From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V1 #171 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk onlyJMDL Digest Monday, August 30 1999 Volume 01 : Number 171 The Laborday JoniFest is happening this fall! For information: send a message to Join the mailing list at: ------- The Official Joni Mitchell Homepage is maintained by Wally Breese at http://www.jonimitchell.com and contains the latest news, a detailed bio, original interviews and essays, lyrics, and much more. ------- The JMDL website can be found at http://www.jmdl.com and contains interviews, articles, the member gallery, archives, and much more. ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni in the studio ["P. Henry" ] Re: Michael Franks Gig [luvart@snet.net] La Scala [Ken Corral ] From the UK Fest [catman ] from Martin Azeem Gerry and Colin [catman ] RE: from Martin Azeem Gerry and Colin [Chris Marshall ] Re: from Martin Azeem Gerry and Colin [Ginamu@aol.com] Re: From the UK Fest [Brian Gross ] Re: La Scala - Joni TV special taping [WirlyPearl@aol.com] Re: Where I was when ... [Ginamu@aol.com] re: new england (VLJC) ["Takats, Angela" ] Plug Of The Week #34 ["Peter Holmstedt" ] Re: Hejira trivia [IVPAUL42@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:58:59 -0700 From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: Joni in the studio don offered: "This is how she described Joni's conveying to the musicians what she wanted them to play. Vocalizing, *scatting*, picking riffs out on the guitar - and she said these guys were always amazed at what Joni came up with. I think probably very little improv work is done on Joni's recordings - except maybe by Joni herself :->" very cool insider glimpse! I never joined Joni in a studio and when we jammed together she was not yet writing mer music with a group in mind, but I can attest to this being a pretty fair description of her 'teaching method... and yes, I can verify that *this* guy was also 'always amazed at what Joni came up with'... and I *still* am!*S* pat NP: (in my head) Joni 'scatting' her melody to 'Wizard Of Is' when she taught me the chords... (actually the chords and exact guitar parts from 'Suzanne') Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:18:19 -0400 From: luvart@snet.net Subject: Re: Michael Franks Gig At 04:39 PM 8/28/99 -0500, you wrote: > I have been dying to get to the computer to share my experience this >week with Michael Franks. What an amazing guy! We hit if off quite well >and I was quite comfortable with him and I feel like he was with me as >well. Instead of riding in the Limo bus he chose to ride with me and >"keep me company". On the ride in from the airport I had Joni playing on >the car cd player and we talked about her alot. I told him about Joni >Fest and the list and that the songs we were listening to were >selections I was preparing for my set at Joni Fest. He told me about >hanging out with her years ago during the Guerin period. He currently is >living in Woodstock and has a place down on an island in Fla. near Ft. Myers. > Thanks for sharing this Michael! What a treat for you to share some time with these really neat people. My husband and I have seen Mark Egan and Danny Gotlieb several times and had some backstage conversations with them. Really nice guys! Nice to hear that they are knowledgable of Joni's music. I'll add to your urging ... yes everyone, check out Mark and Danny's music (Elements) ... great stuff! I'll be checking out Michael Franks new one. Hey, Michael ... ever get to meet Dave Weckel?? as ever, Heather To my surprise at the airport my hopes were confirmed that the Egan >listed in the band was indeed Mark Egan from Pat Metheny's earlier work >and a band with Danny Gotlieb called Elements. He is also an extremely >nice man and we had quite a bit of time talking and hanging out. My >friend Jack that works for the Limo company that I booked for airport >transfers came out in a stretch limo (as a favor) to help me transfer >the band and Michael back and forth from the hotel to House of Blues. >Later that night after an incredible set at House of Blues and getting >Michael tucked into bed at the hotel (with the better behaved >musicians). A few of the band guys and myself went out on the Bourbon >St. run. In the car again with Joni on the box Mark responded to Joni >and talked about how much he like her. Big fan of Hissing and Hejira. He >loves Edith and The Kingpin and was quite knowledgeable about the song >titles etc. If I only would have had the guts to invite him to Joni Fest >to play bass. Oh well there is still a week left and I have his email >address etc. so maybe I'll get up the nerve. Don't wanna be too pushy. > I will be eternally grateful to the Tour and Road managers that work >for MF, for having me do their gig for them (they were out with Lilith >Fair the lucky stiffs). As it turns out Michael tours only on the >weekends and according to Charles