From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #186 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, September 11 1999 Volume 01 : Number 186 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- "La Bottine Souriante" ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Joni's Court and Spark [philipf@tinet.ie] Joni thought [MGVal@aol.com] Re: Happy to share in your delights. [RMuRocks@aol.com] Re: Joni thought [RMuRocks@aol.com] Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" ["Catherine McKay" ] Re: bass and fest [luvart@snet.net] Re: bass and fest [RMuRocks@aol.com] River [Janene Otten ] Re: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" [Heather Galli ] Re: A Visit to the Dentist - Long [Heather Galli ] Re: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Blue LP Reissue?/Background music [Jenaya Dawe ] [none] ["Catherine McKay" ] RE: [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" [Heather Galli ] Hejira on Dave Gregory's Top 10 [RMuRocks@aol.com] skating / Hejira [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: Joni LP News- 2 [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Re: Joni LP News- 2 [catman ] Re: Joni thought [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" [IVPAUL42@aol.com] Strangers [Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com] Yay! ROTR bass tab ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Strangers [David Wright ] Joni's grandson? [Vince Lavieri ] Joni moods [catman ] Re: Joni moods [MGVal@aol.com] Re: Joni moods [catman ] Re: Joni moods ["Mark or Travis" ] Jason/Colin [John van Tiel ] Re: JMDL Digest V4 #397 [mr_lovesaint@webtv.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:16:37 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: "La Bottine Souriante" Frances at teltrans@netscape.net wrote: >I recommend you guys checking out any of their cd's >> They seem to be really taking off over here in the UK, as well. There latest album (here, at least), 'Xieme' has been in the folk/roots charts for several months and I keep hearing them on the radio. Sounds just wonderful jazzy jigs and reels - brilliant musicianship! Must buy. This list is costing me a fortune. PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:48:33 +0100 From: philipf@tinet.ie Subject: Re: Joni's Court and Spark The glossy cover you described was used in the UK. When the miles of aisles passed through London a man standing next to me shoved a stack of albums into Joni's hands for her to sign. When she saw the wrongness of colour and general flatness of C&S a look of horror crossed her face. "They fucked it up" or words to that effect was her comment. Philip Plug of the week - Sing It Back - Moloko This is the real plug of the week, not some dreary nobody who used to play tambourine with Bonnie Raitt. When Sing It Back comes on the radio I roll down the window so people in neighbouring cars can share it's poptastic brilliance. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:33:20 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Joni thought Late last night, (oh, say, 8:38PM or so...), I was going through my Joni CDs in search of a comfort blanket. While listening to "Willie" on LOTC, I was reading the lyrics and thinking about the Harry Ditz photo of Graham and Joni in the backseat of car. Harry said that when he magnified the photo, he could see that she was sitting there writing the lyrics to that song. "Willie is my child, he is my father. I would be his lady all my life." And then I thought a bit more and hit on Nash's "Simple Man," which seems to be a companion piece, only in reverse: "Just want to hold you, don't want to hold you down. I hear what you say and it's spinning my head around...." Whew. When did the tables turn? And instead of a comforting stroll through the jonihood, my head pounded with trying to untangle the knots of love. It was too tough a job for me, so I went to bed. MG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:51:00 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy to share in your delights. In a message dated 9/9/99 10:05:11 PM US Central Standard Time, f40rmr1@corn.cso.niu.edu writes: << I just wanted to say hi to all. I'm John Calimee, finally making my presence known on the list. >> Well you sure said a LOT more than just "Hi" John - what a great letter!! ("Post" hardly does this piece justice) Welcome to the list! I look forward to the talents you bring to the forum. And I was glad to hear that ANOTHER Bob M. was instrumental in cementing your Joni jones! (Maybe it's a franchise!) :~) I have all the tape trees and some other Joni musical goodies (HOSL demos) if I can help in that regard; I can't burn CD's yet though, only cassettes. But I am composing my letter to Santa to bring a CD burner down the chimney this year... Bob NP: "Refuge of The Roads" from Tokyo '83 (I LOVE this show!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:49 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni thought In a message dated 9/10/99 6:36:20 AM US Central Standard Time, MGVal@aol.com writes: << Whew. When did the tables turn? And instead of a comforting stroll through the jonihood, my head pounded with trying to untangle the knots of love. It was too tough a job for me, so I went to bed. >> It's that "Thin Line Between Love & Hate", MG...I think we've all been there... Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:06:16 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" Don, you mentioned Joe Cocker singing "You Can Keep You Hat On". Is that the Randy Newman number with lines like: "Honey, take off your dress. Yes... but you can leave your hat on" ? Love that song. Sexy and funny. (Didn't see the movie - can't stand Mickey Rourke!) cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:24:06 -0400 From: lisa durfee Subject: Sountracks COrrection RE my post 2 minutes ago::: no no no not NOTHING iN COMMON< (that was tom hanks), I meant to say AT CLOSE RANGE (cric walken and sean pennn) I want that soundtrack. liså D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:42:52 -0400 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: bass and fest > >No, not a single one! (And please don't start with the 'Uh, Mark, we >didn't want to tell you this but you're a real.....') > Oh I'll finish this one ........'Uh, Mark, we didn't want to tell you this but you're a real..... SWEETHEART!!!!! And I AM telling you that! Heather PS - I think we ought to draft Kate and Chris to the next Jonifest. How interesting to have bass players too! > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:55:51 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Re: bass and fest In a message dated 9/10/99 7:49:28 AM US Central Standard Time, Heather writes: << PS - I think we ought to draft Kate and Chris to the next Jonifest. How interesting to have bass players too! >> We were originally supposed to have Catgirl's husband there as well, and he is a terrific bassist/guitarist/musician. Ashara, looks like you need to call a building contractor...2000 looks like it's gonna be a whopper!! :~) Bob NP: Oleander, "Why I'm Here" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:01:45 -0400 From: Janene Otten Subject: River I once discussed this with Alan L. and River was also featured in the Wonder Years. It was a very touching scene about the loss of young, first love. BOO HOO... Also, I didn't think to add soundtrack *scores* to the thread but Mark Isham recently composed the soundtrack to Kiss the Girls as well as Afterglow (which is an incredible movie, BTW) There are just too many to list but I will say that I love the fact that soundtracks are now such big sellers. They give us the opportunity to hear many diverse artists on one CD. I make mixed tapes all the time and these tapes act as the soundtracks to my life story. I often go back & listen to old mixes I've made, remembering what I was going through at that particular time in my life and I love the way songs can bring back memories in such a vivid way. I love making mixed tapes (now CD's). Besides writing music, it's one of the most personal expressions of my feelings through music I can think of. Thanks for reading. Janene np: Richard Thompson - "Mock Tudor" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:51:59 -0500 From: Heather Galli Subject: Re: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" >Don, you mentioned Joe Cocker singing "You Can Keep You Hat On". > >Is that the Randy Newman number with lines like: > >"Honey, take off your dress. >Yes... >but you can leave your hat on" ? > >Love that song. Sexy and funny. (Didn't see the movie - can't stand Mickey >Rourke!) I can't stand Mickey Rourke either. Now Kim Bassinger! She's a beauty! She's our age, Roberto! Can you believe it!? Heather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:03:04 -0500 From: Heather Galli Subject: Re: A Visit to the Dentist - Long Oh Leslie! LOL!!!! This was a hoot! Thanks for sharing this. Heather >Why I chose to go to the dentist on my first day among the ranks of the >unemployed I don't know - I probably should have had my head examined >rather than my teeth and gums. > >The appointment was for a cleaning and then an exam. As the dental >hygienist from Texas led me to the chair, she noticed the inscription >above the pocket of my shirt, "the Joni Mitchell internet community." >"Oh, I love Joni Mitchell," she exclaimed. In goes the saliva suction >device and then she starts poking around. "Are you flossing daily?" >"Um hum" I try to answer. "Well, after I had my baby I suffered from >post-partum depression and I would play the 'Blue' album over and over. >Now I'm going to start with the ultrasonic cleaner and water will spray >everywhere so don't be alarmed." "Um hum" I try to answer. "Did you >notice that a piece of your left rear molar is missing? Have you been >experiencing any pain?" "Um hum" I try to answer. "Well, I want the >doctor to see this, I'll be right back." "Here we go, I think - I've >had too many good check-ups. Now that I'm unemployed in my early >forties - it's going to start...." > >My jazz loving dentist, Dr. Bock comes into the room, expresses >pleasantries and the metal instrument in gloved hand dives into my >mouth. "Well Leslie, I see another problem besides the chipped tooth. >Blah blah blah SURGERY blah blah blah MICRO-ORGANISMS GET INTO THE >TISSUE Blah blah blah MAJOR CAUSE OF ADULT TOOTH LOSS blah blah blah >we'll just numb you up and you'll feel pain for the rest of the day blah >blah blah. > >"Well, Dr. Bock, I'm really not in the mood today for a procedure like >that, besides I'm going to see Emmylou and Linda tonight." My face >turns several sheets of white and I curse myself for keeping this >appointment. He asks the hygienist to take some x.