From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #300 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Friday, December 17 1999 Volume 01 : Number 300 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Radio 4 SJC [Jamie Zubairi ] open mics [Kleronomos@aol.com] Radio 4 Woman's Hour book SJC [Roman ] Re: Holidaze B&P Offer [waytoblu@mindspring.com] those jmdlfest cds [Julie Webb ] Marian Hendrix!?! ChuckE Webb [Julie Webb ] Re: Marian Hendrix!?! ChuckE Webb [michael w yarbrough ] Hejira from the floor above! [Emily Kirk Gray ] Re: Marian Hendrix!?! ChuckE Webb [Julie Webb ] Re: London Joni fest [AzeemAK@aol.com] Re: Hejira from the floor above! [michael w yarbrough ] Re: Holidaze B&P Offer [waytoblu@mindspring.com] Re: A mind is a terrible thing to waste - JC now ... [FMYFL@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:48:20 -0000 From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: RE: Radio 4 SJC Roman wrote: >I remember some other radio play that R4 did a couple of years ago, just before I left England, and they used a Joni track as the intro theme music for that too. Can't remember what it was though - something off Court & Spark I think. Maybe People's Parties. The radio show was that one where they read a serialisation of a different novel each week on Woman's Hour. I think the story was about an 'older-than-her-years' thirteen year old girl and her nutty mum and auntie. Maybe someone here remembers it? Tube. It was Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit by..... Jeannette Winterson ? Catman, was it? I can't remember. And in the novel she actually quotes 'but who am I to send my questions to, with heaven full of astronauts and the lord on death row?' Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:55:14 EST From: Kleronomos@aol.com Subject: open mics Sarah Schuckman wrote: <> Hi Sarah! and welcome! Playing at "open mic" nights will probably be one of the biggest helps for you to grow in your performance abilities! (Just ask Joni, or Ani DeFranco, or Neil Young) The host and / or the sound person will do their best to set you up, and to make adjustments once you start singing. They generally need you to sing fairly close to the mic (about six to ten inches) and to stay at the same distance throughout the song. Just do your thing, and let them worry about making you sound good "in the house". If you don't have a monitor (a speaker pointed toward you), you'll have no idea what it really sounds like "out there." Just go for it. I also have a quiet presentation, vocally. There is nothing wrong with that. That's why they have amps and speakers! Just concentrate on your playing and singing, and do it as you would in your bedroom. A good sound man can do wonders, and a bad one can make anyone sound like crap! All you can control is your performance. Another note: If you have an EQ "on board" your guitar, then set it "flat", that is, all sliders in the middle. Joni content, loosely connected to the open mic question: In the Joni concert with James Taylor (1970 BBC), she tells a story of Neil Young turning twenty-one and no longer being allowed in the little club that he had been performing in (a teen club), and that he'd written "Sugar Mountain" to lament his lost youth. He set out to be a folk singer at that point. Then she introduced "The Circle Game" as a song she had written for him.... an answer to his lament. I'll never again hear "The Circle Game" the way I used to! Dan NP: "Bobby" Nashville Skyline ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:17:37 +0100 From: Roman Subject: Radio 4 Woman's Hour book SJC Jamie Zubairi wrote: > > Roman wrote: > > >I remember some other radio play that R4 did a couple of years ago, just > before I left England, and they used a Joni track as the intro theme > music for that too. Can't remember what it was though - something off > Court & Spark I think. A serialisation on Woman's Hour. I think the story was about an 'older-than-her-years' thirteen year old girl and her nutty mum and auntie. Maybe someone here > remembers it? > It was Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit by..... Jeannette Winterson ? No, I'm vaguely familiar with that, and I don't think it's the one. "Oranges.." is a little grim isn't it? This other story was very light-hearted, set completely in the mid-nineties. They broadcast it summer of 97. I didn't enjoy it much actually - too cliched. It was just background while I worked, which at the time involved my use of an electric-sander, so I only caught snatches of it! But it definitely started with something off Court & Spark. Tube ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:28:41 