From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #279 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, November 30 1999 Volume 01 : Number 279 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni and Faye ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Today was Joni content day [Jamie Zubairi ] spelling correction [Roman ] Joni-fest Box Set [FMYFL@aol.com] Re:Cup of Sugar from the Zappa's [Julian51469@aol.com] Christmas music - yet another list (SJC) [Anne Sandstrom ] Joni's paintings at LACE in LA [Andy Stancliffe ] Fwd: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA [Wolfebite@aol.com] holes in stockings ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] Re: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA ["Kakki" ] Fwd: Message from JMDL main page [Les Irvin ] singing joni gig (SJC) [Bounced Message ] Re: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA [TerryM2442@aol.com] Re: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA ["Kakki" ] RE: Christmas music - yet another list (SJC) ["Wally Kairuz" Subject: Joni and Faye Hi all I was watching a movie on TV last night - "Albino Alligator" - pretty average on the whole, but I was struck once again by how much Faye Dunaway looks like our Joni - or vice versa, I'm not sure who's the oldest! Has anyone ever noticed/commented on this before, or do I need to get my eyes checked again? Helen NP - silence, ahhhh, blessed silence! _______________________________ "I don't believe in livin' in the middle with available extremes" - Carole King hell@ihug.co.nz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:47:11 -0000 From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Today was Joni content day Dear Folks Having returned from a long (13 hr) flight from Malaysia Saturday, I woke up this morning bright and early (5am) and waited about for the postman for my post. I knew something was going to turn up and it did! The Rock masterclass of DED that Bob Muller sent me arrived! Iwas so happy. Then I had to do things after listening to it. It's great. Then the second post came and lo and behold a strange package turned up for me. It was Joni's Jazz. Amazing. There was no note, I thought I had a mystery Joni Patron. Rob Jordan tendjewberrymud! havent heard it yet as I had to get to work. I'm so KNACKERED! I want my bed! Much Joni from a vbery tired still on Malaysian time Jamie Zubairi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:01:52 +0100 From: Roman Subject: spelling correction Sorry, I know, that should have been Rod STEWART (not Stuart). Gee I should have known that, I used to be a huge Faces fan - Saw Rod twice in concert and sold him a hairdryer for Alana once when I was working in Harrods, London. Tube - ---------- E-mail services powered by Pro.Net. Internet Provider - ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:48:37 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Joni-fest Box Set I received my Joni-fest box set last week (thanks to Kayak Bob), and I enjoyed my 4 day weekend listening to the 4 CDs over and over. I am just blown away by the musical talents of the JMDL. Many of you should have been singing at Joni's Jazz instead of the performers that were scheduled. Thanks to Les, Paz & Chuck E. for making me feel as if I were there at Ashara's gathering. Thanks to all of you who sang and played your hearts out. I can't believe what wonderful voices you have. I plan on being in New Orleans for Memorial Day, but the only way I'll be singing is if they have Joni-fest in one BIG shower or bath tub :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:27:10 EST From: Julian51469@aol.com Subject: Re:Cup of Sugar from the Zappa's In a message dated 11/28/99 3:02:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, The Great and Wonderful Kakki writes: << and here's another Zappa connection - he lived just a few doors down from Joni ;-) >> Thanks for that - "I'm soooo there!" as they say. Julian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:47:44 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Christmas music - yet another list (SJC) Well, after going to the first holiday concert of the season last night, I decided to come up with a list of 10 songs I would like to perform in an 'acoustic' holiday concert. As you can see, I prefere somewhat more obscure songs. here goes... I've enclosed the name of the artist who recorded the song in parentheses 1. A-soalin' (my absolute favorite Christmas song- Peter Paul & Mary) 2. Little Road to Bethlehem (Shawn Colvin) 3. In the Bleak Midwinter (Pierce Pettis) 4. Christmas Bells (John Gorka) 5. River (you know who - but check out Peter White's version too) 6. Lullay Lully (Barbara Higbie - does anyone have the lyrics to this?) 7. Winter Wind (Patty Larkin) 8. First Snow (me) 9. Silent Night, Lonely Night (me) 10. Father Christmas (Emerson, Lake & Palmer) ok, ok, maybe just one "Hallelujiah" chorus for Bob - who is fast turning into the Grinch, tapping his toes and waiting for this merciless season to end ;~) Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:40:06 -0800 From: Louis Lynch Subject: RE: Christmas music - yet another list (SJC) Anne, The Barbara Higbie tune "Lullay Lully" also is called "Coventry Carol." It's in most Christmas collections and is all over the lyric/chord pages of the Internet. If you can't find lyrics, e-mail me privately. In response to your list, having been doing Christmas shows since November 10, I thought I'd add my favorite Christmas carol list for this year, subject to change, of course: 1. Mary Did You Know? (Kathy Mattea) 2. River (Joni) 3. First Noel (Dolly Parton, a lovely, lovely version) 4. The Angel Gabriel (Sting, from A Very Merry Christmas collection) 5. O Come, O Come Emmanuel (David Lanz) 6. Father Christmas (Emerson, Lake and Palmer) 7. Snow (Nightnoise) 8. Santa Claus Is Coming to Town (Cyndi Lauper and Frank Sinatra) 9. Winter Wonderland (Annie Lennox) 10. Santa Baby (Madonna, she boils on this version) 11. Do You Hear What I Hear? (me) George