From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #203 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, September 23 1999 Volume 01 : Number 203 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Here we go again..... [catman ] John Trudell Newsletter ["Peter Holmstedt" ] Gram Parsons Tribute On W54th St. ["Peter Holmstedt" ] Re: Joni Sleeves [Jason Maloney ] Re: New Tom Rush Comp (vljc) [LLDeMerle ] Re: Little Green (JM interview excerpt from R/S) [Vince Lavieri ] Re: Little Green (JM interview excerpt from R/S) [LLDeMerle ] Re: Harry's House & HOSL ["Mark or Travis" ] Donald Freed Epic ["Happy The Man" ] Re: Here we go again..... [evian ] Re: Harry's House & HOSL [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Joni Sleeves [CaTGirl627@aol.com] RE: Joni Sleeves [zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny)] Re: Joni Sleeves ["Kakki" ] Re: Harry's House & HOSL [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Will the real Graham Nash ... [Debby Magill ] songbook with loose pages! HELP! [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Reply to Gina, and a movie ["Kakki" ] Re[2]: Gram Parsons Tribute On W54th St. [RAVEN@igc.org] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:18:39 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Here we go again..... > > > In this case, Paul, you are wrong. There are also tiles in Mah Jongg, but > according to page 71 of the book "The Way To Play," > "Other equipment includes: > a) two dice > b) scoring counters > c) optional wind indicators" > > I am also holding in my very hands a set of dice that I just took out of a > beautiful Mah Jongg set that was handed down to me by my grandmother. Game, set and match to Ashara! > > > Who cares if they use dice, tiles, or elephants? It was cute. Can't we just > leave it as that? > > Ashara {who gets sooooo very weary of seeing "Joni-isms" shot down by > "corrections."} - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:36:52 +0200 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: John Trudell Newsletter The John Trudell Newsletter http://www.JohnTrudell.com Attention John Trudell fans, COMING UP SOON: Oct. 2 Verde Valley School Music Festival Sedona, AZ Performing with Bad Dog Also performing: Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt, Shawn Colvin, David Lindley and Wally Ingram, and Ulali Oct. 5 Taos Convention Center Taos, NM Performing with Bad Dog Also performing: Jackson Browne Oct. 6 Sweeney Convention Center Santa Fe, NM Performing with Bad Dog Also performing: Jackson Browne Nov. 2 Big Ed’s Café Reno, NV Performing with Bad Dog Nov. 3 Big Ed’s Café Reno, NV Lecturing - ---------------------------------------------------- TO SUBSCRIBE TO JOHN TRUDELL’S NEWSLETTER send an e-mail to: info@johntrudell.com with the word “SUBSCRIBE” in the subject line. - ---------------------------------------------------- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM JOHN TRUDELL’S NEWSLETTER send an e-mail to: info@johntrudell.com with the word “UNSUBSCRIBE” in the subject line. Copyright 1999 Triple O Productions. All rights reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:55:20 +0200 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Gram Parsons Tribute On W54th St. The Gram Parsons Tribute taping for Sessions On W54th was incredible and very likely the most amazing collection of alt. country talent that you'll ever see together. Emmylou was the host for the evening, with her band acting as house band and what a band it was; Bernie Leadon on guitar, Greg Lieisz on pedal steel (and guitar and dobro), Ethan Johns on drums, Wix (from Paul McCartney's band) on keyboard and Buddy Miller on bass (and guitar). Greg Liesz was the unsung star of the night. Here's the set list : 1 "Return Of The Grievious Angel"; a duet between Emmylou and Ryan Adams 2 "High Fashion Queen"; Steve Earle and Chris Hillman trading verses 3 "One Thousand Dollar Wedding"; which Hillman introduced by telling how Gram was supposed to be getting married but didn't. Victoria Williams and Mark Olson backed by Chris Hillman 4 "Hot Burritto #1"; All the Mavericks with some of the Emmylou band. Raul Malo has an incredible voice 5 "Christine's Tune (Devil In Disguise)"; Chris Hillman and John Hiatt (who hosts the seies) trading verses and backing each other and having a grand time doing it. 6 "Hickory Wind"; Chris Hillman introduced this one as the first song he ever heard Gram sing. Just Gillian Welch and David Rawlings (with his family in attendence) on acoustic guitars and Greg Liesz on pedal steel. This was the highlight of the concert for me as she transformed the tune into a Gillian Welch tune; slow, sparse and haunting; just awesome with the perfect pedal steel lines