-rays. She replies >that she's not quite through as she hasn't polished my teeth yet. > >She puts on the acrylic face shield and begins to brighten up my pearly >whites. "You know, while I was suffering from post-partum depression, >my father was diagnosed with cancer. One day I was driving and 'River' >came on the radio, I had to pull off the road and just ball my eyes >out," she said with that Dallas drawl. "I can relate," I tried to reply >with the saliva suction device still firmly in place. All of a sudden, >as the spray was soaking my face she breaks into song from behind that >acrylic face shied, "I could drink a case of you oo oo oo oo oo oo >oo..." > >Well, you can imagine that I just about slithered out of that chair. > >Leslie (with the shining teeth) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:02:45 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" In a message dated 9/10/99 11:56:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Gallih@ccsu.edu writes: << I can't stand Mickey Rourke either. Now Kim Basinger! She's a beauty! She's our age, Roberto! Can you believe it!? Heather >> Wow, you are both 57 now, too? Isn't it great getting the seniors discounts at the movies? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:27:45 -0700 From: Jenaya Dawe Subject: Blue LP Reissue?/Background music Hi guys- I'm sitting here going through a new release catalog from Valley Media, and they have a vinyl release of "Blue" listed. It's expensive, $31.98 wholesale. Does anyone know the scoop on this? Also, I wanted to let everyone know how much I *LOVE* hearing stories about your reactions to background music, in stores, etc. As many of you know, I work for a background music provider in Seattle (NOT Muzak, and NOT AEI) and I take my job pretty seriously. Everyone's always giving "canned" music such a bad rap, it's nce to hear positive comments! My question is, what stores do you particularly enjoy frequenting? What retailers/restaurants do you think are doing a good job with their music? What do you like about it? What kinds of things turn you off? If anyone has any input for me, I could use the inspiration. :-) Jenaya... who's still mourning missing JoniFest NP: Adam Cohen "Cry Ophelia" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:51:22 GMT From: "Catherine McKay" Subject: [none] Richard?! John?! I loved your a post(s)! Ashara - next year, invite the neighbours. cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:18:02 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: RE: "neighbors trying to sleep and yelling not so loud" is there a cure for JoniFest withdrawal??? - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay [mailto:cateri@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 2:51 PM To: f40rmr1@corn.cso.niu.edu; Ashara@aol.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Richard?! John?! I loved your a post(s)! Ashara - next year, invite the neighbours. cateri@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:30:31 -0500 From: Heather Galli Subject: Re: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" >In a message dated 9/10/99 11:56:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Gallih@ccsu.edu >writes: > ><< > I can't stand Mickey Rourke either. Now Kim Basinger! She's a beauty! > She's our age, Roberto! Can you believe it!? > > Heather > >> Paul I incorrectly states: >Wow, you are both 57 now, too? Isn't it great getting the seniors discounts >at the movies? Sorry, she is 45. She'll be 46 on 12/8. I was off a a bit. I'm very close to 44 ..... at any rate, Kim still looks good. Paul, I guess you just can't remember what it's like to be this young! Heather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:34:13 EDT From: RMuRocks@aol.com Subject: Hejira on Dave Gregory's Top 10 I was just surfing around in space and visited the new Dave Gregory Website http://www.guitargonauts.com/index-frames.html And he lists Hejira as one of his Top Ten albums of all time...(Dave was the guitarist/keyboardist with XTC before he split last year.) He also has a nice photo of the album cover - cool, Dave! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:01:42 -0400 From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: skating / Hejira Just reminiscing a bit... (and practicing work avoidance) The day before Hejira was released, I was listening to the radio - the DJ played something from the album, then went on to describe the cover. He said there was 'a skater' on the cover. Now, at the time I skated some, and followed it rather avidly. I KNEW the skater was Toller Cranston, whom I really admired at the time. (Since then, I'm not as fond of skating in general and Toller in particular.) Imagine my satisfaction the next day when I rushed out to get the album only to find that it was indeed TC on the cover! Anne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:21:32 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Re: Joni