From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #256 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, November 7 1999 Volume 01 : Number 256 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Rachmaninoff ["Eric Taylor" ] 10 out of 10 + a Gold Star ["Paul Castle" ] Delurking ["Kakki" ] Re: My Dinner with Joni [Julian51469@aol.com] Re: Delurking [Jason Maloney ] Re: My Dinner with Joni [Jason Maloney ] Re: My Dinner with Joni [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Okay okay! I'll stop lurking now! [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: racial slurs and DJRD [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Thanksgiving rev. ["Mark or Travis" ] Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD ["Russell Bowden" ] Re: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD ["Kakki" ] Re:Slurs, DRJD (final thoughts) [dsk ] Jennifer Kimball (VLJC) [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Re:Slurs, DRJD (final thoughts) ["Kakki" ] Re: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: JM screensaver 2nd edition now available [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Slurs, DRJD (final thoughts) [catman ] Re: Slurs, DRJD (final thoughts) [catman ] Re: Thanksgiving rev./&DJRD [Drewdix@aol.com] DJRD [Emily Kirk Gray ] re:rachmaninoff ["Takats, Angela" ] Re: Thanksgiving rev./&DJRD [Brian Gross ] Finding DJRD [dsk ] Re: rachmaninoff paintings [dsk ] THE DAY HAS COME!!!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: THE DAY HAS COME!!!! [Linda Worster ] My Best To You! [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: DJRD [dsk ] Re: My Best To You! [FMYFL@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 04:32:18 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Rachmaninoff Ange in Sydney asks: << ...does anyone know which Rachmaninof piece Joni says inspired her to get into music when she was younger?? >> Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini. This has remained my most beloved classical piece since I was 19 & only recently I learned how much it impacted the young Joni. I've read that it's inspired countless pop songs & I even wrote lyrics to a particularly moving refrain myself (which I entitled Rock's Rhapsody). I've heard dozens of renditions & highly recommend Leonard Bernstein's interpretation! La la la la la, la-la-la-la-la.... E.T. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:22:55 -0500 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: 10 out of 10 + a Gold Star Andy Stancliffe astancli@library.ucla.edu wrote (brilliantly) >So many times I've thought I should get off the list, >since I don't find time to participate, but I've never >been able to bring myself to sign off. What I like about the JMDL is the amazingly high standard of 'lurker' it not only attracts, but also seems to retain. For what you are about to post May the JMDL be truly thankful. PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 02:43:06 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Delurking Andy delurked: >I've been lurking on this list for a few years now. I began >reading the digests not long after the list was created. I actually >did send in a post now and then (usually to defend a song that was >being criticized, like Ray's Dad's Cadillac or You Turn Me On, I'm a >Radio). What a great post! I also remember your name, Andy. Where have you been?! You are in L.A., you work at my alma mater and look at all there is in common with your local tribemembers - >I've been a fan of Joni's music since 1972, when I was 18. Same age as sister Kakki. >I attended the Stormy Weather benefit last year, and enjoyed seeing her perform with an orchestra >(and with Bjork). Kinsman Ken and I were there. >For so many years I would pore over Rolling Stone, or the LA Times Calendar or Musician >magazine hoping to see some little tidbit to find out what Joni was up >to. Uh, huh, same here, yep. >I have a box in my closet with old magazines and clippings going back to 1972, beginning with the >issue of Rolling Stone (with honeymooners James and Carly on the cover) >containing the review of For the Roses. So does Brother Dulson. Andy - I feel like we've found our fourth missing "Beatle" or something - when are you going to party with us and the rest of the SoCal-ers? ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 09:32:37 EST From: Julian51469@aol.com Subject: Re: My Dinner with Joni Hey there Don, A fantastic post! I love it! I'm a huge Firesign Theatre fan and radio theater in general has always been the zillion dollar movie for my head. Have you ever given thoughts to making a full length "My Dinner with Joni"? One could include all of the millenium 6 degrees stuff, the strange and twisted album and song titles, the JMDLer's meet and greet excitement, Joni mythology and inuendo, etc, etc. I wouldn't mind tossing some ideas around with you privately concerning scripts, recordings, mastering, advertising and hype, world domination - you know, the usual trains of thought;-) If anyone else out there is intersted in throwing in their "two cents worth" to fund this hair-brained notion...I'd love to hear. 4eva' Julian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 15:29:29 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: Delurking Hi Andy, Like many others who've replied, I am glad you decided to de-lurk. This paragraph I've quoted from your post sums up pretty much exactly how I feel about the JMDL myself : > I've been so impressed with the > intelligence, sensitivity, understanding, and humor that all you > 'regulars' display in your postings. I feel that I know many of you, > and have so much respect for you. This list has moved me to tears, has > sometimes made me angry, has made me question my own assumptions and > has enriched my life. So many times I've thought I should get off the > list, since I don't find time to participate, but I've never been able > to bring myself to sign off. When the option to switch to "Joni Only" > mode became available, I thought for a few days about switching, but I > realized I'd miss so much of the fascinating discussions about current > events. I rely on the JMDLers to weigh in on their favorite musicians, > on their reactions to headlines in the news, etc. Amen to that. I get frustrated come JoniFest time, when I can't be actively involved and spend time with many of you. I have to comfort myself with the pics and the reports. "One day.." I keep telling myself, "one day..." :-) > So anyway, I would like to say thank you to all of you, including Mark > in Seattle, Kakki, Sue Mc, Colin, Ashara, Rickie Lee, Michael (all the > Michaels), Kate, Evian, Jimmy, Helen, Eric, Bob, MG, Deb, Jerry, Jason, > Scott, Catherine, Paul, Catgirl, Marcel (and you know there may be lots > more) for enriching my life through your willingness to share your > thoughts and feelings. Well, the good folks who post on here do so with such warmth, grace and style that it tends to have that effect :-) Hey, you forgot to mention Don! Hope he isn't too devastated....or there will be gloopy electronic hell to pay! LOL Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 15:42:06 +0000 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: My Dinner with Joni Julian and Don, Guys, this is a fabulous idea! I've been loving each installation of Don's Dinner With Joni spoof, and wishing there was more :-) The potential in this "hair-brained idea" (as if!!!!) is enormous. I hope it catches on. Jason. Julian51469@aol.com wrote: > Hey there Don, > > A fantastic post! I love it! I'm a huge Firesign Theatre fan and radio > theater in general has always been the zillion dollar movie for my head. > Have you ever given thoughts to making a full length "My Dinner with Joni"? > One could include all of the millenium 6 degrees stuff, the strange and > twisted album and song titles, the JMDLer's meet and greet excitement, Joni > mythology and inuendo, etc, etc. I wouldn't mind tossing some ideas around > with you privately concerning scripts, recordings, mastering, advertising and > hype, world domination - you know, the usual trains of thought;-) If anyone > else out there is intersted in throwing in their "two cents worth" to fund > this hair-brained notion...I'd love to hear. > > 4eva' > Julian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:10:57 EST From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: My Dinner with Joni In a message dated 11/6/99 9:35:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, Julian51469@aol.com writes: << I wouldn't mind tossing some ideas around with you privately concerning scripts, recordings, mastering, advertising and hype, world domination >> But which one of you would be Pinky and which one the Brain? (Antelope Freeway 1/2 mile...) Paul I NR: The back of my office door -- REGNAD KCIN OH, and hold the anchovies. (Antelope Freeway 1/4 mile...) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:49:07 EST From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Okay okay! I'll stop lurking now! In a message dated 11/4/1999 12:16:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, polifkas@milwaukee.tec.wi.us writes: << My 1st CD single was released about 2 months ago- this is for all the other songwriting JMDLer's out there, so I want to share some lyrics… Maybe see you in N'awlins? Talk to me! Steve >> WELL, It's about time you came out of lurkdoms Steve!!! Yea!!! Thanks for sharing your wonderful Joni story with us and I look forward to hearing more from you. Hugs! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:38:25 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: racial slurs and DJRD In a message dated 11/6/99 12:03:06 AM US Central Standard Time, evian@sk.sympatico.ca writes: << Rather, it's used as a good device to make you think "whoa, where is this coming from, and what do we do with it?", which it obviously has! Anyway, does that make any sense? >> It makes a TON of sense, and it's a good way to summarize the whole discussion. It also adds further proof that Joni is so far ahead of the rest of Pop Culture... Bob NP: Santana, "Wishing it Was"...another one for my Top Ten list...hell, I may need 20 slots for my top ten this year! :~) It also shickles the tit outta me that this record has been the #1 CD for the past couple weeks, even if kids are buying it for the Rob Thomas (Matchbox 20) tune...gee, maybe Joni needs to make a DED2 with some off-the-wall duets! :~D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:16:59 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Thanksgiving rev. > I've been away from the list for months, and I'll just confine my posts to > Joni, when I have something constructive to say! > --Drew No need to be that extreme, Drew! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 10:26:18 PST From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD For Ange and everyone who's interested. I believe that piece is Variations on a Theme of Paganini. (24th variation, I believe) It was used heavily in the film "Somewhere in Time" with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour. Many films have used it since the '30's. It has been played with full (REALLY full) orchestra as well as solo piano. Absolutely, gushingly beautiful. The whole slur discussion has left me somewhat bemused, I think our Queen was simply (?!) PWWAM. Was she supposed to sing 'a black person and a white person conversing over a container of liquid?? BOR-ing and kinda stupid, maybe?? It seems to me that when the Goddess wants to let someone have it between the eyes, she aims with stinging accuracy. (Lawyers, loan sharks, snake bite evangelists, Madison Ave, governments of anywhere, etc.) Otis and Marlena are just a couple of folks arriving in Miami (God's waiting room?) They dream of golden beauty...(face lifts, minks, television, nails) staving off the end of old age as the rest of the world goes to hell. (Yes, I remember the incident where some Muslims were raising a big ruckus in DC.around '75. DRJD is definitely one of my top # 3 JM recordings...and had held #1 spot for many years (with Hejira) I have listened to this one more than any other one and am still amazed by it and thankful it exists. I submit this with love and respect to the listers. Love, Russ NPIMH: DRJD the whole thing!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:01:51 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD Russ wrote: > The whole slur discussion has left me somewhat bemused, I think our Queen > was simply (?!) PWWAM. "Painting with words and music" is the same thought that came to me yesterday. > DJRD is definitely one of my top # 3 JM recordings...and had held #1 spot > for many years (with Hejira) I have listened to this one more than any > other one and am still amazed by it and thankful it exists. It is also in my top three, but it holds my No. 1 spot for the most brilliant of her works to date, both musically and lyrically. I have also played it endlessly all these years and still am in total awe of it each time. The album is so deep in me that it has been really difficult to articulate my thoughts during the "slur" discussion. Any concept of real slurs being present in this masterpiece is just too much cognizant dissonance for me to process. Kakki NP: Paprika Plains ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 16:29:20 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re:Slurs, DRJD (final thoughts) Russell Bowden wrote: > The whole slur discussion has left me somewhat bemused, I think our Queen > was simply (?!) PWWAM. Was she supposed to sing 'a black person and a white > person conversing over a container of liquid?? BOR-ing and kinda stupid, > maybe?? That wouldn't be in character for Joni any more than spewing racial hatred would be. BUT, using a term that's like a spit in the face to a very large group of people, NOT because of what they're DOING (lawyering, loan sharking, evangelizing, selling, legislating; all forms of "wheeling and dealing"), but ONLY BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE, is insensitive and distasteful. Even after reading all the explanations and dismissals and "this isn't importants" said in various ways, I still don't understand how Joni could write this. The word wizard she is could have come up with something else if she'd felt it was important to do so. For a fuller experience in being a black man, I suggest she disguise herself again and try to get a cab to stop for her in New York City or get waited