Winston's "Winter Solstice" is still the all-ranking album collection. A-Soalin' would be a favorite, but Peter, Paul & Mary's bad habit of recording centuries-old folk songs and claiming credit for writing them just annoys the hell out of me. I can see copywriting an arrangement or specialized lyrics like most of us folk musicians do, but the "Hey Ho" song is right out of the folk books, and PP&M claim full credit for it. They also claimed writing credits for "All the Pretty Little Ponies" and several other traditional tunes. It would be like one of us recording "River," changing a word or two then claiming we wrote it. Regards, and happy holidays in advance (way in advance, considering), Harper Lou - -----Original Message----- From: Anne Sandstrom [mailto:asandstrom@allaire.com] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 12:48 PM To: 'joni@smoe.org' Subject: Christmas music - yet another list (SJC) Well, after going to the first holiday concert of the season last night, I decided to come up with a list of 10 songs I would like to perform in an 'acoustic' holiday concert. As you can see, I prefere somewhat more obscure songs. here goes... I've enclosed the name of the artist who recorded the song in parentheses 1. A-soalin' (my absolute favorite Christmas song- Peter Paul & Mary) 2. Little Road to Bethlehem (Shawn Colvin) 3. In the Bleak Midwinter (Pierce Pettis) 4. Christmas Bells (John Gorka) 5. River (you know who - but check out Peter White's version too) 6. Lullay Lully (Barbara Higbie - does anyone have the lyrics to this?) 7. Winter Wind (Patty Larkin) 8. First Snow (me) 9. Silent Night, Lonely Night (me) 10. Father Christmas (Emerson, Lake & Palmer) ok, ok, maybe just one "Hallelujiah" chorus for Bob - who is fast turning into the Grinch, tapping his toes and waiting for this merciless season to end ;~) Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:23:32 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Joni Paintings Exhibit in Hollywood! YOWSA! Thanks to Steve Dulson (who emailed Ken and me this a.m. wanting to know if he was dreaming he read this in the L.A. Times yesterday ;-) It's true, it's true - Los Angeles Contemporary Exhibitions (LACE) will we exhibiting 12 of Joni's paintings starting this Wednesday night, December 1st. The exhibit opens at 6:00 p.m. and there will be a reception until 8:00 p.m.which is open to the public. The exhibit continues through December 23rd. The gallery is open Wednesdays through Saturdays, Noon until 6:00 p.m. (This Wednesday will be the only night they are open until 8:00 p.m.) I just spoke to someone at LACE and she said the paintings are "some of her album covers, and some landscapes and stuff." The address is 6522 Hollywood Boulevard, Hollywood, CA. The phone number is (323) 957-1777. Hmmm, this Wednesday evening Graham Nash is doing his annual Christmas concert across the street from me at the Watercourt, but, ahem, I think I may have a conflict in my schedule that night ;-) Kakki NP: Joni live in Philly 1967 - Melody in Your Name (THANKS BOB!!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:03:49 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Andy Stancliffe Subject: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA This might have already been posted, so excuse me if you've already seen, but this news from the LA Weekly might be of interest to JMDLers in the Los Angeles area: TRI-ANNUALE (Part 2): Amy Adler Curates Joni Mitchell, 12 paintings, mostly portraits and landscapes, by the singer/songwriter who’s often done her own album-cover art. Los Angeles Contemporary Exhibitions, 6522 Hollywood Blvd.; Dec. 1-23. Reception Wed., Dec. 1, 6-8 p.m. (323) 957-1777. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:07:09 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: TTT Title I don't remember if this was brought up at the time of TTT's release (heck, I can't even remember what I read in the Times yesterday :) ) but I came across this listing in the bibliography of the book Roadster (a wonderful read if you're a car nut): Rybczynski, Witold, 1983. Taming The Tiger: The Struggle To Control Technology. New York: Penguin Books. A possible source for the title phrase??? ######################################################### Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" http://www.thelivingtradition.org/ (Website under construction!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:23:33 EST From: Wolfebite@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA - --part1_0.48458367.257464f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wow- and old friend of mine is the director of LACE. seems out of the ordinary for their programing- is it a solo show or group show? doug - --part1_0.48458367.257464f5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (rly-zd03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.227]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:05:40 -0500 Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (v65.4) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:05:30 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [24.30.216.55]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA16741; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id RAA23432; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:03:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id RAA23385 for joni-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:02:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ebi.library.ucla.edu (ebi.library.ucla.edu [164.67.42.5]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id RAA23368 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from yrl-s-acq905.library.ucla.edu (host-a4431053.library.ucla.edu [164.67.16.83]) by ebi.library.ucla.