From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #221 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, October 9 1999 Volume 01 : Number 221 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: I'm back, and mingus ["Catherine McKay" ] Back On The List ["Rodney Steinhofel" ] Re: Back On The List [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Re: Sire of Sorrow ["Catherine McKay" ] Re: Stevie Nicks [Dan Knoff ] Re: screensavers ["Ken (Slarty)" ] NPR Most Important: Vote for Joni? [Janet Hess ] Flattery ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: NPR Most Important: Vote for Joni? ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: I WUB JOAN, TOO ["Kakki" ] CD Recordables!!!! Joni cd content so JCC [CaTGirl627@aol.com] JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL---the sequel [Dflahm@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 13:16:08 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: I'm back, and mingus Ange, you wrote: "...that way Joni slaps the strings of her guitar to paint a picture of the wolves attacking, well that's what I see...WOW' (and a whole bunch more.) First - welcome back! Second, the only song I have heard from Mingus is the Wolf (I got the Hits and Misses CDs before I realized you could actually still get some of the older stuff) and it hits me the same way it hits you. I was actually going to get Mingus a few weeks ago, but had to pay off some debt first (!) I'm looking forward to getting it - that and STAS, which I have on vinyl (but nothing to listen to it on, so there it sits a-gathering dust in the basement). So much has been said about STAS lately on the list that it's all brought back to me and I realize, yes, that really is a brilliant piece of work (and for a first-timer too- but it still holds up.) And John, it's really nice the way you "looked out" for Ange. Take care. cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 15:47:25 +0200 From: "Rodney Steinhofel" Subject: Back On The List Hi all, just a notice to say that I have returned after the best part of a year being away. Hi to Rob Jordon in the UK Les Watson .....here in South Africa are you still on the list ...you old e-mail a.d. gets returned . Please say hi. Regards to all......received my first digest today and I am looking forward to what's been happening in Joniland. Rodney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:26:09 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Back On The List In a message dated 10/8/99 10:17:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, steinhof@cmc.gov.za writes: << just a notice to say that I have returned after the best part of a year being away. >> Rodney, Don't be so forlorn. You never know; these last three months might turn out to be the best part of the year. ;>) Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:53:50 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Re: Sire of Sorrow When I said: "I'll either write about it or play my guitar or whatever, and the act of writing down the problem puts it into perspective; the act of playing the guitar puts me in touch with beauty." You responded: "I do this too. and then if this doesn't work, i drink three beers and some red wine. then, if that doesn't work, i go to bed and start over the next day." That works for me too! There are some days I go home and head straight to the fridge for a cold one! cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 11:48:35 -0500 From: Dan Knoff Subject: Re: Stevie Nicks Where could I find some of Joni's comments on other female artists? I'm interested to hear what she has to say about all of the new female artists. I'm relatively new to the list and haven't seen this. If someone could kindly point me in the right direction I would be grateful. I'm very interested in her opinions on Sarah McLachlan, Sheryl Crow, Shawn Colvin, Tori, RLJ, and others. Just curious, Dan Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 16:11:04 -0400 From: "Ken (Slarty)" Subject: Re: screensavers I see there is quite a bit of interest in the screen saver program. FYI you cannot add more pictures to the gallery unless you have the program that makes the screen saver. Even then you cannot add pictures but have to make a new screen saver. It really is a nice program and can be downloaded from http://www.webshots.com but the shareware version only allows you to put a maximum of 5 pictures on the screen saver, to put more pics you need the registered version. You'll be happy to know you can also add music and sound files (midi and wav) to your screen saver either for each separate picture or that continues the whole time the screen saver is on. One of the screen savers that I'm contemplating making is Joni's art. Ken - Back to The Shadows Again > > I downloaded the program, and am just in love with it! > I asked Charles if there is any way for the user to > add images to the gallery. If I hear back, I'll pass > the info on to the list ... if not, he's probably in > for more than he bargained for once we listers start > sending him requests for