his music director, they will be >calling me for my services again. This will be fine with me (a great >chance to hook up with Joni listers across the nation). I urge you guys >to check out Michael's new album Barefoot on the Beach and definitely >check out Mark Egan's stuff. Mark has a web site at www.markegan.com. >You can order stuff directly from his page. If you like Metheny you will >indeed like Mark. I love the Elements Illumination album. By the way on >one of Mark's solo records "Beyond Words" you will find Joni Vet Don >Alias on Percussion as well as guitarist Toninho Horta, who has >collaborated with Pat Metheny as well. I guess I better stop gushing, >reading this over I sound like a star struck teen age girl. The Lord >continues to bless me with wonderful musical and magical experiences and >I wish the same for all of you. Have a good weekend! > >Love and Peace > >Michael > > >NP-Campfire Stories-Mark Egan > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:54:55 -0700 From: Ken Corral Subject: La Scala Hi everyone, I haven't kept up with my digests, so don't know if this has been reported. In today's L.A. Times sunday Calendar is a small item in the "Pop Eye" section. Under the headline Small Faces. A lot of pop singers get called divas, but Joni Mitchell is the first to be invited to sing in the home of real divas. Management of Milan's opera mecca La Scala want Mitchell to perform there in the fall with an orchestra to debut an album of standards she's recording in London. If she agrees, the show would be taped for a TV special... Take Care, Ken C- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:45:48 +0100 From: catman Subject: From the UK Fest When will these guys go home? - -- TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:00:13 +0100 From: catman Subject: from Martin Azeem Gerry and Colin Hi folks; it's Sunday afternoon, and we've had a great time gassing, eating, drinking and being given a whistle-stop tour of the Carly Simon back catalogue. We've also taken the dogs to the park (And yes, they are all adorable, as are the cats, not to mention the kittens. We're listening to the Hissing demos, which Paul Castle has kindly distributed to us. Hello to Chris too, who was with us for a while yesterday, but had to go to London to see "Beauty and the Beast". Hi folks, this is Martin. Just chiming in with a big "Me too" to all of the above. I also had the pleasure of sleeping with one of Colin's pussies. Azeem was also a bit of a hit with Claudia (another of Colin's cats). Azeem treated us to a rendition of 'Brass Buttons' by Gram Parsons on his guitar. I bottled out of any playing, but have resolved to do a lot of practicing so that I can play something next time.... hi gerry here just to say a wonderful time was had by all hilight for me was getting to hear the hissing demos. Colin: It's been much more fun than i thought and I would love to do this again. I bought far too much food! Still always better too much than too little. The time has gone really quickly. we have talked about all sorts of things from joni to God and cats and dogs and people on the list! Azeem and Martin have taken lots of pictures but mainly of my pets! One of the guests is quite fanciable but I won't say which one. Well, I guess it is time to go! - -- TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:35:46 -0700 From: Ken Corral Subject: La Scala/LA Times continued Duh! In my Sunday reading haste, I just glanced at the item and didn't even catch the related item afterwards...This isn't new but here it is: "Meanwhile, Björk, Janet Jackson, Etta James, Chaka Khan, Elvis Costello, and k.d. lang have all recorded songs from Mitchell's own songwriting catalog for a tribute album, which could be released around the same time as the standards collection..." There. KenC- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:28:56 +0100 From: Chris Marshall Subject: RE: from Martin Azeem Gerry and Colin On Sunday, August 29, 1999 5:00 PM, catman [SMTP:catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk] wrote: > Hello to Chris too, who was with us for a while yesterday, but > had to go to London to see "Beauty and the Beast". Sorry for running off, guyz. Sounds like I was the one missing out though, even though BATB was fab too. Thanks Colin for hosting it... I'll probably stick my hand up to do it next time. Martin: please practise some guitar from Hejira - I'll join you on the fretless next time we meet. I suspect your guitar will ace my bass (as it were) but what they hey. TTFN, - --Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:18:28 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Dave Weckl luvart@snet.net wrote: > I'll add to your urging ... yes everyone, check out Mark and Danny's music > (Elements) ... great stuff! I'll be checking out Michael Franks new one. > Hey, Michael ... ever get to meet Dave Weckel?? HI Heather- Thanks for the comments. Yes