on in a store before white person me does. I've often seen what happens; maybe she hasn't. In saying this, I am NOT calling Joni a racist, which is how some people have taken this discussion. I've never been a fan who believes Joni does everything perfectly and has no flaws. She's extraordinary for sure, but still very human, limited to her particular experience with occasional lapses in judgment. So am I. Human, limited and lapsed me is who she speaks to. I just looked again at the end of the PWWAM video where she's sitting with friends singing Dreamland. She skips over the verse with Tar Baby in it and goes directly from verse 1 to "in a plane flying back to winter..." with a "D r e a ea eam on" in between. I take that as a sign that she also has rethought this issue we've been discussing. That is what I'd expect of her. That's all my at-the-moment-crabby self has to say on this subject. I get annoyed when very complex subjects are turned off or reduced to something simple so it can be dismissed. In life, this discussion is a never-ending thread. And now my crabby cranky critical imperfect self really will give it a rest, on this list anyway. Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:03:35 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Jennifer Kimball (VLJC) Howdy all! Delurking today (yeah right), but I am definitely not going to post tomorrow so all 500 lurkers can post. I'm saying Happy Birthday Joni in advance. Joni, if you're reading this I want you to know you look Great for 56 or any age for that matter. I had that yacht shipped to you last week, so I hope you're home to sign for it :-{) I'm also posting to mention Jennifer Kimball from The Story. I never did buy a Story's CD, but I do like Jonatha Brooke. This morning in our local paper I read in the entertainment section that she'll be performing at a very small small coffee house here in Ft. Myers. I can't believe that I hadn't heard about it earlier, but that's our newspaper for ya. She has two shows tonight, and the first show is already sold out which isn't difficult since only about 40 people can fit. So I'm heading down to the coffee house in a few minutes to see if tickets ($7.) are available for the second show. I know nothing about her, but the article compares her to Shawn and Joni. We'll see. I'll let you know how the show went (if I get to go). Have a great weekend everyone! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:40:49 -0800 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Re:Slurs, DRJD (final thoughts) Debra wrote: > That wouldn't be in character for Joni any more than spewing racial hatred > would be. BUT, using a term that's like a spit in the face to a very large > group of people, NOT because of what they're DOING (lawyering, loan sharking, > evangelizing, selling, legislating; all forms of "wheeling and dealing"), but > ONLY BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE, is insensitive and distasteful. Even after > reading all the explanations and dismissals and "this isn't importants" said in > various ways, I still don't understand how Joni could write this. The word > wizard she is could have come up with something else if she'd felt it was > important to do so. I think it's just a matter of honest differences in interpretation for those who have felt compelled to "explain" it, like myself. I have *truly* always thought Joni was deliberately and intentionally pricking racists and racisim in this album. After living with that belief for 20+ years, it is difficult to now consider whether she actually did the opposite - that she callously, thoughtlessly and irresponsibly used racial slurs in this album. > For a fuller experience in being a black man, I suggest she disguise herself > again and try to get a cab to stop for her in New York City or get waited on in > a store before white person me does. I've often seen what happens; maybe she > hasn't. I just finished reading an article in the week's People magazine about this happening repeatedly to actor Danny Glover in New York City. I was astonished. He is quoted as saying that he cannot beleive this is still happening at the end of the 21st century. Neither can I. He plans to file a complaint. As for Joni dressing up as a black man, some may think she is appropriating an identity of something that does not belong to her. Others may she is again attempting the prick the consciouness of people and think it is courageous. It depends on individual interpretation and perception. > In saying this, I am NOT calling Joni a racist, which is how some people have > taken this discussion. It seemed to me that there were a few posts that, while not calling her a racist, strongly implied that she should be lumped in with them for using the offensive terminology, irregardless of her context or intention. That troubled me - it's somehow very Orwellian. > That's all my at-the-moment-crabby self has to say on this subject. I get > annoyed when very complex subjects are turned off or reduced to something > simple so it can be dismissed. I agree with you here, Debra. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:06:19 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD From the first time I heard it, I have assumed that the title characters in OTIS AND MARLENA were a pimp and his hooker, checking in preparatory to working the expensive hotel. I imagine that Joni Mitchell saw a newspaper headline about Muslims "sticking up" WashingTUNN and shortly before or after saw a young man and woman unloading a car in front of a hotel whose other guests were all quite old. Or..she didn't see it, but someone told her about it. She reflected (I continue to imagine) that O & M, on one hand, and their prospective clientele, seeking relaxation and cosmetic beautification, on the other, were both--depending on your point of view--either corrupt or just making it through the day. She reflected (I continue to imagine) that O & M, on one hand, and their prospective clientele, on the other, were equally disengaged from the serious effort at social change (through tactics perhaps questionable) symbolized by the Muslims. Typically elusive/allusive lyric by The Master. DAVID LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:08:03 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD Kakki, you are so right about DJRD being the most brilliant. D LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:33:44 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Rachmaninoff, Slurs, DRJD Russell Said: << DRJD is definitely one of my top # 3 JM recordings...and had held #1 spot for many years (with Hejira) I have listened to this one more than any other one and am still amazed by it and thankful it exists. >> I noticed today at the record store that they're now offering all their Joni's in HDCD. Is there a significant difference in the HDCD version sound-wise? My CD player is NOT an HDCD player, but I bought S&L in HDCD and wow, it really jumps out at ya'. I'm thinking of upgrading my reular Joni CD's to HDCD and donating my old ones to the library... Bob NP: The Allman Bros., "Mountain Jam" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:43:08 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: JM screensaver 2nd edition now available Wow! This screensaver is REALLY nice...it changes to about 12 different pictures, album covers, paintings, photos, job well done, my friend! I give it a hearty 2 thumbs up! Even my wife, after rolling her eyes, had to admit that it was very nice. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:33:55 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Slurs, DRJD (final thoughts) > She skips over the verse with Tar Baby in it and > goes directly from verse 1 to "in a plane flying back to winter..." with a "D r > e a ea eam on" in between. I take that as a sign that she also has rethought > this issue we've been discussing. That sounds very possible debra. I also agree that it is not possible, no matter how compassionate or liberal one thinks one is, to truly understand life from anothers perspective.We each live in different worlds. the mistake is in thinking we all sahre a common reality. We don't and never will. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:33:45 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Slurs, DRJD (final thoughts) > > > I just finished reading an article in the week's People magazine about this > happening repeatedly to actor Danny Glover in New York City. I was > astonished. He is quoted as saying that he cannot beleive this is still > happening at the end of the 21st century. Neither can I. He plans to file > a complaint. NOT referring to Danny here but this made me wonder if it is true that what 'we give out, we get back'.I find it so disheartening to see/ hear one oppressed group doing exactly the same thing to another. Maybe until we ALL stand against ALL oppression it will stop. Till then, it will continue and we all will continue to be hurt. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:43:38 EST From: Drewdix@aol.com Subject: Re: Thanksgiving rev./&DJRD <> Thanks Mark- I have taken foot out of mouth. BTW, I am looking for DJRD on CD, and don't have much experience with ordering records other than through the mainstream. Where the heck can I get it? (Virgin, Tower, no go, even here in the NY area) - --Drew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: Emily Kirk Gray Subject: DJRD hi everyone i listened to DJRD three times this evening, prompted by reading so many intriguing posts about its language. and i was struck by a number of things. first is that this album has never been a favorite one of joni's for me -- i'm still figuring out how to listen to it. but i'm growing into a new kind of appreciation for its difficulties. i do love that joni mitchell's music is complicated, challenging -- not "easy" although certainly some of it slips so quickly and thoroughly into my consciousness and body rhythms. i think that since i am a writer i try to understand her music (and other artists i admire) through other models, literary specifically. DJRD seems to me (tonight, anyway) a step away from the more interior, turned-inside albums (at least previous to this) and that it's more of a "thinking" text -- a piece of work that shows a mind working on other, outside questions (including race and nationality). i find myself looking to other writers' careers for a context to put this into. i can't find quite the analogue, but i'm thinking something along the lines of virginia woolf's last novel "between the acts" -- which is choppy and pieced and driving at fundamental questions of art making life; the nature of representing history; the relationships that structure knowledge. it's a novel that is a decided shift from her much more interior work like "mrs. dalloway" or of course "to the lighthouse." something about the texture and layers and different sounds and stories of DJRD remind me of this novel. also by the fact that for me both are hard to love, hard to know -- but beyond worthy of careful attention. do others look to different models to think about joni's body of work? many of you seem to be musicians so perhaps you don't need to -- maybe if you are a musician you can approach these albums on their own bases. what about visual art? i know it's possible to think about textures and layers in that sense, and since joni is a visual artist as well, maybe that model works well too. just pondering. thanks for urging me back to this record through the language debate -- it's a joy to find that value can grow and change, isn't it? - -- emily ps: thanks to all who wrote me about my dream. BTW, i went to see the brooklyn museum's "sensation" exhibit today and had the strangest sensation of looking at the pieces with double eyes -- mine, but also wondering what joni would think! pps: i, too, was touched and happy at the story of wally visiting joni and i hope he feels better soon! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 14:16:31 +1100 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: re:rachmaninoff Thanks to those who helped me out with my Rachmaninoff question... I just bought a "best of" CD (WOW, a non-joni CD purchase, I am getting daring!!) and was trying to remember which track she had mentioned in previous interviews. I really love this music, it is so different to the things I'm used to listening to, very inspiring...makes me want to dance and paint, preferably not at the same time ;-) Ange Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:39:41 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Thanksgiving rev./&DJRD - --- Drewdix@aol.com wrote: > > BTW, I am looking for DJRD on CD, and don't have much experience with > ordering records other than through the mainstream. Where the heck can I get > it? (Virgin, Tower, no go, even here in the NY area) Drew, Why not go to the CDNow link at the JMDL site and order it there? Fast, easy, and you support the list, too. Brian npimh: Dreamland from PWWAM (I'd be playing it, but Randi has the DVD player in her computer at Univ of Delaware) ===== "No paper thin walls, no folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 23:32:04 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Finding DJRD Brian Gross wrote: > --- Drewdix@aol.com wrote: > > > > BTW, I am looking for DJRD on CD, and don't have much experience with > > ordering records other than through the mainstream. Where the heck can I get > > it? (Virgin, Tower, no go, even here in the NY area) > > Drew, > > Why not go to the CDNow link at the JMDL site and order it there? > Fast, easy, and you support the list, too. Brian's idea is a good one and you could probably get express shipping. Or, if you're really in a hurry, HMV (at 86th and Lex; don't know about the others) has ALL of her CDs, even DED (made in Germany), in stock all the time. Unless there's recently been a run on DJRD, you should be able to find one there (or maybe at any HMV). Debra Shea ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 23:44:57 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: rachmaninoff paintings "Takats, Angela" wrote: > Thanks to those who helped me out with my Rachmaninoff question... > ....I really love this music, it is so different to the > things I'm used to listening to, very inspiring...makes me want to dance and > paint, preferably not at the same time ;-) I like the dance and paint at the same time idea, for you of course. ;-) Put the canvas on the floor, take off your shoes, use acrylic paints (it will wash off instead of sink in and watch out for pthalo blue or you'll have blue feet forever), and create some music in motion paintings. Sounds like fun to me. Let us know how it goes. :-D DS ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:50:22 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: THE DAY HAS COME!!!! Well, since I'm a semi-lurker these days, I'm entitled to write on this exclusive-for-lurkers day. So I just want to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MS. JOAN ROBERTA ANDERSON-MITCHELL!