new/more/personal favorite > pics of Joan -- he'd better hire a staff! ;-) > > Don Rowe > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 17:00:40 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: NPR Most Important: Vote for Joni? Have only been skimming the list the last few days, so if this is Old News, please forgive. Otherwise.... National Public Radio (NPR) has an online ballot for selecting The 100 Most Important American Musical Works of the 20th Century. (So help us all, they even explain what they mean by Most Important.) Quoth the web site: "Beginning next year, NPR will explore the stories behind the 100 most important American musical works of the 20th century. And we'd like your help." The ballot lists "300 works with check-boxes next to them. These nominations were compiled by NPR producers, editors, reporters, critics and scholars. It covers a wide variety of genres: classical, jazz, rock'n'roll, country, R&B, musical theatre, film scores, etc. From this list, we'd like you to cast your vote for the 100 most important American musical works of the 20th century." The good news: THEY INCLUDE JONI!! The somewhat less-good news (at least according to moi): The only listing they have for her reads as follows: "BIG YELLOW TAXI, words/music JONI MITCHELL; as performed by JONI MITCHELL (1970)" But hold on: there's more good news to follow. Now, do (even) I think "Big Yellow Taxi" is one of The 100 Most Important American Musical Works of the 20th Century? Naw. Am I going to vote for it? Maybe. Here's the more good news I promised: THE BALLOT INCLUDES A PLACE FOR WRITE-IN VOTES! Maybe we could kick around here how we could best make Joni's ... and our ... presence felt in casting write-in votes, eh? I notice that the ballot calls for e-mail addresses, so they may well try to screen out repeat voters. Not that we'd know anyone who would do that. Of course, we might know a few folks with several e-mail addresses, but voting over and over again would be wrong, wouldn't it? I also noticed that some LPs are nominated (example: The Band's "Big Pink")...I searched first for "Hijera" and "Blue" but to no avail. So there are many possibilities worth thinking about, I guess. If you'd like to check out the ballot, here goes: Have fun! - ----------------- So when you see a man who's broken / Pick him up and carry him. And when you see a woman who's broken / Put her all into your arms 'Cause we don't know where we come from / We don't know what we are. Laurie Anderson, "Ramon" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 19:57:38 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Flattery Oh no. Now Les is gonna get a big head......... Again.... charles atlas sheppard, webmaster of the RLJ site said: > I love the looks of the www.jmdl.com - -- Just kidding Les, Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:07:14 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: NPR Most Important: Vote for Joni? > I also noticed that some LPs are nominated (example: The Band's "Big > Pink")...I searched first for "Hijera" and "Blue" but to no avail. So there > are many possibilities worth thinking about, I guess. > > If you'd like to check out the ballot, here goes: I would even be willing to vote for 'Hejira' if it will get something worthwhile on the ballot (even though I would prefer Turbulent Indigo). Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 19:16:22 -0700 From: shari Subject: Re: I WUB JOAN, TOO Kakki, Sorry it took so long to respond..I check my home e-mail only sporadically. I was in LA for the taping of the Painting with Words, etc. only on Sat. night. I drove down from SF on Friday so I only got to attend one show. It was pretty much the greatest thing that happened to me that year -a year which turned out to be the year of Joni what with her tour and the taping. I couldn't believe how easy it was to get in to such a thing... I also couldn't believe that the reason I was getting to see her play was because people were LEAVING and I would fill their seats! I spent the first half (before the fireworks) in the great freezing cold empty sound stage watching her on monitors on these stiff black sofas. Then there was a break and the fireworks distracted everyone so me and my girlfriend "snuck in." That turned out to be unnecessary as they were desperate to fill the seats at that point. We were seated two rows up in the aisle she came running down - right behind where Mark Isham would sit when he wasn't playing. Not a bad seat in the house, though I wished I was front and center! I had a bird's eye view of kd lang but hardly ever took my eyes off of Joan. We (Joan and I) made eye contact at the very end and tipped our heads to one another. It was the very end and she was turning around REALLY LOOKING at everyone. I was touched by that [or maybe she was keeping track for reprisals for those who never showed!] I think I posted most of this to the list right after the taping. [I was gushing because I was so grateful to Wally for hooking all of us up.] I'm surprised you don't already have noted somewhere. The tape