bob's springboard to Nashville. After several years as a Nashville songwriter Bob eventually stepped up to take a swing at his own career. The result was "Gettysburg To Graceland" ( on Back 9 Records ) which went into the Gavin Americana Top 20 and was in the group from which were chosen the 1998 Grammy nominees for "Best Contemporary Folk CD". The album featured such stellar musicians as John Cowan, Mike Henderson, Larry Knechtel and Jonell Mosser. During the same time, Bob Cheevers helped out on a musical tribute to Brown County, Indiana - "Liar's Bench" by Slats Klug, Stephen Miller and friends. The second volume in the series, "My Brown County Home" has just been released ( Thank you, Michael ! ) . Both volumes features great, folky stuff by Bob, Dave Gore, Robbie Bowden, Carrie Newcomer, Libby Parish and others. Bob's new CD, "The Stories I Write", combines his Delta Folk style of storytelling with a distinct Southern flavour - songs drawn from the well of personal experience. It's a fitting next step along the road that runs from Gettysburg to Graceland. On the new album Bob is accompanied by Dash Crofts (Seals & Crofts), Spooner Oldham, Louie Shelton, Swain Schaeffer and others. Copies of these beautiful albums are available from : Cheeversongs 519 Plantation Ct. Nashville TN 37221 U.S.A. Phone: 615 - 646 - 4139 Fax: 615 - 673 - 0321 Email: cheeversongs@earthlink.net Website: http://www.songs.com/cheevers or Hayden's Ferry Records PO Box 27747 Tempe AZ 85283 Phone: 602 - 431 - 1115 Fax: 602 - 453 - 9641 Email: info@haydensferry.com Website: http://www.haydensferry.com Great music from a great singer/songwriter! Take care, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 15:59:24 EST From: Relayer211@aol.com Subject: Joni and Pink Floyd I have been a big Pink Floyd fan for a long time,as well as a Joni Mitchell fan.I was wondering how did Joni wind up singing with Roger Waters at the performance of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" in Berlin in 1990?Does anyone know the story behind that?what does Joni think about "The Wall" and the performance in Berlin at the Berlin Wall? thanks for any info. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 18:56:56 +0000 From: howard Subject: RE: LondonFest >I sure would love it (Jamie) if you guys would plan another gathering when >the weather is warmer. Maybe in August? Jamie Zubairi wrote: >I would love that to happen! Perhaps in the same place. I guess it just >depends on whether any non-English (and that means people up in Scotland, >Howard;-)) would be in town. Actually, I'm no longer in Edinburgh - I'm down in *very* English Malvern, near Worcester. So another meet in London would be great for me! I hope there will be another this year - I'm really looking forward to meeting some of you guys. I don't know if Marian would be able to make it to the UK again (how do you manage all the travelling?!?) but I hope so. We have to meet up sometime soon! Howard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 13:16:44 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: KCSN Interview Hi John, Glad to see you delurk after two years (wow)! You wrote: >When the orchestra started and I gradually realized it was >"A Case Of You", and then Joni's older & wiser voice >came in, I was swept away. The tears started rolling down >my cheeks. I'm amazed that the power of the new version came through for you through all the echo and static. You better get the Kleenex ready for when you hear it in its full glory ;-) Kakki NP: Van Morrison - "Yeh, Yeh" (Just learned last minute info that Van Man is playing the Wiltern here in L.A. 1/25 and 1/26 - YEEHAH!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 13:44:21 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 Hi Riveragelsinger and welcome to the list! You wrote: >I look forward to "discussing" the strengths and >weaknesses of Ms. Mitchell's lyrics. I have nothing really > to say about her music, but will sit back to listen and >learn about it, if you will let me. You will enjoy many wonderful discussions of Joni's lyrics and music here. We've always have incredible threads on the many intricacies of Joni's work - so much so that I long ago came to feel like I am earning a Ph.D in Joni. However, sometimes the class like to take a break and "free associate" ;-) >I have some training in successful staff development. I still >work with a staff of 100+ people. In order to facilitate >effective discussions in which everyone makes a >contribution, or at least feels an obligation to focus on the > topic at hand, we developed one focus question at a time >related to our profession, after we had already taken time >to come up with some agreed upon norms we all could live >with. Since you are new to the list, you may not be aware that there is an option to receive only posts about Joni. Sometimes that system does not work perfectly because we forget to label our posts NJC (No Joni Content) and they slip through to the "Only-Joni" list. Also, some people on the Only-Joni list think the content is sometimes too tangential to be included. We have had these discussions about the list content on a regular basis since the inception of the JMDL over three years ago. Another aspect of this list that makes it unlike some many other discussion lists is that it is distinctly *unmoderated* so the culture of the list has evolved so that no one person leads a focus group or arbitrates the content, not even the list owner. Right, wrong or indifferent that's the inherent nature of the list. As the list owner and several listmembers have suggested on many occasions - if you don't care for the current discussion(s), you can try to start a new Joni topic or thread going and you will likely see the tide turn back to Joni. It's a free-wheeling and somewhat unstructured group here, but that's kind of a prominent trait of creative people, which is who mostly comprises this list. Like any great freedom, it can probably be abused sometimes, but without it we would surely miss out on some great communications, which I assure you, exist more in here than any other place I know. Kakki NP: Van Morrison - When Will I Ever Learn to Live in God . ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:41:21 -0000 From: "David Foley" Subject: UK list offer - joni interview tape Happy New Year everyone. Many thanks Kakki for sending me the tape. If anyone in the UK is interested in a copy of the tape, please get in touch so that I can get a feel for demand and start planning the copying. Best Wishes David ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:52:28 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: KCSN Interview John said: << This is my first post, after lurking for about 2 years. I just received from Bob Muller the KCSN interview (Thanks again, Bob!). When the orchestra started and I gradually realized it was "A Case Of You", and then Joni's older & wiser voice came in, I was swept away. The tears started rolling down my cheeks. It brought me right back to where I was when I first heard the original version. (An unhappy love affair). Almost 30 years later, hearing her sing it again, now middle-aged, it summoned up all kinds of different feelings. What a beautiful version of a classic song. >> Well, John, I'll send you another tape in 2 years and you can post again... :~D Seriously, thanks for this wonderful de-lurk. Between your comments and Kakki's, I KNOW I will listen to the song with a new ear. Now that you're out here, stay & play! And anybody else who wants this interview, lemme know and I'll hook you up! If you love Joni's paintings, you'll love this hour of conversation. Joni is very clearly enjoying talking about her painting and not just being limited to discussing her music... Bob NP: Cat Stevens, "Wild World" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 20:00:29 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 In a message dated 1/9/00 5:13:31 PM US Central Standard Time, Riveragelsinger@aol.com writes: << I have nothing really to say about her music, but will sit back to listen and learn about it, if you will let me. >> Welcome to you, "R"...feel free to prop up your feet, break out the chips, and spectate all you like. But I can tell you, the real fun ain't in watchin' the dancers but rather getting out on the floor yourself... << I need people to withhold all side-bar conversations and to send all tangential Joni Mitchell information to individual e-mail addresses or to Wally Breese to publish in another format.>> LOL!!! Did someone say "bar" and "conversations"? I'm there!! :~) Bob NP: Cat Stevens, "Moonshadow" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:55:33 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RV: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 sjc - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Wally Kairuz Para: ; Enviado: Domingo 9 de Enero de 2000 22:18 Asunto: RE: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 sjc hello and welcome brand X [sorry, you forgot to sign], the following is only my opinion and i don't presume to be speaking for the whole list. what you propose in your message is hardly how this list works. your idea makes me feel as if i were at a staff meeting at mckinsey and co. it has been sufficiently explained that there are different ways you can subscribe to the list [digest, only joni, the whole shebang, etc.]. if you feel that the conversation is getting too boring or out of focus, you just need to sign for the only joni list. occasionally, some post that is not supposed to go to the only joni will slip through because one of us will forget to label or whatever. but signing in for the right list is all it takes to avoid feeling you're wasting your time. besides, we're always talking about joni. sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. it depends. when joni is about to tour or release a cd, the joni content increases. then there are lull periods or periods in which another topic arises and the list plunges into it with a vengeance. this is a very protean list. there are some basic etiquette rules that we all try to respect [sometimes we don't succeed] and then we just pick up on whatever we care to discuss or delete or save in a separate folder, etc.. one thing this list is not is regimental or organized around a managerial chart. again, all of us read our welcome messages to the list or les's page. there is sufficient information there on how to find the list mode that best suits our personal aspirations. the rest is up to each of us. additionally, if there's anything in particular you [original sender] want to discuss, go ahead and state YOUR individual question related to joni mitchell -- not to human resources management -- and somebody bites or maybe nobody bites and it sits up in a loft somewhere till it dies. wallyk > > ----- Mensaje original ----- > De: > Para: > Enviado: Domingo 9 de Enero de 2000 16:39 > Asunto: Re: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 > > > > I am a newcomer to this discussion list and not very technologically > > adept at this yet. I am very grateful and amazed at the high quality of > Wally > > Breese's work in creating JoniMitchell.com. I look forward to "discussing" > > the strengths and weaknesses of Ms. Mitchell's lyrics. I have nothing > really > > to say about her music, but will sit back to listen and learn about it, if > > you will let me. Like many of you, I have enjoyed following Joni > Mitchell's > > art from age 16, when I fell for a girl friend who was performing her > music > > on stage and was a Joni clone. I liked the music's early folk roots and > have > > kept up over the years to her latest work. I do not really understand a > lot > > of what many of you are talking about. I am not a particularly dense > person, > > but I am someone whose focus is on thoughts, ideas, art and the creative > > process. I am not focused on other people's personal matters, although I > am > > glad people are clear on their own standings in the world. I understand > that > > people do have the need to bond emotionally , but I have plenty of > emotional > > intensity in my life already. I am not looking for pen-pals or a chat room > to > > share my privacy. If this is what the so-called "discussion list" is, I > will > > undoubtedly drop out soon. If, however, we can get some focused discussion > > going about Ms. Michell's literary and musical work, which will inevitably > > require some of her input, then I'm in for a while. > > I have some training in successful staff development. I still work > with a > > staff of 100+ people. In order to facilitate effective discussions in > which ev > > eryone makes a contribution, or at least feels an obligation to focus on > the > > topic at hand, we developed one focus question at a time related to our > > profession, after we had already taken time to come up with some agreed > upon > > norms we all could live with. Since we are not in the same room or > > face-to-face, some people who wish to go off on a tangent not related to > the > > focus question could remind themselves to focus on the discussion question > at > > hand, and perhaps find a way to share e-mail addresses to talk about other > > more personal things. > > So I propose that, if you want, each of us answers a first focus > question > > individually, which would be: > > What group norms do I need everyone to respect in order for me to focus on > > particular aspects of Joni Mitchell's body of work? > > > > I need people to withhold all side-bar conversations and to send all > > tangential Joni Mitchell information to individual e-mail addresses or to > > Wally Breese to publish in another format. > > > > Sorry to sound so "take-charge," but I want to get on with the > > discussion, and avoid feeling as though I'm eavesdropping on private and > > personal conversations. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 02:33:45 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: RV: JMDL Digest V2000 #13 sjc Gosh Wally, you are quite right! I've just read the message again, and I didn't realsie how *offish* it was.... Hi Riverangel. With the greatest of respect, it seems you need to select the *joni-only* option for e-mails from this list. Glad you like the work Wally's put into the site, and I'm sure the *joni-only* discussions will provide what you're looking for. Perhaps your tone was unfortunate, or unintentional, but it didn't come across too well. You won't find a nicer, friendlier and more open-minded buch of folks on the net....treat them kindly :-) It's more a *community* than a cold discussion forum, really. Whatever floats your boat, I can understand how some might not wish to deal with the non-Joni content. Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 22:15:19 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: I'm Baaaaaaaaaack ! Hello All- Gawd how I have missed you guys. I had access to a puter at my sisters house, but was not able to retrieve my email from the att netmail thing. We had a wonderful restful time and I am sooo glad to be home. Julian kept saying I want to go home to my own house and I know exactly how he feels. New Years was awesome on the beach at a friends home with a few families, fewer friends, a live band for me to jam with, and some fireworks on the beach. We were less than 30 pp and it was just sooo special. I thought of you guys several times that night and sent you a dedication when I did Love Puts On A New Face. The guys in the band loved the Joni stuff, so I know have to go out and get a bunch of CD's for them to hear. The guitar player used to be my bass player in one of the bands I had down there. I was able to play several times over vacation and last Thursday night played in a club with some other guys I use to play with. Alot of family and friends came out to the gig and we had a wonderful time together. One of Honduras's most famous singers Moises Canelo (a guy I use to be in a band with almost 30 years ago) came over to my sisters house and we passed an acoustic guitar around till 3am, then he joined us for the jam at the club with my other friends. I have not caught up with the digests yet, but I am trying. My list for top releases last year in no particular order: Macy Gray Buena Vista Social Club Santana David Lahm Jazz Takes On Joni Tim Reynolds and Dave Matthews Live Of course I got so many other recordings over the year that were sooo amazing from Bob, Steve, Kakki, Harper Lou, Les, Marcel,.....I am so looking forward to this year and the Joni Tribute show here in New Orleans. I will be posting the news I promised from the office tomorrow. Stay tuned! Love you all, Michael NP-Golden Lady-Stevie Wonder ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2000 #11 ******************************** Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?