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know about where you are, but it's November 7 where I am. Kisses and hugs and a REALLY weird minor chord resounding for you for ever, Joni! Wallyk [Kisses and hugs to y'all too, jmdlers!] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:03:55 -0500 From: Linda Worster Subject: Re: THE DAY HAS COME!!!! One minute away here..........................almost Joni's birthday!!!!!!!!! here it is!!!! YAHOO!!! Midnight Nov 7th. Happy Birthday Joni!!!! I love you. Love to all in Joniland! Linda At 01:50 AM 11/07/1999 -0300, Wally Kairuz wrote: >Well, since I'm a semi-lurker these days, I'm entitled to write on this >exclusive-for-lurkers day. >So I just want to say >HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MS. JOAN ROBERTA ANDERSON-MITCHELL!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know >about where you are, but it's November 7 where I am. >Kisses and hugs and a REALLY weird minor chord resounding for you for ever, >Joni! >Wallyk >[Kisses and hugs to y'all too, jmdlers!] > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:37:03 EST From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: My Best To You! It's November 7, which has now become the most significant day in my life, for it was just one year ago today I was given the great honor of photographing Joni's 55th birthday concert. I sure wish I was doing it this year but since I'm not, I just want to say "My best to you Joni". I think I'm going to write the Make A Wish Foundation, and ask that they send Wally to Milan when Joni debutes her new CD . . . and that I would love to go along to photograph the entire event! By the way, today in Joni history, November 7, 1998, she played with Bob Dylan at the Atlanta Collisium -- her birthday concert and an end to her 1998 tour. May all your dreams come true, David Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:42:11 -0500 From: dsk Subject: Re: DJRD Emily Kirk Gray wrote: > DJRD seems to me (tonight, anyway) a step away from > the more interior, turned-inside albums (at least > previous to this) and that it's more of a "thinking" > text -- a piece of work that shows a mind working on > other, outside questions (including race and nationality). This gives me the thought that DJRD is more of a "pleasure in sound-making" album, whereas her earlier albums were very wordy, more cerebral and not as much fun sound-wise. Tonight I went to a concert of classic spanish and latin american songs and while listening to the expressiveness of the sounds since I don't understand Spanish, and falling in love indiscriminately several times in two hours because of the passion in those sounds, it struck me that with Joni I'm always paying a lot of attention to the words. I probably don't have as much appreciation for the music itself as some of the people on the list do, as though I don't even really hear it since I'm so stuck on thinking about the words and picturing images. With DJRD especially, that seems to get in the way of fully experiencing what Joni's doing. I feel like I have an assignment now: ignore the words and discover a new Joni. Hmmmm.... Signing off now, with encouragement to all lurkers to speak up, even though it can be a hard thing to do. (Great way though to celebrate Joni's birthday.) Debra Shea P.S. Happy Birthday Joni! Hope it's the start of a wonderful new year. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:49:41 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: My Best To You! David, one of my best friends writes: << By the way, today in Joni history, November 7, 1998, she played with Bob Dylan at the Atlanta Collisium -- her birthday concert and an end to her 1998 tour. May all your dreams come true, David Mingus >> Way to go Mingus, nice post! I'm so glad you delurked! I know I said I would'nt post on the 7th, but I figure it's still before midnight in California! Atlanta was my first time seeing Joni in concert, and I can't think of a better person to see her live than with You!!!! This is the man who is truly responsible for my love of Joni. Thank you David! Jimmy ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #256 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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