from Liesz 7 "Sin City"; Gillian Welch and David Rawlings stayed out and were joined by Steve Earle and the Emmylou band 8 "Juanita"; a beautiful duet between Emmylou and Sheryl Crow. The audience was thrilled when they had to do a retake of the whole song! 9 "Wheels"; Emmylou introduced the song as the most righteous shuffle ever written. Chris Hillman and Jim Lauderdale did it justice 10 On "A Song For You" the house band was joined by Whiskeytown. Ryan can channel Gram even if Caitlin's vocals couldn't match Emmylou's on the original. Ryan's singing, Caitlin's fiddle and again Greg Liesz's pedal steel made this another of the highlights for me 11 "In My Hour Of Darkness" what can I say? I'll never see another collection like this on one stage at one time again. Started by Victoria Williams on the first verse the set was soon filled with everyone who had been out. A beauty of a song sung and played by some of the best there are. Call me a sentimental fool but the sight of Bernie Leadon passing his mandolin to Chris Hillman in the middle of the song touched me. How about Sheryl Crow at one microphone flanked by Gillian and David on one side and Ryan and Caitlin on the other. Steve Earle and Victoria sharing another microphone and Jim Lauderdale and Emmylou on another. Hillman and Leadon just beamed at each other Gee, it was really sad when they had to do it a second time :) When it was over, they lingered on out there and shook hands and hugged each other. It was obvious that this was special for them as well as us. There were genuine handshakes between people who had never met before and hugs between old friends. Perhaps the most poignant moment of the night was the hug and expressions on the faces of the two people to whom this presumably meant the most; Chris Hillman and Emmylou Harris. They honored Gram and his music and I truly believe that everyone there felt that they had been part of something very special. Mark M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:25:26 -0700 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Harry's House & HOSL Having a chance to have a good listen to the HOSL demo recordings (thanks to all who were responsible for getting them into our hands). Over the years, I've always heard the HOSL version of Harry's House as a woman-as-hero, man-as-villain song. I was probably influenced by my age, and the times, in which business=bad, rebellion=good. Isn't it great that the woman finally gives this creep the boot? But the demo version (and the way she performs it now, interestingly), without Centerpiece, without the "When will you be home Harry?"s, becomes a really sad song of a man's loss. Indulge me for a moment. This is very cinematic, as so many of SIQUOMBs songs are. Wife tells husband they're through. Husband must go to New York on business. Yes, it's too important for him NOT to go. But the whole trip, he is detatched from all the New York that swirls around him...though his new status perhaps gives him a keener eye than before for the skinny black models. Unpacking his suitcase, staring out of the window at the people 20 stories down, imagining the businessmen heading for the meeting he can't miss, he drifts off into the memory of her shining hair and shining skin... only to be slammed down by the logical side of his mind saying "Wake up, you fool! She reeled you in. She got what she wanted, and now she's dumped you!" And on another topic entirely, do you suppose Sweet Bird and Dreamland came out of the same tropical trip? ############################################################## Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA steve@psitech.com "The Tinker's Own" *NEW* website at: http://www.tinkersown.com "Southern California Dulcimer Heritage" http://members.aol.com/scdulcimer/ "The Living Tradition Concert Series" (Website soon!) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:25:21 +0100 From: Jason Maloney Subject: Re: Joni Sleeves Don Rowe wrote: > > I for one, have always loved the LP cover of CMIARS. > Wonderful rich color, which stands out wonderfully > against the black. And it seems Joni knows something > I've known for a while now ... life is too short not > to have at least one really cool hat! ;-) I once saw a huge CMIARS promotional poster in the window of Tower Records in London, and in that size the qualities which Don mentions really do have a marvellous impact. My Mum has always regretted not asking the store if she could have it when the promotion was over. She loves the colours in it as well! I have to say that I also love the back-cover photograph, with its gorgeous colours and the coolest poncho.... :-) There are times when I wish that had been used as the front cover. Jason. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:02:54 -0400 From: LLDeMerle Subject: Re: New Tom Rush Comp (vljc) VERY cool, thanks for posting. The only fan letter I ever wrote was to Tom Rush. 2 months ago. :D L At 11:51 AM 9/22/99 -0700, Jenaya Dawe wrote: > From Sony's newsletter- > >COMING OCTOBER 5 > >+ TOM RUSH - 'The Best Of Tom Rush: No Regrets (1962-1999)' > Features 'River Song'---a brand new recording with > Shawn Colvin! > >yay! >jen I'll second that!! LL ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v http://www.angelfire.com/ny/DeMerle/index.html de_merle@iagora.com "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." ~Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:29:46 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Re: Little Green (JM interview excerpt from R/S) I agree with what MG said about the Rolling Store interview. Joni owes no one anything and certainly doesn't have to answer every question about her personal life withg every detail. Actually, reading the excerpt posted, I thought it gave a very good explanation (and very touching) about why she placed her child for adoption. Joni's explanation - read it again - of why she didn't have a child speaks of all the reasons that she placed her child for adoption. I was quite moved... and do not think Joni was throwing people off a path that was not theirs to walk... I think she was saying with great personal grace why she did what she did. The fact that she didn't tell Rolling Stone or us every detail is because she didn't have to, none of our business... and besides, there was a child out there with adoptive parents to think of that didn't need to be outed and thrust in adolesence into a media frenzy. (the Rev) Vince MG posted: I think that it is less throwing people off the scent of things like Little Green and more just a case of MYOB. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:25:21 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Sleeves In a message dated 9/22/1999 4:09:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@fluor.com writes: << This record contains Joni's best singing EVER! Her voice swoops and soars like Sarah Vaughan's, it's gorgeous! And the songs are so complex that we rarely care to discuss them, like they're too lyrically complicated or something...or maybe they were all talked out before I came aboard. >> I have been listening to this LP alot myself. I have had it since it came out but only cared to learn the words to Drycleaner because it was the only song I liked. Well, since Marian's wonderful rendition I have been listening to it alot adn I must say I truly LOVE it. If I ever wanted to listen to some GREAT jazz I know I can just put on that and I am VERY HAPPY! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:25:13 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Top Joni Tabloid Headlines ... In a message dated 9/22/99 2:35:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, catman@apso.screaming.net writes: << For instance, we use the term pavement to mean the sidewalk and Americans use pavement to mean the tarmac on roads. >> Not necessarily true. Tarmac is a brand name for a specific type of pavement, a smooth type of asphalt, I think, that is mostly used at airports. Pavement is a generic word for any paved area and, in my experience, is used in the USA for both roads and sidewalks. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:25:14 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Sleeves In a message dated 9/22/99 2:34:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dsk11@bellatlantic.net writes: << Now that you remind me of Mingus though, yeah, people are uncomfortable with both of those albums. But it seems that DED gets easily picked on compared to Mingus, which people at least respect, especially Joni's courageousness in making it, even if there's not much affection or appreciation for it. Debra Shea >> I think Mingus is a wonderful album, though it is only partly Joni. OTOH, I think DED is a dog and cannot think of two songs from it that I like enough to rank in her top 50 recordings. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:51:59 -0400 (EDT) From: David Wright Subject: Re: Harry's House On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Steve Dulson wrote: > Over the years, I've always heard the HOSL version of Harry's House as a > woman-as-hero, man-as-villain song....But the demo version (and the way > she performs it now, interestingly), without Centerpiece, without the > "When will you be home Harry?"s, becomes a really sad song of a man's > loss. [snip] > ...he drifts off into the memory of her shining hair and shining skin... > only to be slammed down by the logical side of his mind saying "Wake up, > you fool! She reeled you in. She got what she wanted, and now she's > dumped you!" That's interesting. I've always heard the song somewhat differently (with or without Centerpiece and the "When will you be home Harry?"s); I think it presents both Harry and the wife as trapped, victims of his jet-set business-trip lifestyle. He's caught in a cold, impersonal world ("beauty parlor blondes with credit card eyes," "battallions of paper-minded males") and separated from his wife, left with only memories - -- and she's confined to the home ("lost in house and garden"), repressed, and separated from her husband. I think Joni has compassion for both of them. I agree that it is a very cinematic song. I've always thought the last verse (and the teasing "When will you be home Harry?"s) suggested that the wife was going to take a lover (without telling Harry). - --David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:08:09 -0400 From: LLDeMerle Subject: Re: Little Green (JM interview excerpt from R/S) > > >(the Rev) Vince wrote: > >MG posted: I think that it is less throwing people off the >scent of things like Little Green and more just a case of MYOB. I agree, Vince, and as a writer, myself, it's the call of the one being "covered." Joni Mitchell doesn;t *owe" any explanations and the ones she has given are pretty gracious and generous. Public figure, yes, sacrificial lamb, no. LL ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v http://www.angelfire.com/ny/DeMerle/index.html de_merle@iagora.com "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." ~Albert Einstein ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:05:30 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: Harry's House & HOSL In a message dated 9/22/99 4:19:09 PM US Central Standard Time, steve@psitech.com writes: << Over the years, I've always heard the HOSL version of Harry's House as a woman-as-hero, man-as-villain song. I was probably influenced by my age, and the times, in which business=bad, rebellion=good. Isn't it great that the woman finally gives this creep the boot?>> True, Steve, but you know Joni's never going to be THAT simple! <> Even the start of it is very sad...if you've ever been on a business trip and pulled your luggage off the carousel, it's a very lonely, isolated feeling. The image of Jonah, used to represent a man who's trying to run away from a calling, in this case the "calling" being his marriage. The wife "reels" the fish back in to tell Harry what he can do with the whole set-up. << "Wake up, you fool! She reeled you in. She got what she wanted, and now she's dumped you!">> That's a slap in the face to be sure, but don't you think the reason she's dumping him is because she *didn't* get what she wanted except hassles ("Get down from there...WHEN are you coming home Harry?") It IS very cinematic - and it is a sad song of loss for him - the things that he thought *should* matter to him (important meetings, Chief of Staff, etc.) now don't bring much satisfaction when he realizes what he's lost and all he has are memories of the good times (the "Centerpiece" section harkens to the time when that was their song, or some other time that was special to them). What does it avail a man to gain a fortune and lose his soul? Anyway, there's definitely 2 sides...Joni gives us pieces of the puzzle for both, but as always, no easy answers. God, I love her for that!! Bob NP: Free Man in Paris live from Bread & Roses ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:10:00 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: Gram Parsons Tribute On W54th St. In a message dated 9/22/99 2:55:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, peter.holmstedt@telia.com writes: << The Gram Parsons Tribute taping for Sessions On W54th was incredible and very likely the most amazing collection of alt. country talent that you'll ever see together. >> Yee gads!! I love Gram Parsons! His duet w/ Emmylou Harris on "Love Hurts," is an all time favorite. Does anyone have any idea when this will air? I would truly consider staying up late for this show!! MG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:58:18 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: Joni Sleeves i remember an interview where joni said that she had been involved in a car accident when she was recording DED. she was grateful that the car she was in was a big, strong one, otherwise she wouldn't have survived. [she said something like "if it had been a [some kind of car], it would have been totaled.] She even mentioned that the words of Good Friends were originally different: "Sometimes change comes at you like a broadside accident, you get minor cuts and bruises, you could hammer out the dents." If I remember it well, she explained