From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #274 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, November 25 1999 Volume 01 : Number 274 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Garbarek [FredNow@aol.com] RE: Harvest Moon ["Ross, Les" ] Re: House vents -- Joni banned in Harrisburg [Winfried Huehn ] Re: Child welfare beware [FMYFL@aol.com] RE: Kick Pleat Skirt [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: House vents -- Joni banned in Harrisburg! [Don Rowe ] RE: Tom Rush at McCabe's (SJC) [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Wumb Top 100 ["Catherine McKay" ] Re: Connecting to the Power of Joan ["Catherine McKay" ] A Joni Memory ... [Don Rowe ] Attention Vancouverites ["David Greenspoon" ] Re: Cher, good?? you have got to be joking ["Catherine McKay" ] RE: Harvest Moon ["Catherine McKay" ] Re: Child welfare beware ["Catherine McKay" ] RE: Kick Pleat Skirt ["Catherine McKay" ] Happy Thanks ["Catherine McKay" ] Happy days off!!! [Susan McNamara ] RE: Harvest Moon ["Wally Kairuz" ] Goodbye ... but not forever! [Don Rowe ] Re: Goodbye ... but not forever! [Siresorrow@aol.com] Re: Harvest Moon [Siresorrow@aol.com] Let us be thankful.... [Sue ] Jan Garbarek ["Tony Wyer" ] Heeelllp! Vonda vandalises Joni gem! [AzeemAK@aol.com] win Joni Mitchell stuff! ["Mioi Hanaoka" ] RE: Goodbye ... but not forever! ["Wally Kairuz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 03:30:06 EST From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: Re: Garbarek "Australian Seashells" writes: >There's a perfect, shiny gem of an instrumental by Jan Garbarek & Keith >Jarrett on the album "My Song", called "Country." It's as near perfectly >round and beautiful as I ever heard Yeah, a great tune, great performance. So good I can even forgive that the tune borrows significantly from Elton John's "Your Song." Really, if anyone is a fan of good music, both albums, Belonging and My Song, are really worth owning. After that, the two live albums with the same group (Jarrett, Garbarek, Danielsson, Christensen) -- Nude Ants and Personal Mountains. These four albums alone could nourish one for years on a desert island. - -Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:34:40 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: Harvest Moon Yeah, Pat I was driving home the other evening through the scuttle and dive of east London traffic and the moon was a beacon in a momentarily cloudless sky. I couldn't help but reflect on the last time I saw it like this over the wetlands down by the edge of the North Sea near to where I was raised in Scotland. It seems so long ago. At times like these and at night after school when the tide was at its highest I would walk down there and stand on a wall looking out across the drowning landscape bathed in the cold light of the moon. Along the shore line are very old stone buildings long since abandoned to the elements and now lapped on all sides by the rising oily black water. How much more evocative too, to think of the moon as a Mourning Moon, as Catgirl noted. Definitely pause for directionless thought - well maybe not directionless so much as directed inward. Nice one Later Les (London) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:22:01 +0100 From: Winfried Huehn Subject: Re: House vents -- Joni banned in Harrisburg > << I swear, if I could afford to postpone settlement, I > would find a new title attorney. > > It's the first time I ever heard anyone say "No Joni Mitchell." >> > ROTFL! You should have put in "No Apolgies" and set the CD-player to continuous repeat mode -- "...Lawyers and loan sharks...lawyers and loan sharks...lawyers and loan sharks...lawyers and loan sharks...lawyers and loan sharks...lawyers and loan sharks..." Winfried in Germany, where of course the lawyers are much more (Joni-) tolerant, ahem... well... at least ONE! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:33:18 -0000 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Bj=F6rk_on_Joni_=28a_bit_long=29?= Thanks Mariana for reporting Bjork's comments about Joni. It's very interesting to read that today's ice queen chose Hejira. That album with it's icy modern songs must have been a big influence on Bjork. Philip ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 07:09:37 -0500 From: Sue Subject: Child welfare beware MG, Has your daughter called the child welfare workers yet? When I was going through my JoniHazeCraze before Pittsburgh my daughter threatened to call the FIA (Family Independence Agency) to report me for neglect. Gotta admit, your daughter may be a writer in the future as "N.O. for me, NO for you." is a pretty damn good line! Suze, who is seriously considering how to farm out three 15 year olds in order to possibly attend the bash! All advice on how to do this would be welcome. Summer camp is not an option! Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:53:04 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Child welfare beware Suze writes: << Suze, who is seriously considering how to farm out three 15 year olds in order to possibly attend the bash! All advice on how to do this would be welcome. Summer camp is not an option! >> I guess they wouldn't go for a Junior Joni-fest huh? Maybe a Ricky Martin-fest? Oh heck, I think you could bring your kids and they'd have a blast wandering around Bourbon Street :~) Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:09:51 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: RE: Kick Pleat Skirt Hi MG > Think Catholic school uniform or a cheerleader's skirt and > you have kick > pleats. Instead of the skirt having many smaller pleats, > (knife pleat, I > believe), there are only a few pleats to the whole skirt. > When you walk, your > legs kick out from between the folds. really? I thought a kick pleat skirt was thin and had only one slit/pleat in the back so that you could walk... and hence, Myrtle's disapproval anne > > MG > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 07:13:10 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Re: House vents -- Joni banned in Harrisburg! OH my! Poor Harper Lou ... I feel I just have to quote a little Terrence Mann, from "Field Of Dreams" for you at this point: "BACK! BACK to the sixties! There's no place for you here in the future!" BTW, did the title atty warn you about the part where all your stuff turns to S**T once you buy a house? Tee-hee! Don Rowe ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:11:33 -0600 From: Steve Polifka Subject: Happy Thanksgiving! To all my friends and aquaintences on the JMDL: Have a great Thanksgiving! Thank you Les for this great sight; thank you Catgirl, Rainbow, Jerry, Jimmy for your friendship; thanks to the numerous folks I've traded with; thanks to Kakki, Michael, WallyK for becoming new aquaintences!!! Special thanks to Wally Breese for starting all this! You are in my thoughts often, -one selfless act has brought so many people together in friendship (and conflict) ;-) and has brought so many lives to intertwine across the planet has filled me with awe and wonder. You are a blessing to so many! I hope and pray total healing finds it's way into your life soon! God bess you, for he has blessed me with you- for you love of Joni, and your kindness, all of which I have only experienced indirectly... Have a Happy Thanksgiving, Wally! Peace Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:16:16 -0500 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: RE: Tom Rush at McCabe's (SJC) Hi Kakki. Oh, this echoes of the time I saw Tom Rush play Symphony Hall here in Boston - - eons ago (about 1971?). The set list sounds similar. It was the last evening he and Trevor Veitch played together - well, until recently, I guess... We had amazing seats. The evening transported me in a way almost no other concert ever has. I can't wait til March when he's playing in Marblehead at the Me & Thee... Anne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:19:21 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Wumb Top 100 Colin, says: "I imagine most of the voters were aged hippies who haven;t followed Joni since 75 because they got lost in a fog." And Rick replies: >Okay ,Catman, them's fightin' words! Perhaps the reason that the >older >recordings did better than the newer is that they could >actually be >considered "folk" albums and the station is largely a >"folk" station, >n'est-ce pas? Thanks, Rick, for clearing that up. Without that information (that it's a "folk" station), none of the preceding information made any sense. Imagine - - not just ONE Joni album in the top 100, but 3 or more! It's obviously not 12-year olds listening to WUMB, otherwise we'd be seeing the Backstreet Boys and their various clones holding at least the top ten positions. It doesn't explain the lack of Steeleye Span though. (Any Fairport on there?) I don't know 'bout you, but I hate top 100 lists (or top any other number). Imagine the nerve of those Brits doing it for the entire millenium - that sounds more like something the Yanks would do! How can you possibly distill 1000 years down into 100 songs, especially bearing in mind that we don't even have much information on most music written more than 300 years ago. Add to that, that if you try looking at medieval music with today's ears, it probably sounds totally strange to most people. And has anything that's not based on European background ever made it to one of these? Is there any Chinese music, or anything from India, or any of the world's "indigenous" people (we're all indigenous of something, aren't we? or are we ETs?) ever made it to one of these lists? How many times are you allowed to vote? Who does the voting? Just to give you an example, one of my co-workers entered her dog in an internet "cutest dog" contest sponsored by some pet food company. She asked all of us to vote for her dog so she could win a month's supply of dog food - she has a BIG dog, so this would mean something to her. So, we all went along with it and voted once a day (you were allowed one vote per day although how they would know if you voted more than once is beyond me, since all you had to do was to click onto the picture of her dog.) It was fairly evident to me, from looking at the pictures of all the dogs and the votes they had obtained that my co-worker and one other dog-owner had both done the same thing (asked their friends to vote early, vote often). This was made very evident by the fact that these 2 dogs had hundreds of votes, and the other 20 or so had maybe a maximum of 50. In other words, the rest of them were naive enough to do it the honest way. My co-worker and one other person were using the system to their advantage. And yes, I did vote for her dog, and she did win. But it proves nothing except (maybe) that in most cases, the kind of people who do vote in these things either have no taste, or have a vested interest in seeing *their* favourite win. Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:47:02 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Connecting to the Power of Joan Catherine T, thanks for making my day - your email on learning to play a la Joni was priceless. I particularly liked this: >I knew that I had connected to the power of Joan when, after a >couple of >days of working on Coyote and DJRD, my husband, (whom I've >been trying to >spare too much Joni exposure), yelled at me from the >other room, "I have >a headache! Please stop playing those Joni >colors, I can feel them in my >guts!" (I'm laffin' my guts out over that line! Your husband is much more polite than mine too.) Please post more often. Catherine (in Toronto) (Catherine M or Catherine F depending on whether I'm using the unmarried or married name) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:25:31 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Andy Stancliffe Subject: Shades of Scarlett I realize that the discussion about the demo versions of HOSL is an old topic now, but a kind soul just sent me the Hissing demo CD, and I played it last night. Like everyone else who has posted about it, I was just blown away. When HOSL first came out, I just loved Shades of Scarlett Conquering, and listening to the bare bones piano & vocal was so fascinating. Both Scarlett & the Boho Dance sound like they could fit on For the Roses when played solo on piano. I also love the early version of Dreamland, although I certainly don't want to revisit the discussion about the lyrics ;) The thread about Heard it Through the Grapevine brought back a funny memory. I saw her sing this as an encore at the Universal Amphiteater on the '83 tour. I wasn't surprised to hear her sing a cover, since she had sung Why Do Fools... the last time I had seen her in '79, and I actually enjoyed her performance of Grapevine. I do remember a review of the show, however, which criticized Grapevine, by saying something along the lines of "Joni Mitchell has a great soul, but not that kind of soul," which made me laugh (although of course I don't agree) Andy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:47:43 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: A Joni Memory ... During an extended, and I shamefully admit, liquid lunch this afternoon -- I was reminded of a specific Joni moment of my life ... and thought I'd share it with all you good folk. Set your wayback machines for 1982 ... where we find a younger Don/Larry/Chris fresh from a spat with his then significant other, Wendi (with an "i", of course) Rottweiler ... for whom I still maintain The Boss penned 'Born to Run'. Storming back to his dormroom, he cranks up his grandfather's Haeffler 255W amp and begins to drown the cacophany of the quad in 'Shades of Scarlet Conquering'. The release and relief of that moment remains palpalbe to this day. Don Rowe ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:21:41 PST From: "David Greenspoon" Subject: Attention Vancouverites I dont know if this has been mentioned already but CISL 650 in vancouver is holding a poll for the greatest artist of the century so call up 280-0650 to vote for whoever you think is the greatest artist (JONI) Yours David I'm travelling in some vehicle Im sitting in some dark cafe a defector from the petty wars that shell shock love away. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:23:51 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Cher, good?? you have got to be joking Tony says: >We may all have foibles in our record collection, I certainly have a >few......Cecil Taylor's ,'Conquistador' springs to mind, but Cher, >well >frankly no. >Every Joni fan I have met has always had a degree of musical taste, >so I >can not get my head around the idea of someone having a Cher >record >alongside one of hers. >Its like having say, James Joyce's Ulysses on the shelf next to a >Jeffery >Archer book (UK joke), all right then, a Harold Robbins >book. The two >don,t mix! As a matter of fact, I enjoy reading crap novels sometimes. Mindless escapism isn't always a bad thing. It's like saying that someone with gourmet tastes *can't* enjoy a good junk food binge every now and then. In fact, I have heard some people *claim* they would *never* eat at McDonald's but, IMO, they're either lying, they don't have kids, or they're snobs. Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:23:59 -0500 From: Julie Webb Subject: My Paprika Thanksgivings Jmdlers, I posted the following back in November of 97 and thought Id share it with those of you who are new to the jmdl: Hey Jonihiles, I just got done carrying all of the holiday groceries into the house. Unpacking food is typically never fun, UNLESS you take 'Don Juan's Reckless Daughter' for a spin---nice and loud. (You see, we've got additional speakers wired in the kitchen to help us escape from the monotony of kitchen duties.) As Im putting away the sweet potatoes, cranberries and store-bought pumpkin pie, I remember that I left the fresh turkey in our unattached garage out back. I schlep outside to the garage to retrieve this 10 pound bird. While in the backyard, I stop and listen. I hear the faint sounds of "Paprika Plains" floating through our naked cherry tree and down to the little hills and valleys of gold and burnt orange---autumn leaves heaped in piles on the ground. Once inside I think about the Indian lyrics of "Paprika Plains." I look over at my daugher putting away the apples and I realize at the age of nine, she has a "Thanksgiving" concept of Indians, and that "Paprika Plains," tells the other story about the American Indians she'll one day study.. I've decided to play DJRD for background music during tomorrow's Thanksgiving celebration It seems appropiate don't you think? Happy Thanksgiving, Julie Z. Webb, DJ'sFD "When I was three feet tallAnd wide eyed open to it allWith their tasseled teams they came To McGee's General StoreAll in their beaded leathersI would tie on colored feathers And I'd beat the drum like war ...I would beat the drum like war'd beat the drum I'd beat the drum like warBut when the church got throughThey traded their beads for bottles Smashed--on Railway AvenueAnd they cut off their braidsAnd lost some link with nature I'm floating into dreamsI'm floating offI'm floating into my dreamsI dream paprika plains The moon clock wanes and waxes--But here all time is stripped awayNowhere on these plains Is a sprout or an egg in evidenceTo measure loss or gain ...Only a little Indian band Come down from some windy mesaNo women to make them food and childNo expressions on their facesFlaps their woven blanketsAnd flags their raven braidsHow came they to this emptiness? How came they to this dream?How came I to this viewOf earth and air and water And a band of Indian menWithout herds or flocks or cropsOr families or fires to tend? Like a phoenix up from ashes nowA blanket figure springsWith a fist raised up to turquoise skies Like libertyAnd at the point of vanishingWhere the sky and the earth meet A bomb bloomsDeadly mushroomWhiteGoldHeatLike a phoenix up from ashes Up from violent mysteriesAnd slash the globe to seeBelow me--Vast Paprika plains And the snake the river tracesAnd a little band of Indian menWith no expressions on their faces" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:43:01 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: RE: Harvest Moon On the topic of harvest/mourning moons, Les says: >I was driving home the other evening through the scuttle and dive of >east >London traffic and the moon was a beacon in a momentarily >cloudless sky. I >couldn't help but reflect on the last time I saw it >like this over the >wetlands down by the edge of the North Sea near >to where I was raised in >Scotland. We had a lovely big orange moon last night and one of my kids asked if they could see the same moon in other parts of the world. She specifically mentioned Africa, which is one of her faves right now. I told her they'd have a full moon everywhere in the world (whenever their night-time came) but I didn't know whether or not it would look the same (big and orange.) I always thought that was due to local air pollution. Until I read it here, I never realized that if I saw a "harvest moon" here, people all around the world would see it that way too. You learn something every day - I'll be sure to let Sarah know that this same moon was seen in the UK, in the southern US - maybe even in Africa! Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:57:29 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Child welfare beware >Suze, who is seriously considering how to farm out three 15 year >olds in >order to possibly attend the bash! All advice on how to do >this would be >welcome. Summer camp is not an option! >> I'm not worried about my kids. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with a husband? I mean like, can you board them somewhere? I can't think of anyone who would want mine... Take my husband - please! Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:02:50 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: RE: Kick Pleat Skirt Kick pleats. MG says: > > Think Catholic school uniform or a cheerleader's skirt and > > you have kick > > pleats. Instead of the skirt having many smaller pleats, > > (knife pleat, I > > believe), there are only a few pleats to the whole skirt. > > When you walk, your > > legs kick out from between the folds. And Anne replies: >really? I thought a kick pleat skirt was thin and had only one >slit/pleat >in the back so that you could walk... and hence, Myrtle's >disapproval What Anne says is what I thought it was too. It's a pleat/slit on a tighter skirt, which would allow your legs greater mobility to move (kick). Otherwise you'd be taking teeny weeny little steps because the tightness of the skirt would inhibit your legs' mobility. It's the type of skirt that these days you'd see yuppy businesswomen wearing in a business suit. I remember my Catholic school days. We'd always roll the skirts way the heck up to turn them into mini skirts because they were always too long. I work right across the street from a Catholic girls' school and, 30 years later, they're still doing that. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme old chose. > >anne > > > > > MG > > Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:05:59 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Happy Thanks Happy Thanksgiving, all you Americanos and Americanas! Happy regular workweek/2-day weekend, all the rest of us! Catherine (in Toronto) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:12:14 -0500 From: Susan McNamara Subject: Happy days off!!! I just wanted to wish the list, especially our dear WallyB, our listmeister Les and the stellar guitar crew: Marian, Howard and Mark, a wonderful wonderful holiday. I have four days off--now all I need are new strings!! :-) You all make my life lighter and this past two weeks I've had a lot of belly laughs reading the fantasy Joni visits and the stories of Jonifests. Thanks to all. If I can get at the webtv sometime this weekend I'll check on the chat. Take care, Sue The lines that are stuck in my head today are not from Joni, alas, but from another genius of a Canadian, Bruce Cockburn: Across the concrete fields of man Sun ray like a camera pans Some will run and some will stand Everything is bullshit but the open hand And you've been leading me Beside strange waters Streams of beautiful lights in the sky But where is my pasture land In these dark valleys And if I loose my grip ... will I take flight .... Strange Waters, Charity of Night ____________________ /____________________\ ||-------------------|| || Sue McNamara || || sem8@cornell.edu || ||___________________|| || O etch-a-sketch O || \___________________/ "It's all a dream she has awake" - Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:34:04 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Harvest Moon les, your post was so evocative! the moon on the 23rd/24th was the full moon in Sagittarius, the moon of fecundity, the fairy godmother and the spouse of jupiter. the next full moon will be very powerful because it will coincide almost to a minute with the winter solstice [up there in the north, that is]. it will be the full moon in capricorn, the barren moon, the high priestess, the hag [no, jimmy, not that hag]. time to take stock on the fruits of your harvest and learn the lessons of old age. time also to have a ball under the quilt on long winter nights! hey! wallyk > I > couldn't help but reflect on the last time I saw it like this over the > wetlands down by the edge of the North Sea near to where I was raised in > Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:41:31 -0800 (PST) From: Don Rowe Subject: Goodbye ... but not forever! I'm signing off temporarily, as I will be on vacation starting in about T-minus 30 minutes or so ... until December 6th -- when I promise to return to you as jocund as ever! If you're wondering what I'm doing, or even if you're not -- I'll be watching in abject horror as my townhouse is being remodeled. But hey, it beats work ... I think. So here is a happy and hearty "GOOD BIRD" to my jmdl family -- I shall be thinking of you -- and Patti ... sorry I won't be in Big D for our meet-n-greet at the Stonleigh P! Perhaps another time soon ... Joni rocks (or rather, sways) -- had to say that to avoid the NJC thing! Don Rowe, Larry Klein, Chris Gaines and Co. :-) ===== "I would not bet against the development of a time machine. My opponent may have already built one ... and know the future." -- Stephen Hawking __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:48:31 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Goodbye ... but not forever! good bye don dude. much turkey. pat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:56:18 EST From: Siresorrow@aol.com Subject: Re: Harvest Moon In a message dated 11/24/99 4:37:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, wallykai@interserver.com.ar writes: << les, your post was so evocative! the moon on the 23rd/24th was the full moon in Sagittarius, the moon of fecundity, the fairy godmother and the spouse of jupiter. >> les' post was very nice. it reminded me that we don't have the age of buildings in the us that the rest of the world has: castles, stone walls, neat things like that. and fecundity is a very cool word that you don't hear every day. pat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:31:24 -0500 From: Sue Subject: Let us be thankful.... I AM THANKFUL... ...for the taxes that I pay because it means that I am employed. ...for the mess to clean after a party because it means I have been surrounded by friends. ...for the clothes that fit a little too snug because it means I have enough to eat. ...for my shadow who watches me work because it means I am out in the sunshine. ...for a lawn that needs mowing, windows that need cleaning and gutters that need fixing because it means I have a home. ...for all the complaining I hear about government because it means we have freedom of speech. ...for the spot I find at the far end of the parking lot because it means I am capable of walking. ...for my huge heating bill