From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #199 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, September 21 1999 Volume 01 : Number 199 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: little green... [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Joni on another list ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Joni on VH-1 Again [Michael Paz ] Re: little green ["Helen M. Adcock" ] Joni 2000 Tribute Festival [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni on another list ["Kakki" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:35:04 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: little green... In a message dated 9/20/1999 1:17:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cateri@hotmail.com writes: << Then you said "maybe the way she coped with the horrible pain of the whole situation of making a real wrong choice of a husband and having to give up her baby, was to go inside to the one thing she had left - her creative reservoir - and throw herself totally into it. Out of that immersion came a wealth of incredible songs, one right after the other." >> Wow! Very gooid point and right on the money in my mind. She was blessed with talent and when she had no where to turn to alone in a city what a better thing to do then to go into your imagination and dream up a happy kingdon etc? That first album is all of that and more. Her saddness just pours out of that LP and does with alot of them. I think THAT is what really brought me to her. The words, the stripped down soul searching songs that come so close to the heart you can feel it in every chord and in every word. She has been my salvation when I was my most lonliness because she was there the whole time. Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:25:08 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Joni on another list There was recently some "discussion" on the CSN list about Joni and how down she is on other female artists (except Sheryl Crow). This all started with the news about the Tribute album that was posted there too. I thought this guy's comments were spot on, and got his permission to repost them here - thought it might interest people - then again, maybe not. Delete at will! Anyway, in his reply he said he should probably be over here too (which I agree with) but didn't have the time. Hope he makes it one day! First post: Really the only female artist that Joan likes right now is Sheryl Crow. Second post: Then Jackson is right, she is nutso and out of touch. Personally, I think she probably smoked too much weed when she was younger. Darren's reply: Well, I can't speak to the "out of touch" comment, not knowing the woman, but it is my very strong impression that wherever she's coming from, she's not a burnout case. No one who has heard her last few albums could believe that she's not in complete posession of her faculties, both intellectual and artistic (I am reminded of a passage from Peter Schickele's "Biography" of P.D.Q. Bach, in which he refers to J.S. Bach as being "at the height of his creative powers, a position he had maintained for over 50 years"). If she's partial to Sheryl Crow, I can understand. If I were Joni, I expect I'd be incredibly bored by now with all those deeper-than-thou guitar waifs out there who are so influenced by her -- despite the fact that a few of them are extraordinarily talented. (Any Jonatha Brooke fans out there?) Crow, though she doesn't seem to have Joni-esque poetic aspirations, is a master of her craft, and refreshingly unpretentious. I don't think Joni's coming from left field on this one. Besides, who the hell are we to quibble? One doesn't argue songwriting with Joni Mitchell for the same reason one doesn't argue quantum physics with Stephen J. Hawking. They'd have to tutor you for 5 years before you could even grasp how much you don't know. Darren Zieger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:29:45 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Joni on VH-1 Again I keep missing this bit, but it's suppose to be on again on Wednesday at 9pm. It is that same 100 women in rock segment. Cheers, Michael NP-Shades of Scarlett Conquering-Me leading the Topsfield Family Singers (with Chuck improvising his ass off) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:41:54 +1200 From: "Helen M. Adcock" Subject: Re: little green Robert pointed out: >Call her Green and the winters cannot fade her/Call her Green for the >children who have made her/Little Green.....be a Gypsy dancer I think the key line there is "Call her Green for the children who have made her". The fact that Joni saw herself as a child through this period says a lot (to me) about her actions, and that she couldn't cope with what she (maybe) saw as an "adult" situation. Just my 2c worth! Helen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:46:14 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Joni 2000 Tribute Festival ***********Attention all time, space, and just plain travelers ************ Soon you too can be traveling in some kinda vehicle towards beautiful N.O. I will be making an announcement next week on the dates for Joni2000Tribute Festival in New Orleans. I have spoken to the owner of the Howlin' Wolf a very cool local club for live music, and he has agreed to let me have the joint for a Sunday night. I also spoke to my wife who just happened to be in an incredibly light mood this week end and she is game to let me have my fun. I am talking to a local hotel near the French Quarter about rates under $100 which is hard during season and I will get an alternate or two for the economy conscious folks. And of course the homestead will be open to a limited amount of folks + back yard camping area amongst 32 Cypress Trees and a few Maples. After I have the dates set I will ask Les to create a list for this purpose and request some volunteers to help me organize this thing. Maybe I could just get Maggie, Chuck, Katie, Ashara, & Heather just to move here and show me how it's done! :-) I just happened to mention a little blurb about this a few days ago and I was bombarded with emails from a ton of Party Animals, so I am hoping for a record turn out. Stay tuned to this channel for the next update on this topic. Peace Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:31:10 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Joni on another list Helen, Thank you for posting this. There are often many great posts about Joni on the CSN list (whose members overwhelmingly love and respect her) and I wish some of them could join us here, or if they lurk here - I wish they would post more often. I also thought Darren's post was really great and am glad Joni has finally come around on Sheryl Crow. Kakki > If she's partial to Sheryl Crow, I can understand. If I were Joni, I expect > I'd be incredibly bored by now with all those deeper-than-thou guitar waifs > out there who are so influenced by her -- despite the fact that a few of > them are extraordinarily talented. (Any Jonatha Brooke fans out there?) > > Crow, though she doesn't seem to have Joni-esque poetic aspirations, is a > master of her craft, and refreshingly unpretentious. I don't think Joni's > coming from left field on this one. > > Besides, who the hell are we to quibble? One doesn't argue songwriting with > Joni Mitchell for the same reason one doesn't argue quantum physics with > Stephen J. Hawking. They'd have to tutor you for 5 years before you could > even grasp how much you don't know. > > Darren Zieger > > ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #199 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! 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