LP News- 2 Super Frank reports from his fortress of solitude: <> I'm sure "Comes Love" will be there, since she's not committed that to disc yet, but "Trouble Man" was on Kyle Eastwood's (excellent) record of last year so we already have that one - I hope she DOESN'T include it (Same with Summertime from Herbie's disc). I'm guessing we'll get "Stormy Weather", and we also know BSN & A Case of You will be there. I just want to maximize the amount of NEW Joni!! btw, thanks for your reports, continue digging up the dirt! Bob NP: Fetchin' Bones, "So Brilliant" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:29:46 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Joni LP News- 2 I am looking foward to Joni's new album of standards. Just goes to show that where Carly goes, Joni will follow!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:18:34 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni thought In a message dated 9/10/1999 8:37:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MGVal@aol.com writes: << Late last night, (oh, say, 8:38PM or so...), I was going through my Joni CDs in search of a comfort blanket. While listening to "Willie" on LOTC, I was reading the lyrics and thinking about the Harry Ditz photo of Graham and Joni in the backseat of car. Harry said that when he magnified the photo, he could see that she was sitting there writing the lyrics to that song. >> OK GIRL!!! Where is this said photo and why haven't I seen it??? It could be a great pic for a Joni CD of that era. Talk to me baby!! Cat..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:32:13 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Cocker "You Can Keep You Hat On" In a message dated 9/10/99 3:27:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Gallih@ccsu.edu writes: << Sorry, she is 45. She'll be 46 on 12/8. I was off a a bit. I'm very close to 44 ..... at any rate, Kim still looks good. Paul, I guess you just can't remember what it's like to be this young! Heather >> Kim is the same age as I. She just feels older. LOL! Actually, she is older... by 6 months. Paul I ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:00:57 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com Subject: Strangers Anne quoted this line from Hejira: "Still sometimes the slightest touch of a stranger can set up trembling in my bones", And it reminded me of Joni's other "stranger" line from "Down to You": "You brush against a stranger and you both apologize" And it once again made me marvel at Joni's songwriting skills because she describes the same thing, brushing up against a stranger, but implies two totally different emotions....opposites almost. And it's all the more powerful because it's something we've all experienced, a stranger's touch being either thrilling or chilling. Bob -------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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As he played, he would -of course- slide around the stage on the baby powder sprinkled beneath his feet, and he would often get the crowd to clap along with the beat while he danced and strutted his James Brown moves. As the solo gathered speed, Jaco would turn up the built-in fuzz tone of his Acoustic 360 amplifier full blast and launch into an explosion of feedback quoting from Jimi Hendrix's 'Third Stone from the Sun' and 'The Star Spangled Banner' along the way. He would then climax his showcase by laying his bass down on the stage (pickups still howling), climbing on top of his amp, and then jumping onto his instrument. Sometimes he would mockingly whip the bass into submission with his guitar strap like some sort of comical Marquis de Sade." Ooooh errr! Does anyone out there remember seeing this? Can you recommend a good brand of baby powder? I'm really in the mood to lay down an ostinato! PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 20:16:22 -0400 (EDT) From: David Wright Subject: Re: Strangers On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 Bob.Muller@fluordaniel.com wrote: > And it's all the more powerful because it's something we've all > experienced, a stranger's touch being either thrilling or chilling. Or both at the same time? - --David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:14:26 -0400 From: Vince Lavieri Subject: Joni's grandson? I am moving - well, I am moved - and tonight going through a pile of papers, I found a clipping from the 9 September 1998 'Chicago Tribune' that I saved, called "Joni's jazzed" by Greg Kot. Kot has always written well of Joni, as he does in this piece. For example, he says Blue raised the confessional to an art form, HOSL a landmark, Heijra as having haunting insight, TI a impressionist sound paintig, TTT he says Joni vocal lines intyertwine hypnotically with the saxophone. But what catches my eye is the line that Joni said 20 years ago that she hoped "to remain interested in the music." When asked by Kot if she has, she says she lost it, she intended to quit, and then "a few things have happened to give me new enthusiasm. And then I began spending time with my daughter and grandson." I thought Daisy Joan was her first garndchild - but what do I know? I am also pondering what the source of new enthusiasm is/was. So I throw this