From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #183 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, September 9 1999 Volume 01 : Number 183 The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: 100% Joni Content ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] Re: Joni in Movies/TV ["Jennifer L. Nodine" ] Re: more on new Joni!! ["Kakki" ] Re: Jonifest ["Kakki" ] Re: Joni in Movies/TV [Phyliss Ward ] RE: more on new Joni!! ["Wally Kairuz" ] Re: Bob, show thyself [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Re: JoniFest [CaTGirl627@aol.com] Yay! ROTR bass tab [Bounced Message ] more on new Joni!! [evian ] Part 3: Bombed Girl on Crutches ["Wally Kairuz" ] Part 2: Thanks, Maria Callas ["Wally Kairuz" Subject: Re: 100% Joni Content Hear, hear, Jim! I second that! Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > > This has to be the most inspiring sentences in a while! Bravo! > >>>>>>> B R A V O ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > MG wrote: > > One of the best things about Joni's songs is that a lot of the upbeat and a > > lot of the pain themes work well with teenaged angst, but they are not > > superficial and as the listener continues to mature and experience, the songs > > seem to grow right along with you. > -- > All the best, > Jim L'Hommedieu ** Get well Wally! ** Tolerance, tolerance, tol... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 22:07:27 -0400 From: "Jennifer L. Nodine" Subject: Re: Joni in Movies/TV > > Julie started, Mark Domyancich continued, and Vince makes a feeble stab > at, then Jenny from CT chimes in... > > > A few off the top of my head... > > > > At 6:50 PM -0400 9/8/99, Julie Z. Webb wrote: > > >Film: > > >1. A Walk On The Moon > > >2. Practical Magic "A Case Of You" > > 3. Grace of My Heart > > > > > > > >Television: > > >1. thirtysomething "River" > > >2. Melrose Place "Sex Kills" > > >3. Chicago Hope "A Case of You" > > >4. Ally McBeal "Both Sides Now" > > 5. Friends 6. Party of Five "Circle Game" (BTW what happened to that show?????) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:13:43 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: more on new Joni!! >Joni began recording her vocal tracks in a studio in L.A., and if this process goes well, the new >album may also be ready for release around the same time as the tribute album, but don't count on >it- a date in February or March of 2000 seems more likely. > >Whenever this album of standards is released to the public, Joni has been invited to debut her >album with a full orchestra at La Scala, the birthplace of opera, in Milan, Italy. Oooh, goody!! This means we have a little lead time to save and plan for a Milan-fest!! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:15:37 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Jonifest Julie clarified: > >And thanks too for the martini introduction! > >Sorry I wussed out on it after two tiny sips! I think Julie Z Webb > >must have taken care of the rest of it for me. :-) > I know you jest here, but for the public record, I only had one martini. > -Julie And believe it or not, so did I! Kakki, feeling guilty for being a bad influence this weekend ;-D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:57:09 -0700 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: Joni in Movies/TV "Jennifer L. Nodine" wrote: > > > > Julie started, Mark Domyancich continued, and Vince makes a feeble stab > > at, then Jenny from CT chimes in... > > > > > A few off the top of my head... > > > > > > At 6:50 PM -0400 9/8/99, Julie Z. Webb wrote: > > > >Film: > > > >1. A Walk On The Moon > > > >2. Practical Magic "A Case Of You" > > > > 3. Grace of My Heart > > > > > > > > > > > >Television: > > > >1. thirtysomething "River" > > > >2. Melrose Place "Sex Kills" > > > >3. Chicago Hope "A Case of You" > > > >4. Ally McBeal "Both Sides Now" > > > > 5. Friends > 6. Party of Five "Circle Game" > > (BTW what happened to that show?????) You've Got Mail - "River" and "Both Sides Now" (at least the lyrics were spoken by Meg and Tom) - -- Phyliss pward@lightspeed.net http://www.bodywise.com/consultants/bpward ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:43:34 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: more on new Joni!! - -----Original Message----- De: Kakki Para: Bounced Message ; joni@smoe.org Fecha: Miércoles 8 de Septiembre de 1999 20:55 Asunto: Re: more on new Joni!! >>Whenever this album of standards is released to the public, Joni has been >invited to debut her >>album with a full orchestra at La Scala, the birthplace of opera, in Milan, >Italy. > >Oooh, goody!! This means we have a little lead time to save and plan for a >Milan-fest!! > >Kakki > wouldn't that be great, though? and think of all the money marian would save on airfares... wallyk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:50:54 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: Bob, show thyself In a message dated 9/8/1999 12:14:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cateri@hotmail.com writes: << I'm with you, John! If there's one person I'd really like to know what he looks like (I recognize that was really bad English, but I can't think of the proper way to say that just now!) it's Bob Muller of Fluoride (or whatever the hell the rest of that address is!) Not that you're ever going to catch my ugly mug anywhere! >> It sounds to me Les that you need to get that Pic of Bob with Joni holding his hand out there in the Gallery!!! Or Bob send me a scan and I will put it on JoniMitchellFans@Onelist! Catgirl boy I love that picture!