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05171 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: Andy Stancliffe To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:03:49 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by smoe.org id RAA23371 Sender: owner-joni@jmdl.com Reply-To: Andy Stancliffe Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by chmls05.mediaone.net id RAA16741 This might have already been posted, so excuse me if you've already=20 seen, but this news from the LA Weekly might be of interest to JMDLers=20 in the Los Angeles area: TRI-ANNUALE (Part 2): Amy Adler Curates Joni Mitchell, 12 paintings, mostly portraits and landscapes, by the singer/songwriter who=92s often done her own album-cover art. Los Angeles Contemporary Exhibitions, 6522 Hollywood Blvd.; Dec. 1-23. Reception Wed., Dec. 1, 6-8 p.m. (323) 957-1777.=20 Andy=20 - --part1_0.48458367.257464f5_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:41:08 -0500 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: holes in stockings Allow me to cast this thought out to the list: Just another "moment of clarity" when yet one more of Joni's lyrics fit into place for me. I had my CD player full of 5 Joni CDs playing in "random mode" and caught "All I want" and "Help Me" one after another. In each song there is a vivid imagery of her wearing ripped stockings and having a good old time. Could this be the same fond memory she likes to recall in these songs or is it commonplace for Joni to dance around with ripped panty hose? - -Jenny n.p. Indigo Girls Shaming of the Sun ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:51:25 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA > wow- and old friend of mine is the director of LACE. seems out of the > ordinary for their programing- is it a solo show or group show? > > doug Doug, Maybe now is a good time for you to pay a visit to your old friend ;-) From my impressions it sounds like it is a solo show. The woman I spoke with on the phone also seemed to be barely containing her excitement about this exhibit and even mentioned that "they are installing the paintings right now!" I imagine this is quite a nice coup for them (and for us!) - to my knowledge Joni has rarely exhibited in L.A. - the few shows I've heard of over the years have been mostly private affairs. Even though I probably saw most, if not all of the paintings at the PWWAM tapings, I would not miss this for the world. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:55:37 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Fwd: Message from JMDL main page Hi Joniphiles - I received this message from the website today. Thought I'd open it up for all to respond to. Thanks, Les NP - Mary Gauthier "Drag Queens in Limousines" >From: "Goldstein Family" >Subject: Message from JMDL main page >Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:08:40 -0500 > >I was wondering if you could help me. I am writing a paper on the >reflection of opinions/concerns of the times in music lyrics. If you could >send me a list of some Joni Mitchell songs which are most reflecrive of >their times I would be very greatful. Thank you very much. > Sincerely, > Michael Goldstein ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:53:12 -0700 From: Bounced Message Subject: singing joni gig (SJC) From: "Takats, Angela" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:39:25 +1100 Hey guys, Thanks so much for your kind emails regarding my first solo performance of joni's detuned songs. I think I did really (except for some obvious fumbling around the fret board) The response from the crowd was wonderful .. especially after BYT (predictable!) I got lots of cheers and comments ... the other guy that was performing has offered to record some of my originals at his studio which is exciting....it's nice when people pay attention to original material! Anyway...I'm definately going to make it something I keep on doing...wish I got paid, or at least a free meal...but just having people sit and listen to me, rather than singing to my bed, is so lovely... Talk to y'all later Ange singing in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:36:39 EST From: TerryM2442@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA In a message dated 11/29/1999 9:52:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, kakkib@att.net writes: << Even though I probably saw most, if not all of the paintings at the PWWAM tapings, I would not miss this for the world. >> Kakki, Do you think Joni will be at the opening? You lucky duck! Terry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:11:26 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni's paintings at LACE in LA > Do you think Joni will be at the opening? You lucky duck! > Terry Terry, I have no idea - somehow, I don't think that she'd show for a public opening - it would be too much to dream if she did! But I want to be there for Les Grande unveiling - it should be special either way. I seem to recall that David Geffen has contributed a big chunk to LACE, along with his other large contributions to the arts in L.A. Does anyone know more about this? It looks like a few of us will be there Wednesday night. Anyone who wants to meet up, please let me know. LACE is conveniently located just down the block from Les Deux Cafes so perhaps we can also stop in for a nightcap afterward ;-) Kakki NP: Night Ride Home - Swedish tribute band - A Bird That Whistles (Excellent!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 04:32:12 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Christmas music - yet another list (SJC) anne, is that the one that goes, "lullay lullay lay lay lullay mi deere moder sing lullay"? this is the old english version. in modern english it goes "lullay, etc, my dear mother sing lullay". if that's the one, i can send you the words. the first stanza satrts, "als i lay on zhoolis nizht alone in my longing". wallyk - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Anne Sandstrom Para: Enviado: Lunes 29 de Noviembre de 1999 14:47 Asunto: Christmas music - yet another list (SJC) > 6. Lullay Lully (Barbara Higbie - does anyone have the lyrics to this?) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #279 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?