out... what do I not know? (Bob Floridation Man RMuRocks is specifically forbidden from responding to this line in this question as it is way to easy for him...) (the Rev) Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:55:14 +0100 From: catman Subject: Joni moods The weather here is cool and misty after a hot day. you can't see very far and the stars and moon are obscured by the mist. tho cool it is also balmy. Which joni album/tracks would best suit this ? - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:04:36 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni moods In a message dated 9/10/99 8:55:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: << he weather here is cool and misty after a hot day. you can't see very far and the stars and moon are obscured by the mist. tho cool it is also balmy. Which joni album/tracks would best suit this ? >> Wow! Colin, what a terrific thread idea! Right off the bat, "Blue Motel Room" comes to mind for me. While that song isn't foggy or misty, it's "pouring rain" enough to obscure the palm trees. MG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 05:19:51 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Joni moods For me it brings to mind some tracks off DJRD and NRH, tho i have to agree it is a Blue Motel Room kind of night too. MGVal@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/10/99 8:55:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: > > << he weather here is cool and misty after a hot day. you can't see very > far and the stars and moon are obscured by the mist. tho cool it is also > balmy. > Which joni album/tracks would best suit this ? > >> > > Wow! Colin, what a terrific thread idea! > > Right off the bat, "Blue Motel Room" comes to mind for me. While that song > isn't foggy or misty, it's "pouring rain" enough to obscure the palm trees. > > MG - -- "It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not." TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:52:52 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni moods > << he weather here is cool and misty after a hot day. you can't see very > far and the stars and moon are obscured by the mist. tho cool it is also > balmy. > Which joni album/tracks would best suit this ? > >> > > Wow! Colin, what a terrific thread idea! > > Right off the bat, "Blue Motel Room" comes to mind for me. While that song > isn't foggy or misty, it's "pouring rain" enough to obscure the palm trees. > > MG For me it's been 'Here in Seattle it's pouring rain/pine trees in the porch light like slick black cellophane'. Ok maybe the simile works better with palm trees but I still like it. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 07:38:01 +0200 From: John van Tiel Subject: Jason/Colin Jason and Colin, May I suggest that you take a short but deep breath, reread one another's posts once again right from the start, and try and listen again to one another's words? You both went immensely deep in your exchanges and were impressive in your own right throughout the whole discussion. You really were, both of you. But a cup of coffee can do no harm now. If necessary, I'll provide it to you both. Feeling like a Dutch uncle here, John van Tiel (... and I am serious about this rereading; so much intelligence/insight on BOTH sides) (... and I won't make weak Coffee Anan puns) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:08:24 -0400 (EDT) From: mr_lovesaint@webtv.net Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V4 #397 Wow! i've been receiving and reading the digest for a while now ( a little over 2 months ) and i have so much loved reading all the wonderful writings . Although I've always wanted to write in, i never felt able to say all i really wanted to say ( i still don't) . i finally decided however, to bite the bullet and open up a bit ( this is my first time , ya see). but now that I've started this, all i can think of to say is : WOW ..... - Wow to all of the feelings I've basked in over the love of joni and love of life ( even the love of love , at times) . - Wow over all of the people who I've watched over the past few months. a shy spy am i and i long hear you ... to speak with you. - Wow to jonifest !!!! i have to tell you how reading the accounts of jonifest brought such joy to me. a smile so wide as to swallow me whole. i'd love to live those days ( maybe someday, maybe someday. ) - and WOW TO JONI. {{{ suddenly his mind wonders }}} i grew up hearing joni almost every other day. my mother loved her so... my mother ...my mother , she showed me so much in this world that is wonderful and i'm so happy joni was one of those things ( she swells up with tears when i sing to her joni songs in my crude way . she smiles through " free man in paris "... and she cries again during " i don't know where i stand "). born in 1970, {{{ now 28 }}} i kind of grew through my formative years as she grew into , through and to her art (a tree). i loved every reach she made , every change in her color . what a lady . you are my friends ( i hope thats ok ) and now you know it . wow. jess. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #186 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! 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