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:54:38 EDT From: CaTGirl627@aol.com Subject: Re: JoniFest In a message dated 9/8/1999 1:21:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cateri@hotmail.com writes: << Aww, jeez, I really wish I could have made it. It sounded like so much fun! I am amazed at the fact you can pull this off - getting a bunch of basically strangers to show up from all over the world, putting them up in your house, feeding them and organising the whole thing. I get totally stressed out if I even have my parents over for dinner, (and they're not difficult people!) and the very thought of organising a birthday party for one of my kids means I have to put a brown paper bag over my head and practice deep breathing exercises, so I really have to hand it to people like you. >> Ashara is the organizing QUEEN!!!! She had lists out and ready to go marking each thing off as it was finished..I was amazed and I thought I was an organized person! She made it look so simple when the reality of it all was alot of HARD work! Way to go Ashara!!! Luv ya baby! Catgirl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:52:07 -0600 From: Bounced Message Subject: Yay! ROTR bass tab From: Chris Marshall Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:08:23 +0100 Dear All (and more particularly, bass players) I've been listening to Joni for years, and playing bass for more years than that. I'm quite a lucky sod in that I have a musical ear, so I can pick up tunes/songs/basslines pretty quickly in a fashion that sounds good, even if it's not identical to the original bassline. Recently, though, I resolved to learn a few of the basslines from Hejira properly. So, this evening, instead of getting to bed early in preparation for my flight to Chicago tomorrow, I sat down for half an hour and ploughed through the first verse of Refuge of the Roads. I'm very happy to say that the bassline is not technically very difficult, although I previously _thought_ it was. However, I'm beginning to realise that the bassline that Jaco laid down was as diverse and interesting, in a musical sense, as the lyrics that Joni sings herself. So many basslines today are such that you can go through the song a couple of times and you've largely got it nailed down. Jaco's basslines mostly aren't like that: they're constantly varying throughout the course of the song. So my biggest hurdles to learning the song are not learning the riffs, so much as remembering where they all come. Also, upon repeated listening, it's clear that there are so many places where Jaco isn't playing... because the bass is up there as a lead instrument along with the guitar, instead of being merely relegated to the rythmn section. The other hurdles are much more intangible: intonation, as with any fretless instrument, is vital. More so, because Jaco plays a lot of stuff at 14th fret and beyond. My bass is slightly shorter scale than most (32") so I've got more to worry about! Finally, the most intangible thing of all is _feel_. Perhaps I could shut my eyes and screw my face up, a la Jazz muso. (Or perhaps I should visit Amsterdam to truly /get there/ :-) [ The other thing that Jaco has been noted for is his sound. I'm very lucky there - I had a Jap Squire Precision converted to fretless, and the growl pretty close to that sound. I shall cry like a baby if I ever lose this bass! ] All of which is winding up to saying that I should have some bass tab kicking about soon for those that are interested. (How many bass players _are_ there on the list anyway? Guitar players we seem to have in spades, I don't recall hearing from many bassists though!) Right. Sorry this is rambling, I'm in a hurry to go to bed. Back in a week, - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 00:01:28 -0600 From: evian Subject: more on new Joni!! > Chaka Khan, Elvis Costello, Bjork, Etta James, > Janet Jackson and others have recorded their > favorite Joni songs > Is it just me, or is anyone else dying of curiousity to see what song Bjork does on the Tribute album?? I can't wait! Evian np: Matthew Sweet -- 100% Fun ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:19:24 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: Part 3: Bombed Girl on Crutches Game time!!! So there's Bob wearing a blonde wig and Mark wearing a blonde wig and Kenny wearing a blonde wig and Julie wearing a blonde armpit. [By now I'm madly in love with Julie, Maggie and Mark. Earlier in the evening I had fallen desperately in love with Bern, but he's gone now.] Videos begin to roll, music sheets to unfold and martinis to take their toll. No matter where you go, Ashara's dog is sleeping there. A while later I find myself out in the fateful garden again. A circle of festers -- Father Patrick presiding -- is discussing some NJC issue the point of which I miss completely, so I turn to Roberto whom I haven't bugged a lot today after all. As people gradually begin to retire, i.e., pass out in various rooms, Roberto, Jody and I sit down to enjoy the night cooler air. Jody is your regular bombed girl on crutches; Roberto more on the Noel Coward side. I'm just a chubby Argentinean falling in and out of love. [Snap out of it!!!]