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Holidaze B&P Offer Name the third date in which just Rick (from the Band) performed with the Grateful Dead? Was it 7/9/95, the very last show of the Dead for which the Band opened up? Victor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:04:32 -0500 From: Julie Webb Subject: those jmdlfest cds OH MY GAWDDDDD------ After thrillin' to listen to the first cd: ChuckE, Ashara, Marian, Catgirl, Terry, Anne from Jonifest 99 at Ashara's, Im now hearing cd 2 and Paz sounds like he is in my livingroom the sound is so clear!!!! He is singing "Chinese Cafe" I love it!!!! These cds are unbelievable. How could Joni not be touched listening to them! Sigh......wishing I was there again jamming and f-trooping away. Oh well. Paz just finished "Amelia" gotta go, Julie, who thinks that these cds are ten times better than the Central Park Jazz performances....(Chaka, who I normally love, sounded like she was in labor and my other favorite, Jane Sibbury, comes off sounding pre-alzheimer-ish.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:59:39 -0500 From: Julie Webb Subject: Marian Hendrix!?! ChuckE Webb Oh wow, Marian is actually singing "All Along The Watchtower" and it sounds sooo fine! I've never heard a woman sing this Hendrix song. It's so earthy and different. I wish I had gone to Atty May's. ----Julie, who's now hearing the smooth-as-silk-sounds of ChuckE's "Lineman for the County" (Confession: I like his "Rainy Night House" better than Joni's.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:07:38 -0600 (CST) From: michael w yarbrough Subject: Re: Marian Hendrix!?! ChuckE Webb I'll be the first and probably nicest one to gently point out that "Watchtower" is a Dylan song. Check out _Radio Plastic Jennifer_ for fellow JMDLer Bryan Thomas's interpretation. - --Michael NP: Victor Calderone, _VC2_ NR: Richard Wright, _Native Son_ (*awesome and highly recommended) - ----------------------------------------------------------- "I'm not ready to change my name again... I'd just like to see you sometime." - --Joni Mitchell, "See You Sometime" On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Julie Webb wrote: > Oh wow, Marian is actually singing "All Along The Watchtower" and it > sounds sooo fine! I've never heard a woman sing this Hendrix song. > It's so earthy and different. I wish I had gone to Atty > May's. ----Julie, who's now hearing the smooth-as-silk-sounds of > ChuckE's "Lineman for the County" (Confession: I like his "Rainy > Night House" better than Joni's.) > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:13:03 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: A mind is a terrible thing to waste - JC now ... Songs we might hear on the album after "Both Sides Now" ... since Joni'll have her chateau paid for: Land Deeds Are The Best Security My Secret Place ... Mine, All Mine Lead Balloon Payment Joni's House/Centerpiece The Cat That Lives In The House I Now Own Free and Clear Free Man in Malibu The Last Time I Saw Mortgage Payments Cold Blue Steel Gates and Sweet Fireplaces Bankers Sing the Blues Sweet Title Dance Come on listas ... Les is right, things have been too slow! Don Rowe ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:30:46 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: DJRD "largely improvised"? hi everyone -- below is an email david sent to me but meant to send to the whole list...he asked me to cut and paste it in, which i am happy to do! (is this OK, david?) I'm jumping on in the middle of this thread, but here goes: DJRD is, to me, remarkable for the way Joni seems to open herself to the influence of Jaco. She really lets him take the lead, right from the beginning of he "Overture." The music on the date itself may not all have been literally improvised, but it sounds to me as if a lot of it could have been GENERATED by improvisation. Maybe they jammed together and she got inspired by what he was doing, learned from him or figured out what it was and then went on from there. Certainly the percussion jam is improv; a good deal of "Paprika Plains" might have been. I think it's also significant how "The Silky Veils of Ardor" stands out on the record; it's different in feeling from everything else, an elegant backward look at her earlier style. Am I correct that many of us feel it's one of her greatest triumphs? D LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:51:53 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: Hejira from the floor above! hi all. i thought i'd share a random story: i spend about three nights a week at my boyfriend's apartment in williamsburg, brooklyn (well, if you