I did a couple of different things with Dave. I have a pic of the Electric Band and Chick right here in the studio (of course autographed) they were here for a Jazz Fest a few years ago. He has been around a couple of times doing clinics at the local drum store and I always use to see him at the NAMM shows. Cheers Michael NP-I Would Have Waited Forever-Yes-The Perfect Union(a boot) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:28:58 EDT From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: from Martin Azeem Gerry and Colin In a message dated 8/29/99 12:03:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: << Hi folks; it's Sunday afternoon, and we've had a great time gassing, eating, drinking and being given a whistle-stop tour of the Carly Simon back catalogue. We've also taken the dogs to the park (And yes, they are all adorable, as are the cats, not to mention the kittens. We're listening to the Hissing demos, which Paul Castle has kindly distributed to us. Hello to Chris too, who was with us for a while yesterday, but had to go to London to see "Beauty and the Beast". Hi folks, this is Martin. Just chiming in with a big "Me too" to all of the above. I also had the pleasure of sleeping with one of Colin's pussies. Azeem was also a bit of a hit with Claudia (another of Colin's cats). Azeem treated us to a rendition of 'Brass Buttons' by Gram Parsons on his guitar. I bottled out of any playing, but have resolved to do a lot of practicing so that I can play something next time.... hi gerry here just to say a wonderful time was had by all hilight for me was getting to hear the hissing demos. Colin: It's been much more fun than i thought and I would love to do this again. I bought far too much food! Still always better too much than too little. The time has gone really quickly. we have talked about all sorts of things from joni to God and cats and dogs and people on the list! Azeem and Martin have taken lots of pictures but mainly of my pets! One of the guests is quite fanciable but I won't say which one. Well, I guess it is time to go! I enjoyed hearing from you guys! I'm glad you're having a grand time! Do it next summer and I may be able to join you. It's just a two hour flight to London from Lisbon, Portugal. Take care, Gina ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: From the UK Fest - ---catman wrote: > When will these guys go home? Where are the digital pictures of this gathering??? Come on, you guys!! Show us !! Brian, who can't wait for this coming week and Ashara's 2nd Annual Labor Day JoniFest === "No paper thin walls No folks above No one else can hear the crazy cries of love" yeah, right _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:45:28 EDT From: WirlyPearl@aol.com Subject: Re: La Scala - Joni TV special taping Ken wrote: > In today's L.A. Times sunday Calendar is a small item in the > "Pop Eye" section. Under the headline Small Faces. > > A lot of pop singers get called divas, but Joni Mitchell is the first to > be invited to sing in the home of real divas. Management of Milan's > opera mecca La Scala want Mitchell to perform there in the fall with an > orchestra to debut an album of standards she's recording in London. If > she agrees, the show would be taped for a TV special... > That's wonderful news!! Hope she agrees to do it. Then we'd have to find out when it is, and figure out how to get invited to the taping. I've never been to Milan. (Uh Oh, how am I going to get my husband to let me do something like this.) :-) Pearl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:47:27 EDT From: Ginamu@aol.com Subject: Re: Where I was when ... In a message dated 8/28/99 10:18:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johnlow40@hotmail.com writes: << I remember reading some comments by the poet Allen Ginsberg about how he had studied the way Cezanne used colour to juxtapose two disparate images and how this technique could induce in the observer quick, haiku-like flashes of illumination – or, as Ginsberg called them, “eyeball kicks”. Ginsberg attempted to apply this technique to his writing and, while I have not really thought the whole comparison through, I think that JM is probably doing much the same thing in her song writing. The “eyeball kicks” she can achieve can be so vivid that, when they happen, they imprint not only the song’s moment on our memory but, as Marks says, “the moments in our own lives as we listen to her”. >> Yes! This is so cool! That's why I sometimes feel like a single line, whether it expresses the complete thought or not, suffices in creating that image, or "eyeball kick" that sets my mind reeling. It's almost a sort of high. Joni does this so potently for me. Though they're very different types of writers, Joni and the late poet Anne Sexton are the most powerful "eyeball kickers" I can think of personally. Thanks for this thread. Gina NP: Pictures of Lily - The Who ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:57:10 +1000 From: "Takats, Angela" Subject: re: new england (VLJC) Hi Steve, << I brought my portable CD player and Barry Manilow's "Weekend in New England" and listened and sang that song, and kind of had what I might call my "New England memory moment." That song (sappy and bombastic as it is) happens to be one of my favorites of that kind of music, and has been since I was, I don't know, eight years old. I remember singing the bridge in the shower: "I feel the change comin' I feel the wind blow! I feel brave and daring, I feel my blood flow!">> This sounds like a marvelous moment to me! Unfortunately I'm not familiar with good ole Barry's work...but how wonderfully appropriate a song to be playing in your head phones as you walked across the bridge. Wish I knew more about New England so I could picture it! <> I sure hope u find that special guy...your comment reminded me of something my mother has spoken about with me...she travelled all around the world when she was seventeen - backpacking thru Europe, sleeping on beaches in Israel and I always tell her how jealous I am of her travels and ask her how wonderful it must have been, to see the things she saw. And she always says the same kinda thing - "yes, I saw so many beautiful and exciting things, but there's something so sad about seeing a magical sunset and having no one to share it, or remember it with". So just think about how great it's going to be when u can go back to New England with your special someone ... share the walkman earphones...barry singing to both of u as u walk across that bridge in the rain :-) <> Moi is far, far away 'down under' - otherwise known as Australia, more specifically Sydney....planning a visit by any chance?? And as for your fav: << "For the Roses,">> I've spent the past few days listening to this album again and I can't believe how beautiful it is....I must admit that there are moments on this record that I stop breathing...(ie. You Turn Me On, when she sings "SIGN off prayer" and Banquette (SP?) "down where the water skiers FLY..." PURE JONI...arghhhh :-D) Thoughts from Ange Across the sea in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:34:42 +0200 From: "Peter Holmstedt" Subject: Plug Of The Week #34 Hi there, Do you remember who replaced Janis Joplin in Big Brother & The Holding Company? Do you remember who released the first official version of Neil Young's "Down To The Wire"? Do you remember who had a hit with "You've Lost That Loving Feeling" ( with Long John Baldry ) ten years after The Righteous Brothers original version? Kathi McDonald, that's who! This remarkable singer just released her brand new album : Kathi McDonald - Above & Beyond ( Merrimack Records ) Born in Anacortes, Washington, Kathi McDonald left her Catholic school girl persona behind and headed to the bay area in the late 60's to jump start her singing career. One night she was in the audience at an Ike & Tina Turner show in the Fillmore and began singing along on "River Deep Mountain High". Even without a microphone McDonald's voice caught Ike Turner's ear an overnight she beacme an Ikette. After more than three years with the Turner's she joined Joe Cocker's Mad Dogs & Englishmen's entourage. There she met Leon Russell and soon became part of his Shelter People. Gigs with Elton John, Freddie King, Rita Coolidge, Dave Mason and Nils Lofgren followed. In 1974 she made her debut album, "Insane Asylum", with help from The Pointer Sisters, Sly Stone, Ronnie Montrose, the Tower Of Power horn section, Pete Sears, Aynsley Dunbar, Papa John Creach, John Cippolina, Neal Schon, Nils Lofgren and a cast of thousands! In 1976 she began a very successful relationship with British blues rocker Long John Baldry and they have recorded and toured together for more than two decades. This month sees the release of her brand new album, "Above & Beyond". Many of the Northwest's most illustrious players join her on this great, new album. Guitarist Rich Dangel, who was with The Wailers, organists Norm Bellas and Ed Vance, internationally known harmonica player Lee Oskar and art-rock organist Brian Auger is also featured, along with his son, drummer Karma. Copies of "Above & Beyond" are available from : Merrimack Records PO Box 55277 Seattle WA 98155 U.S.A. Phone: 425 - 347 - 9123 Fax: 425 - 347 - 0945 Email: engcathy@euphoria.org Website: http://www.merrimackrecords.com Great album from a great singer! Take care, Peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:54:58 EDT From: IVPAUL42@aol.com Subject: Re: Hejira trivia In a message dated 8/27/99 2:07:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, guitarzan@saber.net writes: << Someone may have already mentioned this; in the film "Out of Sight" (G. Clooney, J. Lopez) there is a character named Hejira. He says his name derives from Mohammed's exodus. >> So does the dictionary. 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