that during the accident, she was pushed forward and her head broke through the windshield, but all she got were minor injuries. hope this helps, wallyk - -----Original Message----- De: dsk Para: Anne Sandstrom CC: joni@smoe.org Fecha: Miércoles 22 de Septiembre de 1999 14:23 Asunto: Re: Joni Sleeves >Anne Sandstrom wrote: > >> Wasn't Joni in a car accident about the time she was recording DED? > >Was she? I hadn't heard that. If she was, that just adds to her list of >woes in the 80s, along with being butchered by a dentist and having >everyone stealing from her (paraphrasing her words). With all that outer >turmoil happening, it's surprising she created anything during those >years. > >DS > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:15:15 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Harry's House & HOSL (the "Centerpiece" section harkens to the > time when that was their song, or some other time that was special to them). I always thought the 'Centerpiece' interlude was meant as an ironic comment on the couple's situation. The person singing 'Centerpiece' describes an idyllic 'house & garden somewhere, along a country road a piece, a little cottage on the outskirts, where we can really find release'. But Joni's vocal rendition seems tinged with a certain amount of sarcasm to me and the person singing the song describes their spouse or partner as 'my centerpiece' implying that they are a posession or an object. I also used to think of this song in terms of the insensitive male who has put his career way out in front of his wife & family. But as time has gone on I also see the woman as someone who is less than blameless for their situation. Joni describes the families of these 'paper minded males' as 'their paper wives and their paper kids' who 'paper their walls to keep their gut reactions hid'. To me these lines imply superficiality and vanity. The family seems to have lost all ability to relate to each other (or maybe anbody) in any kind of emotionally honest way. I never thought of Joni as having much sympathy or empathy for the people in this song. The same with 'Otis & Marlena' which almost seems downright nasty in places. But these posts of Bob's and Steve's have my brain whirring, rethinking my position on this.... Maybe Steve & Bob could tell us why they think Joni is showing understanding & compassion for the characters in this song? > Anyway, there's definitely 2 sides...Joni gives us pieces of the puzzle for > both, but as always, no easy answers. God, I love her for that!! No argument from me, here, Bob! Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:43:13 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Donald Freed Epic I have been spending a quite a bit of time listening to TTT, and see almost a wave of relationship in Love Puts On A New Face, Stay in Touch and Face Lift. It could be that those three songs just paint unbeliveable pictures that you seem to fill in the canvas as she sings but the relationships in those are so strong and prevelant that I wonder how much each song speaks of a time in their relationship. Beginning, middle & end. Just thinking. I would like to get people's views on this then maybe share some of the emotion that goes with each song. Peace, Craig NP: Julie Miller-Broken Things ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:53:28 -0600 From: evian Subject: Re: Here we go again..... Ashara Darling wrote: > Who cares if they use dice, tiles, or elephants? It was cute. Can't we just > leave it as that? > > Ashara {who gets sooooo very weary of seeing "Joni-isms" shot down by > "corrections."} > You said it, Sister Friend! Who gives a rats ass if it's played with frigging BOWLING BALLS? Some folks need to chill out and grow up. Yours, Evian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:31:50 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Harry's House & HOSL In a message dated 9/22/1999 6:19:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve@psitech.com writes: << Over the years, I've always heard the HOSL version of Harry's House as a woman-as-hero, man-as-villain song. I was probably influenced by my age, and the times, in which business=bad, rebellion=good. Isn't it great that the woman finally gives this creep the boot? >> Interesting enough, I never felt that way at all. I always looked at poor Harry married to a women who only wanted him for his money. Being lost in House and Gardens with all his money to spend it on for yellow checkers in the kitchen and climbing ivy for the bath and then all she can do is nag him. When you gonna be home Harry and then yelling at the kids, "Get down off of there", and then thinking I sure am sick of that sofa. I wonder just how old that sofa was? A few month