. Someone's snoring so loud that we all three get the giggles. When we recover, Roberto does his Kate Hepburn and we get the giggles again. It's time to tuck Jody in. Roberto's still in the mood for a scotch or four so we welcome dawn together. And now folks, picture will just have to fade discreetly out. [Somewhere between 7 and 9 A.M., the highlight of my weekend, month and decade will take place, but that's not for your eyes to behold, nosy ones.] Brian Gross would have said, "Yeah, right." Wally\K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:19:30 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: Part 4: This Flight Tonight Uhum.... I'm up now, and it's Atty May's day. At the breakfast table -- Father Patrick presiding -- we discuss more NJC . We try to fix the place up a bit and the next thing we know, we're lost trying to get to Atty May's, but we make it... eventually. It's countdown for a bunch of us: Jim of the legendary mustache is coming for us at 5:30 to take us to the airport and go full circle. Michael, Marian and Chuck take over and turn the place into a Jonifest II. For a moment I'm sure that Marian is looking straight into my eyes. I wink and smile. I love Marian to distraction, but I guess I've already said that. I'm very, very blue. I'm a Rickie Lee Jones' character by now, on the verge of tears, contemplating running crazily away into the woods so that I can stay forever in New England. I also want to make another impossible dream come true, but the dream is impossible and it won't come true. Jim comes at 5, the bastard. Someone tries to bribe him with a drink, but the guy is as inflexible as Scarlett. Kenny, Roberto, Laura, Jody and I get into the van and off we go. Well, the rest is to sad to be told. Last Monday, I was having dinner with a friend. I was telling him about my weekend at Ashara's, about Pippen, about the jmdlers I met, about Les and Wally. When I started to tell him about singing The Last Time I saw Richard in the New England night, I suddenly broke down and cried, right there in front of the waiters and the people waiting for a table at the bar. Big fat guy sobbing over his fish. Quite unsightly. Wally\K ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:19:15 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: Part 2: Thanks, Maria Callas Lunch was over, and people started getting ready for their sets. I borrowed Ashara's gorgeous Martin and -- after I opened the door for the sweet cop that came to take us all to jail for unruly behavior -- I tuned it down to suit my voice. Now, any sensible musician would do this by playing and singing a bit until the tuning feels right. WelI, not I. Someone once told me that the dial tone in Buenos Aires is a G, so I always use my telephone to find G on my guitar. I played a G on Ashara's piano and presto: my guitar was tuned. Or so I thought. The sets were splendid, creative, fun, moving. What can I say about Marian, Michael, Anne, Chuck, Ashara, Terry, Julie's band, choirboys Kenny and Mark, Roberto, Tycoon John Van Tiel, Bryan and all the prestigious folks whose names embarrassingly escape my memory now that hasn't been expressed more eloquently already? Suffice it to say that I was in a trance, amazed at the way all the people at this party could pick the most difficult songs and play and sing as if they were possessed by Mama Joni herself. I also noticed that they were singing EVERY single number I had chosen for my set, but that didn't matter much because I figured that by the time I went on, everybody would be so drunk that nobody would notice that I was playing This Flight Tonight for the tenth time. So the afternoon turned to evening. Super Sexy Maggie spread out a banquet on the dining room table for us hungry festers while Ashara, visibly refraining from sitting us one by one on her lap and feeding us, explained to me that she didn't ALWAYS have labels on her kitchen drawers, only during Jonifests. Back in the garden, it was time for my set. Bryan Thomas had to leave early so I swapped places with him. BIG mistake, Wally. Does anybody know what it means to come after Bryan Thomas? Outside of Maria Callas, I can't think of anyone that can do the trick. And I went on. And I screwed up. My guitar had totally detuned by now, my voice was shot. I noticed Michael and Chuck quietly coming onstage to try to bail me out by playing keyboards to "sweeten" my disastrous rendition of, yes, This Flight Tonight. How MAD I was!!! If it had been my guitar, I would have crammed it down my throat. I was positively fuming. But anger is my fuel sometimes. I put down the guitar and the next thing I knew I was singing a cappella. Don't ask me what went through my mind because it was an out-of-body experience. I sang and sang. At one point I thought that everybody had gone inside to put on a sweater or to get the martinis going something because I could hear nothing, not even myself. And that was my set. Wally\K ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V1 #183 ****************************** The Song and Album Voting Booths are open! Cast your votes by clicking the links at http://www.jmdl.com/gallery username: jimdle password: siquomb ------- Don't forget about these ongoing projects: Glossary project: Send a blank message to for all the details. FAQ Project: Help compile the JMDL FAQ. Do you have mailing list-related questions? -send them to Trivia Project: Send your Joni trivia questions and/or answers to Today in History Project: Know of a date-specific Joni fact? - -send it to ------- Post messages to the list at Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe onlyjoni-digest" to ------- Siquomb, isn't she?