I made of the show is pretty ratty and I can make out my silhouette once or twice. I'm unrecognizable mostly. I'm still living off that evening so forgive me if I go on. Can't wait for the album of standards...is there a JMDL contingent planned for Scala? Wouldn't that be grand? Thanks for showing interest in my posting. Shari ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:09:59 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: I WUB JOAN, TOO Hi Shari, You wrote: > I spent the first half (before the fireworks) in the great freezing cold > empty sound stage watching her on monitors on these stiff black sofas. > Then there was a break and the fireworks distracted everyone so me and > my girlfriend "snuck in." Excellent and good move!!! Another true devotee ;-) > I had a bird's eye view of kd lang but hardly ever took my eyes off of > Joan. We (Joan and I) made eye contact at the very end and tipped our > heads to one another. It was the very end and she was turning around > REALLY LOOKING at everyone. I was touched by that [or maybe she was > keeping track for reprisals for those who never showed!] She does "really look" at everyone and it's an indescribable experience. I also like your theory of her taking a head count of her invitees! > I think I posted most of this to the list right after the taping. [I was > gushing because I was so grateful to Wally for hooking all of us up.] > I'm surprised you don't already have noted somewhere. The tape I made of > the show is pretty ratty and I can make out my silhouette once or twice. > I'm unrecognizable mostly. I'm sorry I can't recall your post but will look in my saved mail for it. I shouldn't have missed it but was out of my head on cloud 9 around that time! If you can, send me a time frame indication of when you appear, unrecognizable or not. At least it can be an official acknowledgement of your presence. > I'm still living off that evening so forgive me if I go on. Ha!! All of us who were there are *still* living off it. Thanks for reactivating the high! > Can't wait for the album of standards...is there a JMDL contingent > planned for Scala? Wouldn't that be grand? There just may be. It would be way beyond grand! Kakki NP: Mac McAnally - Better Than the Good Old Days ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 22:46:28 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: CD Recordables!!!! Joni cd content so JCC Hello Listers! I have made some friends on the list some CD's. A few of them have had some problems with them skipping! Big YIKES!! I want all of you to be aware that recordable CD's are VERY delicate and can get a skip or scratch easier then a regular CD. They are also sun sensative so DO NOT leave them in your car like you can with other regular CD's. Occasionally, a few will skip for no reason. I have no idea why that happens so just handle them VERY CAREFULLY!! Certain CD's will only have a life span of about 10 years and then they are done. IF you want your Joni CD's to last longer then ten years I strongly suggest you buy GOLD ones that contain PHYTALO-CYNINE in them. They last longer but DO NOT skip less. They will scratch just as easy as any recordable CD so in short..TREAT YOUR JONI CD'S LIKE THEY WERE GOLD!!!!!!! If you have any questions on where you might find these better gold CD's please email me privately! Luv, Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 00:40:54 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL---the sequel I was in the studio Wednesday and Thursday with five other musicians recording six tunes by Joni Mitchell and four of my own...a new instrumental jazz CD. Never before have I tried to do ten songs in two days...but, never before have I had a session funded by a record company, so some obeisance to ARKADIA'S way of doing things was in the cards from the beginning. I'm very optimistic about what will finally result after we mix and edit this. We rehearsed several times (much more than for the average jazz record), the musicians are top-rank and I felt they were on my side and welcomed the quality and challenge of what I put in front of them and asked them to do with it. This CD will be different from JTOJM: there won't be so many different instrumentations or special orchestrations. It's much more like a recording by a permanent group, more emphasis on JAZZ, a little less on JONI MITCHELL. But it was great to find I hadn't exhausted the supply of her songs amenable to jazz treatment the first time around. I will now have a bigger library as I continue to communicate with Michael about the New Orleans event; I am so looking forward to being a part of that. The encouragement I have gotten from you on the JMDL was present to me while we played. Believe me, it helped a lot; this stuff was not easy. I also learned, happily, that ARKADIA has begun distributing JAZZ TAKES ON JONI MITCHELL in the UK; this apparently happened less than a month ago. DAVID LAHM-----feeling most enriched and fortunate ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #221 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?