maybe a year. ...just what she could do with Harry's house and Harry's take home pay..... Catgirl ps one of my all time fav songs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:34:19 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Sleeves In a message dated 9/22/1999 6:25:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jason.maloney@virgin.net writes: << once saw a huge CMIARS promotional poster in the window of Tower Records in London, and in that size the qualities which Don mentions really do have a marvellous impact. My Mum has always regretted not asking the store if she could have it when the promotion was over. She loves the colours in it as well! I have to say that I also love the back-cover photograph, with its gorgeous colours and the coolest poncho.... :-) There are times when I wish that had been used as the front cover. >> I just won one that is 24 by 36 on eBay. I just got a frame so now I am just waiting for the poster!! Whooo-Hoooo! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:40:05 -0700 (PDT) From: zapuppy2@webtv.net (Penny) Subject: RE: Joni Sleeves Wally K wrote: <> I've got that MTV "quick blub" interview you're quoting on tape around here somewhere. She said she and Klein were driving home one night on the PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) when a drunk crossed the median and slammed into them. She said "it was good thing they were in a Mercedes cause it was really heavy, like a sherman (tank) really, if we had been in like a Pinto we'd been totalled." (said with a really heavy Canadian accent) Then, and I can't remember if it's from the same interview, but different snippet she said the picture on the back of DED is one she took of the crash seen and a dog just happened to stroll into the picture when she snapped it. The cracked windshield you can see in the pic is where Joni's head hit it. MTV did the interview from somewhere in LA (Kakki?) where she was exibiting some of her paintings with people like Jack Nicholson, Shelly Duval and Sheena Easton there to catch the showing. Penny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:36:06 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni Sleeves Penny wrote: > Then, and I can't remember if it's from the same interview, but > different snippet she said the picture on the back of DED is one she > took of the crash seen and a dog just happened to stroll into the > picture when she snapped it. The cracked windshield you can see in the > pic is where Joni's head hit it. Wow, I never knew that photo was from the actual accident. Wonder if we (hopefully) will see the original at the exhibit in Saskatoon. > MTV did the interview from somewhere > in LA (Kakki?) where she was exibiting some of her paintings with people > like Jack Nicholson, Shelly Duval and Sheena Easton there to catch the > showing. And I want to hit my head on a windshield everytime I'm reminded of this! ;-D It happened directly across the street from me at MOCA (Museum of Contemporary Art) - but since it was long before Joni list, internet and inside scoop and information, I missed it. Arrrrr...... Kakki NP: Nick Drake - Time of No Reply ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:14:32 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Harry's House & HOSL In a message dated 9/23/99 12:35:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, CaTGirl627@aol.com writes: << Interesting enough, I never felt that way at all. I always looked at poor Harry married to a women who only wanted him for his money. Being lost in House and Gardens with all his money to spend it on for yellow checkers in the kitchen and climbing ivy for the bath and then all she can do is nag him. When you gonna be home Harry and then yelling at the kids, "Get down off of there", and then thinking I sure am sick of that sofa. I wonder just how old that sofa was? A few month maybe a year. ...just what she could do with Harry's house and Harry's take home pay..... Catgirl ps one of my all time fav songs >> That's closer to my take on it. Harry married a shallow, gold-digging shrew and Harry has distanced himself from her by devoting himself to his career, and now has a low opinion of all women, not only his wife but those other "beauty parlor blondes with credit-card eyes." Paul I ------------------------------ Date: 23 Sep 99 01:16:36 -0500 From: Debby Magill Subject: Will the real Graham Nash ... From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Graham Nash Breaks Both Legs In a message dated 9/22/99 9:13:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TerryM2442@aol.com writes: << Not to diminish the sadness of this news, but isn't it interesting that Graham has a son named Will? Wasn't that Joni's nickname for