because it means I am warm. ...for the lady behind me in church who sings off key because it means that I can hear. ...for the piles of laundry and ironing because it means I have clothes to wear. ...for weariness and aching muscles at the end of the day because it means I have been productive. ...for the alarm that goes off in the early morning hours because it means that I am alive. ...for getting too much e-mail because it lets me know I have friends who are thinking of me! ...for having to wait until next year for the new Joni CD because at least there will be one! HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL THOSE WHO CELEBRATE!!! Sue Cameron (Suze) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:47:32 -0000 From: "Tony Wyer" Subject: Jan Garbarek Garbarek, now we are talking. This man is class, but so also is his record label, ECM, and its producer/main man, Manfred Eicher, and so is their recording studio....Rainbow Studio, Oslo. Have always held the view that Larry Klein wrecked Joni's career . She should have turned to the likes of Manfred Eicher and used Garbarek's group consisting of JG, Rainer Bruninghaus (piano), Eberhard Weber (bass), Nana Vasconcelos (percussion) to show again how it can be done. Check out also:- 'Personal Mountains' by Keith Jarrett with JG in backing group,(listen out for KJ's "wow" after a particularly fine JG solo. 'Dis' by JG with Ralph Towner on acoustic guitars. You can even hear Benny Goodman playing through the pinewood trees on this one. (use of windharp helps). 'Folk Songs' by JG, Charlie Haden (bass) and Egberto Gismonti (guitars). 'I Took Up The Runes' by JG Group. And for those interested in the Hilliard Ensemble, check out their "Passio" by Arvo Part on ECM and produced by ME, as are the JG with HE two collaborations. Pat Metheny/Lyle Mays had a productive period on ECM and Keith Jarrett is also on ECM...check out his 'Koln Concert', probably the finest live and living solo piano concert you are ever likely to hear. Try WWW.ecmrecords.com for more details, but their prices are expensive. Appols for attributing Ghetto of My Mind to Ricki Lee Jones 'Pirates'lp, of course it was Flying Cowboys. regards Tony Tony's Rough Guide to Skiing La Plagne http://www.wyer.force9.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:28:41 EST From: AzeemAK@aol.com Subject: Heeelllp! Vonda vandalises Joni gem! We in the UK have only just got to the episode of Ally McBeal where our friend Vonda warbles and squawks her way through Both Sides Now. Altogether now: Oi, Sheppard, Noooo!! Sorry Vonda fans, she may be the loveliest person currently walking the earth, but enough is enough. Must we throw this slush at our pop kids?? Azeem in London ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:59:48 -0800 From: "Mioi Hanaoka" Subject: win Joni Mitchell stuff! Hey, how are you doing? This is Mioi from Ink Blot Magazine. Do you have Joni Mitchell's "1999 vinyl reissue of Blue" yet? If you don't own it yet, and for your chance to win this great album, go to this URL: http://www.inkblotmagazine.com/jonimitchell_registration.htm good luck! ~mioi Mioi Hanaoka Ink Blot Magazine T 415.934.6800 F 415.934.6805 E mioi@inkblotmagazine.com http://www.inkblotmagazine.com Please sign up for our "Inkling" free newsletter: http://ls.big-shot.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?join=inkblotmagazine&return=http://w ww.inkblotmagazine.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:31:56 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Goodbye ... but not forever! bye bye don! we'll miss your multiple personalities so very much!!! wallyk - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: Don Rowe Para: Enviado: Miércoles 24 de Noviembre de 1999 18:41 Asunto: Goodbye ... but not forever! > I'm signing off temporarily, ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:14:58 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: A Joni Memory ... In a message dated 11/24/1999 2:50:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, dgrowe227@yahoo.com writes: << Set your wayback machines for 1982 ... where we find a younger Don/Larry/Chris fresh from a spat with his then significant other, Wendi (with an "i", of course) Rottweiler ... for whom I still maintain The Boss penned 'Born to Run'. Storming back to his dormroom, he cranks up his grandfather's Haeffler 255W amp and begins to drown the cacophany of the quad in 'Shades of Scarlet Conquering'. The release and relief of that moment remains palpalbe to this day. Don Rowe >> Great imagery!!! Thanks! Catgirl.... getting ready to go on the town for a few at the open mike!! YIKES!!! No worries no Joni they are too rowdy to appreciate the finer things in life like her music!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:12:51 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: HAPPY THANKSGIVING! - --part1_0.4d61cbd7.256e0333_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a veg but I thought this was very crafty!! I am having tofurkey for dinner tommorow with all the fixin's and NO MEAT!! Happy thanksgiving everyone!! I am very thankful for all my new friends!! I love you all dearly!!! 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