must know the term "boyfriend" is still up for debate with me but that's a whole other email...) -- and he lives in a loft space that's part factory, part artist's studio. anyway he has been having enormous problems with his upstairs neighbor who plays madonna's "ray of light" CD LITERALLY EVERY MORNING AT ABOUT 7:30. i didn't believe it was every morning but then i witnessed it myself -- waking up to a jarring, thumping suppressed bass and those annoying pseudo-spiritual lyrics (i LOVE madonna, but this album is not my fave). my boyfriend has nicely complained and now he just fumes. why would anyone want to play the same album (NEVER another record, even another madonna) every single morning? at top volume? it's been a question of much debate. anyway -- about two weeks ago i was jolted awake by the music from above, but coming out of a deep sleep i thought "that sounds like jaco" which really woke me up -- and sure enough, it was strains of "hejira" coming through the ceiling above! i freaked out, started quoting all the lyrics to my boyfriend (he's a little wary of my joni love) and left his place with a warm feeling about the upstairs neighbor. then we had about two more weeks of "ray of light" -- but this morning i woke up to the lyric "chew the last few dollars off old beale street's carcass" and started smiling in the dark, following the song in my mind (he never seems to play the whole album, only a song or two). i can't tell you what a small secret wonder this has been! such a strange and yet completely typical kind of new york city "encounter." here you can live next to people (or below them, as it were) your whole life, making up your knowledge or impressions of them out of snips and glimpses. all i know about the upstairs neighbor (besides "ray of light" and "hejira") is that he is a department store window decorator. but now to me he is a different, more real person -- i've written about him in my journal, imagined what he gets or needs from these songs before he leaves for the day...and i've never seen him -- maybe never will. i don't even know his name. but the more pragmatic upshot is that i made my boyfriend promise never to angrily complain about the noise... and he said, "i know, i know, no one who loves joni can be all that bad, right?" he's learning! - -- emily ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:44:14 -0500 From: Julie Webb Subject: Re: Marian Hendrix!?! ChuckE Webb michael w yarbrough wrote: > I'll be the first and probably nicest one to gently point out that > "Watchtower" is a Dylan song. Dear Michael-Y-who-is-nice, Well thank you for pointing that out. (It was so " Judy-Colllins-wrote-"BothSidesNow" of me.) I somehow always considered "All Along The Watchtower" to be a Hendrix tune. Go figure, -JulienotJimmyWebb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:46:38 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Re: London Joni fest Jamie, I could also put a couple of people up, if that's any help. Where can I get more info on what's going to happen, how many people are going etc? Cheers Azeem ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:59:39 -0600 (CST) From: michael w yarbrough Subject: Re: Hejira from the floor above! Emily wrote: > madonna's "ray of light" > "hejira > department store window decorator Hmmmmm. I bet *I* know something about your upstair's friend. :-) Just promise to call me if he ever wakes you up with _What's the 411?_ Then I think I may be in love. - --Michael - ----------------------------------------------------------- "I'm not ready to change my name again... I'd just like to see you sometime." - --Joni Mitchell, "See You Sometime" On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Emily Kirk Gray wrote: > > hi all. i thought i'd share a random story: > i spend about three nights a week at my boyfriend's > apartment in williamsburg, brooklyn (well, if you > must know the term "boyfriend" is still up for > debate with me but that's a whole other email...) -- > and he lives in a loft space that's part factory, > part artist's studio. anyway he has been having > enormous problems with his upstairs neighbor who > plays madonna's "ray of light" CD LITERALLY EVERY > MORNING AT ABOUT 7:30. i didn't believe it was > every morning but then i witnessed it myself -- waking > up to a jarring, thumping suppressed bass and those > annoying pseudo-spiritual lyrics (i LOVE madonna, but > this album is not my fave). my boyfriend has nicely > complained and now he just fumes. why would anyone > want to play the same album (NEVER another record, even > another madonna) every single morning? at top vo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:08:35 +0100 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Bruce Henderson On Letterman Tuesday 12/21/99 In what might be an example of good things happening to deserving people during the holiday season, New York based singer/songwriter Bruce Henderson has been asked to be the special musical guest on "The Late Show With David Letterman" next Tuesday, December 21, 1999, on CBS-TV. It seems that Letterman has fallen in love with a song from Bruce Henderson's new CD, "Beyond the Pale," and told his staff to track Henderson down and book him for the show. The song, "I Never Lost An Arm," a twisted love song, just seems to appeal to David Letterman. The unexpected phone call could not have come at a better time, because Bruce Henderson is in between record deals. His new CD, "Beyond the Pale", was released on Omad/Paradigm on August 24, 1999, but the Paradigm record label was shut down in a bitter corporate dispute a few months later. While completing work on "Beyond The Pale," Bruce Henderson discovered that he had testicular cancer. Now cancer free and feeling fit, Henderson is raring to get back to work. Bruce Henderson's "Beyond the Pale" is still available in retail stores and via online music sites, and will be released on a new record label in Spring, 2000. Oklahoma-born Henderson's 1997 solo debut on Omad/Paradigm, "The Wheels Roll," made quite a splash, hitting #11 on the national Gavin Americana chart and receiving high praise from press across the country, including USA Today, No Depression, and Rolling Stone. As film director Robert Altman (Nashville, Short Cuts) wrote, "Bruce Henderson -- this kid's got it. Pound for pound, the best songwriter since Jimmy Webb and Lyle Lovett." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:01:25 +0100 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Plug Of The Week #48 Hi there, For those of you who remember singer/songwriter Laura Allan, you might also remember that her 1st album was produced by a Greg Prestopino..... That very same Prestopino has a great new album out : Greg Prestopino - Big Red Nude ( Ufemizm Records ) With a track record like Greg's, he shouldn't need no introduction, however, on the off-chance that you need to have one, here it goes: Greg's musical career has covered much ground over the years. He has written songs for the likes of Marty Balin, Matthew Wilder, Natalie Cole, Celine Dion and Puff Daddy. He has had the pleasure of playing on albums by Bette Midler, Ry Cooder, Maria Muldaur and Jennifer Warnes among others. The new album features 12 new original songs written by Greg alone, or in collaboration with Andrew Gold (who also produced the album), Matthew Wilder and Bill Labounty. Musicians on the album are Andrew Gold, Mark Jordan, Debra Dobkin, Valerie Carter, Mark Goldenberg, Marc Shulman, Jennifer Condos, Scott Chambers, Kate & Anna McGarrigle, Paul Prestopino and Billy Valentine. Copies of this amazing set of songs are available from : Ufemizm Records 4153 Woodman Avenue Sherman Oaks CA 91423 U.S.A. Phone: 818 - 907 - 6692 Fax: 818 - 789 - 1859 Email: ufemizm@aol.com Website: http://www.ufemizm/com/ Try it - You'll love it ! Take care, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:11:07 -0500 From: waytoblu@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Holidaze B&P Offer Name the third date in which just Rick (from the Band) performed with the Grateful Dead? Here is the correct answer. It was December 31, 1983 in San Francisco. Maria Muldaur and John Cippolina were also guests. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:01:20 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: A mind is a terrible thing to waste - JC now ... Don writes: << Songs we might hear on the album after "Both Sides Now" ... since Joni'll have her chateau paid for: Land Deeds Are The Best Security My Secret Place ... Mine, All Mine Lead Balloon Payment Joni's House/Centerpiece The Cat That Lives In The House I Now Own Free and Clear Free Man in Malibu The Last Time I Saw Mortgage Payments Cold Blue Steel Gates and Sweet Fireplaces Bankers Sing the Blues Sweet Title Dance >> I'll add "Two Paid Rooms" and "Down to Zero", but Joni will have to remember that her house is still not "Tax Free". Then I think about my house and how nice it would be to live in the "Same Situation." Send me $$$$ fellow listers. "Help Me." I keep refinancing every few years - it's all "The Circle Game" Jimmy NP: Joni at the Jazzfest in New Orleans '95 (Thanks Bob) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #300 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. 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