him, or did everyone call him that? Terry >> I don't know about everyone, but I have heard the other members of CSN&Y call him "Willy" during concerts. I never thought that it was a name that Joni gave to him, but merely that she used it. Paul I Hi to all! I often wondered about the Willy think, too, until I found out that Graham Nash's full name is "William Graham Nash". That explains why some people call him Willy and why he named his son Will (I assume that's short for William making him his namesake)! I wonder what his son's middle name is. Has anybody heard how Graham is doing since his accident?? I hope he's not in too much pain ... please fill me in if you would. Thanks! Debby in Madeira Beach debbyis@prodigy.net Download the Austin Powers Browser at http://www.austinpowers.com/Browser/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:39:23 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: songbook with loose pages! HELP! Hi friends! A few years ago I ordered *For the Roses* songbook from this place (can't remember where..figures!) It was there last one (sound familiar Kakki?) Anyway, when I got this book the first 20 pages where loose and now they are completely out meaning that the binding in some songbooks really suck! Is there anyway I can either get it fixed or fix it myself using a SPECIAL kind of glue or am I stuck with a loose songbook? The book is in MINT cond. otherwise. If I do glue them in I will go to Kinkos and make some copies of the loose pages (Joni Fest 2000 give-a-way??) And, If I ever get a scanner i would like to send some pics to the list! Catgirl ps I just (finally) discovered that the pic on For the Roses is a horses arse!! DUH!!!! We need to do a thread on the whole concept of this LP unless of course it was already done....DOH!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:15:54 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Reply to Gina, and a movie Mary, thank you for your thoughtful post. I've seen the "Little Green" thread come up at least 3 or 4 times since I joined the list and it has sometimes in the past reflected some harsh and even nasty appraisals of Joni's character. I defended Joni back then and was actually flamed a few times on and offlist and accused of being some kind of Joni sychophant with no critical reasoning abilities. When I saw the thread emerge again recently, I feared, maybe prematurely, that there would be more Joni bashing on this topic and I simply wanted to in a little more than my two cents in her defense. I believe that everything I wrote was based on what either Joni or others have stated in publically-available interviews. The best intentions, however, sometimes create new dilemmas, like evoking uncomfortable feelings in the people. I feel terrible about that, and would never, ever want to say things here that would hurt Joni or her family. I do think, like Michael pointed out, that if Joni *is* listening, she is mostly laughing her ass off. At least, I hope she is! ;-D Kakki NP: Nick Drake - Time Has Told Me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:33:34 -0700 From: RAVEN@igc.org Subject: Re[2]: Gram Parsons Tribute On W54th St. Mary Grace wrote: >Yee gads!! I love Gram Parsons! His duet w/ Emmylou Harris >on "Love Hurts," is an all time favorite. > >Does anyone have any idea when this will air? >I would truly consider staying up late for this show!! It appears that early November is probable in most areas... the schedule for the next two months of Sessions on W54th Street is: Ruben Blades (10/01) Sheryl Crow / Macy Gray (10/08) Los Lobos / Diana Krall (10/15) Robert Cray / Kim Richey (10/22) Parliament/Funkadelic / Cibo Matto (10/29) Gram Parsons (11/05) Branford Marsalis / Cesaria Evora (11/12) Chris Isaak / Dixie Chicks (11/19) Jewel (11/26) But remember, this program is shown on different schedules in different cities, and in the Bay Area, all three local PBS stations have different schedules for the same show. Mary Grace, I assume you view KVIE... check for their November schedule when it appears. -------- I had some unexpected Joni-content in my life last weekend. I was attending a show in Santa Cruz and bumped into Leslie Mixon and Steve... and between sets, the show's producer had a contest, with CDs as prizes for the winners... contest consisted of trivia questions asked of the audience... first correct answer got a CD... one questions was "who has painted the album covers for most of her releases during the last 20+ years"? Winning answer, of course, was Joni. John - waving to Leslie and Steve in Santa Cruz RAVEN ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #203 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. 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